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IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Edgy MD Aug 14 2018 02:57 PM

The star-crossed Mets come to beautiful Oriole Park at Camden Yards to take on the star-crossed, snake-bitten and witch-cursed Baltimore Orioles. The Orioles have already been eliminated from the division race, earlier than any team in like a million years. That doesn't mean the Mets can just throw their gloves out there. Oh, no. In fact, the Orioles are pitching Andrew Cashner, who — at 3-8 with a 4.83 ERA — would seem like the short end of the matchup most of the time. Tonight, though, against Jason Vargas ... not so much. Then again, the Mets are HOT! Cashner really looks his part. A burly, scuffy, out-of-his-depth grinder clinging to the hems of his major league pitcher status. A lot of heart, a lot of mullet, but not a lot of break on his offspeed stuff, and not a lot of fannies in the seats when he's pitching. [fimg=319]https://deadrabbit.barstoolsports.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/13/GettyImages-921407418.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=381]https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn-s3.si.com%2Fs3fs-public%2Fstyles%2Fmarquee_large_2x%2Fpublic%2F2016%2F07%2F29%2Fmarlins-andrew-cashner-shaves-beard.jpg%3Fitok%3DLrRKjIct&w=1100&q=85[/fimg] [fimg=320]https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/fan/image?url=https://puckettspond.com/wp-content/uploads/getty-images/2017/10/844937016-new-york-yankees-v-texas-rangers.jpg.jpg&[/fimg] [fimg=380]http://www.trbimg.com/img-5b5506d7/turbine/bs-sp-orioles-cashner-20180723[/fimg] It tells you what kind of esteem that Buck Showalter has garnered in Bal'mer that he's still employed to run this show. Here's the lineup he's been typically throwing out there since Manny Machado left and took the sun with him, and before I post it, I'm going to ask you to sit down and brace yourself. This is ugly. [list]c: Caleb Joseph (.216 / .251 / .342 // .593) 1b: Chris Davis (.158 / .242 / .299 // .541) 2b: Jace Peterson (.196 / .313 / .318 // .631) 3b: Renato Núñez (.248 / .319 / .396 // .715, but .292 / .361 / .462 // .823 in 19 games since coming over from Texas) ss: Tim Beckham (.229 / .289 / .361 // .651) lf: Trey Mancini (.234 / .301 / .396 // .697) cf: Cedric Mullins (.385 / .500 / .538 // 1.038 in four games, but .267 / .332 / .425 // .757 in 59 games for Norfolk, the stolen affiliate) rf: Adam Jones: .283 / .313 / .428 // .741 dh: Mark Trumbo: .266 / .320 // .468 // .787[/list:u] So there you have it. Adam Jones has been decent-ish for a centerfielder, but now he's a rightfielder. Mark Trumbo would make an OK thirdbaseman, but he's a DH. Cedric Mullins has started fast, but it's not like he has phenom pedigree. He looks like an NFL halfback, though. The best guy in their lineup since Manny Machado left has been Manny Machado's heretofore unknown replacement. Beckham and Mancini hit once a week. Joseph and Peterson have most definitely been holes in the lineup. And Chris Davis has been a black hole. And the Orioles have him signed for four more years at $17 million per. Orioles fans are always hopeful, but they don't quite know which peg to hang that hope on going forward. This seems like the nature of being a bridesmaid in the AL East. They can build a team that can hang with the Yankees and the Red Sox for a few years now and then, but then they seemingly end up paying for it for five or 10 years in the wilderness. They're a team with a lot of character and color in a town with a lot of character and color, and then the bottom falls out, they have a huge payroll obligation, and they turn back into the Padres East. And yeah, they took two of two from a punchless Mets (scores of 2-1 and 1-0) at Citi Field back in June.

Fman99 Aug 14 2018 07:19 PM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

They suck super bad. And I am fearful that we won't be able to hang with them.

bmfc1 Aug 14 2018 07:34 PM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

METS: 1. Amed Rosario (R) SS 2. Jeff McNeil (L) 2B 3. Michael Conforto (L) DH 4. Wilmer Flores (R) 1B 5. Brandon Nimmo (L) LF 6. Todd Frazier (R) 3B 7. Austin Jackson (R) CF 8. Jose Bautista (R) RF 9. Kevin Plawecki (R) C THOSE WHO DARE TO FACE VARGAS: 1. Jonathan Villar (S) 2B 2. Renato Nunez (R) 3B 3. Adam Jones (R) RF 4. Mark Trumbo (R) DH 5. Trey Mancini (R) LF 6. Tim Beckham (R) SS 7. Chris Davis (L) 1B 8. Caleb Joseph (R) C 9. Cedric Mullins (S) CF Buck Showalter making the lineup: "it doesn't matter so I'll group the guys whose first names begin with 'T' and then the guys whose first names begin with 'C'."

G-Fafif Aug 14 2018 08:02 PM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Whereas Wilmer Flores is the cleanup hitter in the Mets' lineup, Christianity has Jesus H. Christ batting fourth. Granted, we understand Christianity's been around more than 2,000 years and the Mets fewer than 60, yet the difference between Wilmer Flores as your cleanup hitter and the Son of God speaks volumes about the distance between these two franchises. Of course they're both folk heroes to their respective fan bases.

