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I'm rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Centerfield
Jun 30 2018 08:17 AM

I mean. What else is there to root for this summer? I hope he comes back. Citi sells out that night. Reyes gets the sentimental start at SS next to him. He hits a dramatic HR. Gets a standing ovation. Goes out on his terms.

Sure, this goodwill tour will end up costing the Wilpons quite a bit of money. In a way, that makes it better.

seawolf17
Jun 30 2018 08:43 AM
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I can't imagine *not* rooting for a comeback. I don't have any realistic notion that he'll be a key piece of a World Series team any more, but I want to see him back on the field again. Ten more home runs seems like a pipe dream, but you never know.

Edgy MD
Jun 30 2018 09:53 AM
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Why not? He wouldn't be the first player to successfully return from spinal stenosis. Or spinal fusion surgery. Or a torn rotator cuff.

All three? Um ...

Frayed Knot
Jun 30 2018 11:05 AM
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He certainly doesn't look as ghastly thin as he did a number of months back (early this year? late last year? - can't remember now) and he's at least doing some baseball activities.

Rockin' Doc
Jun 30 2018 11:06 AM
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I sincerely wish for a David Wright to make it back (if only for a few games) so the fans can show their appreciation for all he did for the franchise. Wright deserves to be honored as one of the greatest players in Mets history. He represented the team with talent and class.

Ashie62
Jun 30 2018 11:11 AM
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Sure! Something to pull for as the trading season begins

MFS62
Jun 30 2018 06:09 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Ashie62 wrote:
Sure! Something to pull for as the trading season begins

You want them to trade David Wright if he's healthy?
Where did you read that?

Later

41Forever
Aug 11 2018 01:57 PM
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According to the internets, David Wright is playing third tomorrow for St. Lucie!

smg58
Aug 11 2018 02:38 PM
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It would be something.

MFS62
Aug 11 2018 03:24 PM
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Well, I guess they'll need something to attract fans in September, since they've announced they won't be bringing up Alonso.
You know - a move that might actually be beneficial for the future.

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 11 2018 03:32 PM
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Keeping Alonso in the minors until next May 1 would be more beneficial for the long-term future than having him accrue service time playing meaningless games this month and next. I support not promoting him.

Frayed Knot
Aug 11 2018 04:13 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2018 05:21 PM

MFS62 wrote:
Well, I guess they'll need something to attract fans in September ...


Or maybe, just maybe mind you, Wright has been cleared to play and wants to play even if his attempt is to the dismay of some of the fans from his own team who seem more interested in rooting for insurance policies.

G-Fafif
Aug 11 2018 04:38 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Keeping Alonso in the minors until next May 1 would be more beneficial for the long-term future than having him accrue service time playing meaningless games this month and next. I support not promoting him.


Peter Alonso should only be good enough that his arbitration and free agent status becomes an issue years down the road. Manipulating young players' progress to limit the club's obligation at the expense of their potential development does not inform an inspirational rallying cry for diehard fans.

The Mets held Ike Davis back in 2010 so he wouldn't be a free agent until after the 2016 season. The Mets held Matt Harvey back in 2012 so he wouldn't be a free agent until after the 2018 season. The foresight was amazing -- and futile. If Alonso is really judged not ready to take swings against major league pitching and get his feet comparably wet at first base in September, that's fine. But as long as rosters still stretch in September, and this guy has driven in more than a hundred runs in the minors, I can't see choosing loopholes over at-bats.

Frayed Knot
Aug 11 2018 06:26 PM
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Yeah, I agree with the part about not just automatically delaying call-up dates for every maybe prospect who comes down the pike.
The Cubs did it with Kris Bryant but he was an uber prospect coming out of a major college program and the #2 slot in the draft, but cases like those are more the exception rather than the rule.

That said, Alsonso is hardly a finished product at this point. Since his promotion to AAA: his BA is down some 70 points and his OPS around 100; his strikeouts are up even with fewer ABs (nearly 1/3 of the time)
and reports on his fielding are basically rotten. Power is up somewhat but, remember Jake, it's Vegas-town.
So let's not act as if his non-call-up this September (if that turns out to be the case) is some sort of example of workplace malfeasance.

Edgy MD
Aug 11 2018 06:34 PM
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And while calling him up or not calling him up in April may be an issue of delaying arbitration, calling him up or not calling him up in September adds the additional wrinkle of burning an option year, which is an issue of development, and not just money.

Frayed Knot
Aug 11 2018 06:43 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
And while calling him up or not calling him up in April may be an issue of delaying arbitration ...


Holding out for April would be for the purpose of delaying FA status (effectively 7 rather than 6).
There's no specific cut-off date for assuring a delay in arbitration eligibility but it's usually considered to be around June 1st.

And who knows whether the rules are even going to be the same if/when Alonso gets to be somewhere between his 3rd thru 7th years of ML service.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 11 2018 06:47 PM
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Because of a delayed promotion, the Mets currently have two more years of control over deGrom instead of one. And right now that extra year has great significance.

Edgy MD
Aug 11 2018 06:54 PM
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Well, his promotion wasn't particularly delayed strategically.

But, HEY! David Wright!

Rockin' Doc
Aug 11 2018 07:00 PM
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I definitely am pulling for Wright to make it back to the Mets. I am very skeptical that he will ever be able be a contributor at the MLB level again. I truly hope that Wright proves me wrong.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 11 2018 08:09 PM
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I'm thinking that with 4 or 5 or 6 guys hanging around who might also be first basemen next year ... including Wright... maybe the play is, trade Alonso before he destroys his own value being overmatched in the bigs. Young first basemen are hard to establish.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 11 2018 08:16 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Well, his promotion wasn't particularly delayed strategically.

But, HEY! David Wright!


I know. But the result is the same.

MFS62
Aug 12 2018 06:23 AM
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Rockin' Doc wrote:
I definitely am pulling for Wright to make it back to the Mets. I am very skeptical that he will ever be able be a contributor at the MLB level again. I truly hope that Wright proves me wrong.

Exactly. His fans should not have memories of a once-great at the end of career etched into their memories like we had with Willie Mays.
He should retire gracefully.
Maybe not an endless Jeter fan fellatiation but maybe just a loving hug and kiss on the cheek; a Lou Gehrig moment.

Later

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2018 07:48 AM
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I have a different idea of grace than yours. I saw nothing graceless in Willie Mays' retirement.

MFS62
Aug 12 2018 08:56 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I have a different idea of grace than yours. I saw nothing graceless in Willie Mays' retirement.

Retire gracefully is an old expression, not meant to be taken literally and not the direct opposite of graceless. I meant it to mean with all honors due him.
In his last year, Willie was a mere shadow of the magnificent player I had seen when he came up in New York. Actually, that player WAS the epitome of grace and his skills had decreased dramatically by the time he played that last year with the Mets. Do you want to see that happen to David?

Later

Ashie62
Aug 12 2018 10:02 AM
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Go David go!

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2018 10:13 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
Do you want to see that happen to David?

Later

I want Wright, Mays, Rickey Henderson, and any other dignified player, to compete as long as they are physically able. There’s grace in going down on the field of honor.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 12 2018 10:20 AM
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MFS62 wrote:

In his last year, Willie was a mere shadow of the magnificent player I had seen when he came up in New York



Isn't pretty much every all star a shadow of what they used to be when they retire? What are you hoping for? That David Wright returns and wins the MVP in his last season?

MFS62
Aug 12 2018 11:20 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
MFS62 wrote:

In his last year, Willie was a mere shadow of the magnificent player I had seen when he came up in New York



Isn't pretty much every all star a shadow of what they used to be when they retire? What are you hoping for? That David Wright returns and wins the MVP in his last season?

No. I want to see him retire, so his fans can remember him at his best.
Later

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2018 11:30 AM
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We can and will, no matter when he retires.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2018 01:41 PM
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MFS62 wrote:
I want to see him retire ...


I want to see him play.

41Forever
Aug 12 2018 01:49 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
MFS62 wrote:
I want to see him retire ...


I want to see him play.



I want to see him play. And I want to see him go out on his own terms, when he decides that time has come.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2018 01:58 PM
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Look, a lot of players DON'T get to decide when they go out and Wright may very well turn out to be one of those.
Simply because he may be able to prove that he's capable of playing doesn't mean he's going to be good enough going forward to hold down a job.

I just don't get the attitude of NYM fans who, in some cases for years now, have been demanding that he quit trying.

bmfc1
Aug 12 2018 02:05 PM
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David can take as long as he wants to make this decision.

d'Kong76
Aug 12 2018 02:37 PM
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Wright went 0-3 with 2 K's and a L-7. Social mania abuzz to DFA him.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2018 05:14 PM
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No ground balls hit to him at 3rd so no updates on his throwing.
He did catch one pop-up though so, y'know, there's that.

G-Fafif
Aug 12 2018 05:21 PM
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I wonder if they made David ride the bus from St. Lucie to Clearwater, which itself would be a test of his back.

