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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Def leppard

5 votes

Devo

12 votes

Janet Jackson

3 votes

John Prine

6 votes

Kraftwerk

11 votes

LL Cool J

2 votes

MC5

1 votes

Radiohead

10 votes

Rage Against the Machine

3 votes

Roxy Music

8 votes

Stevie Nicks

2 votes

The Cure

4 votes

Todd Rundgren

9 votes

Rufas and Chaka Kahn

2 votes

teh Zombies

5 votes

41Forever Oct 09 2018 01:49 PM

Early Tuesday (Oct. 9) morning, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame announced the nominees for induction into the 2019 Rock Hall class. Def Leppard, Devo, Janet Jackson, John Prine, Kraftwerk, LL Cool J, MC5, Radiohead, Rage Against the Machine, Roxy Music, Stevie Nicks, the Cure, Todd Rundgren, Rufus & Chaka Kahn and the Zombies are all potentially up for induction at the March 29, 2019, ceremony in Brooklyn, NY, at Barclays Center. Excuse the typos in the poll!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 09 2018 01:57 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Devo Prine Roxy Rundgren --Kraftwerk? The first 4 belong; the hoi polloi will support DefLep and Stevie.

d'Kong76 Oct 09 2018 02:06 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Here we go again. Janet Jackson jajajajaja

Edgy MD Oct 09 2018 02:11 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I didn't vote for the Hoi Polloi! Tough ballot, and not in a good way, but it's certainly past time to see Rundgren appear. They took care of some of my pet cases last year with The Cars and Sister Rosetta Tharpe, so while I made five selections, The Hermit of Mink Hollow is the only one I'm ready to go to the mat for. Prine is an interesting nominee, if it indicates a greater open-ness to country-leaning rockers. Maybe he (and Linda Ronstadt) will open up the door for Emmylou Harris and Steve Earle and John Hiatt, all of whom I'd probably put ahead of him.

sharpie Oct 09 2018 02:15 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

The four Rs: Radiohead, Rundgren, Roxy Music, Rage Against the Machine Also Kraftwerk After Roxy Music Devo probably the nominee closest to my heart and I do enjoy John Prine but the others should go in before them. i don't like it that I'm voting for an all white ticket. If Janet Jackson gets in I won't complain.

Vic Sage Oct 09 2018 02:45 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Devo John Prine Radiohead Roxy Music Rundgren If i had a 6th vote, it'd go for the original goth chick vocalist, Stevie Nicks. But she's already in the RRHOF with Fleetwood Mac and doesn't really deserve a 2nd appearance for her solo career.

Edgy MD Oct 09 2018 02:58 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I'd argue that Siouxsie Sioux predates Stevie in gothness, if not in recording, but actually, Ann Radcliffe is the original goth chick.

Vic Sage Oct 09 2018 03:11 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Edgy MD wrote: I'd argue that Siouxsie Sioux predates Stevie in gothness, if not in recording, but actually, Ann Radcliffe is the original goth chick. The Fleetwood Mac and Rumours albums had both came out before Siouxsie's recording career started. As for Ms. Radcliffe, I bow to your infinite jest.

Frayed Knot Oct 09 2018 03:11 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

No Huey Lewis and the News AGAIN!?!?!?!? That's it, I'm boycotting! That Prine has a recent album out probably helps his case. Agree that Stevie's solo career doesn't seem to add up to additional enshrinement.

TransMonk Oct 09 2018 03:23 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Devo John Prine Radiohead Roxy Music Todd Rundgren

