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Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

kcmets
Jan 16 2019 01:50 PM

Enes Kanter wanted by Turkish officials and Interpol for terrorist ties.

No, really: Bleacher Report

seawolf17
Jan 16 2019 02:00 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

The Knicks finally giving Long Islanders a reason to watch, as they traded for former Seawolf Jameel Warney last week. He's scored 26 games in his first two games with the Westchester Knicks. He'll be 25 soon, so this is probably his last shot at the NBA. Hopefully he gets another cup of coffee. (He got three games with the Mavs last season.)

nymr83
Jan 16 2019 08:23 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019


Enes Kanter wanted by Turkish officials and Interpol for terrorist ties.

No, really: Bleacher Report


and by "terrorist" they mean "NON-VIOLENT opponent of the government"

MFS62
Jan 17 2019 07:13 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Psst. Here's a helpful hint for your team.

If you can hold James Harden to 58 points, you can beat Houston.



Later

A Boy Named Seo
Jan 31 2019 02:17 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

WOJ. BOMB.



holy cow

A Boy Named Seo
Jan 31 2019 02:23 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

a third of the Mavericks team are giant, European guys who shoot 3's. I think DeAndre is expiring, but he's my favorite NBA player, by far. You guys will love him.


[TWEET]https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1091076373765124108[/TWEET]

kcmets
Jan 31 2019 02:40 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

I am speechless.

A Boy Named Seo
Jan 31 2019 03:48 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

I *think* the Knicks are trying to get enough cap room to try and splash the cash at one or two of these elite free agents to-be. They tried that with LBJ before and ended up with Amare Stoudemire, so...

nymr83
Jan 31 2019 03:53 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

I love Porzingis, but the guy has missed a year with a torn ACL and the history of recovery from those is a mixed bag (538 ran an article about it when he first got hurt)



ESPN says the Knicks are getting a 1st rounder as well. But not Dallas' as that is promised to Atlanta, so a 3rd team involved.



I'll wait to see the final deal but this seems like an "ok" move especially if Porzingis privately said he wasnt coming back

kcmets
Jan 31 2019 04:07 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

I think the first round pick will be a future year not this draft.

nymr83
Jan 31 2019 04:12 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

=kcmets post_id=2167 time=1548976046 user_id=53]
I think the first round pick will be a future year not this draft.



well, until we know whose pick it is its hard to judge the value

A Boy Named Seo
Jan 31 2019 04:38 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

I'm reading about them possibly waiving Wes Matthews and Deandre. Please come home, Deandre. Please come home.

kcmets
Jan 31 2019 05:28 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

=nymr83 post_id=2168 time=1548976354 user_id=54]well, until we know whose pick it is its hard to judge the value


My understanding was that it's a Mav's future first rounder but that was early on.

I guess we'll see.

Willets Point
Jan 31 2019 08:04 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Well, at least my Celtics will get an easy W tomorrow night.

LWFS
Jan 31 2019 08:48 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Considering that, excepting the salary room they're getting, they're essentially moving him straight up for a guy they passed over in the draft... it's tough to swallow. Kevin Knox would've been a throw-in. Porzingia is an all-NBA talent with room to grow, yet.



I'm pretty sure this officially makes me an NBA-fandom ronin, at least until Dolan sells or goes to the great vanity MSG-opening-gig in the sky.

nymr83
Jan 31 2019 10:22 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

well, they traded him as much to get out from Hardaway and Lee's contracts. the Knicks can now sign two max players this offseason and pair them with a high first round pick, Smith, Knox, Robinson, Ntkilina. the question is - are 2 great players really going to want to come here? If the knicks know that ::wink wink:: Durant and Irving wanna come play together then its a good deal.

MFS62
Feb 01 2019 06:15 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

I'd suspect the NBA is already trying to figure out a Ewingesque way to get them the #1 draft pick. NBA TV ratings in New York must have been in the crapper the past few years. (Even though local fans do have an exciting basketball team they can watch.)