He said he was "all smiles" while clearly stonefaced.

Vic Sage
Aug 13 2018 08:07 AM
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David should play until they rip the uniform off his back. Every player should, if that's what they want. Go out on your shield, Dave. "Graceful" retiring is bullshit made up by players who just don't want to play through their decline (which is certainly their choice) and fans who don't want to see a once-great player fail to be what he once was, but that's about us, not them. The notion that it'll change his place in the history of the game is nonsense. I don't think less of Wilie Mays because he fell down chasing a pop fly at Shea when he was 40, and i don't think more of Joe D because he didn't want to do that.

We don't want to be made uncomfortable watching Dave's decline; it reminds us of our mortality. But it's his life; he owes us nothing but his best effort. And that's what he's giving us.

Does this mean i think he's going to succeed? No, but i'd love for him to prove me wrong.

You go, Davey! Keep swingin' til they pry the bat from your cold dead hands.

smg58
Aug 13 2018 08:19 AM
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The worst-case scenario is nothing. The best case scenario is that we add a good player who is already paid for. So what if the worst-case scenario is much more likely? We've already been dealing with it for the past two years.

Centerfield
Aug 13 2018 08:48 AM
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I guess in real life, family considerations and stuff like that come into play. But in my imaginary world where I am talented enough to play MLB and have no family, no way I quit early.

I play out every last day of my contract. Then I catch on with any club that will have me until the phone stops ringing. And then I catch on with the Newark Bears or Long Island Ducks until some team decides they need my bat down the stretch. I make training videos of my swing, offer testimonials from other players talking about how much I still have in the tank. I post shirtless videos of me wielding a hammer and flipping over tractor tires. I play semi-pro ball, then fast pitch softball, then eventually beer league softball where I sit around telling the guys what it's like in the show.

I'd room with Ichiro when we are on the road.

When I'm inducted into the Hall of Fame, I borrow a page from Rickey Henderson and use that as a platform to remind everyone that I am still available.

Ceetar
Aug 13 2018 08:53 AM
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If you play for pennies, there's no end of tiny independent ball leagues you could play for just from the "draw of a former major leaguer" standpoint.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 13 2018 08:55 AM
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I admire the tenacity that David is showing as he tries to come back with the odds so stacked against him. I'm really glad he got to play in a World Series, and it would be great if he could make more than a token appearance in the big leagues at some point in the future.

The most awkward and painful situation will be if he gets healthy but is just plain awful. I'm not sure what would happen then, but that's a concern for some other day, if it ever comes to pass.

Edgy MD
Aug 13 2018 09:07 AM
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If he's just plain awful, I'm sure he'll have an increasingly diminished role until enough is enough. It happens plenty.

Play on, David Wright.

Centerfield
Aug 13 2018 09:09 AM
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For it to be an issue, David would have to be able to play regularly, and the Mets would have to be good enough for it to matter. Certainly both things are possible, but neither of them are particularly likely.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 13 2018 09:48 AM
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The Mets should extend Reyes and Wright through 2025. And then bring back Delgado. /rolls eyes.

Lefty Specialist
Aug 13 2018 09:49 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
If he's just plain awful, I'm sure he'll have an increasingly diminished role until enough is enough. It happens plenty.

Not to Jose Reyes.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 13 2018 09:52 AM
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I think Tom Seaver needs to come back and pitch a few frames for the Mets on his own terms. This way, the fans can know how great Seaver was 45 years ago. There's a whole legacy at risk here, otherwise.

Edgy MD
Aug 13 2018 11:31 AM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
If he's just plain awful, I'm sure he'll have an increasingly diminished role until enough is enough. It happens plenty.

Not to Jose Reyes.

Well, Reyes has started once since August 5.

Vic Sage
Aug 13 2018 12:37 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
I think Tom Seaver needs to come back and pitch a few frames for the Mets on his own terms. This way, the fans can know how great Seaver was 45 years ago. There's a whole legacy at risk here, otherwise.


yeah, because that's the same thing.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 14 2018 09:49 AM
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Vic Sage wrote:
I think Tom Seaver needs to come back and pitch a few frames for the Mets on his own terms. This way, the fans can know how great Seaver was 45 years ago. There's a whole legacy at risk here, otherwise.


yeah, because that's the same thing.


If we're talking about Wright, I think it is the same thing, at least in this respect: I don't think Wright needs to come back for fans to understand what kind of a player Wright was in his prime.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 14 2018 09:52 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
I don't think Wright needs to come back for fans to understand what kind of a player Wright was in his prime.


Is anyone saying that?

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 14 2018 11:29 AM
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How'd he do last night? Anyone see any vids or reports of hist 2nd game?

Ceetar
Aug 14 2018 11:40 AM
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A Boy Named Seo wrote:
How'd he do last night? Anyone see any vids or reports of hist 2nd game?


he walked.

Edgy MD
Aug 14 2018 11:41 AM
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He went 0-2 with a walk in Game Two.

I'm sure as heck rooting for him. Did you here the crowds exploding on Tiger Woods' approach shots this weekend? Or check out Jonny Venters, coming back after 5 1/2 years and 3 1/2 Tommy John surgeries?

Comebacks are great human drama and great expressions of the human spirit. Why would I want to deny David Wright an opportunity?

Ceetar
Aug 14 2018 11:43 AM
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CJ Alexander Jr. grounds into a force out, fielded by third baseman David Wright. Drew Waters out at 3rd. Riley Delgado to 2nd. CJ Alexander Jr. to 1st.
David Wright called out on strikes.
Garrison Schwartz pops out to third baseman David Wright.
David Wright walks.
Michael Paez grounds into a double play, shortstop Riley Delgado to second baseman Marcus Mooney to first baseman Kurt Hoekstra. David Wright out at 2nd.
Defensive Substitution: Blake Tiberi replaces third baseman David Wright, batting 2nd, playing second base.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 14 2018 11:46 AM
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So his only play in the field involved him fielding a grounder and stepping on third base? No throws across the diamond yet?

I mean, I'm sure he's already confirmed that he can throw the ball from third base to first, but it will be nice to have him do it in game action.

Ceetar
Aug 14 2018 11:47 AM
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Unconfirmed. Throw might've just been late.

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 14 2018 11:56 AM
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He did make a throw. Off-balance and moving away from first, but didn't look like it had a ton of mustard on it. Glad to see him moving around pretty decently, though. Go, Dave, go.

[tweet:2hl5vmfx]https://twitter.com/SNYtv/status/1029158840103710721[/tweet:2hl5vmfx]

Edgy MD
Aug 14 2018 12:03 PM
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Nice to see he still compulsively wipes his nose on his uniform. That gave me the feels.

Ceetar
Aug 14 2018 12:08 PM
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A Boy Named Seo wrote:
He did make a throw. Off-balance and moving away from first, but didn't look like it had a ton of mustard on it. Glad to see him moving around pretty decently, though. Go, Dave, go.


My arm was throbbing from sneezing this morning, so props to him.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 28 2018 11:50 AM
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Mike Puma wrote:
David Wright’s latest comeback attempt appears closer to fruition, with the Mets third baseman set to join Triple-A Las Vegas on Tuesday, according to sources.

Ceetar
Aug 28 2018 01:52 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Mike Puma wrote:
David Wright’s latest comeback attempt appears closer to fruition, with the Mets third baseman set to join Triple-A Las Vegas on Tuesday, according to sources.


Ricco's saying it won't happen. But failed to explain why they're promoting him to PDT while the Mets are on PDT other than "this was the plan".

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 28 2018 02:20 PM
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It looks like Ricco isn't saying that Las Vegas won't happen, but that Queens is unlikely.

Mike Puma again:

David Wright is joining Triple-A Las Vegas, but that could be the end of the line in his latest comeback attempt.

The Mets third baseman has not shown a level of consistency in the “quantity or quality” of his play, assistant general manager John Ricco said Tuesday, and appears unlikely to rejoin the club this season.

“It’s unrealistic to think he would be activated anytime soon, based on what we have seen to this point,” Ricco said on a conference call with reporters. “But we really have been taking it step by step and giving him every opportunity to get back.”

The Mets moved Wright to Las Vegas as part of a prearranged schedule, as the minor league season prepares to conclude in less than a week. Wright’s 20-day minor-league rehab assignment concludes Friday. Wright spent the last two weeks at Single-A St. Lucie, appearing in 10 games.

“To be a major league player takes a lot physically,” Ricco said. “So we tried to put in place a program that he could come back and show us he’s ready to be a major league player and so far he hasn’t reached that, whether it’s in terms of the playing time or playing skill. It’s kind of an all-of-the-above at this point.”

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 28 2018 02:51 PM
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I ain't buyin it. If he's still able to get on a field, he'll make an appearance in the bigs this year. Even if it's game 162.

seawolf17
Aug 28 2018 02:55 PM
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I get it, Ricco. Really, I do. If he plays in a major league game, then you probably don't get the insurance money that your bosses desperately need, *and* you have to clear a spot on the 40 for him.

