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I think they're going to fire Alderson
Centerfield Jun 26 2018 07:48 AM |
The local papers have been letting him have it recently, including the Daily News. Which I think may be a sign that the Mets are preparing to make him the fall guy.
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Ceetar Jun 26 2018 07:56 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
I've waffled on Alderson over the years. He's made some good moves and bad. Some good moves that went bad too. I have no idea what his fascination is with Jay Bruce who he presumably has been constantly trying to trade at various points since he's been here and it seems like he's the only one that wants him.
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d'Kong76 Jun 26 2018 02:30 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Reports are surfacing that Sandy is taking an immediate leave of absence
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Frayed Knot Jun 26 2018 02:44 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
NYP:
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HahnSolo Jun 26 2018 02:50 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Best of luck to Sandy.
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 26 2018 02:57 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
My guess is that Ricco will be the decision maker.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 26 2018 03:10 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Joel Sherman tweeting to the effect of the 3-headed monster, being the most Wilponian solution.
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batmagadanleadoff Jun 26 2018 03:12 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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That's what Jeff'll say. When it's a bad decision.
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Ceetar Jun 26 2018 03:17 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
hopefully they'll being the process of looking for a replacement immediately and this will be temporary.
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bmfc1 Jun 26 2018 03:28 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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[tweet]https://twitter.com/NYPost_Mets/status/1011717651679318016[/tweet]
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41Forever Jun 26 2018 03:42 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Wishing Sandy a swift and full recovery. If he decides not to return, I thank him for making 2015 and 2016 special.
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Valadius Jun 26 2018 04:03 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Did Sandy Alderson just low-key resign?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 26 2018 04:05 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
yes
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d'Kong76 Jun 26 2018 04:21 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
That's my take watching his announcement replay just now.
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Mex17 Jun 26 2018 04:47 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 26 2018 05:04 PM |
I think Alderson handled himself amazingly in the press conference. It's not easy to look your own mortality in the face, let alone having to do it in the public eye. The guy is a Marine, through and through.
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Ashie62 Jun 26 2018 05:00 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Best of luck to Sandy
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cooby Jun 26 2018 05:12 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2018 08:30 AM |
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Wishing him well. There is no way this mess of a team is his personal responsibility* *edited to correct error made by posting with my phone
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Lefty Specialist Jun 26 2018 05:13 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Best of luck to Sandy, but this will be a chaotic front office now.
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G-Fafif Jun 26 2018 05:19 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Howie clearly shaken by the news tonight.
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Zvon Jun 26 2018 06:05 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
[tweet:1grobfd7]https://twitter.com/martinonyc/status/1011761622887665676[/tweet:1grobfd7]
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MFS62 Jun 26 2018 07:17 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
We were waiting for, some wanting, him to leave.
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Centerfield Jun 26 2018 09:06 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Jeff Wilpon has every opportunity to say “When Sandy recovers, we fully expect him to resume his position as the General Manager of the Mets. He is our guy and has our full support.â€
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Zvon Jun 26 2018 09:10 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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Fantastically said CF. If you don't tweet that, I will.
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Zvon Jun 26 2018 09:38 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
GAH! Way to many letters for a tweet. But I condensed and still twatted. Used every damn letter available.
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Centerfield Jun 26 2018 10:52 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
No worries. Just followed you!
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Zvon Jun 27 2018 12:10 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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Cool. Please give me your twitter handle. I'm going to have to go to school on Instagram, but first I have to graduate from twitter, which I'm getting good at. It moves so damn fast (at least during the game, which has pretty much the only time I'm active there). Instagram might be the best for my image stuff. PS: I'll drive you crazy during games CF, lol. Or crazier. lol.
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metirish Jun 27 2018 06:09 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Best to Sandy
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Ceetar Jun 27 2018 07:29 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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It's be unfair to the Mets to hold that job for him. You don't think they talked about this before hand? Doing that almost mandates that they go forward with this three-headed monster rather than actively look for a replacement/future. They'll miss a guiding hand at the trade deadline, but otherwise this is a particularly slow time and a great time to hire someone. (It's pretty obvious they were waiting for the draft to end) And come on, the Mets love to give their old execs cushy jobs. If Alderson wants to come back in some capacity, the Wilpons will make that happen. That's the sorta meddling we complain about right? Anyway, Good luck Sandy.
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MFS62 Jun 27 2018 08:22 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
While he's gone, I'm not forgetting that JP Ricciardi WAS a major league GM (Blue Jays).
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cooby Jun 27 2018 08:31 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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He was fired? Couldn't they have worded it a little less harshly
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Centerfield Jun 27 2018 08:33 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
The Daily News confirming basically what we knew yesterday, which is that Sandy has been fired.
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MFS62 Jun 27 2018 08:37 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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In the military, we were committed to never leaving a man behind. The Wilpons left a Marine behind. Among other things they don't have, they don't have honor. Later
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Centerfield Jun 27 2018 08:43 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
By the way, not a single pat on the back for calling this hours before it went down?
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 27 2018 08:45 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
You're like one of those therapy cats who can predict cancer.
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Edgy MD Jun 27 2018 08:47 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
"Man, why did you invite Centerfield? He's a cool dude, but this event isn't really his thing."
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Edgy MD Jun 27 2018 08:48 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Whoah, The Thing beats me to the punch again.
