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Let Us Scrutinize the Possible Outcomes of Andrew Miller

Edgy MD
Nov 07 2018 10:10 AM

He's been mentioned in other threads. Lefty who can close but isn't a brand name closer, coming off a poor season, did well under Callaway in Cleveland, has a Yankee taint.

Like many late-inning lefties, he does a good job keeping the ball in the park, but has been known to walk a few.

smg58
Nov 07 2018 12:29 PM
Re: Let Us Scrutinize the Possible Outcomes of Andrew Miller

He has family in Fort Pierce FL, one town north of Port St. Lucie. He'd be a very popular addition down there. As for up here... he's definitely somebody I'd look at, although I haven't zeroed in on anybody in particular for the pen yet.

Lefty Specialist
Nov 07 2018 01:47 PM
Re: Let Us Scrutinize the Possible Outcomes of Andrew Miller

Worth kicking the tires.

Edgy MD
Nov 07 2018 03:39 PM
Re: Let Us Scrutinize the Possible Outcomes of Andrew Miller

smg58 wrote:
He has family in Fort Pierce FL, one town north of Port St. Lucie. He'd be a very popular addition down there..

I tend to put stock in this stuff. When the difference is big money, you'd think it wouldn't matter much what backwater the team trains in. But I correctly predicted that Rick Ankiel would ultimately be a Met, although he never got to St. Lucie as one.

MFS62
Nov 08 2018 05:46 AM
Re: Let Us Scrutinize the Possible Outcomes of Andrew Miller

I'd be all in on this.
He's not a typical lefty (LOOGY) reliever. He can close, set-up and pitch multiple innings - (big) IF he's handled properly and given rest when needed.

Later

Centerfield
Nov 08 2018 07:55 AM
Re: Let Us Scrutinize the Possible Outcomes of Andrew Miller

The team needs a minimum of two relief pitchers. I think they need one guy from the Kimbrel club of "closers" (Kimbrel, Familia, Robertson, etc).

And then one guy from the second tier. (Miller, Britton, etc). I think this second guy should be left-handed.

I'm fine with Miller so long as we are not expecting him to return to form and be our closer. He is what he is at this point.

I guess I have a particular concern about the Mickey Calloway system. Brian Shaw also had that "He can pitch multiple innings" label. And then he got a big contract and his arm fell off. Miller was used in that same way, and we may be seeing the beginnings of a decline.

At home, we saw the innings rack up for Gsellman and Lugo. The fear that the Calloway system can work in the short term, but over time, it does damage on a pitcher's health.

seawolf17
Nov 08 2018 08:06 AM
Re: Let Us Scrutinize the Possible Outcomes of Andrew Miller

MFS62 wrote:
(big) IF he's handled properly and given rest when needed.

May 14, 2019
BREAKING: Mets LHP Andrew Miller, who has pitched in 40 of the team's first 45 games, will miss the rest of the season because his arm fell off.

Ceetar
Nov 08 2018 08:13 AM
Re: Let Us Scrutinize the Possible Outcomes of Andrew Miller

seawolf17 wrote:
(big) IF he's handled properly and given rest when needed.

May 14, 2019
BREAKING: Mets LHP Andrew Miller, who has pitched in 40 of the team's first 45 games, will miss the rest of the season because his arm fell off.


in order, Miller's best pitching comes on Zero days rest, 4 days rest, 1 days rest, 2, 6+,3,5.

His 'average' falls between the 6 and the 3. So he's actually worse than his norm on 3 and 5 days rest.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Nov 08 2018 09:02 AM
Re: Let Us Scrutinize the Possible Outcomes of Andrew Miller

Centerfield wrote:
I'm fine with Miller so long as we are not expecting him to return to form and be our closer. He is what he is at this point.


IS he, though? And is that "second tier?" I mean, one season blemished by patellar tendinitis doesn't wipe out a previous 5-6 with CRAZY effectiveness over multiple inning-plus stints (predating any Callaway involvement). I mean, provided he passes a medical, I'd probably take this guy over any of the Kimbrel gang.