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2019 Hall of Fame ballot

I VOTED (PLEASE SELECT THIS REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU VOTE FOR)

22 votes

Rick Ankiel (first year)

0 votes

Jason Bay (first year)

0 votes

Lance Berkman (first year)

3 votes

Barry Bonds (7th year, 56.4% in 2018)

13 votes

Roger Clemens (7th year, 57.3%)

8 votes

Freddy Garcia (first year)

0 votes

Jon Garland (first year)

0 votes

Travis Hafner (first year)

0 votes

Roy Halladay (first year)

16 votes

Todd Helton (first year)

7 votes

Andruw Jones (2nd year, 7.3%)

4 votes

Jeff Kent (6th year, 14.5%)

9 votes

Ted Lilly (first year)

0 votes

Derek Lowe (first year)

0 votes

Edgar Martinez (10th year, 70.4%)

12 votes

Fred McGriff (10th year, 23.2%)

3 votes

Mike Mussina (6th year, 63.5%)

11 votes

Darren Oliver (first year)

0 votes

Roy Oswalt (first year)

1 votes

Andy Pettitte (first year)

0 votes

Juan Pierre (first year)

0 votes

Placido Polanco (first year)

0 votes

Manny Ramirez (3rd year, 22%)

11 votes

Mariano Rivera (first year)

18 votes

Scott Rolen (2nd year, 10.2%)

3 votes

Curt Schilling (6th year, 51.2%)

10 votes

Gary Sheffield (5th year, 11.1%)

4 votes

Sammy Sosa (7th year, 7.8%)

3 votes

Miguel Tejada (first year)

1 votes

Omar Vizquel (2nd year, 37.1%)

6 votes

Billy Wagner (4th year, 11.1%)

4 votes

Larry Walker (9th year, 34.1%)

15 votes

Vernon Wells (first year)

0 votes

Kevin Youkilis (first year)

0 votes

Michael Young (first year)

0 votes

seawolf17 Nov 19 2018 11:39 AM

...announced today. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 056114002/ You can vote for up to ten. PLEASE VOTE FOR "I VOTED" IN ADDITION TO YOUR VOTES so we can try to get a percentage. (This never works, but we always try.)

bmfc1 Nov 20 2018 05:00 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Holy crap, it's gonna be a Rivera suck-fest when the votes are announced and again at induction. Neither side of the newspaper is going to be safe for viewing.

seawolf17 Nov 20 2018 07:22 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

It's not going to happen - he's going to cruise in - but it would be HILARIOUS if he missed this year by a few votes.

MFS62 Nov 20 2018 07:36 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

If Ozzie is in, so should Omar be in. He was Ozzie without the backflips. Later

Mets Willets Point Nov 20 2018 08:17 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Shoot, I overlooked Larry Walker. Although I don't know who I would drop if I did a revote. I need 11 votes!

dinosaur jesus Nov 20 2018 01:55 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Gonna have to abstain. If I voted, I'd have to include Curt Schilling, and I don't want to vote for Curt Schilling. That gets me out of voting for Mussina and Pettitte too. Wish I could vote for Manny. Halladay too, but he probably won't need my help.

Mex17 Nov 20 2018 03:53 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Halladay. Mariano. Schilling. On edit: Should have voted Vizquel too. 11 Gold Gloves should get you in if you can hit even decently. My bad. Next year.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 20 2018 05:06 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

MFS62 wrote: If Ozzie is in, so should Omar be in. He was Ozzie without the backflips. Later Omar hit the same as Ozzie... only he did it during a much, much, MUCH more robust offensive era. So... not quite the same. Bonds Clemens Halladay Kent Martinez Ramirez Rivera Schilling

41Forever Nov 20 2018 07:01 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Between the juicers and Yankees, this is a tough ballot. Maybe a good one for Edgar, who topped 70 percent last year and doesn’t face as much of a logjam as in years past. Martinez Schilling Halladay Walker Helton Messina Rolen Vizquel