Edgy MD Oct 09 2018 03:37 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I was happy to vote for Chaka Kahn in previous years, but Rufus & Chaka Kahn seems to have a pretty contained legacy, though a peek at Wikipedia suggests it's more substantial than I thought. I kind of put them and The MC5 in a similar category in that each has one iconic, sublime, and unimpeachable record that everybody knows, everybody who thinks about it loves, nobody gets sick of, and doesn't really sound like anything else. Rufus had a longer run, but the MC5 had a more consistent lineup in their prime. In the end, both had a lot of turnover, particularly in the rhythm section. Hey, you want to hear a great solo record? This killer track comes from the MC5's guitarist and only permanent member, Wayne Kramer. [youtube:2un56g0z]Um8eUPo2Z7I[/youtube:2un56g0z]

smg58 Oct 09 2018 03:45 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Devo and Kraftwerk were too influential to not be included. Stevie Nicks didn't have nearly enough of a solo career. Hard to believe Radiohead has been around long enough to qualify, but I can't think of any band post-grunge who has had more sustained influence and popularity. I grudgingly accepted Journey, I tolerated Bon Jovi, but Def Leppard? I'm drawing the line. I feel that the world owes Janet Jackson an apology -- the Super Bowl happily invited Justin Timberlake back despite his participation in the same event that destroyed her career -- but I never really liked anything of hers.

41Forever Oct 09 2018 05:30 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I don't have an issue with Def Leppard being in there. Once you open the door to Heart, Joan Jett and Journey, you might as well welcome in Def Leppard, Styx and Foreigner. As for Janet Jackson, I'd rather have Joe Jackson in there. I always wonder if she was more of a creation of Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, but that's probably not fair. She certainly did have a period with some awesome songs! I like "Escapade." I think Stevie's solo stuff is different enough from her main gig. I don't think "Stand Back" or "Edge of Seventeen" would appear on a Fleetwood Mac album. But I don't think it's strong enough to merit a solo induction.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 09 2018 07:01 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

yeah, def leppard sucks.

Frayed Knot Oct 09 2018 07:04 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

41Forever wrote: I don't have an issue with Def Leppard being in there. Once you open the door to Heart, Joan Jett and Journey, you might as well welcome in Def Leppard, Styx and Foreigner. That sentence is in the dictionary as the definition of 'Slippery Slope'

d'Kong76 Oct 09 2018 07:20 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I took Devo, Kraftwerk, Rudgren, The Cure and Radiohead...

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 09 2018 07:26 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Frayed Knot wrote: 41Forever wrote: I don't have an issue with Def Leppard being in there. Once you open the door to Heart, Joan Jett and Journey, you might as well welcome in Def Leppard, Styx and Foreigner. That sentence is in the dictionary as the definition of 'Slippery Slope' I think one can make a case for the first 3, and not for the next 3 Jett and Heart were pioneers; Journey paid dues, had 2 top players, and eventually scored a worldwide "forever" kind of hit. The next 3 were pretty much 2nd rate rockers

Edgy MD Oct 09 2018 07:53 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Two of the next three were second-rate. Foreigner, 42 years down the road, is still looking up at second rate. Hey, let's pull nominees out of our asses! Acts that nobody particularly thinks of, but hey, a case can be made! Like ... They Might Be Giants!

41Forever Oct 09 2018 08:44 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Edgy MD wrote: Foreigner, 42 years down the road, is still looking up at second rate. I like Foreigner! A heck of a lot better than Heart.

Frayed Knot Oct 09 2018 08:53 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: 41Forever wrote: I don't have an issue with Def Leppard being in there. Once you open the door to Heart, Joan Jett and Journey, you might as well welcome in Def Leppard, Styx and Foreigner. That sentence is in the dictionary as the definition of 'Slippery Slope' I think one can make a case for the first 3, and not for the next 3 Jett and Heart were pioneers; Journey paid dues, had 2 top players, and eventually scored a worldwide "forever" kind of hit. The next 3 were pretty much 2nd rate rockers Which is pretty much my point, that once you start the 'if X is in then why not Y?' argument it becomes a slow march to the bottom.

smg58 Oct 10 2018 11:51 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Edgy MD wrote: Like ... They Might Be Giants! Here Comes Science is the best children's record ever. And it rocks, although I'm not sure that matters anymore.