Later

Johnny Lunchbucket
Feb 01 2019 06:36 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

I don't follow the NBA at all but the Knicks are just disgraceful, one shiny bauble chase after another.

seawolf17
Feb 01 2019 07:08 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

It's so fricking weird that the biggest city in the damn world has so many franchises who seem completely inept.

Vic Sage
Feb 01 2019 12:16 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 01 2019 02:54 PM

first of all,

*Porzingis made it clear to Knicks he was unhappy and would not sign an extension, so he'd be out after next year;

*Other teams also know he'll be a 1-year rental; and

*he's been injured every season in the league, and has yet to return from an ACL.



These are all factors that significantly reduce his trade value.



Despite that, the Knicks got:

*Last year's 1st rounder (PG Dennis Smith), with lots of upside;

*not ONE, but TWO future first round picks (the first one is NOT lottery protected); and

*enough cap space for TWO (instead of ONE) max deals this summer.



So next year, instead of having Durant + top 5 pick + Porzingis (unhappy, coming off an injury, and playing on a 1-year deal),

they could have: Durant + top 5 pick + a happy Kyrie or Kawhi or even Kemba, PLUS 2 more future 1st rounders.



Of course, if they don't end up with 2 max deal FAs next year, this whole thing falls to shit. But I don't blame Perry for pushing all his chips into the middle of the table, and I don't think he'd do it if he didn't already know he's got a likelihood of luring KD here. Once KD is here, he can pick who he wants to play with, and there will be a player who'll want to join him, particularly if we get Zion the scion.



I don't blame people for being skeptical about their chances of getting 1, much less 2, big FAs here, but I like Perry and think he can be a more effective recruiter than any other GM we've had in recent years. So i'm willing to wait to see what he does before calling this deal a disaster.

Willets Point
Feb 01 2019 01:38 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

=seawolf17 post_id=2186 time=1549030125 user_id=91]
It's so fricking weird that the biggest city in the damn world has so many franchises who seem completely inept.



My mother has a joke that the Knicks only win championships in years that she gave birth to a child and went to games while she was pregnant, which was funny, but the more years that pass the weirder it gets.

Theoldmole
Feb 01 2019 04:35 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Don't forget Dolan still owns this team. Nothing good can come of it.

nymr83
May 14 2019 09:51 AM
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Edgy MD
May 14 2019 10:27 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

I don't follow the NBA at all but the Knicks are just disgraceful, one shiny bauble chase after another.


Yup.

batmagadanleadoff
May 14 2019 07:25 PM
What? No Knicks Thread? Fixed.

So now we have a Knicks thread. But there won't be no Zion coming. At least Dolan kept this year's lottery pick. So there's that.

Frayed Knot
May 14 2019 07:28 PM
Re: What? No Knicks Thread? Fixed.

Psssst, look four threads down.

MFS62
May 14 2019 07:42 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Laissez les bon temps roulez

Later

nymr83
May 14 2019 07:43 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

3rd isnt 1st, but the pundits say this is a "3 player draft" so at least they arent picking 4th!

nymr83
May 14 2019 07:43 PM
Re: What? No Knicks Thread? Fixed.

Frayed Knot wrote:

Psssst, look four threads down.


i had to go back to the 4th page to bump it this morning, hey this aint a Knicks board

Frayed Knot
May 14 2019 07:44 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

So what you're saying is that it's all set up for the NYK to pick some foreign guy that no one's ever heard of, right?

kcmets
May 14 2019 08:38 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Yeah, they probably have their sights on that dark horse no one talks about

from Upper Slabonnia 7' 8", 175 lbs. He's a monster.

Edgy MD
May 14 2019 08:41 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Detachment from the Knicks is a wonderful thing. I salute youse guys for hanging in there.