But fuckin' hell, this is the *one* thing you can do to sell a ticket to see this godawful team next month.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 28 2018 02:57 PM
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I agree. If he can play even a little bit, let him play. He's gotta be at least as good as Mike Glavine.

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2018 03:03 PM
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Nonetheless, considering the 100 things that can go wrong, it behooves him to set expectations real low.

Promise low, and deliver high. That's what my pimp always told me.

bmfc1
Aug 28 2018 03:19 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
I get it, Ricco. Really, I do. If he plays in a major league game, then you probably don't get the insurance money that your bosses desperately need, *and* you have to clear a spot on the 40 for him.

But fuckin' hell, this is the *one* thing you can do to sell a ticket to see this godawful team next month.


Well put. It's not like the bar at the moment for being a New York Met is that high.

Ceetar
Aug 28 2018 03:20 PM
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They'll announce with the lineup at 6:30 pm Friday night that he's playing.

There's no way this is about 2.5 million dollars, that's junk change that they've already shaved from the budget this year.

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2018 03:49 PM
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I dunno, folks. We bitch when we feel like the Mets are doing things for perceived PR or ticket sales reasons, so count me out of bitching at them for not.
If he's ready then bring him up but if he's not then I'd rather they don't. And if David's status is the same come next April then I'll think we'll see him pull the plug, parting gifts to follow.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 28 2018 04:03 PM
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I don't think the Mets should promote David for PR reasons, but to give him a well-deserved reward for all of his struggles.

Lefty Specialist
Aug 28 2018 04:42 PM
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I've always had the feeling that the only reason they've kept Jose Reyes around this long is to reunite him with David Wright one last time.

G-Fafif
Aug 28 2018 05:30 PM
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If David says, "I can go," then activate him. If David says, "I can't go," then a bridge must be crossed. I trust his honest judgment on his well-being and ability more than I do those who will sign off on it.

smg58
Aug 28 2018 05:57 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
I've always had the feeling that the only reason they've kept Jose Reyes around this long is to reunite him with David Wright one last time.

While I would counter-argue (to the front office, not you) that Reyes forfeited any claim to sentimental value with his off-field behavior, I can't think of any other reason to keep Reyes around that would plausibly make sense to anybody.

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2018 06:07 PM
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I don't think Wright's and Reyes's situations are in any way connected at this point.

bmfc1
Aug 28 2018 07:20 PM
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All we heard today was that the Mets wanted "to do the right thing" for Jose Bautista. How about doing the "right thing" for possibly your best positional player in history and the minor leaguer who had the best season?

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2018 07:26 PM
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I don't see where putting an unready player who hasn't played in 2-1/2 year into games is doing the right thing.
Wright just played his first full game a couple days ago but then had to sit out two straight games after that because he didn't feel physically up to it.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 28 2018 08:57 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
I don't see where putting an unready player who hasn't played in 2-1/2 year into games is doing the right thing.
Wright just played his first full game a couple days ago but then had to sit out two straight games after that because he didn't feel physically up to it.


I agree totally. It'd be one thing if Wright could improve to the point that he'd deserve a roster spot on merit, but just to get him back in there for a game or two for sentimental reasons, where he has to be pampered and propped up just to make it through a game because he's as delicate as a hothouse flower doesn't interest me in the least.

seawolf17
Aug 29 2018 06:29 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
I don't think Wright's and Reyes's situations are in any way connected at this point.

I don't think so. That's kind of a crazy long game to play for a franchise that doesn't do very well with foresight.

Frayed Knot
Aug 29 2018 06:49 AM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
I don't think Wright's and Reyes's situations are in any way connected at this point.

I don't think so. That's kind of a crazy long game to play for a franchise that doesn't do very well with foresight.


Especially seeing as how this announcement that he won't be getting called up is doing quite the opposite at this point.
So if their only goal here was to generate some sepia-toned photos of those two in a SS/3B embrace, they're certainly doing a rotten job of it.


What they're saying about Wright is that he's not ready now and that there's not enough minor league time left in the season for him to get ready.
And then there's the implication that he may never again be ready but I think the plan, should it come to that, would be some sort of joint announcement (with financial agreements having already been
negotiated and set in writing) where it at least looks like his decision to pull the plug. I mean, shit, even the Yanx & ARod managed that and they were doing everything short of suing each other at the time.

Will an additional off-season of rest and rehab help???? As your Magic Eight Ball might have said (prior to you cracking it and getting that blue shit all over your hands and your mom's carpet) 'Reply Hazy, Try Again'

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 29 2018 01:50 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Back to the merits of being able or not, of being good or not on a baseball diamond. how about David Wright making a difficult defensive play?

[tweet:3s3vp2du]https://twitter.com/SNYtv/status/1034788381811724288[/tweet:3s3vp2du]

Edgy MD
Aug 29 2018 01:53 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

How many pairs of spikes does Ezequiel Carrera need?

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 29 2018 01:58 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Edgy MD wrote:
How many pairs of spikes does Ezequiel Carrera need?


He's still one shelf away from being able to house as many pairs as Wright.

Lefty Specialist
Aug 29 2018 02:25 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I have the solution. Send Reyes to Las Vegas. Win-win.

Nymr83
Aug 29 2018 08:24 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Given the Sept 1st roater increase he could be added just to punch hit with no loss of a spot, but we know that wont happen because of insurance money

Edgy MD
Aug 29 2018 08:42 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

It's been a while since we've seen a good Nymr drunk post.

Centerfield
Aug 30 2018 12:45 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

What is the standard for activating someone from the DL?

If the standard is being physically able to play the game, Wright is there. He may not be an everyday player, but he can physically play baseball.

If the standard is being a ML quality player, then he’s not there. And Reyes and Vargas and a few other Mets should probably not be active.

bmfc1
Aug 30 2018 06:10 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

For those of us with truck for the sentimental (to paraphrase Norm McDonald), this is wonderful news.

He'll be back
Soon you'll see
David Wright
At base number 3

[tweet:5ci2eroo]https://twitter.com/SNYtv/status/1034985044199305216[/tweet:5ci2eroo]

Pete McCarthy said that if David plays this September, they lose the 75% return of his salary from the insurance for September as well as April and May.

seawolf17
Aug 30 2018 06:36 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

bmfc1 wrote:
Pete McCarthy said that if David plays this September, they lose the 75% return of his salary from the insurance for September as well as April and May.

David could hit .800 with 20 home runs in the next week and we still won't see him in the bigs, and this is why.

Lefty Specialist wrote:
I have the solution. Send Reyes to Las Vegas. Win-win.

OMG WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THIS SOONER

Ceetar
Aug 30 2018 09:27 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

seawolf17 wrote:
bmfc1 wrote:
Pete McCarthy said that if David plays this September, they lose the 75% return of his salary from the insurance for September as well as April and May.

David could hit .800 with 20 home runs in the next week and we still won't see him in the bigs, and this is why.

Lefty Specialist wrote:
I have the solution. Send Reyes to Las Vegas. Win-win.

OMG WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THIS SOONER


i need a source on that first one, as it makes no sense and I'm not convinced it's true. I think it means they won't get April and May insurance money until June, not that they won't get it.

Also it's like 2.2 million. for September. That's not it. It's contradictory to say the Mets gave Reyes that much on some sort of belief that the fans love him and want him around and won't do it for Wright.

Also April and May next year is ~ 4 million. 75% of that is 3 million. again, that's junk change to the Wilpons, and the Mets. hell, they're probably getting that much more back this year just on 45's tax garbage.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 30 2018 09:39 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

According to this web page https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/new-york-me ... right-569/ Wright's salary drops from $20 million in 2018 to $15 million in 2019 and then to $12 million in 2020. So his salary for April/May of 2019 would be 25 per cent less than it would be for two months this year.

Edgy MD
Aug 30 2018 11:09 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Yeah, I think it's easy to over-think this. If he's ready to play, he might get a chance to play. As of now, nobody thinks he is.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 30 2018 11:31 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 30 2018 11:37 AM

I just dont get all these posts and all the fuss unless Wright and the Mets think he can not only play a full season, but make positive contributions. All this hoping and waiting so that Wright could take a symbolic at bat for a team that's already eliminated at least spiritually if not mathematically, and the mathematical elimination will come soon enough, guaranteed. Nutso.

I'm not rooting against it and if that's what Wright wants I hope he gets it. But so what?

It's just a big fucking diversion to make fans forget for a while that the team that plays in the nation's largest market has no shot at signing Bryce Harper or Manny Machado.

Ceetar
Aug 30 2018 11:37 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
I just dont get all these posts and all the fuss unless Wright and the Mets think he can not only play a full season, but make positive contributions. All this hoping and waiting so that Wright could take a symbolic at bat for a team that's already eliminated at least spiritually if not mathematically, and the mathematical elimination will come soon enough, guaranteed. Nutso.