Edgy MD Oct 10 2018 12:14 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Make your own call, man. If it matters to you, it matters. Pull a nominee out of your ass while you're at it.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 10 2018 01:11 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: 41Forever wrote: I don't have an issue with Def Leppard being in there. Once you open the door to Heart, Joan Jett and Journey, you might as well welcome in Def Leppard, Styx and Foreigner. That sentence is in the dictionary as the definition of 'Slippery Slope' I think one can make a case for the first 3, and not for the next 3 Jett and Heart were pioneers; Journey paid dues, had 2 top players, and eventually scored a worldwide "forever" kind of hit. The next 3 were pretty much 2nd rate rockers Which is pretty much my point, that once you start the 'if X is in then why not Y?' argument it becomes a slow march to the bottom. Exactly. I guess you're not allowed to fix your mistakes. Tony Perez is in the Hall so that means they gotta let in Robin Ventura too and eventually Wayne Garrett. Can't overrule Plessy v Ferguson either. Def Leppard and Styx. Cheeseball Heaven. Oh my. Anyways, this is the cheeseball era of the R&R HOF. Counting Crows anyone? Remember when the ballots had Cream and Zeppelin and Little Richard and Pink Floyd? Now youse are arguing over Def Leppard and Foreigner. What a bringdown.

cooby Oct 10 2018 01:22 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

None of them Though I do love some of Todd Rundgren's stuff. I also hate some of Todd Rundgren's stuff

41Forever Oct 10 2018 01:38 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Edgy MD wrote: Like ... They Might Be Giants! My fave They Might Be Giants song. I have an iPod playlist of New York songs, and this is one of the best. Technically it's a cover of a song from a band from Vancouver. But I like the New York references. [youtube]dSS_ty5o7x4[/youtube]

Edgy MD Oct 10 2018 02:02 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

cooby wrote: None of them Though I do love some of Todd Rundgren's stuff. I also hate some of Todd Rundgren's stuff That certainly makes sense, as the guy has been a high-risk player his whole career. But most acts in the HoF have more misses than hits, and in the end, most have more misses than Rundgren. Really, you can vote for him on his legacy as a producer alone.

RealityChuck Oct 11 2018 12:38 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

It's a very weak field this year. No clear choices (even Devo doesn't really feel like they belong, though I chose them). Most here had only minor impact -- none had the years of major success you expect to see. John Prine is an interesting choice, but he's more country than rock and if him, why not Loudon Wainwright III?

cooby Oct 11 2018 06:03 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I think they’ve reached the bottom of the barrel and there is no argument for these candidates or any future ones. Rock and roll has truly ended why you are arguing for or against anybody at this point is beyond me

MFS62 Oct 11 2018 07:52 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

And still no Pat Benatar. Later

d'Kong76 Oct 11 2018 08:27 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

And the meek shall inherit the earth... [youtube:31mwelrt]w5jwxrTqoEA[/youtube:31mwelrt]

Edgy MD Oct 11 2018 09:38 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I don't think rock 'n' roll has ended. It just lost it's dominant market position. But there's still ... for instance ... umm ... Jeremy & the Harlequins. [youtube:1trf6ucr]9ilM05383kk[/youtube:1trf6ucr]

Chad Ochoseis Oct 11 2018 09:57 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 11 2018 10:42 PM

I think they’ve reached the bottom of the barrel and there is no argument for these candidates or any future ones. Rock and roll has truly ended You require a minimum of five acts to go in every year, you're gonna run out of good acts sometime. It took 33 years. The one group that I'm regularly shocked isn't in yet is Jethro Tull. Maybe not the best band ever, but innovative, influential in both metal and prog rock, not derivative, and commercially successful. Do the Rock Hall Gods hate prog rock that much? And I guess Pat Benatar has a case. Kate Bush has a stronger one. If you're going to open the door to Bob Marley and Jimmy Cliff, why not Peter Tosh and Toots and the Maytals? Midnight Oil deserves to get on a ballot, at least. John Prine is easily my favorite artist on this year's ballot, but rock? Really? John Prine doesn't rock. I get that there are a whole lot of non-rockers in the rock hall, but they're mainly soul, funk, disco, and reggae. Keep those genres out, and you're left with the White Boys Music Hall of Fame. I'm not sure the Rock Hall needs John Prine, and I'm certain John Prine doesn't need the Rock Hall. But I'd think about voting for him. And Devo. And Kraftwerk, I guess. I've been trying to figure out who's still ineligible but likely to go in at some point in the future. Wilco's eligible next year, and they should be a shoe-in. After that, I dunno. Eminem. Jay-Z. Beyonce. And then I'm at a loss. When they induct Katy Perry, it'll be time to just close the place down and convert it to condos. OE - Two more words: Harry Nilsson.

