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Melvin -- OUT?!?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 25 2018 03:34 PM

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Benjamin Grimm Oct 25 2018 03:37 PM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

d'Kong76 Oct 25 2018 03:42 PM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Holy crap, may have to pull some crow out of the freezer to defrost?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 25 2018 03:46 PM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

so weird

metirish Oct 25 2018 03:50 PM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Blooming hell , this whole thing has been bizarre .... I'm excited tho

Frayed Knot Oct 25 2018 05:13 PM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

And, once again, we don't know what we thought we knew.

MFS62 Oct 25 2018 05:15 PM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Frayed Knot wrote: And, once again, we don't know what we thought we knew. And I bet it won't be the last time, either. Later

Centerfield Oct 25 2018 05:45 PM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Amazing. If this is true that really is something. It it ends up being Bloom kudos to the Wilpons for going against all expectations. Can’t imagine it will be Van Wagenen.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 25 2018 05:47 PM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

BUT he's made it this far. (It's confirmed and on the MLB site/app, by the by.)

41Forever Oct 25 2018 06:32 PM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Some columnist will soon spin this as “LOLMets, not even Melvin would work for the Wilpons!”

d'Kong76 Oct 25 2018 06:35 PM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Frayed Knot wrote: And, once again, we don't know what we thought we knew. I know defrosted crow tastes better than even fresh seagull. I'll have crow tacos if and when Bloom is announced.

Lefty Specialist Oct 26 2018 06:13 AM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Damn, I'll have to return that Melvin jersey I bought at Modell's. I'll be having one of those crow tacos too. Melvin just made too much sense from a Wilpon perspective.

Edgy MD Oct 26 2018 07:22 AM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Folks be sayin' the same thing about Bob Geren as manager this time last year. Predicting Wilpons. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

Centerfield Oct 26 2018 07:55 AM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Wait a second, let me be clear. If Bloom gets hired, no one gets to eat crow before me. I've been saying for over a week that Melvin was a done deal. In fact, I said it's Melvin and the rest of the candidates are just a sham interview process. So when I'm done with my heaping portion of crow, then yous other guys can get a turn. I've had some time to let this process. A few thoughts: 1. It's possible that Fred had, in fact, decided on Melvin earlier this week. It wasn't just one guy that called him the favorite. It was widely reported. But then he saw the overwhelming reaction and was convinced to go in a different direction. Or, it's possible that he was inclined to go with Melvin, leaked it to gauge reaction, and was like "Holy fuck, I can't hire this guy." Or, all the reports were just wrong. I guess we'll never know. But if we end up with Bloom, I'd like to believe that the process led to the right decision, rather than ending up with the right guy by accident. 2. If it ends up being BVW, I have no idea how to react. I don't think I have considered any of the agent candidates are serious contenders. I don't know if he's into analytics, or if he has any scouting experience, or if he knows anything about how to set up a trade, etc. I mean, if this is a job interview, and one guy just built a team that exceeded all expectations and is widely respected in your industry, and the other guy has no experience, you kinda go with choice 1 no? I mean, BVW could end up being great in the end. But how can we possibly know? And all kidding aside, what does it mean if we end up having to negotiate those deGrom/Syndergaard extensions with the guy we just spurned?

Benjamin Grimm Oct 26 2018 07:58 AM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

My fear is that, needing a new agent, both Syndergaard and deGrom end up with Scott Boras.

Centerfield Oct 26 2018 08:01 AM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: My fear is that, needing a new agent, both Syndergaard and deGrom end up with Scott Boras. Don't think Scott hasn't taken notice. “The Boras Corporation stands for a total commitment to players, and while I have been offered many opportunities with teams, I would never violate the trust that I have with any player and that is very important to what I do,” Boras said. “I am an attorney and I want [players] to tell me everything and a lot of these things are confidential, they are personal, and if I went to work for a different employer, I would have to divulge all that information because I have to do my job for that other employer I made a commitment to.” https://nypost.com/2018/10/22/agents-ar ... gm-option/ I hate to say it, but I think Boras is right.

41Forever Oct 26 2018 08:25 AM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

The Pistons did something kind of similar it hired agent Arn Tellem for a front office post. [url]https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2018/07/05/arn-tellem-helps-rebuilding-detroit-pistons-and-downtown-detroit/759608002/

Edgy MD Oct 26 2018 08:42 AM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Yes, that's my concern. BVW has proprietary information about what it will take to tie his clients down. I don't know that it's possible, but if I was deGrom's next agent, I'd insist BVW recuse himself from negotiations with his his former clients, and keep all client information to himself.

Centerfield Oct 26 2018 08:46 AM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Edgy MD wrote: Yes, that's my concern. BVW has proprietary information about what it will take to tie his clients down. I don't know that it's possible, but if I was deGrom's next agent, I'd insist BVW recuse himself from negotiations with his his former clients, and keep all client information to himself. It shouldn't even be a question. The agent is the player's fiduciary. A fiduciary cannot go sit on the other side of the table. It's a clear conflict. And one that's not even waivable.

HahnSolo Oct 26 2018 08:55 AM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Rob Pelinka is the current GM of the Lakers; he had been a player agent for about a decade. There are a number of his former clients still in the league, but I don't know how future potential negotiations with those players would be handled.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 26 2018 08:59 AM Re: Melvin -- OUT?!?

Edgy MD wrote: Yes, that's my concern. BVW has proprietary information about what it will take to tie his clients down. I don't know that it's possible, but if I was deGrom's next agent, I'd insist BVW recuse himself from negotiations with his his former clients, and keep all client information to himself. Yeah, that'll happen. Also, Donald Trump never discusses his businesses with his kids, who are running the alleged blind trust that holds the president's business interests.