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IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

d'Kong76 Jun 19 2018 03:46 PM

NYM - LH Jason Vargas (2-5, 7.39 ERA) COL - RH German Marquez (4-7, 5.13) [youtube:1ej9fbma]mP8Pe8tp2TQ[/youtube:1ej9fbma]

Edgy MD Jun 19 2018 03:54 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Vargie has a career 11.40 ERA in 15 innings at Coors Field. Get the bullpen loose and score some runs.

41Forever Jun 19 2018 04:16 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Love the Fixx songs!!!

Centerfield Jun 19 2018 05:02 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Predictions: 1. When Vargas pitches tonight, there will not be a time when we, like last night, forgot the game was being played at Coor's Field. 2. We will hear "Well a ____ run lead here, is like a 3 run lead anywhere else. Mets just have to chip away and get to that bullpen." 3. After this game, we will hear justification of Jason Vargas that starts with "If you take away that one start at Coor's Field, Jason Vargas has been pretty ok over his last few...."

d'Kong76 Jun 19 2018 05:21 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

41Forever wrote: Love the Fixx songs!!! The Fixx have a large video catalog. We can ride this puppy to Independence Day if the Mets are willing and able to cooperate.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2018 05:25 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

From Cy Curnan to Cy Young!

seawolf17 Jun 19 2018 05:31 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Centerfield wrote: "If you take away that one start at Coor's Field..." "...his ERA is actually only three digits."

d'Kong76 Jun 19 2018 09:27 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

[tweet:2k9hu1dj]https://twitter.com/Rockies/status/1009183229444845570[/tweet:2k9hu1dj]

Edgy MD Jun 19 2018 09:37 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

[list=1:3sgg8tad][*:3sgg8tad]Brandon Nimmo (L), rf[/*:m:3sgg8tad] [*:3sgg8tad]Asdrubal Cabrera (S), 2b[/*:m:3sgg8tad] [*:3sgg8tad]Michael Conforto (L), cf[/*:m:3sgg8tad] [*:3sgg8tad]Todd Frazier (R), 3b[/*:m:3sgg8tad] [*:3sgg8tad]Dominic Smith (L), lf[/*:m:3sgg8tad] [*:3sgg8tad]Wilmer Flores (R), 1b[/*:m:3sgg8tad] [*:3sgg8tad]Kevin Plawecki (R), c[/*:m:3sgg8tad] [*:3sgg8tad]Jason Vargas (L), p[/*:m:3sgg8tad] [*:3sgg8tad]Amed Rosario (R), ss[/*:m:3sgg8tad][/list:o:3sgg8tad]

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 19 2018 10:12 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

d'Kong76 wrote: 41Forever wrote: Love the Fixx songs!!! The Fixx have a large video catalog. We can ride this puppy to Independence Day if the Mets are willing and able to cooperate. Wikipedia helpfully mentions that video is the first in which a mobile phone ever appeared (a modified Motorola KR999). I haven't listed to the Fixx in forever but do remember this song, which IMO doesn't get going till like 2 minutes in.

G-Fafif Jun 19 2018 11:22 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Unless I've missed something, tonight's staring outfield of Smith, Conforto and Nimmo is the first Mets' starting outfield in which each outfielder is younger than 26 since September 24, 1997: Butch Huskey, Carlos Mendoza, Alex Ochoa.

cooby Jun 19 2018 11:59 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

seawolf17 wrote: Centerfield wrote: "If you take away that one start at Coor's Field..." "...his ERA is actually only three digits." This reminds me of my little almost 3 year old grandson... He says grandma you are funny and so is owlie. (Helper at daycare) Owlie says ‘chicken poop’. Three year old boy humor

Nymr83 Jun 20 2018 12:38 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

I had no idea Smith could play the outfield. And so much for the plethora of capable outfielders we had. Injuries sort things out as usual.

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2018 01:24 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Wikipedia helpfully mentions that video is the first in which a mobile phone ever appeared (a modified Motorola KR999). I haven't listed to the Fixx in forever but do remember this song, which IMO doesn't get going till like 2 minutes in. I read that phone thing the other day, to me it looks like the phones they carried around when MASH went out in a jeep for some reason. Guess the technology is different. I just stumbled into our FIXX with the 'enough is enough' thing and hope to ride it into the next homestand! For those interested in baseball-related IGT material, the tarp is coming off but I don't think they've announced a start time yet.

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2018 01:28 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

10:00, yikes!

