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bmfc1 Sep 26 2018 11:16 AM

[tweet:1o1lhodd]https://twitter.com/NYPost_Mets/status/1044796276653674496[/tweet:1o1lhodd] Jeffy Wilpon, the third Trump son, will mumble through a press conference with the media on Sunday. What do you expect him to say? Some guesses: "We are committed to winning" "We are in the process of finding the best possible General Manager" "Mickey has done a great job"

MFS62 Sep 26 2018 11:45 AM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Announcing the name of the new GM? Later

d'Kong76 Sep 26 2018 11:53 AM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

"Let's go Yankees!" *clap* *clap* *clapclapclap*

cooby Sep 26 2018 12:24 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Selling the team

Edgy MD Sep 26 2018 12:51 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

I like the thread title. It's like he's pulling a David Wright, returning from years of speechlessness.

MFS62 Sep 26 2018 01:02 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

cooby wrote: Selling the team So let it be written. So let it be done. Later

Ceetar Sep 26 2018 01:24 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

bmfc1 wrote: What do you expect him to say? Some guesses: "We are committed to winning" "We are in the process of finding the best possible General Manager" "Mickey has done a great job" yeah, that's what it'll be. It's just a press debriefing. Lots of change going on, tell the media the plan and they'll mostly parrot that all offseason. starting the GM search immediately, though there are guys+ on playoff teams that we have to wait to talk to. etc. We like Callaway and expect him back but obviously need to be on the same page with new GM. Happy with the way the team has played in the second half. Full commitment to competing in 2019 and how we will do that is part of the interview, obviously. Some stuff about Horwitz. Some stuff about David coming to spring training to be with the team. Something something Syracuse?

Centerfield Sep 26 2018 02:00 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Ceetar wrote: What do you expect him to say? Some guesses: "We are committed to winning" "We are in the process of finding the best possible General Manager" "Mickey has done a great job" yeah, that's what it'll be. It's just a press debriefing. Lots of change going on, tell the media the plan and they'll mostly parrot that all offseason. starting the GM search immediately, though there are guys+ on playoff teams that we have to wait to talk to. etc. We like Callaway and expect him back but obviously need to be on the same page with new GM. Happy with the way the team has played in the second half. Full commitment to competing in 2019 and how we will do that is part of the interview, obviously. Some stuff about Horwitz. Some stuff about David coming to spring training to be with the team. Something something Syracuse? Yup. No one will ask him why the Mets can't afford to fund a big market payroll.

Ceetar Sep 26 2018 02:30 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Someone might ask him if they'll be in the market for big players and he'll hedge and say something about depending on how the new GM feels the team will be constructed, they could be in the market for anyone. And then there will be 95 blog posts and articles written taking his comments has hard fact about what the Mets will or won't do.

d'Kong76 Sep 26 2018 03:00 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Maybe he'll announce that he's the new GM! #lgm #ygb #tkti

41Forever Sep 26 2018 03:10 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

I know Horowitz was a legend and popular with players as the buffer with the media. But I'm curious how the new person, hopefully well-versed in the changing media landscape, will work with the Wilpons. If Jeff is going to be the face of ownership and the subject of many critical stories, there's value in trotting him out more often -- at least more than an end-of-season wrap-up. He was uncomfortable in the press conference with Wright, but got better once he stopped reading from the index cards. (There are much better ways to do that than reading from index cards.) As for this one, Ceets is probably right. Disappointing season, committed to winning, improved second half, new GM search progress, praise for Wright.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 26 2018 04:22 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Jeff's gonna tell us that though it might be just two first place finishes in 30 seasons, it's actually two first place finishes in 29 years. Then he's gonna pivot.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 26 2018 05:06 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Maybe Fred's stepping down?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 26 2018 05:27 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

He's going to announce his engagement to Leigh Castergine.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 26 2018 05:31 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

The rumor is that it'll be a shotgun wedding.

Nymr83 Sep 26 2018 11:23 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

I wonder why, with the magic of internet, the Wilpons felt the need to announce a press conference nearly a week out. Wouldn't "Jeff will speak tomorrow" have been enough for a quorum of talking heads with press passes to clear their calendars?

d'Kong76 Sep 26 2018 11:32 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Because doing things half-assed is in their Sterling DNA? I imagine a chunk of 'news' will be Wright staying on with the organization in some capacity.