MFS62
May 15 2019 06:05 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Patrick Ewing brought them as many #1 draft picks as he did championships.



Later

Vic Sage
May 15 2019 08:44 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

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Vic Sage
May 15 2019 08:45 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

yeah, happy birthday to me.



fuckin' knicks

nymr83
May 15 2019 01:27 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

the Knicks were 86% to NOT pick 1st.



best comment I heard so far was that the Knicks were already making plans to tank and open up cap space to sign Zion Williamson in 2026

batmagadanleadoff
May 15 2019 02:21 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Maybe they'll trade the draft pick for Anthony Davis and then sign Kevin Durant.

nymr83
May 15 2019 08:52 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019


Maybe they'll trade the draft pick for Anthony Davis and then sign Kevin Durant.


the Knicks can probably make the 3rd best offer behind LA and Boston.



Will New Orleans turn down ANY LA offer out of spite after LA basically tampered during the season to push for a trade?



Will Boston still be interested if Kyrie jumps ship?



lastly, should the Knicks really want to tear it down for AD as they did for Carmelo in a trade? you'd have to make the deal before the draft with Durant/Kyrie not here yet. what happens if you blow the 3rd pick, Robinson, & Knox for AD and then dont get Durant? you'll need to give AD a max contract next year and there goes the cap space and you are back to having the Carmelo situation where you torched the roster to get a guy and then paid him and have no money and no assets left to build a roster.



I'd rather keep Robinson, Knox, Smith, and the 3rd pick - Barrett or Morant. If Durant and a Leonard/Kyrie/Walker sign here that is great. if you cant get a top tier guy and "another guy" or two top tier guys (but NOT two "other guys", dont do that) then you continue the slow rebuild with a decent looking core and - with the Dallas picks coming and Isiah Thomas the draft pick killer long gone you have 6 first rounders including all of yours in the next 4 years.

LWFS
May 15 2019 09:07 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

To be fair... I'd MUCH rather build around a guy like Davis-- a rare talent, and a force on both ends of the court-- than a guy like Anthony.



Even on a budget, and even without Kyrie... you can do a LOT with a core of Davis and Durant.

batmagadanleadoff
May 15 2019 11:53 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

If the plan really is to trade the pick for Davis and then sign KD, they wouldn't commit to Davis without feeling assured that they'd sign KD. Everyone tampers.

nymr83
May 16 2019 06:33 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=10121 time=1557985983 user_id=68]
If the plan really is to trade the pick for Davis and then sign KD, they wouldn't commit to Davis without feeling assured that they'd sign KD. Everyone tampers.



sure, everyone tampers. but this is the Knicks we are talking about here, don't you think they screw up tampering too? get caught and banned by the league from signing him? have him reneg at the last minute?

Frayed Knot
Jun 11 2019 04:40 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

So this pretty much guarantees that Durant will sign with the Knicks this summer, right?

nymr83
Jun 11 2019 05:26 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Frayed Knot wrote:

So this pretty much guarantees that Durant will sign with the Knicks this summer, right?


And never be fully healthy again? Yup. Then they'll trade the entire roster for Davis and be left with crap

Vic Sage
Jun 13 2019 02:43 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

now, more than ever, he profiles as a Knick.

MFS62
Jun 14 2019 06:23 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Jeremy Lin won a championship ring last night.

Later

Frayed Knot
Jun 15 2019 04:57 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

So the Lakers have apparently worked out a deal for Anthony Davis ... so there goes another off-season plan for the NYK up in smoke.

Several players plus #1 draft picks for most of the remainder of the century (including this year's #4 overall) going the other way.

nymr83
Jun 15 2019 08:33 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Frayed Knot wrote:

So the Lakers have apparently worked out a deal for Anthony Davis ... so there goes another off-season plan for the NYK up in smoke.

Several players plus #1 draft picks for most of the remainder of the century (including this year's #4 overall) going the other way.