MFS62 Jun 20 2018 01:34 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Nymr83 wrote: I had no idea Smith could play the outfield. And so much for the plethora of capable outfielders we had. Injuries sort things out as usual. Just because he's playing in the outfield doesn't mean he can play the outfield. We'll find out. Later

cooby Jun 20 2018 01:44 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Looks like another wake up in the morning or in the middle of the night to see what happens

Nymr83 Jun 20 2018 01:53 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

MFS62 wrote: Nymr83 wrote: I had no idea Smith could play the outfield. And so much for the plethora of capable outfielders we had. Injuries sort things out as usual. Just because he's playing in the outfield doesn't mean he can play the outfield. We'll find out. Later Well, I meant "i had no idea he could even fake it enough that the manager would consider throwing him out there"

Zvon Jun 20 2018 01:55 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

d'Kong76 wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Wikipedia helpfully mentions that video is the first in which a mobile phone ever appeared (a modified Motorola KR999). I haven't listed to the Fixx in forever but do remember this song, which IMO doesn't get going till like 2 minutes in. I read that phone thing the other day, to me it looks like the phones they carried around when MASH went out in a jeep for some reason. Guess the technology is different. I just stumbled into our FIXX with the 'enough is enough' thing and hope to ride it into the next homestand! For those interested in baseball-related IGT material, the tarp is coming off but I don't think they've announced a start time yet. If you want to see the evolution of the mobile phone just watch an X-Files marathon.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 02:24 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Wilmer Flores going the other way is beautiful.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 20 2018 02:25 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

#slugfest

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2018 02:30 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Zvon wrote: If you want to see the evolution of the mobile phone just watch an X-Files marathon. Have never seen one episode. 2-2, gonna be one of those games.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 20 2018 02:30 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

#buntfest

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 02:35 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

"Our we ourselves?" is likely what Smith asks himself when he asked to be an outfielder.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 02:47 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Big dumb stupid shift.

Centerfield Jun 20 2018 02:51 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Rosario is not ready yet. Jesus. Can’t hit, catch or throw.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 20 2018 02:54 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

fucking Vargas

Centerfield Jun 20 2018 02:54 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Vargas getting lit up. What a surprise.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 20 2018 02:55 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

3 in a row

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 02:56 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Vargas looks like he has to two black eyes.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 02:59 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Vargie's night is done and done.

Centerfield Jun 20 2018 03:00 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

I would be fine to never see Vargas pitch for the Mets again. What a fucking joke this guy is.

Centerfield Jun 20 2018 03:00 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

We need to stop this home run barrage. Dave, call the pen. Get Robles up!

Methead Jun 20 2018 03:08 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

nitey nite all

Centerfield Jun 20 2018 03:08 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

This is fun Vargas starts. Robles receives. Maybe we can ask Eric O Flaherty to swing by.

Nymr83 Jun 20 2018 03:10 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Methead wrote: nitey nite all yeah, thanks for giving it up in the 3rd innin at least. cya tomorrow Mets!

41Forever Jun 20 2018 03:12 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Anything can happen in this ballpark against this team's bullpen. Plus, we have Nimmo. We've got plenty of time to come back! Vargas was due for an awful start, and he's struggled at Coors before. Robles just kinda stinks.

Centerfield Jun 20 2018 03:24 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

That’s it for me. Fuck Vargas. That piece of trash is the embodiment of Sandy Alderson and the Madoff Mets.

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2018 03:35 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Back in the crapper again.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 03:37 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Come back, Mets. Don't take this thin air nonsense.

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2018 03:40 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Sad fundies, rinse repeat...

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 04:23 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Dang, this Rockos bullpen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 20 2018 04:26 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

dudes we got 1 in and the bases loaded Conforto up.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 20 2018 04:35 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Frazier grounds out to end the threat

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 04:45 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

And yet, we keep swinging at shit out of the zone.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 05:02 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Rosario is fast enough to make Arrenado reckless.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 05:05 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

How in the world does Cabrera swing 2-0 with the tying run on deck? Why do the Mets do that shit?

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 05:06 AM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Blub.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 06:02 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

I'm a LOT more pissed at Cabrera than Vargas. He came up in the ninth against a pitcher beating himself as so many Rockies relievers have. Their only current reliever pitching well had already been used, and the Mets were down by four. Against Davis. Who had walked four guys and given up four runs in a third of an inning last time out. So this time, he bears in against the free-swinging José Reyes ... and walks hims! Tying run on double deck. All of Colorado is starting to feel dread and pressure, and when Amed Rosario taps a soft grounder to the best fielding third baseman on earth, he throws it down the line. Up comes Cabrera with the tying run on deck! 100% of everybody affiliated with the sad, sad Colorado cause is thinking "Here we go AGAIN!" Desperate for something, ANYTHING, to avert disaster, Bud Black gets one of his starters up in the pen. It's a starter having a crap year, but it's time poor Bud tries something. He's desperate. And then Davis falls behind 2-0. What you do here is let a guy on his heels beat himself. Plus, any 13-year-old knows that with the tying run behind you in the ninth, a walk is a good as a homerun. It's better than a homerun, because the next guy is facing a more fatigued and demoralized pitcher, with the nuisance of guys on the bags. Next pitch comes in at the shins ... and for some unfathomable reason, Cabrera swung. All Vargas did was fail. Are we ourselves, indeed.