I'm not rooting against it and if that's what Wright wants I hope he gets it. But so what?


he's a Mets legend and a derailed hall of famer. He's not going to get 'one AB' he's going to play a few games here and there. That's fun. we like watching him play.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 30 2018 11:42 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

If he can only play a few games, then he's comprised. And if he's gonna be coddled because he's so fragile that the risk of re injury is greater than normal, then he shouldn't be on the field and the whole thing would be bullshit. Same thing if his skills are so diminished that he'd probably put up Reyes like numbers over a large sample size. It's not fun if he can't play at the major league level.

He doesn't have to come back for fans to recognize how great he was and what an impeccable character he's shown throughout his career. Dwight Gooden and Darryl Strawberry also had derailed HOF careers. And Doc's HOF chances once looked much stronger than Wright's.

Ceetar
Aug 30 2018 12:11 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

He's not going to put up Reyes numbers for one. It'll still be fun. He'll still be able to run into one and hit it out. Hell, maybe he can hold on and manage the 11 he needs for the Mets record. That'd be nice.

Yes, but Wright was farther along than Strawberry. Like, without the injury he'd be there now. He had three seasons at least as good as Strawberry's best.

See? You're already underrating him.

41Forever
Aug 30 2018 03:29 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

He's joining the team in San Francisco, but not likely to come off the disabled list until the team returns home, according to several posts.

cooby
Aug 30 2018 05:03 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
I just dont get all these posts and all the fuss unless Wright and the Mets think he can not only play a full season, but make positive contributions. All this hoping and waiting so that Wright could take a symbolic at bat for a team that's already eliminated at least spiritually if not mathematically, and the mathematical elimination will come soon enough, guaranteed. Nutso.

I'm not rooting against it and if that's what Wright wants I hope he gets it. But so what?

It's just a big fucking diversion to make fans forget for a while that the team that plays in the nation's largest market has no shot at signing Bryce Harper or Manny Machado.



I hope we’re wrong( batmags and me) but I don’t see this having a phenomenal ending.

Nymr83
Aug 31 2018 09:28 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Edgy MD wrote:
It's been a while since we've seen a good Nymr drunk post.


Two typos is a drunk post? You have very high standards for the internet my friend!

Edgy MD
Aug 31 2018 09:34 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Punch hitter. Funny!

d'Kong76
Aug 31 2018 09:38 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I like the Rotoworld 'analysis', made me smile..

The 35-year-old third baseman hasn't appeared in a game at the major league level since May 27, 2016 due to neck, shoulder, and back injuries. This isn't a fantasy-relevant story, but it's very cool nonetheless. Aug 30 - 11:30 AM

Gwreck
Aug 31 2018 05:47 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I really thought the Mets were not doing much of anything wrong here: there’s not much sense activating Wright unless he can contribute at the major league level.

But then they go and say stupid stuff like this, and one is left to wonder why this organization simply cannot learn how to stop having PR disasters.

“Mickey Callaway said David Wright has not been cleared medically to play in Major League games. Callaway said there is a different medical threshold required to play in MLB games versus minor league games.”

https://twitter.com/anthonydicomo/statu ... 80352?s=21

Edgy MD
Aug 31 2018 06:16 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Well, it's either true or it's not. I have no idea.

Gwreck
Aug 31 2018 07:22 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I have an idea. It’s rooted in common sense. And that idea is that the statement is not true.

MFS62
Sep 05 2018 08:41 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Gwreck wrote:


“Mickey Callaway said David Wright has not been cleared medically to play in Major League games. Callaway said there is a different medical threshold required to play in MLB games versus minor league games.”

Translation:
"Igor has the machine fixed. Now we're waiting for a lightning storm".

Later

Edgy MD
Sep 05 2018 08:47 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Gwreck wrote:
I have an idea. It’s rooted in common sense. And that idea is that the statement is not true.

I've got plenty of sense. And I can't think of any reason why he'd lie about that. Or why anyone should be angry about the statement.

Ashie62
Sep 08 2018 09:07 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

David had a positive simulated game today.

Daivd said he will play a simulated game Tuesday and..

Next in David's words he will "have a talk with Jeff"

Hoping hard

smg58
Sep 09 2018 05:17 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

[url]https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/david-wright-peter-alonso-and-the-law-of-metropolitan-frugality/

There was excellent article on the subject in Fangraphs the other day.

MFS62
Sep 09 2018 06:39 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

smg58 wrote:
[url]https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/david-wright-peter-alonso-and-the-law-of-metropolitan-frugality/

There was excellent article on the subject in Fangraphs the other day.

The link didn't work.
He went through two simulated innings at the plate against Anthony Swarzak and Tim Peterson and two simulated innings fielding grounders at third base. It will be interesting to see what he can do against good pitchers.

Later

Frayed Knot
Sep 09 2018 08:30 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Wright HR'd in the simulated game, which is fitting since most NYM HRs in CitiField this year were also simulated.

Centerfield
Sep 09 2018 10:15 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I wonder if the spinal stenosis, since it won’t go away, means that Wright can never be “healthy” again. So the Wilpons don’t have to worry about coverage issues.

I saw the footage from yesterday, and he looks as good as I’ve seen in years. I was thinking there must be a few insurance guys watching and getting frustrated that they have to pay out.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 09 2018 10:25 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 09 2018 10:44 AM

.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 09 2018 10:43 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

If the Wilpons aren't rooting for a David Wright comeback, this might be one of the few times I'd agree with them -- at least from a business point of view. Nothing personal, David, it's only business. Wright's owed $15M for 2019 and then another $12M for 2020, the last year of his contract. There's no way he'll be a $15M player next season, I don't think. I doubt Wright would even provide $5M worth of value next season. He's gonna suck. And lack the durability to play regularly. And I don't wanna pay a player $27M player to get what I think I'm gonna get from David Wright going forward. This is a cheapskate team with enormous money issues and a Wright comeback will just hurt the Mets even more. Jeez, they're not even re-investing the insurance policy benefits back into the team and they're gonna commit to Frazier and Bruce, two kinda sucky players on the decline at key offensive positions.

Ask yourselves this question: If David Wright played for another team, but was the exact same player in every respect, historically, currently and health wise, and the Mets could acquire him in a trade -- all the Mets would have to do is trade away a low level minor-leaguer that has no chance of making it to the majors and pick up Wright's salary, would you want the Mets to make that deal?

Or the same hypothetical facts as in the above paragraph where David Wright is on another team but he'd be a free agent after this season? Would you want the Mets to sign him if Wright's price was a two year contract at $15M for 2019 and $12M for 2020?

Would youse be starting "Let's Talk about David Wright" threads?

Ceetar
Sep 10 2018 07:44 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Fans want him to come back at home (because they think they're watching a swan song, and the Mets/Wright aren't looking at it that way) but they kinda should just do that. Even if they just announce that it'll be a PH on Wednesday or like he'll play 3 innings.

Then he can DH in Boston, which is roughly the same as a simulated game but you gotta run a little if you hit it.

Valadius
Sep 12 2018 04:14 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

There's going to be an announcement tomorrow about Wright's status for the rest of the season.

Frayed Knot
Sep 12 2018 09:09 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Dan Martin, NYPost: David Wright and Mets COO Jeff Wilpon met regarding a plan for the third baseman’s future and according to a source, the two sides are expected to have a press conference Thursday.
And signs are pointing to them announcing he will return this season
.



There's no indication of what those "signs" are.

Gwreck
Sep 12 2018 11:36 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I think it’s fair to say a press conference is more likely to be held if news was positive (a return to the active roster) than if it was that he won’t be playing in the majors this year.

smg58
Sep 13 2018 04:02 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

He's had issues with his shoulder holding up for nine innings, and he wasn't allowed to dive for anything in his rehab games. So he's still fairly limited. Having said that, my guess is that the organization would like to see him play a game, presumably with Reyes at short, at home before the season wraps up. And then we'll see where he is in February.

Ceetar
Sep 13 2018 07:36 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

smg58 wrote:
He's had issues with his shoulder holding up for nine innings, and he wasn't allowed to dive for anything in his rehab games. So he's still fairly limited. Having said that, my guess is that the organization would like to see him play a game, presumably with Reyes at short, at home before the season wraps up. And then we'll see where he is in February.



It seems like 90% of the coverage of this is anger at the Mets, but having to dive is pretty important..

unless you're a DH. Coming this weekend.

d'Kong76
Sep 13 2018 09:50 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

DiComo on MLB/Mets sez Señor Wright will play in two games in the final
home stand. News conference is at 1:45 PM.

Ceetar
Sep 13 2018 09:53 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

d'Kong76 wrote:
DiComo on MLB/Mets sez Señor Wright will play in two games in the final
home stand. News conference is at 1:45 PM.



welp, cancel the news conference then.