MFS62 Sep 27 2018 12:45 AM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

d'Kong76 wrote: Because doing things half-assed is in their Sterling DNA? I imagine a chunk of 'news' will be Wright staying on with the organization in some capacity. Strength and conditioning coach? Later

bmfc1 Sep 27 2018 12:20 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Nymr83 wrote: I wonder why, with the magic of internet, the Wilpons felt the need to announce a press conference nearly a week out. Wouldn't "Jeff will speak tomorrow" have been enough for a quorum of talking heads with press passes to clear their calendars? Also, why is Jeffy talking on Sunday? That's David Wright's last day as an active player. Unless Jeffy has to immediately get to the Hamptons there is no reason why he can't mumble his way through a press conference on Monday (which would also give the Mets another day of coverage).

MFS62 Sep 27 2018 12:47 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

bmfc1 wrote: Also, why is Jeffy talking on Sunday? That's David Wright's last day as an active player. Unless Jeffy has to immediately get to the Hamptons there is no reason why he can't mumble his way through a press conference on Monday (which would also give the Mets another day of coverage). Much has been written here about Jeff. I don't think anyone has accused him of being too bright. Later

Benjamin Grimm Sep 30 2018 10:38 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Anthony DiComo has the story: Wilpon: New GM will decide fates of top execs While Wilpon wants to keep the bulk of his current staff intact, he will leave the fates of assistant GM John Ricco, special assistants J.P. Ricciardi and Omar Minaya, manager Mickey Callaway and his coaches least partially in the hands of the new GM. "They're not here no matter what," Wilpon said of that group. "They're part of the failure that we had this year, the same as I am and the rest of the front office. It's only fair to give somebody coming in an open book to bring in who they want. Would I like them to stay? Yes, from an ownership standpoint, I'd like them to stay. I'd like Mickey to stay. That's from ownership, though. We're going to rely on a new GM to give us that direction and guidance. Is he throwing Sandy Alderson under the bus? Wilpon declined to offer specifics on the Mets' budget or offseason plan, putting both under the stewardship of the incoming GM. He similarly said that many of the Mets' more austere policies in recent seasons, including their relatively small analytics department and their hesitance to spend on premium free agents, were due to recommendations from outgoing GM Sandy Alderson.

d'Kong76 Sep 30 2018 11:28 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He similarly said that many of the Mets' more austere policies in recent seasons, including their relatively small analytics department and their hesitance to spend on premium free agents, were due to recommendations from outgoing GM Sandy Alderson. What a jive-turkey assclown. Fuck him, fuck them.

bmfc1 Sep 30 2018 11:32 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

So if the new GM wants to go all-out to sign Machado, he'll approve?

Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2018 12:14 AM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

That's what it sounds like. But perhaps if a candidate says he wants to go all-in to sign Manny Machado, the Mets will hire somebody else instead.

Lefty Specialist Oct 01 2018 12:21 AM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

The new GM will have to major in Wilpon Management. They'll have no real freedom to do what they want.

MFS62 Oct 01 2018 12:23 AM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Lefty Specialist wrote: The new GM will have to major in Wilpon Management. They'll have no real freedom to do what they want. Jeff doesn't know the meaning of the word "freedom". And, he doesn't know the meaning of a lot of other words, either, one being "spend". Later

Centerfield Oct 01 2018 02:28 AM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

“We would loved to have shopped at the top of the market this year. Unfortunately with our GM situation haveing been unresolved at the start of the offseason we just didn’t have enough time to lay the groundwork for such large investments. That being said we feel very confident about the moves we made. We feel very lucky to return great veterans like Bartolo Colon and Jose Bautista. We think 2019 is going to be a great year.”

Centerfield Oct 01 2018 02:50 AM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

All kidding aside, Jeff Wilpon made it clear that all final recommendations from the new GM would go through Jeff. If anyone has wondered why the Mets still don’t have a GM despite knowing we’ve needed one since June, this is why. We all just saw the GM on Sunday.

Ceetar Oct 01 2018 03:14 AM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Centerfield wrote: All kidding aside, Jeff Wilpon made it clear that all final recommendations from the new GM would go through Jeff. If anyone has wondered why the Mets still don’t have a GM despite knowing we’ve needed one since June, this is why. We all just saw the GM on Sunday. all teams. every last one of them.

Gwreck Oct 01 2018 03:16 AM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Once the Mets sign Manny Machado (second choice: Bryce Harper) then I’ll start believing things Jeff Wilpon says.