#4 this year and two more first round picks, Josh Hart, Lonzo Ball (his fame-seeking father must be fuming!), and Brandon Ingram.



this would be basically the knicks trading #3 this year, the two Dallas picks (or even the right to the higher pick in a given year - New York's or Dallas'), Knox, Robinson &Ntiklina? i'm not sure the knicks guys even match up though the knicks would be promising better picks.



i'd say fuck that and take our chances making all our picks.

ashie62
Jun 16 2019 01:29 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Any Brooklyn Nets fans in numbers worth starting a thread for?

kcmets
Jun 16 2019 01:50 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Paging MFS

MFS62
Jun 16 2019 04:38 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

I'm here, but won't respond to that question for a whole bunch of reasons ... yet.



Later

MFS62
Jun 20 2019 06:43 AM
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The draft is tonight. So I clicked on the NBA station on cable to see their draft preview. And who was one of the talking heads at the desk? Billy King! That's BILLY F'N KING! You remember. He made the trade that set the Nets franchise back five years and almost destroyed it. And that was after almost destroying the Sixers franchise (I know. Who cares?). He is up there on the wall of shame with the person who told Napoleon the invade Russia and the guy who designed the Edsel. He should not be allowed to attend an NBA game, much less be a host of a show on the NBA channel. I gott'a go lie down.

Later

nymr83
Jun 20 2019 06:56 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

"With the 3rd Pick in the 2019 NBA draft, the New York Knicks select ... Frederick Weiss, Jr!"



they'll fuck it up somehow, they fuck everything up.

Vic Sage
Jun 20 2019 08:36 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

i have more confidence in Perry than any other Knick GM in recent memory, and Dolan has checked out after the Jackson fiasco, so i'm suspiciously hopeful. Also, my nephew works in their scouting department now, so maybe that gives me more confidence for some reason. But he's still the same kid who used to spin in circles until he puked, so i'm not sure why I feel that way.

MFS62
Jun 20 2019 08:39 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Vic Sage wrote:

But he's still the same kid who used to spin in circles until he puked.


Doesn't everybody?

Later

nymr83
Jun 20 2019 07:58 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

i almost puked last time i played ball, if you aren' puking you aren't trying hard enough*









*or you are out of shape

Vic Sage
Jun 21 2019 12:13 PM
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Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2019 09:47 AM

current post-draft roster

[*]signed/guaranteed contracts: Smith, Ntilikina, Trier, Barrett, Brazdeikis, Knox, Robinson

[*]2-way contracts: Allen, Wilkes

[*]signed/non-guaranteed vets: Jenkins, Dotson, Thomas, Ellenson

[*]non-guaranteed new deals (for g-league/summer league): Hinton, Bond, Irvin, King, Wooten, Cavanaugh

[*]Restricted FAs: Garrett, Hicks

[*]Unrestricted FAs: Mudiay, Hezjonja, Vonleh, Kornet, Jordan



projected rotation:

starters: Smith / Barrett / knox / ____ / Robinson

rotation: Ntilikina / Trier / Dotson / _____ / _____

Bench: Jenkins, Thomas, Ellenson

Reserve: Brazdeikis, _____

2-way: Allen / Wilkes

Vic Sage
Jun 26 2019 03:10 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

summer league in vegas starting July 5. Rosters not settled, but presumably, it will include the draft picks, the bench/reserve players, and whomever else they can scrape together, including foreign players, g-leaguers and UDFAs. Hopefully, they sign some bigs to play there with a shot to make the team, because we need depth up front.



Assuming we don't get one of the big 3 (Durant/Kyrie/Kawhi), the Knicks have said no "max deals" for anybody else, so we're not going to pursue 2nd tier FAs for big money. Which is ok with me. But we definitely need some PF/C types who can play enough to keep Knox as a SF, not a PF (where he is over-matched). They're talking about Julius Randle, but i'd just as soon we re-signed DeAndre Jordan and/or Noah Vonleh, who were both good for the team last year and won't require big money (i don't think).