Ashie62
Sep 13 2018 11:47 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Highlight moment of the season for many

bmfc1
Sep 13 2018 11:57 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 13 2018 12:03 PM

Good for The Captain. I suspect that this will be it but at least he's proven to himself that he made it back, even for one game, and he can go out as an active player.

d'Kong76
Sep 13 2018 11:58 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I'm such a mush, got a cantaloupe in my throat...

seawolf17
Sep 13 2018 11:59 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

May or may not be crying in my office.

May or may not have just bought a single ticket to the 9/30 game, just in case I decide to make the trip down.

Valadius
Sep 13 2018 12:04 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Retire. His. Number.

Ashie62
Sep 13 2018 12:08 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

David is retiring after the 2 games. I didn't see that coming

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 13 2018 12:14 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I think retiring a player's number should be an extremely rare thing, and I typically oppose most such suggestions. But not this one.

bmfc1
Sep 13 2018 12:16 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

They aren't saying "retirement" they said "medically unable to play". This must mean something with the insurance money paying some of the remainder of his contract. And aren't the Wilpons finances really the biggest issue?

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 13 2018 12:16 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

The New York Post wrote:
Wright said his body’s reaction to minor league and rehab games leading up to this return were what led him finally to make the decision to retire for good.

Asked if he’s retiring, he said: “Physically, the way I feel right now, and from what the docs told me, there’s not going to be any improvement. So I don’t see [playing full time again] as a possibility.”

bmfc1
Sep 13 2018 12:16 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I think retiring a player's number should be an extremely rare thing, and I typically oppose most such suggestions. But not this one.
And a statue! Next to the Seaver statue.

seawolf17
Sep 13 2018 12:17 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

bmfc1 wrote:
They aren't saying "retirement" they said "medically unable to play". This must mean something with the insurance money paying some of the remainder of his contract. And aren't the Wilpons finances really the biggest issue?

I'd bet. They probably have to be careful about the wording.

But he made it pretty clear that he's done.

bmfc1
Sep 13 2018 12:20 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

seawolf17 wrote:
bmfc1 wrote:
They aren't saying "retirement" they said "medically unable to play". This must mean something with the insurance money paying some of the remainder of his contract. And aren't the Wilpons finances really the biggest issue?

I'd bet. They probably have to be careful about the wording.

But he made it pretty clear that he's done.
Sadly, yes.

Centerfield
Sep 13 2018 12:29 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I hope that hanging them up was his decision and no one else's.

G-Fafif
Sep 13 2018 12:39 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I just wanna put this uniform on again.

A Boy Named Seo
Sep 13 2018 12:51 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Centerfield wrote:
I hope that hanging them up was his decision and no one else's.


Who knows for sure, but David is nothing if not earnest, and him choking up, talking about how hard it was the day after playing 5 innings seemed it was his call. Wolfie, I was getting a little misty-eyed, too. I didn't think I'd see him step on Citi Field again, so I'm glad he's going to get a quick victory lap. For him and for a bunch of us.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 13 2018 12:57 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Are they actually waiting for the last day of the season? What if it rains?

seawolf17
Sep 13 2018 12:58 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Are they actually waiting for the last day of the season? What if it rains?

The next-to-last day, actually. Hopefully he gets a little more than that, but we'll see.

Ceetar
Sep 13 2018 12:59 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Are they actually waiting for the last day of the season? What if it rains?


Saturday, and there's a game Sunday. they'll find time to get one in.

d'Kong76
Sep 13 2018 12:59 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Centerfield wrote:
I hope that hanging them up was his decision and no one else's.

I'm not getting any whiff of any fishy vibe here at all. It's time, nice to
see he'll get a send-off on the field instead of off. Good for him.

Next time he hits the field, next summer, when the number goes up.

Ceetar
Sep 13 2018 01:02 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

d'Kong76 wrote:
Centerfield wrote:
I hope that hanging them up was his decision and no one else's.

I'm not getting any whiff of any fishy vibe here at all. It's time, nice to
see he'll get a send-off on the field instead of off. Good for him.

Next time he hits the field, next summer, when the number goes up.


It'll probably be this time next year. They seem to like to do these things at the end of the year (Piazza too) and then Wright can officially announce his retirement for the end of the season and all. But I guess it's up to Jay and David.

Would kind of be cool for him to come up here for the end of the season and be in the dugout for one last playoff run maybe, even if he's just on the 40 man and not the 25?

Edgy MD
Sep 13 2018 01:18 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

They maybe can't put the number up until the contract is up.

But what a great Mets career. What a shitty way to end.

I hate scapegoating. But I have trouble keeping Barwis out of all this.

Ceetar
Sep 13 2018 01:19 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

well, David blames Carlos Lee. Genetics is culpable too.

seawolf17
Sep 13 2018 01:20 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Ceetar wrote:
well, David blames Carlos Lee. Genetics is culpable too.

Carlos Lee is David's dad? The things you learn.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 13 2018 01:28 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I blame Jaerock Lee.

In case you forgot

Frayed Knot
Sep 13 2018 01:54 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

seawolf17 wrote:
bmfc1 wrote:
They aren't saying "retirement" they said "medically unable to play". This must mean something with the insurance money paying some of the remainder of his contract. And aren't the Wilpons finances really the biggest issue?

I'd bet. They probably have to be careful about the wording.


I'm pretty sure that the insurance company isn't going to pay of the remainder of the policy based solely on the wording of a NYM press release.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 13 2018 01:59 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

True, but they probably want their wording to match whatever paperwork may exist.

If David retires, he won't get paid the $27 million he'd earn for 2019 and 2020.

If he stays on the 60-day disabled list for the next two years, he'll get paid and the Mets will get reimbursed all (or some?) of his salary from the insurance. And the Mets would have one additional player at risk for a Rule-5 after this season and next.

Edgy MD
Sep 13 2018 02:03 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

He probably moves to the mysterious and baleful Physically-Unable-To-Perform List.

Gwreck
Sep 13 2018 02:36 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Of course they will induct him into the Mets HOF and retire his number.

I expect these events, as well as the last start on the 29th will all be done at separate times, of course.

MFS62
Sep 13 2018 06:01 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I was away and just got home.
Did he actually say he would retire, or are his plans beyond Sept 29 still unclear/ not specified at this point?

Later

Edgy MD
Sep 13 2018 06:30 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

He pointedly avoided the word, while acknowledging that his full expectation is to never play again.

41Forever
Sep 13 2018 07:27 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Gwreck wrote:
Of course they will induct him into the Mets HOF and retire his number.

I expect these events, as well as the last start on the 29th will all be done at separate times, of course.


Big time. Will be sometime next season so they have time to prepare and build a day or weekend around it.

d'Kong76
Sep 13 2018 07:32 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I think he meant (and correctly, if so) that they'll milk the gate
as much as possible.

bmfc1
Sep 13 2018 07:32 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

From The Athletic:

Wright is not technically retiring after his final game; instead, he will be listed as medically unable to play. That distinction will allow the third baseman to collect the $27 million remaining on his contract and the Mets to still receive insurance money on the deal, provided Wright remains on the team’s 40-man roster. (The club could ultimately reach an agreement with the insurer that would allow them to release Wright and free up that roster spot. The Rangers did the same with Prince Fielder.)


https://theathletic.com/523379/2018/09/ ... mets-game/

Rockin' Doc
Sep 14 2018 06:06 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I'm glad that Wright will get a final chance to play the game he obviously loves and the fans will get an opportunity to show him their appreciation for the many years he represented the Mets with distinction and class.

Ashie62
Sep 14 2018 09:57 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Rockin' Doc wrote:
I'm glad that Wright will get a final chance to play the game he obviously loves and the fans will get an opportunity to show him their appreciation for the many years he represented the Mets with distinction and class.


Same here

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 14 2018 10:19 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

It's not the outcome Wright was hoping for, but he handled it with the customary grace and class that we've come to expect from him. This guy's been a true class act all the way through.

It's the outcome the Wilpons were surely hoping for, though, because if Wright continued to insist on a full blown comeback and played this at arms length-- if Wright was reactivated, the Wilpons, depending on how that played out, could risk losing control of the situation and whatever insurance benefits they'd otherwise receive. They could potentially be on the hook for all of Wright's remaining salary and nobody in their right mind would want to pay $27M for the next two years of Wright's baseball future, especially eff and Jeff.

Ceetar
Sep 14 2018 11:48 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

he physically can't play. There was no risk of that.

Vic Sage
Sep 14 2018 12:00 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

i hope #5 is the next number they retire, and they do it next year. I know this team is parsimonious about such honors but i can't imagine a better candidate. Our best position player ever, played his entire career here, was team captain and face of the organization. No, he won't get into MLB's HOF (nor should he, any more than Mattingly should, who had a similar career), but that can't continue to be the only criteria for number retirement.