d'Kong76 Oct 11 2018 10:05 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Midnight Oil, duh! Another example that it's all a sham.

HahnSolo Oct 12 2018 05:53 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Chad Ochoseis wrote: I've been trying to figure out who's still ineligible but likely to go in at some point in the future. Wilco's eligible next year, and they should be a shoe-in. After that, I dunno. Eminem. Jay-Z. Beyonce. And then I'm at a loss. When they induct Katy Perry, it'll be time to just close the place down and convert it to condos. Foo Fighters are eligible next year. Like 'em or not, I would think they're a lock.

41Forever Oct 12 2018 06:10 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I think people can make a case for: Pat Benatar Phil Collins Bad Company Doobie Brothers Duran Duran Foreigner Peter Frampton Grass Roots Guess Who Humble Pie Iron Maiden (Metal is so under-represented) Jethro Tull Judas Priest Cyndi Lauper Motorhead New York Dolls Harry Nillson The Replacements Diana Ross Steve Winwood Warren Zevon

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 12 2018 06:34 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Joe Jackson, Warren Zevon, Midnight Oil ought to be in. Some of the above list I could see, but. Someone go ahead and make the Grass Roots case. Really?

seawolf17 Oct 12 2018 06:52 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Yeah, I've never even heard of Grass Roots. But I could see any or all of the others. Heck, I'm surprised to learn that some of them aren't in there already.

Edgy MD Oct 12 2018 07:13 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I was just thinking yesterday of bands in the Classick Rock canon who I can't name one song by, and I came up with two: Grass Roots and Ten Years After. If you played me their signature song, I'm sure I'd recognize it, but I can't name it off the top of my petrified head. You know who isn't in? Solo Ozzy isn't in.

41Forever Oct 12 2018 07:28 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Edgy MD wrote: I was just thinking yesterday of bands in the Classick Rock canon who I can't name one song by, and I came up with two: Grass Roots and Ten Years After. If you played me their signature song, I'm sure I'd recognize it, but I can't name it off the top of my petrified head. You know who isn't in? Solo Ozzy isn't in. Grass Roots had a series of big hits in the early 1970s, including “Midnight Confessions” “Sooner or Later” “Two Divided by Love” and “Temptation Eyes.” You know “Midnight Confessions” for sure. I can post a video later. Joe Jackson should be in there for sure!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 12 2018 07:44 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Yabbut shirley four AM/FM semi-hits in the middle of klassik rawk's greatest era, is not nearly enough to merit inclusion along with contemporaries. What did they do to merit enshrinement?

batmagadanleadoff Oct 12 2018 08:01 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Let's let this guy in. He had a monster hit. [youtube:9d73yobl]fpK_Ext2AeI[/youtube:9d73yobl] Grass Roots? If them, then you gotta admit the Strawberry Alarm Clock. This is so stupid. What the hell is the R&R HOF? A place for bands that had a hit or a place for the truly greatest acts -- the Tom Seavers and Mickey Mantles of the genre?

batmagadanleadoff Oct 12 2018 08:14 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Edgy MD wrote: I was just thinking yesterday of bands in the Classick Rock canon who I can't name one song by, and I came up with ... Ten Years After. If you played me their signature song, I'm sure I'd recognize it, but I can't name it off the top of my petrified head. Here they are. TYA's breakout performance at Woodstock. They brought down the house. And then, their biggest studio hit. [youtube]bW5M5xljdCI[/youtube] [youtube]ZyaFeDlJJAk[/youtube] Want my opinion of Alvin Lee? I'm glad you asked. I think he's the most overrated of the so called blues influenced electric guitar gods of that era. He sounds great on any particular song until you start listening to the entire TYA canon; then you realize how repetitive and unimaginative he is.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 12 2018 08:24 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