SteveJRogers Nov 21 2018 05:31 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Tracker is up https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?res ... 3uDsmqy_Vw

dgwphotography Nov 21 2018 07:28 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Rivera. That's it.

bmfc1 Nov 21 2018 09:28 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

I hate this group. No to Rivera just to be a "first-ballot" dick. He can sit by the pool for a year. Yes to Edgar Martinez (DH is a position--it's a stupid position but it counts), Mike Mussina and Jeff Kent.

bmfc1 Nov 23 2018 08:00 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Crap, here it comes: [tweet:3kkrba5n]https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/1065974930536361989[/tweet:3kkrba5n]

MFS62 Nov 23 2018 08:34 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

I've never heard of anyone called "Buster" who had any credibility. Later

SteveJRogers Nov 23 2018 09:04 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

MFS62 wrote: I've never heard of anyone called "Buster" who had any credibility. Later Keaton? ;)

MFS62 Nov 23 2018 07:02 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

SteveJRogers wrote: MFS62 wrote: I've never heard of anyone called "Buster" who had any credibility. Later Keaton? ;) Nahhh. The guy was a real clown. Later

Edgy MD Nov 23 2018 09:44 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

MFS62 wrote: If Ozzie is in, so should Omar be in. He was Ozzie without the backflips. Later Vizquel was a heckuva fielder, and I booed to see an All-Star Game with a shortstop-filled AL roster, which Torre responded to by moving Vizquel to second, and keeping Jeter at short, but I don't think Vizquel was Smith's equal, on offense or defense.

Mets Willets Point Nov 23 2018 10:14 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

bmfc1 wrote: He can sit by the pool for a year. Just make sure he switches off the electric security system first.

MFS62 Nov 24 2018 04:55 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Mets Willets Point wrote: bmfc1 wrote: He can sit by the pool for a year. Just make sure he switches off the electric security system first. BAM! (or should we say "ZAP!"?) As for the Omar/ Ozzie comparison. Ozzie may not have been as good as Ozzie (nobody has ever been), but he was the best defensive shortstop in the American League while Ozzie performed his magic in the NL. And as long as baseball players have to wear a glove, IMO his superiority over his peers for an extended period of time is what the HOF is all about. Later

Edgy MD Nov 24 2018 07:30 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

So, right now in the Crane Pool, it's Rivera and nobody. What's the case against Roy Halladay?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 24 2018 08:03 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

I skipped over Halladay on first go-thru with intentions to look him up. He's in, and in easily. --2 Cy Youngs, 5 top-5 CYs --8 ASGs --wins and losses "mean nothing" but a .659 winning percentage, 20th all-time, amazin in this era for a starter --not a HUGE strikeout guy, but excellent control

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 24 2018 08:05 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

I can't edit my votes?

Edgy MD Nov 24 2018 09:02 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

You can now!

Nymr83 Nov 24 2018 05:33 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Voted for Halladay, but needed to uncheck Rivera, sorry! ;)

Frayed Knot Nov 24 2018 06:19 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

I guess the only potential knock on Halladay was his short-ish prime. Called up at age 21 but didn't break through until age 26. Then, after a brief stumble, was great for a string but had his final good season at age 34 after only eight total seasons as a full-time starter (30+ starts) plus just two other seasons of over 20 Helluva prime though.