Fman99
Sep 14 2018 12:01 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I'll be away from home, that night, and not able to watch, as I'll be in a hotel in Bath, NY, and I can't imagine that the hotel will have WPIX which is airing the 9/29 game. I guess I'll just have to catch the audio broadcast instead.

Fman99
Sep 14 2018 12:11 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Vic Sage wrote:
i hope #5 is the next number they retire, and they do it next year. I know this team is parsimonious about such honors but i can't imagine a better candidate. Our best position player ever, played his entire career here, was team captain and face of the organization. No, he won't get into MLB's HOF (nor should he, any more than Mattingly should, who had a similar career), but that can't continue to be the only criteria for number retirement.


More likely it'll end up in the "unofficially" retired bin where #8 lives, not retired but also not issued. Which is a shame.

Centerfield
Sep 14 2018 12:16 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Struggling with this more than I expected I would. I mean, it's no surprise at all to hear that David Wright is done. We've all known it was coming.

But I found I was in no mood to watch the press conference, or to see the video tributes or anything. Life is just unfair. And I know that any one of us here would love to have the "unfair" deck of cards David was dealt, but he was and is legitimately one of the best guys in the game. No one deserved to play until age 50 more than him.

A dickhead like Clemens gets to play until forever, but our terrific guy has his career cut short. Fuck these baseball gods.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 14 2018 12:36 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I'm between there and being thankful that given his bad luck he's not quitting because he's been secretly battling a fatal disease

Vic Sage
Sep 14 2018 01:01 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Fman99 wrote:
Vic Sage wrote:
i hope #5 is the next number they retire, and they do it next year. I know this team is parsimonious about such honors but i can't imagine a better candidate. Our best position player ever, played his entire career here, was team captain and face of the organization. No, he won't get into MLB's HOF (nor should he, any more than Mattingly should, who had a similar career), but that can't continue to be the only criteria for number retirement.


More likely it'll end up in the "unofficially" retired bin where #8 lives, not retired but also not issued. Which is a shame.


It would indeed be a shame because Carter was here for only 4.3 of his 19 career seasons, comprising 1 great year and 1 good one, and 2.3 shitty ones. He was a career Expo who contributed to a Mets WS team one year. This is hardly comparable to Wright. And if they treat him similarly, that would be inexcusable.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 14 2018 01:03 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Unfair? Wright's one of about 1,000 people that got to play MLB every year, this out of a US population of over 320 million. When his contract is fully paid out, he'll have made over $200M from baseball. And he's not even 36 years old. He'll go down as the greatest position player in Mets history. Unfair? Talk to Bobby Valentine, a can't miss superstar phenom who destroyed his leg early in his career and was essentially a mediocre scrub the rest of the way. If Wright had the same career but was born 25 years earlier, all of his baseball money would be long gone by now and he'd have to work. To make a microscopic fraction of the money he's going to retire with. Talk to Johnny Bench and Mike Schmidt about that, players way better than David Wright. Unfair? David Wright wouldn't trade places with any one of us.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 14 2018 01:04 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Vic Sage wrote:
It would indeed be a shame because Carter was here for only 4.3 of his 19 career seasons, comprising 1 great year and 1 good one, and 2.3 shitty ones. He was a career Expo who contributed to a Mets WS team one year. This is hardly comparable to Wright. And if they treat him similarly, that would be inexcusable.


I agree. I'm just about never in favor of retiring a number (and that includes Gary Carter's 8, which should be put back into circulation) but I'm totally on board with David Wright's 5.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 14 2018 01:06 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I agree. I'm just about never in favor of retiring a number (and that includes Gary Carter's 8, which should be put back into circulation) but I'm totally on board with David Wright's 5.


Me too. And don't get me started on the idea of the Mets retiring Gary Carter's number. It's the absolute dumbest idea out there about the Mets and retiring numbers. And it's persistent, too.

Vic Sage
Sep 14 2018 01:07 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Unfair? Wright's one of about 1,000 people that got to play MLB every year, this out of a US population of over 320 million. When his contract is fully paid out, he'll have made over $200M from baseball. And he's not even 36 years old. He'll go down as the greatest position player in Mets history. Unfair? Talk to Bobby Valentine, a can't miss superstar phenom who destroyed his leg early in his career and was essentially a mediocre scrub the rest of the way. If Wright had the same career but was born 25 years earlier, all of his baseball money would be long gone by now and he'd have to work. To make a microscopic fraction of the money he's going to retire with. Talk to Johnny Bench and Mike Schmidt about that, players way better than David Wright. Unfair? David Wright wouldn't trade places with any one of us.


It isn't unfair to him, it's unfair to us. He was on his way to a HOF career if injuries didn't start debilitating him after he turned 30. How much we would have loved seeing a Met position player play his whole career here and then go to Cooperstown? WE're still waiting for that.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 14 2018 01:11 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Vic Sage wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Unfair? Wright's one of about 1,000 people that got to play MLB every year, this out of a US population of over 320 million. When his contract is fully paid out, he'll have made over $200M from baseball. And he's not even 36 years old. He'll go down as the greatest position player in Mets history. Unfair? Talk to Bobby Valentine, a can't miss superstar phenom who destroyed his leg early in his career and was essentially a mediocre scrub the rest of the way. If Wright had the same career but was born 25 years earlier, all of his baseball money would be long gone by now and he'd have to work. To make a microscopic fraction of the money he's going to retire with. Talk to Johnny Bench and Mike Schmidt about that, players way better than David Wright. Unfair? David Wright wouldn't trade places with any one of us.


It isn't unfair to him, it's unfair to us. He was on his way to a HOF career if injuries didn't start debilitating him after he turned 30. How much we would have loved seeing a Met position player play his whole career here and then go to Cooperstown? WE're still waiting for that.


It's still not unfair. That's all built-in. No one has a right or an expectation to make the HOF. The odds are extremely miniscule for everybody and the road is paved with all kinds of pitfalls and obstacles, injuries being the main one and the most common. I could type you a list of derailed HOF'ers but my wrist would start to hurt before I'm even close to finishing it.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 14 2018 02:04 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I'd retire his number next year and have a nice ceremony for him. Lord knows he deserves it.

41Forever
Sep 14 2018 03:11 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Centerfield wrote:

A dickhead like Clemens gets to play until forever, but our terrific guy has his career cut short. Fuck these baseball gods.


Clemens' longevity was suspect, of course.

I'm assuming the Mets Hall of Fame is a matter of scheduling as opposed to worthiness.

I think they should retire No. 5. It does set a different precedent. The only other players are Seaver and Piazza, both Baseball Hall of Famers. But Wright is certainly worthy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 14 2018 03:15 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Wright's a complete slam dunk for number retirement, perhaps moreso than Seav or Piazza in the sense that he was never property of any other club that those assholes were

Rockin' Doc
Sep 14 2018 05:21 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

David Wright was the best player and the face of the franchise for over a decade. He represented the Mets with class both on the field and off. He has spent his entire career with the Mes. He is arguably the greatest position player in Mets history. He is, without a doubt, deserving of both honors for all he has done (and I expect he will continue to do in the future) for the organization.

d'Kong76
Sep 14 2018 06:30 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

As I've done for so many years, I got a single ticket for that last Sunday game.
If David holds up that weekend and maybe can pinch hit or play a few innings,
it will be an honor to witness that in person. #lgm #ygb #tkti

Frayed Knot
Sep 14 2018 06:39 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Small note in one of the tabs today about David possibly PH-ing a few times prior to that game - no reason why he couldn't/shouldn't really.
The game noted in the presser sounds like that's been tabbed as the only game in which he's going to be in the starting lineup.

d'Kong76
Sep 14 2018 06:42 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Yeah, the Saturday night game. Fireworks, big crowd.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 14 2018 07:08 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Frayed Knot wrote:
Small note in one of the tabs today about David possibly PH-ing a few times prior to that game - no reason why he couldn't/shouldn't really.
The game noted in the presser sounds like that's been tabbed as the only game in which he's going to be in the starting lineup.


Tuesday Night Mets Club will be chanting in the 1st inning 9/25

Gwreck
Sep 15 2018 08:16 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I am certain they will try to PH him as much as possible in the Braves series but I am worried it won’t be all 3 games. Sadly, I am out of town for the Saturday game but trying to calculate the best odds of seeing David in one of the other games.

MFS62
Sep 18 2018 05:52 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Callaway announced that he will start Reyes at shortstop, alongside Wright, on Sept 29th.
Memo to Terry.: Don't start a "ground ball" pitcher that day.

Later

Ceetar
Sep 18 2018 07:33 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

MFS62 wrote:
Callaway announced that he will start Reyes at shortstop, alongside Wright, on Sept 29th.
Memo to Terry.: Don't start a "ground ball" pitcher that day.

Later



boo.

seawolf17
Sep 18 2018 07:34 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

MFS62 wrote:
Callaway announced that he will start Reyes at shortstop, alongside Wright, on Sept 29th.
Memo to Terry.: Don't start a "ground ball" pitcher that day.

