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Frayed Knot
Sep 09 2018 06:50 PM

Well, the Cleveland Browns kicked off their season by not losing! They went the entire OT period vs the Steelers but no one scored so it goes into the books as a 21-21 tie.
It's Cleveland's first non-loss since Christmas Eve 2016 ( to a city that isn't even in the league anymore - San Diego) and just their second un-loss since the previous December.
And in a season where even the Orioles have already won their 41st game (41-102), the Browns over their last 10 seasons have managed to wring up a sub-'62-Mets record of 38-122
Good thing the salary cap ensures parity otherwise they might really be bad.

d'Kong76
Sep 09 2018 07:46 PM
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Took a strike today with the 10+ point favored Saints losing by 8 in a
three-strike pool I'm in. Hopefully others did too. #takeapee

Frayed Knot
Sep 09 2018 08:21 PM
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In other NFL news with a tangential NYM angle, Pat Mahomes II had himself a win in his first season as starting QB for the KCC (played one game last season after being the 10th overall pick in the 2017 draft)

cooby
Sep 23 2018 05:19 PM
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Who the hell sang the Sunday night national anthem?

d'Kong76
Sep 23 2018 05:25 PM
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Strike two - Vikings, favored by 16-17 crap the bed, and lose by 21.

Frayed Knot
Sep 23 2018 05:56 PM
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And whenever a situation like that comes up someone is bound to tell you about "how the bookies are going to take a beating" on that game.
But no, as long as roughly half the money is bet on the favorite and half on the underdog (and with a lure of 17 points there's certainly plenty of incentive to bet on the dog), the bookies are going to do just fine.

It amazes me sometimes that there are so many people who bet on football yet seem to have no understanding of how betting works.

d'Kong76
Sep 23 2018 06:46 PM
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Of course! It's like the Eddie Murphy line from Trading Places,
"sounds to me like you two is a couple of bookies!"

I got burned twice three weeks in a pool where there's no line.
Lotta others too. Crumbling cookies, bbbyyy...

MFS62
Sep 24 2018 07:35 AM
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I'm guessing that Bills game killed a lot of peoples' knockout pool chances early this year.

Later

Frayed Knot
Oct 07 2018 02:30 PM
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Ooooh, Giants lose a tough one -- a 63 year FG as the clock expires!!

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 07 2018 02:44 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Ooooh, Giants lose a tough one -- a 63 year FG as the clock expires!!


That's a looooong time for the ball to be up in the air.

cooby
Oct 07 2018 03:55 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Ooooh, Giants lose a tough one -- a 63 year FG as the clock expires!!


That's a looooong time for the ball to be up in the air.

LOL Ben Grimm

Our TV coverage cut away for a commercial just as the guy kickd it! We had to go look on the computer to see what happened

Frayed Knot
Oct 07 2018 05:42 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Ooooh, Giants lose a tough one -- a 63 year FG as the clock expires!!


That's a looooong time for the ball to be up in the air.


The thing is that there was actually a second or two left on the clock as the ball sailed through the uprights so you'd think that the Giants would at least be able to receive the kickoff and hope for a miracle of their own.
But this has happened in the NFL before (including at the end of a Super Bowl) and those seconds just seem to disappear into the ether as if the clock continues to run until, I dunno, the ball stops bouncing or something.
And despite the fact that all football games, no matter how minor, are analyzed to within an inch of their lives, I've never seen it questioned or explained as to why.

Frayed Knot
Nov 13 2018 04:48 PM
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The NFL, apparently in reaction to player objections and threats of a boycott over poor field conditions, has moved this coming Monday's scheduled game between the [insert city here] Rams and the
KC Chiefs from Mexico City to Los Angeles. This is notable if only for the fact the league is used to being able to tell the players to do as they're told and shut up about it and that it probably cost them
a tidy sum of money and lost foreign marketing opportunities to pull out like this at the last minute. Sounds like maybe they took those boycott threats seriously.

MFS62
Nov 20 2018 05:35 AM
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Speaking of TV, there will be three games this Thanksgiving Day.
All six teams will be NFC teams.
I'm having a flashback from before Super Bowl III when the NFL felt the AFL was irrelevant or something to be ignored.
FU*K YOU, Pete Rozelle, and your legacy that lives on.

Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Nov 20 2018 07:13 AM
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You guys, if you didn't watch last night, you missed the absolute most fun that can be had on a football field without a pound of weed, some tasty tunes, and your longhair buddies who won't amount to nothin'.

105 total points, 3 4th-quarter lead changes (including a 13-point comeback), a couple of key 60-plus yard punts, enough bad decisions to fill a prom weekend, and the damn game MVP was a defensive lineman who scored twice.

MFS62
Nov 20 2018 07:52 AM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
You guys, if you didn't watch last night, you missed the absolute most fun that can be had on a football field without a pound of weed, some tasty tunes, and your longhair buddies who won't amount to nothin'.

105 total points, 3 4th-quarter lead changes (including a 13-point comeback), a couple of key 60-plus yard punts, enough bad decisions to fill a prom weekend, and the damn game MVP was a defensive lineman who scored twice.

It would have been more fun if KC had won.
Later

HahnSolo
Nov 20 2018 08:36 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
Speaking of TV, there will be three games this Thanksgiving Day.
All six teams will be NFC teams.
I'm having a flashback from before Super Bowl III when the NFL felt the AFL was irrelevant or something to be ignored.
FU*K YOU, Pete Rozelle, and your legacy that lives on.