The Class of '95: Al Green Janis Joplin Led Zeppelin Martha & the Vandellas Neil Young Frank Zappa

41Forever Oct 12 2018 08:24 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yabbut shirley four AM/FM semi-hits in the middle of klassik rawk's greatest era, is not nearly enough to merit inclusion along with contemporaries. What did they do to merit enshrinement? Was just one of about 20 names I threw out there for discussion.

HahnSolo Oct 12 2018 08:33 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Didn't they start inducting singles and albums recently? Maybe as the field of worthy artists dwindles, we'll see more of an emphasis on annual song/album nominees.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 12 2018 08:36 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Steve Winwood' solo career? Isn't that just piling onto his Spencer Davis/Traffic/Blind Faith canon? If he never made a single record until he went solo, his solo stuff probably wouldn't be half as popular as it is.

Edgy MD Oct 12 2018 09:11 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

41Forever wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yabbut shirley four AM/FM semi-hits in the middle of klassik rawk's greatest era, is not nearly enough to merit inclusion along with contemporaries. What did they do to merit enshrinement? Was just one of about 20 names I threw out there for discussion. Yeah, man, I asked everyone to pull one un-nominated candidate out of their ass, and he pooed enough for everybody.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 12 2018 09:38 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Nick Lowe

d'Kong76 Oct 12 2018 09:47 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Ronnie James Dio

41Forever Oct 12 2018 10:17 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Edgy MD wrote: 41Forever wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yabbut shirley four AM/FM semi-hits in the middle of klassik rawk's greatest era, is not nearly enough to merit inclusion along with contemporaries. What did they do to merit enshrinement? Was just one of about 20 names I threw out there for discussion. Yeah, man, I asked everyone to pull one un-nominated candidate out of their ass, and he pooed enough for everybody. Sorry. Got a little carried away. Didn't see a lot of folks stepping up.

Edgy MD Oct 12 2018 11:00 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

You did good. Bring it on. Rockpile. Echo & the Bunnymen. Wings. Los Lobos. Glenn Fuckin' Campbell. Lenny Kravitz. Matthew Sweet. Marshall Crenshaw. Emmylou Harris. Billy Preston. Jonathan Richman. NRBQ. Phil Ochs. Jesse Colin Young. The Beat. Billy Bragg. The B-52's(!). Violent Femmes. Fishbone. Crazy-Ass Sinéad O'Connor. Patsy Cline. Iggy solo without the Stooges. I could be wrong, but I don't think there's one nomination among these acts. The problem isn't that the pool is shallow. It's that the curators don't know what they stand for.

d'Kong76 Oct 12 2018 11:39 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Dating myself, but Sister Bertrille could wield an ax with the best of them...

41Forever Oct 12 2018 11:49 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I'd forgotten that the B-52s were not in there! I don't think the Hall knows what to do with 1980s new wave yet. The Cars and Blondie are in, but not Depeche Mode, Eurythmics, OMitD, Human League...

Edgy MD Oct 12 2018 12:15 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

d'Kong76 wrote: Dating myself, but Sister Bertrille could wield an ax with the best of them... That's the rub. When you're in love with a nun, you've GOT to date yourself.

d'Kong76 Oct 12 2018 12:59 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Hah, we'll played sir!

Vic Sage Oct 12 2018 02:45 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Edgy MD wrote: cooby wrote: None of them Though I do love some of Todd Rundgren's stuff. I also hate some of Todd Rundgren's stuff That certainly makes sense, as the guy has been a high-risk player his whole career. But most acts in the HoF have more misses than hits, and in the end, most have more misses than Rundgren. Really, you can vote for him on his legacy as a producer alone. he produced BAT OUT OF HELL and played the motorcycle guitar instrumental in the title song. That fact alone is sufficient for HOF induction.

