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IGT 7/17/18: All-Star Game, "This Time It Doesn't Count"

bmfc1
Jul 08 2018 11:34 PM

deGrom!

MFS62
Jul 08 2018 11:39 PM
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I'll predict he won't get the decision.
Later

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 09 2018 12:43 AM
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DeGrom is the obvious choice. Really the only choice.

G-Fafif
Jul 09 2018 12:52 AM
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Very happy for Jake, the first Met to earn multiple selections as a Met since David Wright's last All-Star berth in 2013.

Mets who've been the Mets' only pick more than once (pending lightning striking and Nimmo suddenly getting named):

Ron Hunt 1964, 1966
John Stearns 1977, 1980, 1982 (also picked alongside Mazzilli in 1979)
Bobby Bonilla 1993, 1995
Mike Piazza 1999, 2002 (also picked alongside teammates five times)
Jacob deGrom 2015, 2018

Ceetar
Jul 09 2018 01:35 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
DeGrom is the obvious choice. Really the only choice.

Mets have like 40 guys who could've gone.

Did you mean some mystical merit based game? Well, Nimmo obviously. Asdrubal has fallen off a bit lately but he's still have a good season. He wouldn't be a bad pick.

Zack Wheeler is 11th in qualified SP fWAR. That's probably border line but wouldn't be a wrong pick depending on who bows out/pitches Sunday and how many relievers you take.

That's probably it though.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 09 2018 01:52 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
DeGrom is the obvious choice. Really the only choice.

Mets have like 40 guys who could've gone.

Forty? Really? I think you're too high by about 39.

Vic Sage
Jul 09 2018 02:01 PM
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i think he's too high, too.

Ceetar
Jul 09 2018 02:54 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
DeGrom is the obvious choice. Really the only choice.

Mets have like 40 guys who could've gone.

Forty? Really? I think you're too high by about 39.

I"m low. 46 players have played for the Mets this season, and if fans had decided to mount a campaign and vote in Phillip Evans, he would've played in the game.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 09 2018 03:11 PM
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Oh, so you're talking about people who are technically eligible, the same way that I'm eligible to be pope because I was baptized Catholic, even though I'm now an athiest.

I was talking about reasonable choices. Philip Evans is as likely to be an All-Star as I am to be the next pope. Jacob deGrom is the only Met who deserves to be an All-Star based on merit. If he wasn't around, then the Mets would get a pity choice.

Edgy MD
Jul 09 2018 03:21 PM
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You gotta be unmarried to be pope. My money is on Evans.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 09 2018 03:28 PM
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I'm sure you know more about this than I do, but I found this simple explanation, which means I have a shot:

6. The next pope doesn’t necessarily have to be a cardinal.
There are only two requirements for becoming pope: being male and being baptized into the Catholic Church. But although this technically leaves hundreds of millions of people eligible, they shouldn’t hold their breath. A non-cardinal hasn’t been chosen since 1378, when the selection of Urban VI brought about the Western Schism.

And this more detailed explanation, which would rule me out, not because of marriage but because of parts of (1) and (4) and (5):

A person who is elected as Roman Pontiff must be ordained a bishop immediately after election, if he does not already hold such office.

Second:
Can. 378 §1. In regard to the suitability of a candidate for the episcopacy, it is required that he is:
1/ outstanding in solid faith, good morals, piety, zeal for souls, wisdom, prudence, and human virtues, and endowed with other qualities which make him suitable to fulfill the office in question;
2/ of good reputation;
3/ at least thirty-Five years old;
4/ ordained to the presbyterate for at least Five years;
5/ in possession of a doctorate or at least a licentiate in sacred scripture, theology, or canon law from an institute of higher studies approved by the Apostolic See, or at least truly expert in the same disciplines.

Ceetar
Jul 09 2018 03:32 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Oh, so you're talking about people who are technically eligible, the same way that I'm eligible to be pope because I was baptized Catholic, even though I'm now an athiest.

I was talking about reasonable choices. Philip Evans is as likely to be an All-Star as I am to be the next pope. Jacob deGrom is the only Met who deserves to be an All-Star based on merit. If he wasn't around, then the Mets would get a pity choice.

well, you're still wrong as i made the case for the merits of three others.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 09 2018 04:08 PM
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Well, I disagree. So you're wrong. Cabrera, Nimmo, and Wheeler (I guess) are having good seasons, but not deserving of All-Star. (Unless as a solo Mets pity selection.)

seawolf17
Jul 09 2018 04:15 PM
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Nimmo's the only other player this season who'd even come close.