Centerfield Jun 20 2018 06:07 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Edgy MD wrote: I'm a LOT more pissed at Cabrera than Vargas. He came up in the ninth against a pitcher beating himself as so many Rockies relievers have. Their only current reliever pitching well had already been used, and the Mets were down by four. Against Davis. Who had walked four guys and given up four runs in a third of an inning last time out. So this time, he bears in against the free-swinging José Reyes ... and walks hims! Tying run on double deck. All of Colorado is starting to feel dread and pressure, and when Amed Rosario taps a soft grounder to the best fielding third baseman on earth, he throws it down the line. Up comes Cabrera with the tying run on deck! 100% of everybody affiliated with the sad, sad Colorado cause is thinking "Here we go AGAIN!" Desperate for something, ANYTHING, to avert disaster, Bud Black gets one of his starters up in the pen. It's a starter having a crap year, but it's time poor Bud tries something. He's desperate. And then Davis falls behind 2-0. What you do here is let a guy on his heels beat himself. Plus, any 13-year-old knows that with the tying run behind you in the ninth, a walk is a good as a homerun. It's better than a homerun, because the next guy is facing a more fatigued and demoralized pitcher, with the nuisance of guys on the bags. Next pitch comes in at the shins ... and for some unfathomable reason, Cabrera swung. All Vargas did was fail. Are we ourselves, indeed. I had long since gone to bed when this went down. That is infuriating indeed. But this happens like, all the time with this team.

Ceetar Jun 20 2018 06:26 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Centerfield wrote: But this happens like, all the time with [crossout]this[/crossout] every team.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 06:41 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

I wish. But if it's so, I'd sure like to see my team be the first to turn back from this madness.

Ceetar Jun 20 2018 07:02 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Hitting is hard. Sometimes you gotta identify your pitch and try to get on, even on 2-0 or 3-0. Sometimes it's your best shot. If he'd taken the strike, it's 2-1. He might not get another hittable pitch. I mean, he threw the same fastball, just a smidge slower with a bit less spin, but instead of off the plate outside, it was dead center, just at the bottom of the zone. But that's classic pitch sequencing right? Throw a ball high to raise the eye level, and then throw one low and they swing over it. The pitch itself was a crappier pitch, which probably wasn't by design. If it'd dropped as much as the first two, Cabrera swings over it completely and gets another shot. But it was a pitch that was dead center with 9 inches of vertical movement. Hitting is hard.

Vic Sage Jun 20 2018 07:13 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

hitting is hard. wow. you should sew that on a pillow.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 07:15 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Hitting is hard. It's harder if you have a counter-productive approach.

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2018 07:18 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Hitting is hard. When you swing at crap a foot and a half off the plate and your bat isn't a foot and a half longer. Conforto left like a half dozen men on last night.

Ceetar Jun 20 2018 07:21 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

d'Kong76 wrote: Hitting is hard. When you swing at crap a foot and a half off the plate and your bat isn't a foot and a half longer. Conforto left like a half dozen men on last night. Sure, but Cabrera swung at a dead center pitch at the bottom of the zone. a strike.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2018 07:22 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Based on 2018 numbers, once a guy reaches 2-0, his OBP for the at-bat is .506, with a .225 walk rate. At this point, he has already kind of won the at-bat, tilting the odds from the pitcher's favor to his own, when all he has to do is get on any way he can. Forgetting about the fact that this is a pitcher struggling with his control, if he takes the and it's a strike right down the pipe his On-Base-Percentage going forward from there is still .387. But put that ball in play, and his OBP (and batting average) is .338. Leave the bat on your shoulder! Make him throw a strike! Science!

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2018 07:25 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Officially, 5 LOB... wouldn't want to exaggerate.

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2018 07:28 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

I can smell the chemicals Blinding me with science, science Science Science

batmagadanleadoff Jun 20 2018 07:39 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Edgy MD wrote: Forgetting about the fact that this is a pitcher struggling with his control, if he takes the and it's a strike right down the pipe his On-Base-Percentage going forward from there is still .387. But put that ball in play, and his OBP (and batting average) is .338. I'll bet it's a lot higher in Denver.

Ceetar Jun 20 2018 07:42 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?

Edgy MD wrote: Based on 2018 numbers, once a guy reaches 2-0, his OBP for the at-bat is .506, with a .225 walk rate. At this point, he has already kind of won the at-bat, tilting the odds from the pitcher's favor to his own, when all he has to do is get on any way he can. Forgetting about the fact that this is a pitcher struggling with his control, if he takes the and it's a strike right down the pipe his On-Base-Percentage going forward from there is still .387. But put that ball in play, and his OBP (and batting average) is .338. Leave the bat on your shoulder! Make him throw a strike! Science! so literally more batters get hits after 2-0 than end up walking. I'm not sure .387 vs .338 is worth an automatic take on 2-0 if you identify the pitch as hittable. I wonder what those splits are when the third pitch is in the zone.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2018 02:52 PM Re: IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?