Ashie62 Oct 15 2018 05:48 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Def Leopard, Devo, Kraftwerk and the EPIC Roxy Music

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 15 2018 06:13 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

someone needs to make a case for Def Leppard. I can't think of anything they did that's not complete artificial crap. They were so fake they didn't even need a drummer. I mean wtf

Ashie62 Oct 15 2018 07:47 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Def Leppard. Body of work as the icon of 80's metal glam. Crue, Poison etc. Not my type of rock n roll but I punched that ballot for them. Roxy, Fripp, Ferry, Eno, Manzanera. Elton John ripped them off, Bowie also

Edgy MD Oct 15 2018 07:57 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

The weird thing about Leppard is they were clever in that they released an album every four years. Whoever was 14 at that time insists THAT was the great Def Leppard album. Like me. If you put a gun to my head, I'd tell you that High 'n' Dry was their best record. Everything else sounds more like product than music to me. I say that reluctantly, knowing that Seawolf may one day kill me in sleep, but I say it nonetheless.

Edgy MD Oct 15 2018 07:58 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

The weird thing about Leppard is they were clever in that they released an album every four years. Whoever was 14 at that time insists THAT was the great Def Leppard album. Like me. If you put a gun to my head, I'd tell you that High 'n' Dry was their best record. Everything else sounds more like product than music to me. I say that reluctantly, knowing that Seawolf may one day kill me in sleep, but I say it nonetheless.

seawolf17 Oct 16 2018 06:26 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Edgy MD wrote: The weird thing about Leppard is they were clever in that they released an album every four years. Whoever was 14 at that time insists THAT was the great Def Leppard album. Like me. If you put a gun to my head, I'd tell you that High 'n' Dry was their best record. Everything else sounds more like product than music to me. I say that reluctantly, knowing that Seawolf may one day kill me in sleep, but I say it nonetheless. Def Lep's first four (five, sort of) records are the standard-bearers for what became hair metal. There's plenty of drivel that followed, like in every genre. Every hair metal record, good or bad, spawned out of Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, or Motley Crue. I'd put those three (and GNR) in the Hall.

Fman99 Oct 16 2018 09:49 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Edgy MD wrote: The weird thing about Leppard is they were clever in that they released an album every four years. Whoever was 14 at that time insists THAT was the great Def Leppard album. Like me. If you put a gun to my head, I'd tell you that High 'n' Dry was their best record. Everything else sounds more like product than music to me. I say that reluctantly, knowing that Seawolf may one day kill me in sleep, but I say it nonetheless. That's funny to me, only because their biggest album Hysteria came out when I was exactly 14. And I played the hell out of it. But I also, still, think that Pyromania is better. Having said that, they came up here and played at our shiny awesome outdoor venue two summers ago and they put on a fantastic show.

Ashie62 Oct 24 2018 09:08 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Jethro Tull. Oops

metirish Dec 13 2018 07:29 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

And seven get in The Cure Def Leppard Janet Jackson Stevie Nick's Radiohead Roxy Music The Zombies

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 13 2018 08:37 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

jesus

Mets Willets Point Dec 13 2018 09:24 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

metirish wrote: And seven get in The Cure Def Leppard Janet Jackson Stevie Nick's Radiohead Roxy Music The Zombies These seem like no brainers for the most part even if I'm not a particularly big fan of most of them. I would question whether Nicks' work apart from Fleetwood Mac is worth enshrinement, and The Zombies had a few good songs but were neither innovative nor enduring.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 13 2018 09:31 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I think it's been scientifically proven that Def Leppard sucks, that Janet Jackson wouldn't stand a chance were it not for her famous brother, that Stevie Nicks solo material is pretty much well-sung garbage and that nobody really cares about the Zombies

seawolf17 Dec 13 2018 09:32 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I can't name a single song by the Zombies, but I will fight you on Def Leppard.