Vic Sage
Jun 27 2019 09:03 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2019 09:08 AM

projected summer league roster:



Hinton /Barrett / Brazdeikis / Wooten / Cavanaugh

Bond / Irvin / King / Wilkes / Ellenson

Vic Sage
Jun 27 2019 09:04 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Rumors that Boogie Cousins may get signed on a big$/1-year deal. Which i'm ok with i guess. It won't keep us from doing other stuff.

Vic Sage
Jun 27 2019 09:10 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Knicks have officially declined qualifying offers to Mudiay and Kornet, so they become UFAs and Knicks now have 2 max slots.

I figured they'd decline Mudiay's option, but i thought they'd hold onto Kornet, who is both effective and cost effective.

kcmets
Jun 28 2019 10:06 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

I really hope they don't do the Durant thing in 2019 rolling the dice for

and 2021 beyond, but it's like something they'll want to do if possible.

MFS62
Jun 30 2019 04:07 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

My heart is feeling better already.

Maybe I will start a Nets thread once the smoke clears and the ink is dry.

Later

kcmets
Jun 30 2019 07:00 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

ESPN scrolly thing says Knicks did not offer Durant a deal over

worries about recovery issues. Best thing they've done in years.

Frayed Knot
Jun 30 2019 07:09 PM
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=kcmets post_id=14703 time=1561942806 user_id=53]
ESPN scrolly thing says Knicks did not offer Durant a deal over

worries about recovery issues. Best thing they've done in years.



Yeah, these reports declaring the Nets as "winners' in the FA game are, to put it kindly, premature.



I don't claim to know a whole lot about basketball -- but Durant is already 30 y/o, will turn 31 before next season starts, and will be 32 before HIS next season starts at which

point he will have gone at least from May of '19 until November of '20 without playing a meaningful game.

And you're giving a four year contract, for at most three years of service, to a big man (although not a bulky one) coming off a major leg injury.

Got a ways to go before I'd be doing a victory dance over that.

Vic Sage
Jul 01 2019 09:39 PM
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Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 02 2019 01:32 PM

Knicks lose out on the big 3, so they turn to Plan B (veteran FA role players on short term deals).



projected roster & rotation:

starters: Payton/ Barrett / knox / Randle / Robinson

rotation: Smith /Trier / Bullock / Gibson / Portis

Bench: Ntilikina / Ellington / Dotson



Reserve: Brazdeikis, _____

2-way: Allen / Wilkes



*non-guaranteed deals or invites for g-league/summer league: Markel Crawford, Amir Hinton, Lamar Peters, Kenny Smith, Tim Bond, Zak Irvin, VJ King, Andrew White, Tyler Cavanaugh, Henry Ellenson, Kenny Wooten



With 1 slot on the roster left and not much cap space, they need to use their mid-level exception to get a backup center. Portis can play there but he's really a PF. They need another big body. Also, I think they're still trying to move Ntilikina (which would be a mistake), so maybe they'll get some size that way.

Vic Sage
Jul 02 2019 01:25 PM
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summer league roster



Guards: Kadeem Allen*, Markel Crawford***, Amir Hinton**, Lamar Peters**, Kenny Smith***, Allonzo Trier*

Wings: RJ Barrett*, Tim Bond***, Ignaz Brazdeikis*, Zak Irvin***, VJ King**, Andrew White***

Bigs: Tyler Cavanaugh***, Kevin Knox*, Mitchell Robinson*, Kenny Wooten**





*Knicks roster/guaranteed contracts (draft picks in bold)

** UDFA rookies

*** vets/g-league/foreign



With one slot on the Knicks roster still open, and a backup Big still needed, I'm curious to watch Kenny Wooten play. He's an UDFA rookie who's supposed to be a great shot blocker and defensive specialist, which is what you want on the end of the bench.



first game is 7/5 against Pelicans - RJ v Zion

Vic Sage
Jul 10 2019 08:10 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

summer league team is winless, at 0-3.