Edgy MD
Jul 09 2018 08:42 PM
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Cabrera's sixth in fWAR among NL secondbaseman. He'd be a higher (and a defensible All-Star choice), but his baserunning has been pedestrian and his defense an unambiguous negative.

Of course, that was before today's homerun. Tomorrow's data may disagree.

Frayed Knot
Jul 14 2018 02:16 AM
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Aroldis Chapman is this year's entry in the annual Yanqui tradition of pulling out of the All-Star game citing a strain of his 'I don't want to pitch in the All-Star Game' tendon.

41Forever
Jul 14 2018 02:25 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Aroldis Chapman is this year's entry in the annual Yanqui tradition of pulling out of the All-Star game citing a strain of his 'I don't want to pitch in the All-Star Game' tendon.

Not that I want to get in the habit of defending MFY scum, but when we were at the game in Toronto on Saturday, Chapman left after one batter claiming injury. I don't know if he's pitched since then.

Frayed Knot
Jul 14 2018 02:32 AM
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He hasn't pitched since way back ... yesterday.

The Yanx only had a three run lead and, in fairness, the Indians did have the bottom of the lineup due up.

HahnSolo
Jul 16 2018 11:24 AM
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Its a rite of July: the annual tradition of Yankee fans imploring voters/managers to put 8, 9, even 10 MFYs on the all-star team but protesting violently when they actually have to play in the game.

G-Fafif
Jul 16 2018 06:48 PM
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Scherzer vs. Sale, with Dave Roberts announcing Jake will be first reliever in.

Centerfield
Jul 16 2018 06:51 PM
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Not a surprise. I guess you could make the case Kershaw deserved it over Harvey in 2013.

It is what it is.

But this year, it usually ends with Jake getting screwed.

G-Fafif
Jul 16 2018 06:56 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
Not a surprise. I guess you could make the case Kershaw deserved it over Harvey in 2013.

It is what it is.

But this year, it usually ends with Jake getting screwed.

Interesting how home field has been a factor the last two times we've had a legitimate ASG starter candidate. Harvey and Kershaw would have been close in any ballpark; same for deGrom and Scherzer.

At least Roberts intends to use a Met at some point in the game, unlike Terry Collins in 2016.

G-Fafif
Jul 16 2018 07:02 PM
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Senior Circuit

Baez 2B
Arnado 3B
Goldschmidt Some Bullshit Position That Shouldn't Exist
Freeman 1B
Kemp LF
Harper CF
Markakis RF
Crawford SS
Contreras C

Scherzer SP
DeGrom First RP, or the best reason for watching

G-Fafif
Jul 16 2018 07:04 PM
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Junior Circuit

Betts RF
Altuve 2B
Trout CF
Martinez Not Exactly A Baseball Position
Ramirez 3B
Judge LF
Machado SS
Abreu 1B
Fuck Salvador Perez for 2015 C
Sale P

Edgy MD
Jul 16 2018 07:12 PM
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Nothing gets by Major League Catcher Salvador Peréz. Not even bugs.

41Forever
Jul 17 2018 11:53 PM
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Bum Nationals fans just booed deGrom! Bastards.

Loved Harper’s pre-game interview, though.

41Forever
Jul 18 2018 12:10 AM
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Very impressive presentation with Medal of Honor recipients and anthem!

Zvon
Jul 18 2018 12:19 AM
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Before baseball vid games, which are awsome, we had baseball games like this one, and I loved this one.
In retrospect it was lame but I loved it.

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41Forever
Jul 18 2018 12:24 AM
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I didn’t realize that each league has won 43 games.

Zvon
Jul 18 2018 12:26 AM
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41Forever wrote:
I didn’t realize that each league has won 43 games.

I didn't know that either. Very cool.

41Forever
Jul 18 2018 12:43 AM
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Stinking Judge.

41Forever
Jul 18 2018 01:00 AM
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Jake in the game!!!

41Forever
Jul 18 2018 01:00 AM
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One down!!!

41Forever
Jul 18 2018 01:02 AM
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Two down!

Too bad the booth is more concerned with interviewing Bryce.

At least Bryce brings the conversation back to de Grom.

41Forever
Jul 18 2018 01:03 AM
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Rats. Trout goes deep.

41Forever
Jul 18 2018 01:05 AM
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And Jake gets the final out swinging.

bmfc1
Jul 18 2018 01:09 AM
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Get 3 runs and Jake gets the win.

Zvon
Jul 18 2018 01:15 AM
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41Forever wrote:
Rats. Trout goes deep.

I'm not gonna let that bother me cause.....well, it's Trout.

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Zvon
Jul 18 2018 01:17 AM
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I just gagged a little because I'm rooting for Fkn Freddy Freeman.