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d'Kong76 Jun 27 2018 09:37 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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Ya get one thing right in like two decades and you want a medal? hahaha
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smg58 Jun 27 2018 10:01 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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Bringing the subject away from cancer -- because, well, cancer -- and onto baseball, the author talked about needing to trade our big pitchers to replenish our badly depleted farm system, while mentioning two guys who had an OPS in excess of 1.000 at Binghamton (not a hitters' paradise). I'll take that kind of depletion in the farm system, thank you very much. And anybody who wants to fit DeGrom in pinstripes can (insert crude response of your choice here). That being said, some creativity is absolutely in order. Cespedes could help an American League team who needs a DH a lot. Nobody will pay $58M over two seasons for him, but I bet we could get out from under most of it. Give Nimmo and Conforto the corners, and bring in a real centerfielder (because, DEFENSE). The catch -- AJ Pollack would be a phenomenal fit for this team, outside of his tendency to get hurt. Trade Bruce for a similar contract. One such similar contract (outside of the signing bonuses which would presumably remain the responsibility of the signing teams) is Mark Melancon. Even with Hunter Strickland's embarrassing injury, the Giants have a loaded pen. They do not have a left fielder. (And won't have a right fielder going into the offseason.) Teams are adjusting to all-or-nothing swingers by pitching them to keep the ball in the park and shifting, shifting, shifting. Stay away from those hitters.
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Nymr83 Jun 27 2018 10:21 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Bruce for Melancon is intriguing, because it seems like a fair exchange of duplicative and somewhat overpaid but still useful assets and not a "WFAN caller trade". remind me of Vaughn for Appier
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Edgy MD Jun 27 2018 10:23 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
I think we can be (though we shouldn't be) very binary about farm systems, and overweigh rankings which, as researched as they are, arbitrarily ignore or marginalize several meaningful factors.
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Ashie62 Jun 27 2018 11:04 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
The three headed GM's need to agree whether to stand pat, lighten up, or sell it all.
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smg58 Jun 27 2018 11:59 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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Amen.
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Lefty Specialist Jun 27 2018 12:41 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Any trade that would bring back something of value would require the Wilpons eating salary. That's not happening, so there won't be value coming back, if they can be moved at all.
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Mex17 Jun 27 2018 03:46 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2018 04:37 PM |
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Never. Why? THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN!!!!!!
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Mex17 Jun 27 2018 03:50 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
"Conduct a through search for a new GM including people outside of the organization at the end of the season" and "Expect a flurry of creative activity at the trade deadline where no single player is safe" are wildly incongruent with one another. So, naturally, both of these are exactly what the Wilpons have in mind.
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Edgy MD Jun 27 2018 04:58 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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Why? Because he comes across like a Trump-era, self-promoting snake oil salesman; video of his training sessions makes him seem abusive and reckless; and the proliferation of back injuries on his watch supports this impression.
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Frayed Knot Jun 28 2018 06:05 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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So the alternative then is what: to leave the roster untouched this year and/or only consider candidates already here?
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Mex17 Jun 28 2018 03:57 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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Yes. Because no self-respecting candidate from the outside is going to consider taking a rebuilding job after all of the major bullets have been fired prior to his opportunity to even interview. Anybody of worth is going to want to make major decisions such as trading deGrom or Syndergaard (or anybody else other than the guys heading into free agency this winter) for himself.
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Frayed Knot Jun 28 2018 06:30 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
That's absurd. The whole purpose of making trades towards the deadline would be to fill holes in the roster going forward -- and which potential GM is going to take that kind of job? ... Plenty of them!
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MFS62 Jun 28 2018 06:38 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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That would be self-inflicted myopia. But track record tells us they are not exactly prone toward out-of-the-box thinking. Not expecting it this time, but would be pleasantly surprised if they break the mold. Later
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 28 2018 07:00 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
The last GM the Mets hired came from outside the organization.
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Mex17 Jun 28 2018 07:34 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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That's not what I said. Going outside is healthy, but I stand by my statement that quality people are going to want to shape the rebuild themselves rather than accept whatever it is that Riccinayachhardi leaves them as a result of a fire sale that takes place before they are even hired.
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Mex17 Jun 28 2018 07:39 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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And, as I stated earlier in this thread, even he could not overcome Baby Boy Jeffy's meddling. This is why I am bearish on this (moreso than I ever have been in 38 years of following this team).
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Frayed Knot Jun 28 2018 08:38 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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If and when there's a new head honcho after this season then he'll have plenty of reshaping to do and, at least theoretically, with a more versatile roster as a starting point. In the meantime, no one is simply going to put the franchise in mothballs for a half year.
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 29 2018 06:43 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
There are only 30 MLB GM jobs in the world, and each one is highly coveted. Any incoming GM who gets miffed that trades were made three months before he was hired is too much of a diva and we'd be better off without him.
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Frayed Knot Jun 29 2018 07:45 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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As always, this is true. And whoever the incoming dude winds up being, incumbent or outsider, I would think he'd prefer to start with at least a partially remade roster as opposed to one that was decidedly sub-par but then intentionally left that way.
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Vic Sage Jun 29 2018 08:35 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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Don't act on any motions until after the election... let the people decide! on edit: sorry, wrong thread.
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Frayed Knot Jun 29 2018 09:49 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
And of course no potential trades or new hires can be made until considering the most important question in all of sports these days: How will this all affect LeBron?
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d'Kong76 Jun 29 2018 10:20 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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Don't forget Tiger.
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Centerfield Dec 11 2018 07:37 AM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
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One thing I read on twitter (though I can't find it now) is that Sandy Alderson is in LV, cancer-free, and looking for work. Good for Sandy. Kicking cancer's ass is the most important thing. If Alderson really is looking for work, then I stand by my position that the leave of absence was just a cowardly way of firing Sandy.
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Centerfield Dec 11 2018 03:30 PM Re: I think they're going to fire Alderson |
Found the article.
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