seawolf17 Nov 24 2018 06:31 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Halladay was, for a stretch, one of the best, if not the best, starter in baseball. I like B-R's "MVP Shares" and "Cy Young Shares" listings, because although those awards may be flawed, they do tell you something. And Halladay is 10th in all-time Cy Young Shares: 1. Roger Clemens (7 wins) 7.66 2. Randy Johnson* (5 wins) 6.50 3. Greg Maddux* (4 wins) 4.92 4. Clayton Kershaw (3 wins) 4.56 5. Steve Carlton* (4 wins) 4.29 6. Pedro Martinez* (3 wins) 4.26 7. Tom Seaver* (3 wins) 3.85 8. Max Scherzer (3 wins) 3.73 9. Jim Palmer* (3 wins) 3.57 10. Roy Halladay (2 wins) 3.50 11. Justin Verlander (1 win) 3.40 12. Tom Glavine* (2 wins) 3.15 13. Sandy Koufax* (3 wins) 3.05 I hate Clemens and didn't vote for him here because of that, but he should probably be in. Kershaw will be in some day, and Scherzer and Verlander are going to have really compelling cases too. (This list does, admittedly, fall apart a bit with multiple winners Johan Santana, Corey Kluber, and Bret Saberhagen 14th, 15th, and 17th, respectively.)

Rockin' Doc Nov 25 2018 08:59 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

I'm a rather stingy HOF voter. I went with Rivera, Walker, and Helton (I know his numbers are inflated from a career in Colorado's thin are, but they are still damn good numbers). I was on the fence on Halladay and to an even lesser degree Bergman. Probably should have given the nod to Halladay.

Vic Sage Nov 26 2018 11:25 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 28 2018 01:27 PM

yes: Bonds Clemens Halladay E.Martinez [on edit] Mussina M.Ramirez Rivera Schilling Sosa Walker [yikes! what a class of A-holes, Roiders and Yankmees!] maybe/borderline: Helton Rolen Wagner probably not: Berkman Jones Kent McGriff Pettitte Sheffield M.Tejada Vizquel no: Ankiel Bay F.Garcia Garland Hafner Lowe Oswalt Pierre polanco V.wells Youklis M.Young

86-Dreamer Nov 26 2018 11:29 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Bonds Clemens Halladay Andruw Helton Musssina Rivera Rolen Schilling Walker

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2018 12:24 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Vic Sage wrote: yes: Bonds Clemens Halladay Mussina M.Ramirez Rivera Schilling Sosa Walker [yikes! what a class of A-holes, Roiders and Yankmees!] maybe/borderline: Helton Rolen Wagner probably not: Berkman Jones Kent McGriff Pettitte Sheffield M.Tejada Vizquel no: Ankiel Bay F.Garcia Garland Hafner Lowe Oswalt Pierre polanco V.wells Youklis M.Young Undecided on Martinez?

Edgy MD Nov 26 2018 04:29 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

I went for Berkman. He could have tacked on a few more sunset years to pad the totals, but he was incorrigibly productive.

Vic Sage Nov 28 2018 01:26 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

batmagadanleadoff wrote: yes: Bonds Clemens Halladay Mussina M.Ramirez Rivera Schilling Sosa Walker [yikes! what a class of A-holes, Roiders and Yankmees!] maybe/borderline: Helton Rolen Wagner probably not: Berkman Jones Kent McGriff Pettitte Sheffield M.Tejada Vizquel no: Ankiel Bay F.Garcia Garland Hafner Lowe Oswalt Pierre polanco V.wells Youklis M.Young Undecided on Martinez? oops. oversight. No, he's definitely on my ballot, no indecision there.

bmfc1 Dec 19 2018 08:08 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Crap, it's unanimous so far for Rivera: [tweet:12b22xho]https://twitter.com/NotMrTibbs/status/1075406305001533440[/tweet:12b22xho] And as far as we're concerned "Doc" means Gooden.

Vic Sage Dec 19 2018 11:34 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

i can't argue with that result, if it holds up.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 19 2018 11:39 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

I don't like how close Clemens and Bonds are getting.