'lil bit.

Zvon
Jul 18 2018 01:31 AM
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They have turned my All Star Game into a circus.

41Forever
Jul 18 2018 01:48 AM
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Zvon wrote:
They have turned my All Star Game into a circus.

Too many on-field interviews.

Zvon
Jul 18 2018 01:59 AM
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41Forever wrote:
Zvon wrote:
They have turned my All Star Game into a circus.

Too many on-field interviews.

I find that practice totally ridiculous. I was hoping a ball would get hit to Harper and he would just stand there and keep yakkin, ignoring ball.

I didn't think it possible to make the ASG any more unwatchable.

d'Kong76
Jul 18 2018 02:02 AM
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I've only watched some. Trout gave that deG pitch a clout.

There's probably some research that shows outfielders talking into
mics is somehow entertaining but I find it boring. At least now it's
now an exhibition game again and I guess they're gonna dumb it
up as much as possible from here on out.

Seems all the four major sports these days except hockey have
people running it that went to The Vince McMahon School of Biz.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 18 2018 02:12 AM
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I prefer the dumb interviews to pretending there's something meaningful on the line, even if there is.

d'Kong76
Jul 18 2018 02:18 AM
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You're right about the pretending and meaningful, I probably should have
left out the part about it now again being an exhibition game I guess.

Zvon
Jul 18 2018 02:23 AM
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I long for the days when we could simply watch the game and hear some good 'ol boring play by play.

41Forever
Jul 18 2018 02:39 AM
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Meaningless, but people care. Trevor Story just tied it up!!!!

I'm still pissed Terry didn't play any of the Mets in 2016. I know it's dumb.

Zvon
Jul 18 2018 02:41 AM
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41Forever wrote:
Meaningless, but people care. Trevor Story just tied it up!!!!

I'm still pissed Terry didn't play any of the Mets in 2016. I know it's dumb.

To me it means something because it's baseball history in the making.

41Forever
Jul 18 2018 02:45 AM
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Zvon wrote:
41Forever wrote:
Meaningless, but people care. Trevor Story just tied it up!!!!

I'm still pissed Terry didn't play any of the Mets in 2016. I know it's dumb.

To me it means something because it's baseball history in the making.

Right there with you! People in Detroit still talk about Reggie's homer at Tiger Stadium.

d'Kong76
Jul 18 2018 02:47 AM
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Zvon wrote:
I long for the days when we could simply watch the game and hear some good 'ol boring play by play.

I don't really long for anything, baseball wise. Players being interviewed
while on the field kinda feels a little too video-gameish or something to me.
Like that graphic one of the networks uses to show a lead off first if it's 9 ft,
10 ft, 14 ft... just stop already!

Zvon
Jul 18 2018 02:50 AM
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41Forever wrote:
41Forever wrote:
Meaningless, but people care. Trevor Story just tied it up!!!!

I'm still pissed Terry didn't play any of the Mets in 2016. I know it's dumb.

To me it means something because it's baseball history in the making.

Right there with you! People in Detroit still talk about Reggie's homer at Tiger Stadium.

It counts....in our hearts.

lol

Zvon
Jul 18 2018 02:53 AM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
Zvon wrote:
I long for the days when we could simply watch the game and hear some good 'ol boring play by play.

I don't really long for anything, baseball wise. Players being interviewed
while on the field kinda feels a little too video-gameish or something to me.
Like that graphic one of the networks uses to show a lead off first if it's 9 ft,
10 ft, 14 ft... just stop already!

I wish it was video gameish in that I could lower the broadcasters volumn and turn up the game sounds.

41Forever
Jul 18 2018 02:58 AM
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Rats. There goes the game.

Frayed Knot
Jul 18 2018 02:58 AM
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Hader's gonna hade.

41Forever
Jul 18 2018 03:35 AM
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Scooter Gennett, American hero!!!

Zvon
Jul 18 2018 03:38 AM
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41Forever
Jul 18 2018 03:42 AM
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Son of a ....

Dodger pitchers forever giving it up to Astro hitters.

Zvon
Jul 18 2018 03:45 AM
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Damn. Short lived.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 18 2018 03:46 AM
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geez someone discovered a lot of really inappropriate, and really old, remarks on Haders twitter, evidently during the game!

Zvon
Jul 18 2018 04:01 AM
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Good game. I enjoyed this. Not the losing, but this was a decent 2018 type game (homer city). The N.L. did make it exciting.

Frayed Knot
Jul 18 2018 11:03 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
geez someone discovered a lot of really inappropriate, and really old, remarks on Haders twitter, evidently during the game!