Nymr83 Oct 01 2018 05:43 AM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Centerfield wrote: “We would loved to have shopped at the top of the market this year. Unfortunately with our GM situation haveing been unresolved at the start of the offseason we just didn’t have enough time to lay the groundwork for such large investments. That being said we feel very confident about the moves we made. We feel very lucky to return great veterans like Bartolo Colon and Jose Bautista. We think 2019 is going to be a great year.” You forgot to announce the early April "David Wright [crossout]money grab[/crossout]Day" and "Jose Reyes Sleeveless White T-Shirt Day"

smg58 Oct 01 2018 12:49 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Is he throwing Sandy Alderson under the bus? Wilpon declined to offer specifics on the Mets' budget or offseason plan, putting both under the stewardship of the incoming GM. He similarly said that many of the Mets' more austere policies in recent seasons, including their relatively small analytics department and their hesitance to spend on premium free agents, were due to recommendations from outgoing GM Sandy Alderson. He's mostly throwing Alderson under the bus. I do think Alderson was reluctant to pull the trigger on long-term commitments, and not just for short-term payroll concerns. But it's clear enough he worked within the restrictions of the budget he was given.

seawolf17 Oct 01 2018 01:00 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

smg58 wrote: He's mostly throwing Alderson under the bus. I do think Alderson was reluctant to pull the trigger on long-term commitments, and not just for short-term payroll concerns. But it's clear enough he worked within the restrictions of the budget he was given. Yes, I agree with this. Although in Sandy's defense, isn't his whole MO making good baseball decisions while saving money? I think that's literally why he was hired. It's the Moneyball thing.

dgwphotography Oct 01 2018 01:05 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

seawolf17 wrote: smg58 wrote: He's mostly throwing Alderson under the bus. I do think Alderson was reluctant to pull the trigger on long-term commitments, and not just for short-term payroll concerns. But it's clear enough he worked within the restrictions of the budget he was given. Yes, I agree with this. Although in Sandy's defense, isn't his whole MO making good baseball decisions while saving money? I think that's literally why he was hired. It's the Moneyball thing. It's easier to do the Moneyball thing when no one else is trying to do it...

seawolf17 Oct 01 2018 01:07 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

dgwphotography wrote: seawolf17 wrote: smg58 wrote: He's mostly throwing Alderson under the bus. I do think Alderson was reluctant to pull the trigger on long-term commitments, and not just for short-term payroll concerns. But it's clear enough he worked within the restrictions of the budget he was given. Yes, I agree with this. Although in Sandy's defense, isn't his whole MO making good baseball decisions while saving money? I think that's literally why he was hired. It's the Moneyball thing. It's easier to do the Moneyball thing when no one else is trying to do it... True. Rather than corner the market on some sort of secret thing, they just hopped on the bandwagon and did it poorly. ("Hey! The Sox play Sweet Caroline! Let's try that!")

smg58 Oct 01 2018 01:46 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

In Alderson's defense, he was handed a broken team and got to the World Series in fairly short order. And, notwithstanding the irony that it wound up hurting more than helping, he wasn't afraid to pay to keep the team's key pieces in Queens. You can definitely be critical of a few things (the Brewers paid less for two seasons of Jhoulys Chacin than the Mets paid for two seasons of Jason Vargas), but the injuries were not his fault.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 01 2018 02:11 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

The Mets didn't want Alderson, he was foisted upon them because they needed someone skilled at operating on a low budget, and was definitely thrown under the bus if I read Jeff's comments correctly. This was set in motion when Fred saw to it that he got an alternate channel of front office influence in Collins and Minaya; yet he never saw it necessary to have replaced Alderson's own right-hand man in DePodesta. Alderson got a shitty team that slashed payroll in an inflationary market to the World Series. The next GM should be so incompetent

Ceetar Oct 01 2018 02:22 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: The Mets didn't want Alderson, he was foisted upon them because they needed someone skilled at operating on a low budget, and was definitely thrown under the bus if I read Jeff's comments correctly. This was set in motion when Fred saw to it that he got an alternate channel of front office influence in Collins and Minaya; yet he never saw it necessary to have replaced Alderson's own right-hand man in DePodesta. Alderson got a shitty team that slashed payroll in an inflationary market to the World Series. The next GM should be so incompetent I still don't believe that first part. Jeff's comments definitely weren't flattering, and were lies/untruths, but I think the purpose of them was to try to deny that he meddles more than knocking the way they operated with Alderson. You know, the same bs he says every time he opens his mouth. He's not blocking the GM from signing anyone he wants. Of course, there are caveats about budget. of course the budget is fungible depending on various things, and the pitch, and the attendance. blah blah blah. Luckily he didn't come out and say "We have to be big players for the big FA" though. There's zero value in that. It allows those guys to use the Mets as a way to try to inflate the market, it too easily telegraphs a move that isn't his to make (and blows the whole 'I don't meddle' bit to shreds), and already leads his future GM down a path he might not want to make.