Later


This isn't new. In both 2014 and 2015, all six Thanksgiving teams were from the NFC. And last year, five of the six were NFC-only.

MFS62
Nov 20 2018 08:41 AM
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HahnSolo wrote:
MFS62 wrote:
Speaking of TV, there will be three games this Thanksgiving Day.
All six teams will be NFC teams.
I'm having a flashback from before Super Bowl III when the NFL felt the AFL was irrelevant or something to be ignored.
FU*K YOU, Pete Rozelle, and your legacy that lives on.

Later


This isn't new. In both 2014 and 2015, all six Thanksgiving teams were from the NFC. And last year, five of the six were NFC-only.

I wasn't happy about it then, and I'm still not. Why not traditional rivalries from the old AFL? Denver/KC and Chargers/Raiders are always hotly contested despite the standings. I'm just sayin'.

Later

TransMonk
Nov 20 2018 09:27 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
Speaking of TV, there will be three games this Thanksgiving Day.
All six teams will be NFC teams.
I'm having a flashback from before Super Bowl III when the NFL felt the AFL was irrelevant or something to be ignored.

Or from 1984-1996. 13 years of NFC SB winners.

Also, go Rams. Me and Ty Burrell.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 20 2018 09:43 AM
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The NFL must've changed their TV contracts. CBS has the AFC. That used to mean that when CBS aired an NFL game, the road team had to be from the AFC. Not this year.

TransMonk
Nov 20 2018 10:08 AM
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FOX still primarily airs games where the NFC team is the away team and CBS where the AFC team is the away team. However, with the advent of "flexible scheduling", exceptions are allowed. From what I understand, if a matchup is flexed to the NBC Sunday night game, the network that lost the game can choose from a "non-protected" game from another network. I'm not sure of all of the rules involved (and I'm sure there are many), but there are limits to how many games can be protected.

However, with these Thanksgiving games, I'm not sure why there isn't at least one AFC team playing since these matchups were decided back in April.

The wiki page is lengthy and confusing. I'd expect nothing less from the NFL and major TV networks.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 21 2018 10:24 AM
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TransMonk wrote:


However, with these Thanksgiving games, I'm not sure why there isn't at least one AFC team playing since these matchups were decided back in April.



Not only that, but a Thursday game can't be flexed, period. So this is unusual. The CBS, (or AFC network Thanksgiving game, because years ago, NBC was the AFC network) had to have an AFC road team.

d'Kong76
Nov 21 2018 10:54 AM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
You guys, if you didn't watch last night, you missed the absolute most fun that can be had on a football field without a pound of weed, some tasty tunes, and your longhair buddies who won't amount to nothin'.

Some calling it the best regular season game ever. It's being re-aired tonight
on NFL Network if anyone is interested in DVR'ng it..

Frayed Knot
Nov 30 2018 06:11 PM
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So it seems that the NFL has acted quickly in the case of the Chiefs player who roughed up hit and kicked a woman in a hotel room earlier this year.
Acted quickly and decisively as soon as they heard about it? ... No, of course not. They acted immediately [u:35nkm576]once the video of the incident became public[/u:35nkm576].

The league, or at least the team, was previously aware of but no action appears to have been taken. But now that the video (courtesy of TMZ of course) has surfaced the player has been placed
on Double Secret Probation, or whatever it is they call the roster limbo condition that they've now assigned two players to just this week alone for incidents involving violence against women.
One can understand due process and the gathering of facts and all, but, just as in the Ray Rice situation, they're only acting after and because a public video 'makes it real' (I bet it was always real
to those on the business end of his fist and feet) and impossible to sweep under the rug and pretend it never happened.

Nymr83
Nov 30 2018 07:04 PM
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They should actually call it "The Double Secret Probation List" because its so perfect

Frayed Knot
Nov 30 2018 07:27 PM
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Nymr83 wrote:
They should actually call it "The Double Secret Probation List" because its so perfect


And, just as in the case of Dean Wormer, it's something Goodell made up out of thin air after he realized he had to do something.




oe: and now the Chiefs have cut the player - Kareem Hunt. Women beaters on the team? Sure ... as long as the public doesn't actually know about it.

I have no idea how good this guy is/has been or at what stage of his career he's currently at, but Ray Rice, who was certainly in the 'declining' phase of his career, never played in the league again
despite no criminal charges (she declined to press and subsequently married him) and a mea culpa tour which lasted longer than some political campaigns, and despite being only suspended for
like 20 minutes prior to the "discovery" of the video - and by 'discovery' I mean the league's inability to forever suppress it.

Nymr83
Nov 30 2018 08:11 PM
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Hunt is a second year player and very good. he'll play again. eventually.

TransMonk
Dec 01 2018 09:28 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
I have no idea how good this guy is/has been or at what stage of his career he's currently at...


ESPN's article on the release wrote:
Hunt led the NFL in rushing as a rookie with 1,327 yards and eight touchdowns in helping Kansas City qualify for the playoffs. This season, he has run for 824 yards and seven touchdowns in 11 games and has seven receiving touchdowns.


He is not the only (or even primary) reason the Chiefs are 9-2, but he was a big part of their offense and his running threat has contributed to QB Pat Mahomes having an MVP-type season. The Chiefs were considered one of the primary Super Bowl contenders from the AFC. It will be interesting to see how much his absense affects their offense.