Edgy MD Dec 19 2018 12:22 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

How do you like that patience paying off for Mussina? He's gone 20.3% (2014), 24.6% (2015), 43.0% (2016), 51.8% (2017), and 63.5% (2018). He's also unjustly on the outside looking in when it comes to the Orioles' garden of retired numbers. I think there is residual bitterness in Baltimore from him jumping to the Yankees, but he was a heckuva pitcher. He may be the last guy ever to win 20 games in his final season.

sharpie Dec 19 2018 12:22 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

I'm for Bonds getting in. Clemens too, I guess. I don't want Rivera to get 100% but the current standings aren't terrible.

G-Fafif Dec 19 2018 01:11 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Should 100% happen, prepare for variations on these ledes: Leave it to the best closer baseball has ever seen to slam the door on one of the silliest customs in Hall of Fame voting history. He dominated ninth innings like no relief pitcher before him and now he has retired precedent in order. Everybody knew he was the greatest. Now everybody has said so. The eternal Yankee dynasty has added another crown to its reign, and it's one not even the fiercest Red Sox loyalist could argue against. An industry that watched Mariano Rivera with awe responded the only way it could -- unanimously. And next year: Percentage of vote doesn't begin to describe the transcendence of Derek Jeter. He gave 100% on his worst day. Not that he had any of those.

Edgy MD Dec 19 2018 02:44 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

And these ledes will be stopped at editing: Mariano Rivera has made a lot of history, none so momentous as his blown save against the Red Sox in 2004 starting the transformation of a robotic Yankee sweep into baseball's greatest comeback and the Red Sox ending of the longest championship drought in baseball history. Now he will forever be recorded as part of that history. Panamanians were electrified by the news of Mariano Rivera's election to the Hall of Fame.

Mets Willets Point Dec 19 2018 03:52 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Edgy MD wrote: Panamanians were electrified by the news of Mariano Rivera's election to the Hall of Fame. He will be the first Panamanian-born pitcher in the HOF and second overall to Rod Carew (who interestingly was born on a train traveling through the Panama Canal Zone).

G-Fafif Dec 19 2018 04:46 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Were there hiccups? Unlikely imperfections? Stutter steps that ever so briefly sidetracked a gait that carried the closer sure and true through the gates of Cooperstown earning the cheers of immortals like Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle? A few, perhaps, but since it was Rivera, it can be resolutely declared that the rare Yankee triumph that slipped through Mariano's otherwise sure fingers could not be classified a setback, for even when a note was dropped in Rivera's Ninth Symphony, losing was still unheard of. In memory, every pitch was a strike, every call was an out, every result made John Sterling the most accurate reporter working in any media. Thuuuuuh Yankees win! And the save inevitably goes to Mo. No wonder it was unanimous. It couldn't have been anything but.

MFS62 Dec 20 2018 07:53 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Edgy MD wrote: Panamanians were electrified by the news of Mariano Rivera's election to the Hall of Fame. Bring back the BOC for that one! Later

SteveJRogers Dec 22 2018 11:09 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

For some reason the guy doing the tracking has been ignoring this story: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/we ... ar-BBQLNvn

HahnSolo Dec 22 2018 11:25 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Probably because he hasn’t actually gotten a look at the ballot. At this point it’s second hand. He’s not ignoring it. That’s his tweet in the article.

41Forever Dec 25 2018 11:49 AM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Boston sportswriter Bill Ballou wants to have his cake and eat it, too. He decides he doesn't value closers and wouldn't vote for Rivera. But he also doesn't want to be the one who costs him a shot at a unanimous ballot, so he's not going to vote at all. [url]https://www.telegram.com/news/20181222/bill-ballou-mariano-rivera-not-getting-this-writers-hall-of-fame-vote Last year he voted for five players: PED tainted Clemens, Bonds and Manny Ramirez plus Chipper and Vlad. But didn't think Jim Thome's untainted 600+ homers were worthy.

G-Fafif Dec 25 2018 04:36 PM Re: 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

Bill Ballou could be a hero, just for one day, if he sends his Riveraless ballot in. He invents a loopy rationale to deprive a MFY of unanimous support and then doesn't follow through. Next time put a stamp on the envelope.