Later

You know Mattingly is going to have everyone bunting to the left side on every pitch.

Centerfield
Sep 18 2018 07:50 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I know everyone is down on Reyes, but I'm excited about these two lining up together again. The best shortstop in Mets history and the best third baseman in Mets history. It's fitting they bow out together.

2018 may have been a crap year, but it's also one where we saw four members of the Mets All-Time team play in one season.

1B Hernandez
2B Alfonso
SS Reyes
3B Wright
C Piazza
RF Strawberry
CF Beltran
LF McReynolds

SP Seaver
SP Gooden
SP deGrom
SP Koosman
SP Cone

RHRP Familia
LHRP Franco

Maybe Syndergaard and Conforto crack this team before all is said and done.

Edgy MD
Sep 18 2018 07:58 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

seawolf17 wrote:
Callaway announced that he will start Reyes at shortstop, alongside Wright, on Sept 29th.
Memo to Terry.: Don't start a "ground ball" pitcher that day.

Later

You know Mattingly is going to have everyone bunting to the left side on every pitch.

Won't happen. Though I'd be delighted if it did.

seawolf17
Sep 18 2018 08:34 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Centerfield wrote:
2018 may have been a crap year, but it's also one where we saw four members of the Mets All-Time team play in one season.

RHRP Familia


wait what

seawolf17
Sep 18 2018 08:36 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

seawolf17 wrote:
Centerfield wrote:
2018 may have been a crap year, but it's also one where we saw four members of the Mets All-Time team play in one season.

RHRP Familia


Actually, upon further review, you might be right.

seawolf17
Sep 18 2018 08:43 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback













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Armando Benitez---519992003118142.7033302660016034722511110439168134561420159
Skip Lockwood---519751979024362.8022701640065379.228812311827135353681529126
Bob ApodacaSCF519731977016252.86184111081026361.131213811522131411971505123
Ron Taylor---519671971021213.04269018400503613211271222492451971460115
Jeff InnisSCF719871993010203.05288112600536033714112222121271921507120
Danny FrisellaS--619671972024263.081581692002435331714112130137262961495113
Doug SiskS--619821987017163.1026301280033412.139618014211210251631802117
Terry LeachS--71981198902493.111761852337387.237215213427104181941608115
Roger McDowellS--519851989033293.1328021890084468.142418416322154272281958112
Turk Wendell---519972001022143.342850650010312.225912511633147312591328130
Neil AllenS--519791983025403.5422391601169381.237316615026179402851649102

Ceetar
Sep 18 2018 08:44 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Looks like Benitez to me.

Vic Sage
Sep 18 2018 10:23 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

1B Hernandez
2B Alfonso
SS Reyes
3B Wright
C Piazza
RF Strawberry
CF Beltran
LF [crossout]McReynolds[/crossout] Jones

SP Seaver
SP Gooden
SP deGrom
SP Koosman
SP Cone

RHRP [crossout]Familia[/crossout] Benitez
LHRP Franco


There, CF, i fixed it for you.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 18 2018 11:29 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Unfair? Wright's one of about 1,000 people that got to play MLB every year, this out of a US population of over 320 million. When his contract is fully paid out, he'll have made over $200M from baseball. And he's not even 36 years old. He'll go down as the greatest position player in Mets history. Unfair? Talk to Bobby Valentine, a can't miss superstar phenom who destroyed his leg early in his career and was essentially a mediocre scrub the rest of the way. If Wright had the same career but was born 25 years earlier, all of his baseball money would be long gone by now and he'd have to work. To make a microscopic fraction of the money he's going to retire with. Talk to Johnny Bench and Mike Schmidt about that, players way better than David Wright. Unfair? David Wright wouldn't trade places with any one of us.


It isn't unfair to him, it's unfair to us. He was on his way to a HOF career if injuries didn't start debilitating him after he turned 30. How much we would have loved seeing a Met position player play his whole career here and then go to Cooperstown? WE're still waiting for that.


It's still not unfair. That's all built-in. No one has a right or an expectation to make the HOF. The odds are extremely miniscule for everybody and the road is paved with all kinds of pitfalls and obstacles, injuries being the main one and the most common. I could type you a list of derailed HOF'ers but my wrist would start to hurt before I'm even close to finishing it.


Hey Vic: I was re-reading this exchange. I'm more in agreement with you than you probably think I am. I just think "unfair" is the wrong word. If anything, I think Wright's closer to being the luckiest man on the face of the earth than anything else.

Here's a link to the top 10 moments of Wright's career, according to MLB.com, with accompanying videos.



https://www.mlb.com/news/top-10-moments ... -294906814

Ceetar
Sep 18 2018 11:42 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

But it's like how we call Jose Reyes a terrible baseball player when he's still in the 1% of the 1%..

Centerfield
Sep 18 2018 01:06 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Vic Sage wrote:
1B Hernandez
2B Alfonso
SS Reyes
3B Wright
C Piazza
RF Strawberry
CF Beltran
LF [crossout]McReynolds[/crossout] Jones

SP Seaver
SP Gooden
SP deGrom
SP Koosman
SP Cone

RHRP [crossout]Familia[/crossout] Benitez
LHRP Franco


There, CF, i fixed it for you.


Yeah. I think you can go either way with both choices.

Cleon played longer, has the edge in WAR, but McReynolds put up better yearly numbers. For me, the 46 point difference in OPS swung me to McReynolds. WS ring notwithstanding.

For the RH closer, kinda went with feelings on this. Benitez maybe has a slight edge with the numbers, but if I had a 1 run lead, and both were warm, I'm calling Familia.

Unless it's Game 1 of the World Series, then both of them can sit down.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 18 2018 01:29 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Remember in 2012, when the Mets issued season tickets that featured a different Met for every single game? Those tickets were in celebration of the Mets 50th anniversary season.

[fimg=633:25arz46t]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-e0AAOSwV0RXrnVq/s-l1600.jpg[/fimg:25arz46t]

Anyways, among the 81 Mets featured on those tickets was reliever Turk Wendell. Armando didn't get a ticket. From now on, maybe I'm gonna call him Armando Dangerfield.

d'Kong76
Sep 18 2018 01:58 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

If anyone is collecting a set of those tickets, I'd be happy to
contribute to the completionist cause.

I have:

Wright 1
Darling 1
Agee 1
Knight 1
Viola 2
Franco 2
Jackson 2
Harrelson 2

Vic Sage
Sep 18 2018 02:51 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

WS ring notwithstanding.


a world series ring withstands everything.
And K-Mac can suck my dick.

seawolf17
Sep 19 2018 09:09 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I'm the biggest McReynolds fan here, and I can objectively say that Cleon is above him on the all-time LF list. Maybe not far above, but above.

Gwreck
Sep 19 2018 09:22 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Centerfield wrote:
SP Seaver
SP Gooden
SP deGrom
SP Koosman
SP Cone


Al Leiter over Cone. And it's not particularly close.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 30 2018 01:59 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Every David Wright Topps Base Set Card

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Every David Wright Topps Heritage Base Set Card

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 02 2018 12:10 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Odds and Sods -- 2004-2009

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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 02 2018 01:13 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

So, I was convinced given the way they made sure to orchestrate the final DW appearance that he was *supposed to have* hit a long home run and not pop out in that last turn.

I'm kinda glad that didn't happen.

Ceetar
Oct 02 2018 01:17 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
So, I was convinced given the way they made sure to orchestrate the final DW appearance that he was *supposed to have* hit a long home run and not pop out in that last turn.

I'm kinda glad that didn't happen.


I kinda wish they'd Pinch Hit him every day that week so he had some semblance of timing for his last game.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 02 2018 02:30 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Well maybe. But was it a grooved fb he just missed? I wouldn't know enough to recognize myself.

seawolf17
Oct 02 2018 02:31 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Well maybe. But was it a grooved fb he just missed? I wouldn't know enough to recognize myself.

I thought it was weird that he reached for the first pitch he saw. Gotta take one, there, DW.

Ceetar
Oct 02 2018 03:01 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

seawolf17 wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Well maybe. But was it a grooved fb he just missed? I wouldn't know enough to recognize myself.

I thought it was weird that he reached for the first pitch he saw. Gotta take one, there, DW.


That pitch appears to be a middle-down 97 mph fastball. Looks like he historically hits .366 in that zone. .340 on fastballs. Homered on 4 of the 79 fastballs he put in play there. (These numbers seem wrong/low)

The popup was a 92 MPH fastball up and away, in the zone. He's homered on 10/95 balls in play in that location, one of his best spots for home runs, only the 2/11 down and in off the plate (2/11) is higher.

seawolf17
Oct 03 2018 07:03 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Ceetar wrote:
seawolf17 wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Well maybe. But was it a grooved fb he just missed? I wouldn't know enough to recognize myself.

