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Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

Centerfield Jul 18 2018 11:25 PM

Well not quite. The actual quote: "Mike's a great, great player and a really nice person, but he's made certain decisions about what he wants to do and what he doesn't want to do, and how he wants to spend his free time and how he doesn't want to spend his free time," Manfred said. "That's up to him. If he wants to engage and be more active in that area, I think we could help him make his brand really, really big. But he has to make a decision that he's prepared to engage in that area. It takes time and effort." Story: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb- ... he-player/ Starting to think that this Manfred guy is a bit of a dickschnizzle.

Edgy MD Jul 19 2018 02:13 AM Re: Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

Sort of like a director questioning an actress' commitment to her art and career because she doesn't want to go there. Not really, but still.

Frayed Knot Jul 19 2018 02:26 AM Re: Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

I heard Manfred's comments and I don't think he's as harsh as being portrayed here. He's saying that it's ultimately up to the player as to how much he wants to put into marketing himself and that, absent that, there's only so much MLB can do. They can't force someone to be Face-smash savvy. MLB gets criticized often for 'not marketing their players' well enough (I've been hearing that since the dawn of time seemingly) but this isn't the NBA which is, and always has been, a star-driven league. That's trait is the main strength of the NBA although it's also their greatest weakness (Cavs are likely to go from 60-20 to 20-60 on account of one player moving). Plus, I believe 43% of the league is currently dating a Kardashian/Jenner although that number may have changed in the last ten minutes so my math may be off a bit.

Edgy MD Jul 19 2018 02:43 AM Re: Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

I don't think there's anything wrong with the notion he's espousing, it's just real dicky to be calling him out publicly. He's the best player in the world. You're a lawyer in an unimaginative gray suit with a shiny forehead.

Frayed Knot Jul 19 2018 10:44 PM Re: Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

Edgy MD wrote: I don't think there's anything wrong with the notion he's espousing, it's just real dicky to be calling him out publicly. These conversations are usually started with the press folks asking some variation of the question why Trout isn't as well known or talked about as often as LeBron. And at least some part of the answer is: because he doesn't want to be. Not sure that's the same as publicly calling him out.

Edgy MD Jul 19 2018 11:00 PM Re: Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

"Well, I think he's just terrific. And baseball is lucky to have him. And nobody's luckier than the fans of the California Angels of Whatever. And that's why we have this game, so the whole nation — baseball fans and non-baseball fans — can enjoy and get to know these guys, these great athletes and great personalities, the most outstanding players of the greatest game in the world." "And just for the record, Lebron's terrific too, and any time he wants to come on down to a big league ballpark and take a few cuts against Jacob deGrom or Max Scherzer, well, we'd love to make that happen." — Commissioner Wiseman.

Centerfield Jul 20 2018 01:40 PM Re: Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

Damn right. Also Commissioner Wiseman: *Universal DH? Sure. As in ban the fucking thing universally. You know what I think about the universal DH? Two words for you. New Coke. *Effective today, the Astros will be back in the NL, and the Brewers back to the AL. I mean, I don't even know what we were thinking. *We're going shelve all the talk about pitch clocks, and runners on base for extra innings until we start losing money. Everyone here doing pretty ok? Good. Let's revisit this in 50 years. *We have started a comprehensive audit of the financials of the New York Mets, SNY, and the Wilpon family. It's incomprehensible that a NY franchise is unable to fund a payroll commensurate with the revenues they receive. We cannot say for certain if they have diverted MLB revenue to satisfy personal debt, but I assure you we will get to the bottom of this and make such moves as are necessary to protect the integrity of the game.

bmfc1 Jul 20 2018 02:57 PM Re: Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

What's Trout supposed to do? Put out a rap video? Get arrested? He's married so Page Six can't report that he gives gift baskets to his dates. Maybe the league should orchestra a trade to the Dodgers to increase his profile. He's doing his job and is accessible to the media. It's not his fault that he excels in a sport where he doesn't touch the ball on every possession. He plays in a sport where the fans can eagerly anticipate his plate appearance and then he gets intentionally walked and he never swings the bat. I went to a game in Baltimore a few weeks ago because he was playing and I was lucky to see him hit a HR and make a great catch. His other 3 ABs: a groundout, a HBP, and an intentional walk.

Edgy MD Jul 20 2018 03:16 PM Re: Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

That's the challenge baseball has in marketing around the players. Unlike baseball and football, where the best players are given a disproportionate amount of opportunities to excel, the best baseball players in the lineup aren't typically going to get more than one plate appearance beyond the worst. If you went and saw Michael Jordan at the height of his powers, you'd still likely see him give you 35 points, six rebounds, six assists and maybe a block or two. That's an average night. Guaranteed highlights. Even if he was totally off his game, shooting 35%, there was a good chance he'd score at least 20, with one or two of his baskets being jaw-dropping. Because the team would keep giving him the ball. Barry Bonds, at the height of his remarkable and enhanced powers, on a typical night, would give you 1-for-3 with a walk. Maybe a stolen base if it was before 1999. There was every chance you'd see a terrific game from him, but there was every chance you'd see nothing of the kind. Because baseball is democratic, and everybody gets a turn, at least on offense. And if Barry pops out, he doesn't get the ball back. In fact, he won't be batting again for a couple of innings. So you have to market the game, and the team. Them's the only things that's somewhat guaranteed to be out there every night. The actors are the same, but the script is totally unwritten, and we don't even know who the hero is. Personally, I think it's best when different teams have a different character. The stealing team, the power team, the crafty-old-pitcher team. The team that grows their grass high because their infielders are all old. The team where all the players are hair-trigger tempered and wear mullets. The team that doesn't let their players grow long hair or wear facial hair. The team that slides dirty. Only one team should have a character race. Only one team should play "Sweet Caroline." Only one team should play "Rock and Roll (Part 2)." (Actually, zero teams should play that.) The increasing and ongoing incorporation makes the league better at marketing, but watered down and redundant and less marketable.

G-Fafif Jul 20 2018 03:39 PM Re: Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

bmfc1 wrote: What's Trout supposed to do? Put out a rap video? My name's Mike Trout I don't make out ...except with my wife I'm not some lout I play south of LA Where it's kinda quiet I don't endorse very much Wouldn't expect you to buy it My numbers are fire According to sources To get me to expound You'll need wild horses Commissioner says he can help my brand Commissioner says I don't understand Commissioner, I say, just watch my game I'll acknowledge you politely from the Hall of Fame

Centerfield Jul 20 2018 03:45 PM Re: Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

G-Fafif wrote: bmfc1 wrote: What's Trout supposed to do? Put out a rap video? My name's Mike Trout I don't make out ...except with my wife I'm not some lout I play south of LA Where it's kinda quiet I don't endorse very much Wouldn't expect you to buy it My numbers are fire According to sources To get me to expound You'll need wild horses Commissioner says he can help my brand Commissioner says I don't understand Commissioner, I say, just watch my game I'll acknowledge you politely from the Hall of Fame Nice!!! I found that to be not the least bit boring!!!

G-Fafif Jul 20 2018 03:48 PM Re: Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

Centerfield wrote: Nice!!! I found that to be not the least bit boring!!! On the strength of his MLB-directed image makeover, Trout has just been named regional spokesman for the Vanilla Extract Council.

Edgy MD Jul 20 2018 04:14 PM Re: Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

And the Department of the Interior's Trout Council!!

41Forever Jul 20 2018 05:41 PM Re: Manfred on Trout: He's lazy and boring

he's been on these pretzel boxes for the last couple years.