Edgy MD Oct 01 2018 02:38 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

You wanna talk Machado, I'm all ears. Bryce Harper can get lost.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2018 02:49 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

My Spidey sense tells me that the Mets are going to go after McCutchen.

smg58 Oct 01 2018 02:59 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

It's not that Harper can get lost so much as we really don't need another left-handed corner outfielder. I suppose you could argue that's he's played some center, but the outfielders the Mets currently have all had a better year defensively (at least according to the Fielding Bible and Fangraphs). Conforto had a comparable year in 2017, and Nimmo had a better year this year. You could plug multiple much bigger holes for what Harper would cost. Or you could go for Machado instead. If we can afford to pay somebody $210M over seven years, then we can afford to bench Todd Frazier. That would be nice and simple.

Lefty Specialist Oct 01 2018 03:13 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Machado wants to play shortstop, not third. Just saying.

Centerfield Oct 01 2018 03:19 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Let's see what Alderson inherited: Pitchers: Jacob deGrom Matt Harvey Steven Matz CY Winner RA Dickey (who he turned into Noah and Travis) Jeurys Familia Jennry Mejia (I know, but he used to be good) Bobby Parnell (also used to be good) He also inherited a productive and healthy Carlos Beltran that he turned into Zack Wheeler. Position Players: Daniel Murphy Lucas Duda David Wright Jose Reyes Justin Turner Wilmer Flores Juan Lagares We should all inherit such shitty teams.

Ceetar Oct 01 2018 03:23 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Lefty Specialist wrote: Machado wants to play shortstop, not third. Just saying. I suspect money talks, and that part of that was his desire to be more marketable. He did put in 16 games at third with the Dodgers.

d'Kong76 Oct 01 2018 03:42 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

I'm not getting sucked into big-time FA signings this off-season. I just looked at the Los Vegan odds, they list Machado to the Mets at 110-1.

Edgy MD Oct 01 2018 03:51 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Harper signs with Philadelphia. I'm calling it.

Lefty Specialist Oct 01 2018 04:58 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Edgy MD wrote: Harper signs with Philadelphia. I'm calling it. Yeah, sounds logical. He could do a lot of damage in that park and Phils are willing to spend.

Centerfield Oct 01 2018 05:00 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Edgy MD wrote: Harper signs with Philadelphia. I'm calling it. Not a bad prediction. The Braves have also shown an ability to spend, and they have a vacancy in RF with Markakis leaving. And the Dodgers and MFY's (I think) got under the cap this year, so with the re-set they can probably spend a ton. If the MFY's lose Wednesday, the might just sign every free agent this winter.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 01 2018 05:15 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Benjamin Grimm wrote: My Spidey sense tells me that the Mets are going to go after McCutchen. Too early. They'll wait another year, so that McCutchen's more diminished, and most importantly, cheaper. Cheap is as cheap does. But that's Sandy's fault. /rolls eyes.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 01 2018 05:28 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

I'd look at Machado as the guy who forces the Mets to trade Frazier. If they don;t get him, I hope they get another guy who forces them to trade Frazier.

Ceetar Oct 01 2018 05:53 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'd look at Machado as the guy who forces the Mets to trade Frazier. If they don;t get him, I hope they get another guy who forces them to trade Frazier. I'm not as worried about who the Mets should jettison (though Bruce would top that list). But if they're already probably going to trade guys to make room for other guys, there might be a different choice than Machado anyway. I mean, not really. You're not getting a better player than Machado and he's so young that he's a good bet to still be that good for a while. Hell, so much so that I almost wish the Mets had put in David Wright at third for the last inning yesterday so we could push the narrative of David Wright handing the 3B job to Machado for a decade and we pretending they were the only two to play there from 2005-2028. But I digress. Sign Machado.

d'Kong76 Oct 01 2018 10:10 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

Sign Machado. They'll window shop, in the end pop into Korvette's or a five 'n dime.

Ceetar Oct 01 2018 11:41 PM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

d'Kong76 wrote: Sign Machado. They'll window shop, in the end pop into Korvette's or a five 'n dime. we'll see. Doesn't really seem to fit the MO of the last 4 seasons but I guess the new GM will change things.

MFS62 Oct 02 2018 02:05 AM Re: Jeff Wilpon to Speak on Sunday

d'Kong76 wrote: Sign Machado. They'll window shop, in the end pop into Korvette's or a five 'n dime. Maybe they can find a Kor-Val brand catcher. Later