Two steps to take after becoming famous:
Step One: Erase everything you've ever said or done on social media
Step Two: See 'Step One'

Frayed Knot
Jul 18 2018 12:54 PM
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So let's see here: 10 innings, 18 pitchers, 14 combined runs scored with 13 of them coming via the HR; also 9 BBs & 25 Ks against 20 hits, a full half of those 20 hits were HRs
Ladies and gentlemen: welcome to major league baseball, 2018 style!

Perhaps no ASG has more symbolized its year since Willie McCovey knocked in the only run of the game on a 1st inning GiDP back in 1968, a game which featured eight hits combined, seven of them singles.
Oh, and the run was unearned.
Some rookie named Koosman came on with 2 outs in the 9th to strike out Yax for the final out and the save.

metirish
Jul 18 2018 01:08 PM
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I didn't see one bit of the Home Run Derby and briefly tuned into the ASG, I just couldn't watch Buck fellating the mic'd up players

Edgy MD
Jul 18 2018 01:12 PM
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I checked two different stories on the Hader incident, and neither of them quoted the tweets, even with redactions — or even characterized the content.

I guess I don't want to dig further if they're that unspeakable.

metirish
Jul 18 2018 01:17 PM
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So, can MLB punish him for this ? will they?

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 18 2018 01:21 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I checked two different stories on the Hader incident, and neither of them quoted the tweets, even with redactions — or even characterized the content.

Newsday described the tweets as "homophobic and racist".

Edgy MD
Jul 18 2018 01:42 PM
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metirish wrote:
So, can MLB punish him for this ? will they?

I hope not. It'd be a weird precedent.

I imagine the marketplace will punish him though. There goes your Puma endorsement.

Edgy MD
Jul 18 2018 01:59 PM
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[tweet:3ad6axiv]https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1019429675150598146[/tweet:3ad6axiv]

Edgy MD
Jul 18 2018 02:06 PM
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Ouch.

[tweet:k9hufqxp]https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1019429049461104640[/tweet:k9hufqxp]

Centerfield
Jul 18 2018 02:20 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
geez someone discovered a lot of really inappropriate, and really old, remarks on Haders twitter, evidently during the game!

Two steps to take after becoming famous:
Step One: Erase everything you've ever said or done on social media
Step Two: See 'Step One'

Alternatively,

Step One: Don't be a racist, homophobic misogynistic dickhead
Step Two: If you are one, don't post it on social media

This will probably end up with him getting sensitivity training or something like that. Probably voluntarily. I can't imagine they can suspend him for something he did before he was in MLB.

The guy said what he said, and posted it to the world. So he should get all the consequences that follow.

That being said, it looks like he is sincerely apologetic, and has taken responsibility for what he said. His teammates seem to think this doesn't reflect who he is now. So there is that. Anytime something like this comes up, I thank god that there was no internet, camera phones, or any social media when I was in HS/college.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 18 2018 02:27 PM
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He should punished just for trying to rip off deGrom's flow

Edgy MD
Jul 18 2018 02:38 PM
Re: IGT 7/17/18: All-Star Game, "This Time It Doesn't Count"

geez someone discovered a lot of really inappropriate, and really old, remarks on Haders twitter, evidently during the game!

Two steps to take after becoming famous:
Step One: Erase everything you've ever said or done on social media
Step Two: See 'Step One'

Alternatively,

Step One: Don't be a racist, homophobic misogynistic dickhead
Step Two: If you are one, don't post it on social media

This will probably end up with him getting sensitivity training or something like that. Probably voluntarily. I can't imagine they can suspend him for something he did before he was in MLB.

The guy said what he said, and posted it to the world. So he should get all the consequences that follow.

That being said, it looks like he is sincerely apologetic, and has taken responsibility for what he said. His teammates seem to think this doesn't reflect who he is now. So there is that. Anytime something like this comes up, I thank god that there was no internet, camera phones, or any social media when I was in HS/college.

Deadspin had almost the exact same hot take as Centerfield, including virtually the same two enumerated takeaways.

="Chris Thompson at Deadspin"]Hader would’ve been 17 years old when he saw fit to fart most of these vile thoughts out into the world—old enough to know better, of course, but young enough to still be a punk teenager, and a punk teenager who was tweeting at a time when Twitter was not remotely what it is now. He will have to eat shit for all this, one way or another, and he’ll deserve every bite of it. But there’s a teachable moment here all the same. Lesson one is don’t be an outrageous bigot. Lesson two, as always, is never tweet.

Centerfield
Jul 18 2018 03:24 PM
Re: IGT 7/17/18: All-Star Game, "This Time It Doesn't Count"

I feel so starkly average.