41Forever Dec 13 2018 09:48 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

seawolf17 wrote: I can't name a single song by the Zombies, but I will fight you on Def Leppard. You know this one! [youtube]qzpPy9hJYA8[/youtube]

sharpie Dec 13 2018 11:25 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Roxy Music was, IMO, the most deserving act not in the R&RHOF. Radiohead and the Zombies I also approve of. Janet Jackson, well, she sold a lot of records. Stevie Nicks solo is a ridiculous pick. I don't care for Def Leppard or the Cure but if Seawolf endorses DL I will defer to his judgment on metal bands.

G-Fafif Dec 13 2018 07:16 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

The real surprise here was Harold Baines.

Frayed Knot Dec 13 2018 07:59 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 13 2018 08:00 PM

A couple of voters got Harold Baines and the White Sox confused with Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes and that screwed up everything. [youtube:3ri8uw25]nbaSh8i5eyE[/youtube:3ri8uw25]

Mets Willets Point Dec 13 2018 07:59 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

G-Fafif wrote: The real surprise here was Harold Baines. Why, he did have a lot of big hits?

d'Kong76 Dec 13 2018 08:10 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Good for The Cure, for some time they were much bigger world-wide than many of the acts in the RaRHoF ever were... [youtube:343eyt7c]hXCKLJGLENs[/youtube:343eyt7c]

Edgy MD Dec 14 2018 07:39 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Stevie Nicks will be the first female two-time inductee. Not Diana Ross. Not Tina Turner. Not Mavis Staples. Not Joan Jett or Linda Ronstadt or Carole King or Marilyn F. McCoo. Stevie. The roster of Cure members to make it is broad and a little weird: Perry Bamonte, Jason Cooper, Michael Dempsey, Simon Gallup, Roger O'Donnell, Robert Smith, Porl Thompson, Lol Tolhurst, and Boris Williams. The last five are un-impeachably part of the band's peak period, but the first three include a guy from the very early years, a keyboardist who didn't join until the early nineties, and their fourth drummer, who didn't join until the mid-nineties. But Bruce Johnston is still on the outside looking in, despite 95 years with the Beach Boys.

TransMonk Dec 14 2018 08:23 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I'm OK with all of the inductees except for Nicks. I agree with Edgy that there are plenty of other more deserving women to be inducted for their solo careers. Def Leppard sucks, but I remember songs from Hysteria being blasted from damn near every open car window for about 18 months when I was in junior high.

Mets Willets Point Dec 14 2018 08:29 AM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Edgy MD wrote: Not Diana Ross. Not Tina Turner. Not Mavis Staples. Not Joan Jett or Linda Ronstadt or Carole King or Marilyn F. McCoo. They have a serious woman problem. Ross, Turner, and King seem the most glaring examples as none of them are recognized for their solo careers as performers. Have they ever been nominated?

Frayed Knot Dec 14 2018 01:17 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 14 2018 03:16 PM

Roxy Music is the one act here that was on my radar during their career. Well I guess Nicks was too but I think of her almost exclusively as part of FM and would never have even considered her solo career as remotely HoF worthy. I'm not necessarily against any of the others, just more or less indifferent to and/or unfamiliar with them. Nothing much here to make me even tune into the eventual televised version of the ceremony when that comes out.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 14 2018 01:50 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I just yesterday remarked that nobody cares about The Zombies, only to encounter the excellent THIS WILL BE OUR YEAR playing over the closing credits of a MRS MAISEL episode we watched last night. MRS MAISEL btw is the fucking greatest. Season 2 is better than season 1, we hoovered it up in no time. [youtube:2f0j43k7]FmuswTEGF-U[/youtube:2f0j43k7]

Mets Willets Point Dec 14 2018 02:01 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I think the thing about the Zombies is that they had only two albums and five songs that charted. Regardless of good or bad they are, it's a small sample to make a Hall of Fame case for.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 14 2018 02:51 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

Oh fer sure

Ashie62 Dec 14 2018 03:28 PM Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2019 nominations

I got Roxy and Def Leppard. Two bands the could not be anymore different. Bryan Ferry did a solo disc 1977? called "The Bride Stripped Bare." Ferry may be a fart, but it kicks