I thought it was weird that he reached for the first pitch he saw. Gotta take one, there, DW.


That pitch appears to be a middle-down 97 mph fastball. Looks like he historically hits .366 in that zone. .340 on fastballs. Homered on 4 of the 79 fastballs he put in play there. (These numbers seem wrong/low)

The popup was a 92 MPH fastball up and away, in the zone. He's homered on 10/95 balls in play in that location, one of his best spots for home runs, only the 2/11 down and in off the plate (2/11) is higher.

I'm just saying, take a pitch and give the dust a chance to settle.

Of course, if he *had* homered on that first pitch, we'd still be giving him a standing ovation, crying the whole time, three days later.

Frayed Knot
Oct 03 2018 07:15 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

seawolf17 wrote:
Of course, if he *had* homered on that first pitch, we'd still be giving him a standing ovation, crying the whole time, three days later.


And would have convinced ourselves that he could still play next year.

Edgy MD
Oct 03 2018 07:20 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Yeah, I thought he swung when he should have swung in his few plate appearances. Showed good pitch recognition. It just didn't happen, but he was clearly as ready to play as he was going to be, and that's to his credit.

Centerfield
Oct 03 2018 08:30 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Ok. I've had a chance to let things settle and I'm still kind of annoyed about the way this was handled. I mean, I get that his body is still hurting badly, and I don't know how much he was able to handle, but he played several rehab games in a row. I don't think there's much question that he could have been active these last few weeks. And I think if there was no such thing as insurance, the Wilpons would have been pushing him to be active as much as possible.

I don't know. I think he definitely could have pinch hit in several games. Could have started several more and come out after 5. Get 20-30 AB's. He would have probably gotten a hit, and maybe even run into one and gotten to take a lap around the bases.

Maybe I'm being unrealistic. I was hoping he'd hit 11 HR's before they pulled him on Saturday.

Ceetar
Oct 03 2018 08:44 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

They saved what? a million by not activating him 9/1? It's junk change.

He played two rehab games in a row and I think only 9 innings of those once? I see no reason to doubt his press conference about the agony and pain and his body. Hell, even in the post-Saturday talks he was joking about how he was hoping it WOULDN'T be hit to him. He never sounded ready.

But he was with the team. I would've liked to see them activate him and let him pinch hit occasionally. For whatever reason they wanted to pretend, a team that employs Tim Tebow, that doing so would've made a farce of the game. That's why they waited until the last home stand, so all his appearances would be in front of the home crowd, and didn't play him against the 'in it' Braves.

I don't understand why they didn't announce/plan all this on 9/1 though. Why the two weeks of pretend and lying? (the media, if they cared, could've sussed some of this out. When did they call Cuddyer? Floyd? etc?) He might not have been up to major league speed, but is timing had to be roughly okay after the rehab, and I'm sure he lost most of that in the three weeks before he faced live pitching again. There had to be something from David in those simulated games and such. Just a physical drain that he couldn't handle. I wonder WHEN (again, something I haven't seen asked/answered) he decided that this was it. Maybe there was still a glimmer of hope in him in early September and he just couldn't keep up?

metsmarathon
Oct 03 2018 08:51 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

based on how he was talking to gary and keith, i think he himself didn't feel prepared enough to face major league pitching, at least not consistently. he himself said that his appearances were more of an honorific than something he had actually achieved through successful rehab. and i guess i don't think david would have been on board with making a string of shitty, painful at bats over the course of a few weeks. respect for the game and all that.

i think that if david felt he was able to play, he would have played more. and the wilpons would have played him more just to pack the house.

i don't think he could have taken another at bat on saturday, let alone taken more at bats in the days leading up to it. it looked to me like his body just wouldn't let him.

Edgy MD
Oct 03 2018 08:52 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I imagine part of the thinking with the lack of appearances before his start is that they consider him fragile and didn't want him hurting himself before his tribute game.

Also, if it takes a lot of prep work just to get loose enough to pinch-hit, maybe he just didn't have it in him.

Ceetar
Oct 03 2018 09:01 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Edgy MD wrote:
I imagine part of the thinking with the lack of appearances before his start is that they consider him fragile and didn't want him hurting himself before his tribute game.

Also, if it takes a lot of prep work just to get loose enough to pinch-hit, maybe he just didn't have it in him.


yeah. just levels and levels of sad.

He did take batting practice with the team most days I thought though, but that's still different than live pitching.

It kinda sounds like a lot of the silence about what was going to happen was just him really coming to terms with it all.

A Boy Named Seo
Oct 03 2018 09:11 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

metsmarathon wrote:
based on how he was talking to gary and keith, i think he himself didn't feel prepared enough to face major league pitching, at least not consistently. he himself said that his appearances were more of an honorific than something he had actually achieved through successful rehab. and i guess i don't think david would have been on board with making a string of shitty, painful at bats over the course of a few weeks. respect for the game and all that.

i think that if david felt he was able to play, he would have played more. and the wilpons would have played him more just to pack the house.

i don't think he could have taken another at bat on saturday, let alone taken more at bats in the days leading up to it. it looked to me like his body just wouldn't let him.


Yup, I recalled this conversation with Gary and Keith, as well. After I heard him talk to those guys, it felt more "Weekend at Bernie (Madoff's)" where they just propped David up and rolled him out for a farewell ovation. He understood that and seemed very grateful the org let him do it. I don't think it had anything to do with money.

seawolf17
Oct 03 2018 09:42 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

metsmarathon wrote:
i think that if david felt he was able to play, he would have played more. and the wilpons would have played him more just to pack the house.

This. If he could have played in all six games on that homestand, he would have, even if it was just PH appearances, both from a team perspective and his perspective. More David Wright is always better, but I trust that he knows what he could realistically be able to handle too.

MFS62
Oct 04 2018 07:57 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Has he actually said he will retire now?

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 04 2018 08:15 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I think they're avoiding the use of the word "retire" so that David can get paid for 2019 and 2020.

MFS62
Oct 04 2018 08:32 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I think they're avoiding the use of the word "retire" so that David can get paid for 2019 and 2020.

Sooooo, he'll stay on the 40 man roster through the next two Rule V Drafts?
If they want to keep him with the team and pay him, can't they work out a Bobby B-like arrangement?
Will they?
Some clarification from both parties is needed here. And Jeff treading water pending the naming of the next GM should not be a factor.

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 04 2018 08:35 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

The thing about the next two Rule V drafts is an open question.

Edgy MD
Oct 04 2018 08:38 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

I don't need any clarification.

If there is to be a restructuring, it would make all the sense in the world that it would take place after the establishment of a new management team.

I feel confident that a player on the "Physically Unable to Perform List" will not count against the 40-man roster limit.

Lefty Specialist
Oct 04 2018 08:54 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Edgy MD wrote:
I don't need any clarification.

If there is to be a restructuring, it would make all the sense in the world that it would take place after the establishment of a new management team.

I feel confident that a player on the "Physically Unable to Perform List" will not count against the 40-man roster limit.


Yeah, something will get worked out. I'm not concerned.

Ceetar
Oct 04 2018 09:01 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Lots of moving parts (and we'll hear about none of them) for factoring in a buyout and agreement between Wright, the Mets, and the insurance company.

MFS62
Oct 04 2018 10:18 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

The rulz:
https://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3506
And I can't see anything specific to David's case since he is currently on the 40 man roster.

My mother always wanted me to be a Lawyer, but I'm not.
Can any of you clubhouse and other lawyers decipher this as pertaining to Wright's situation?

Later

Ceetar
Oct 04 2018 11:46 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

MFS62 wrote:
The rulz:
https://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3506
And I can't see anything specific to David's case since he is currently on the 40 man roster.

My mother always wanted me to be a Lawyer, but I'm not.
Can any of you clubhouse and other lawyers decipher this as pertaining to Wright's situation?

Later


seems like you can just add him to "An MLB player who is on the Ineligible List, the Disqualified List, or the Voluntary Retired List, or on the Restricted List" and never reinstate him.

Nymr83
Oct 04 2018 07:58 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

The team and David have made clear he is done playing, so whats the rush for us to worry about the logistics?

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 04 2018 08:26 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Kristie Ackert wrote:
The Mets are talking to David Wright about a settlement that would take him off their roster. Wright, who has undergone several major surgeries on his spine over the last four years, is physically unable to play. He has not declared himself retired, as that would require him to forfeit the remaining $27 million on his contract.

Jeff Wilpon said Tuesday they are working on a deal.

"The biggest thing is to see if we can work something out where he can come off the roster so we save another player potentially," Wilpon said.

Nymr83
Dec 05 2018 12:02 AM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

Well, Jeff, you can just pay him and get back true roster spot!

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 11 2018 02:34 PM
Re: I’m rooting for a David Wright Comeback

David Wright getting his feet wet in new role with Mets

He's been doing some consulting on player evaluations with Brodie in Las Vegas this week.