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Fuck Godwin: Trump is Hitler!

batmagadanleadoff Jul 23 2018 12:56 AM

The thread for Trump/Hitler comparisons. http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/39 ... umps?amp=1

batmagadanleadoff Jul 23 2018 01:00 AM Re: Fuck Godwin: Trump is Hitler!

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batmagadanleadoff Jul 23 2018 01:04 AM Re: Fuck Godwin: Trump is Hitler!

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RealityChuck Jul 23 2018 02:09 AM Re: Fuck Godwin: Trump is Hitler!

I will point out that Godwin's Law is an observation, not a condemnation. There are many times where comparisons to Hitler are perfectly apt.

Lefty Specialist Jul 23 2018 04:48 PM Re: Fuck Godwin: Trump is Hitler!

I hate when people (or magazines) do this. Hitler was an exceptional (and not in a good way) person and leader. If Hitler were running Germany today, I'd imagine Trump would have high praise for him and probably would have had a summit with him by now. He's done some of the things that Hitler did early on (demonize minorities, attack the governmental and judicial institutions, project a sense of victimization, vilify the press except for the party organs). That in and of itself isn't enough to make him Hitler. Hitler was a lot smarter, for instance. And he wasn't being controlled by the Russians.

Edgy MD Jul 23 2018 04:50 PM Re: Fuck Godwin: Trump is Hitler!

As noted earlier, Trump is far more of the Mussolini brand of populist authoritarian fascist, with a healthy heaping of Berlusconi sauce.

Lefty Specialist Jul 23 2018 04:57 PM Re: Fuck Godwin: Trump is Hitler!

Yes, Mussolini's a better fit. I'd advise The Donald to avoid gas stations, though.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 23 2018 05:52 PM Re: Fuck Godwin: Trump is Hitler!

Edgy MD wrote: As noted earlier, Trump is far more of the Mussolini brand of populist authoritarian fascist, with a healthy heaping of Berlusconi sauce. I agree. Actually, I think Trump has more in common with Juan Peron than with Mussolini, but all these comparisons resonate. Me, I'll stick with Hitler, too. There are enormous similarities, including the cartoonish buffoonery they both project. The daily bullshitting to the public on a grand scale, the undermining of the press, the denial of science to the point of crackpotism to advance goals, the scapegoating of a vulnerable class, the enormous corruption and the overall undermining of democratic principles. And to deny these similarities because Hitler committed mass genocide to advance his goal of world domination and Trump just wants power to grab whatever isn't nailed down rings hollow.

Edgy MD Jul 23 2018 06:02 PM Re: Fuck Godwin: Trump is Hitler!

No, I deny it because Hitler was smart, his own man, and a fantastic public speaker. Peron resonates if for no other reason than he had a popular, zexy, younger spouse. But he was a military strongman. And as we all know, President Trump is a draft-dodging chicken hawk.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 23 2018 06:09 PM Re: Fuck Godwin: Trump is Hitler!

Hitler was a fantastic public speaker but Trump is probably just as effective. The world's a lot dumber and definitely less articulate today, and with each passing generation. Besides, we're not looking for perfect comparisons, otherwise Trump would be like nobody else, which is technically, probably right. We're just looking for enough similarities. Otherwise, the genocide alone would be a deal breaker.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 07 2018 05:10 PM Re: Fuck Godwin: Trump is Hitler!

A leading Holocaust historian just seriously compared the US to Nazi Germany “If the US has someone whom historians will look back on as the gravedigger of American democracy, it is Mitch McConnell.” By Zack Beauchamp@zackbeauchampzack@vox.com Oct 5, 2018, 11:21am EDT excerpt: Usually, comparisons between Donald Trump’s America and Nazi Germany come from cranks and internet trolls. But a new essay in the New York Review of Books pointing out “troubling similarities” between the 1930s and today is different: It’s written by Christopher Browning, one of America’s most eminent and well-respected historians of the Holocaust. In it, he warns that democracy here is under serious threat, in the way that German democracy was prior to Hitler’s rise — and really could topple altogether. Browning, a professor emeritus at the University of North Carolina, specializes in the origins and operation of Nazi genocide. His 1992 book Ordinary Men, a close examination of how an otherwise unremarkable German police battalion evolved into an instrument of mass slaughter, is widely seen as one of the defining works on how typical Germans became complicit in Nazi atrocities. So when Browning makes comparisons between the rise of Hitler and our current historical period, this isn’t some keyboard warrior spouting off. It is one of the most knowledgeable people on Nazism alive using his expertise to sound the alarm as to what he sees as an existential threat to American democracy. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... -historian