Frayed Knot Aug 14 2018 09:34 PM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Edgy MD wrote: [list]c: Caleb Joseph (.216 / .251 / .342 // .593) 1b: Chris Davis (.158 / .242 / .299 // .541) 2b: Jace Peterson (.196 / .313 / .318 // .631) 3b: Renato Núñez (.248 / .319 / .396 // .715, but .292 / .361 / .462 // .823 in 19 games since coming over from Texas) ss: Tim Beckham (.229 / .289 / .361 // .651) lf: Trey Mancini (.234 / .301 / .396 // .697) cf: Cedric Mullins (.385 / .500 / .538 // 1.038 in four games, but .267 / .332 / .425 // .757 in 59 games for Norfolk, the stolen affiliate) rf: Adam Jones: .283 / .313 / .428 // .741 dh: Mark Trumbo: .266 / .320 // .468 // .787[/list:u] Well at least that 541 OPS'ing Chris Davis isn't the one who's 32 y/o and in the second year of a deal for $23 mil/year and running thru 2022. Oh wait, it is! That's former Brave Jace Peterson at 2B across from one of the most unsuccessful former #1 overall draft picks (tho not by Bal'mer) Tim Beckham. Those are the two who are replacing Machado & Schoop LF'er Mancini is coming off a decent rookie season but his OPS+ fell from 120 last season to 92 in, this, his second full year And I've never heard of Cedric Mullins who sounds like he should be in the NBA

bmfc1 Aug 14 2018 09:54 PM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

G-Fafif wrote: Whereas Wilmer Flores is the cleanup hitter in the Mets' lineup, Christianity has Jesus H. Christ batting fourth. Granted, we understand Christianity's been around more than 2,000 years and the Mets fewer than 60, yet the difference between Wilmer Flores as your cleanup hitter and the Son of God speaks volumes about the distance between these two franchises. Of course they're both folk heroes to their respective fan bases. G-Fafif with a spot on parody of last night's ESPN telecast.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2018 12:36 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

You're missing some Metball, you non-posters. Mets have come from behind (again!) to take a 2-1 lead. Vargy has completed five innings, but I imagine [crossout:1u3q6dkb]Jerry[/crossout:1u3q6dkb] [crossout:1u3q6dkb]Terry[/crossout:1u3q6dkb] Mickey wants him to stretch a little bit and do the pen a favor. Be the innings gobbler he was meant to be. That may be courting fire, but hey, his ERA is down to 8.08. Maybe they'll pull him if he can get it under 8.00.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2018 12:43 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

And that strategy blows up. I forgot to mention — as historically awful as the O's offense has been, they've been slugging it since the All-Star Break.

41Forever Aug 15 2018 12:44 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Booth going on about Vargas getting into the sixth inning for the first time, and Vargas promptly gives up a homer and a walk....

Edgy MD Aug 15 2018 12:48 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Eighty-two pitches on his ledger, with the bottom of the lineup coming up in the seventh. You think they try to stick with him?

Edgy MD Aug 15 2018 12:59 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

And shit. Too much Vargas.

41Forever Aug 15 2018 01:00 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Chris Davis doesn't hit many, but when he does, they go a long, long way. O's up 3-2.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2018 01:04 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

So they're talking about how the Orioles have the second worst pitching in all of baseball [ERA = 5.03, ahead of only KCR] and yet the Mets have scored 3 runs against them in 25 innings.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2018 01:10 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Annnnd the game was just put out of reach.

41Forever Aug 15 2018 01:12 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Do you think Rosario gets that if Frazier doesn't touch it?

Edgy MD Aug 15 2018 01:13 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

I'm watching through the radio, so I dunno.

bmfc1 Aug 15 2018 01:15 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

If Frazier leaves it alone, Rosario makes the play and the run doesn't score. If Frazier doesn't throw a lollipop to McNeil, perhaps McNeil doesn't airmail the throw to first (yesterday). Two bad plays by Frazier that do not "show up in the box score".

41Forever Aug 15 2018 01:26 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Sewald is not going to get the Schaefer reliever lead this year.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2018 01:34 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Seaweed was always something of low-caliber lightning in a bottle, the kind of "organization" guy who might have enough to effect a good stretch or three but probably not enough to be a longterm solution. I wish he and his lovely wifey the best in the future with the Ducks.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2018 01:38 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

RAL-LY!! [youtube:nqxc2v6n]YEpr8kaczck[/youtube:nqxc2v6n]

Edgy MD Aug 15 2018 01:40 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Tying run on deck, kids!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2018 01:40 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Yes. I have my rally cap on. Triple and a 2-base error is the way to start a 9th inning down b y 4.

d'Kong76 Aug 15 2018 01:41 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Frazier with a Baltimore chop and neither Keith or Wayne jump on that.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2018 01:43 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Howie and Joshie were all over it. Josh gave an "appropriately enough" in the middle of his p-b-p.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2018 01:43 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Great song up there anyway

Edgy MD Aug 15 2018 01:44 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Come on, Wecki!! Keep it going!!

Edgy MD Aug 15 2018 01:46 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Ah, shitmonkeys. Show some pride tomorrow night. The Edgys will be in the park.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2018 01:50 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

That was not a "bad" play by Frazier. Bad luck is all. 3rd baseman need to go for virtually everything they can reach over there and for him to pull up and simply assume that Rosario can both reach that and then get an out would be a bad play.

d'Kong76 Aug 15 2018 02:08 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

If I hear one more thing about a quality start by Vargas...

Fman99 Aug 15 2018 11:42 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

Fman99 wrote: They suck super bad. And I am fearful that we won't be able to hang with them. I hate being right sometimes. We watched the whole game. It is what it is. Bullpen barfed it up.

MFS62 Aug 15 2018 11:48 AM Re: IGT 8/14: NYM @ BAL

d'Kong76 wrote: If I hear one more thing about a quality start by Vargas... Well, at least we got a quality start from Vargas. (Ducking, but when you tee one up like that, it was only a matter of time. I just HAD to do it) Later