Barrett was bad in first 2 games, but gave a solid well-balanced performance in game 3 against Raptors, with 17pts/ 10reb/ 6ast/ 3blk. Brazz put up 30 in the loss to Suns.

Wooten's shot-blocking and Cavanaugh's touch around the basket continue to intrigue, as they audition for the "big man-last slot on the bench" role.



Next game is against Lakers tonight (Wednesday 7/10).

Vic Sage
Jul 11 2019 12:48 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

finally a win, against Lakers. and its a blowout.

Vic Sage
Jul 15 2019 03:04 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Knicks win last game, against Wizards, and go 2-3 overall. Barrett had his best game, Knox and Robbie were strong, too. I'm still hoping we find a place for Wooten (either in G-league or on the bench).

Vic Sage
Jul 17 2019 01:08 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

15-man roster is finalized!



projected

starters: Payton / Barrett / Morris / Randle / Robinson

rotation: Smith / Trier / Knox / Gibson / Portis

Bench: Ntilikina, Ellington, Dotson

Reserve: Brazdeikis, Bullock (dl)

2-way: Allen / Wilkes



* I'm not sure why they felt compelled to sign both Ellington and the injured Bullock. I'd rather see Dotson getting the minutes as the 3rd string SG/SF, with room for the shot-blocking freak, Wooten, on the bench;

* I think they're going to trade Ntilikina. If they don't, i hope they give him the chance to play himself into the rotation. Neither he nor Smith can shoot worth a damn, but at least he plays D, and Payton can pass. If they do trade Ntilikina, i hope they give Kadeem Allen a longer look;

* Knox v Morris for starting SF will be decided in camp, i guess;

* Bradzeikis could earn some minutes over Gibson, allowing Knox to move to PF and moving Gibson to "mentor" role, waving a towel at the end of the bench.

Vic Sage
Jul 22 2019 02:47 PM
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They signed Kenny Wooten to an "exhibit 10" contract! This is a good move. It's an invite to camp and a guarantee of $50k in the g-league if he doesn't make the team.

They can have 20 bodies in camp so, between this and the 17 contracts they've already got, they can sign 2 more players (X10 or otherwise).

Vic Sage
Aug 12 2019 11:47 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

They signed itty-bitty PG Lamar Peters to a non-guaranteed deal to come to camp. He is an UDFA that played with them in the summer league. This leaves them one more slot.

Vic Sage
Aug 29 2019 03:35 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Hakeem Thabeet is going to informal scrimmages with the knicks!

Go Huskies!

Vic Sage
Sep 27 2019 09:19 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Training camp is about to start next week and the Knicks have finalized their 20-man (max) camp roster:



Guaranteed contracts (15)

starters: Smith / Barrett / Morris / Randle / Robinson

rotation: Payton / Trier / Knox / Portis

Bench: Ntilikina, Ellington, Brazdeikis / Gibson

Reserve: Dotson, Bullock (dl)



2-way contracts (1)

K.Allen, ______ (Wilkes was cut)



Exhibit 10 (4)

Wooten (F/C), VJKing (F/G), Hinton (G/F), Peters (PG)



These 4 played for Knicks in the summer league, and will likely end up in the G-League, with Kadeem Allen. The only intriguing one is Wooten, who is a shot-blocking maniac. Maybe they'll give him the other 2-way deal, now that Wilkes is gone.



Frankie played well for France this summer and, hopefully, will find himself in the rotation, but I doubt it. I hate Dennis Smith's game, despite his talents. If he doesn't hit open shots or play D, he shouldn't get minutes. But he will, because talent. Payton was brought in to be a backup. Morris may start over Knox. Knox is much like Smith... physical talents, with no shot and no D. Once Bullock gets back, he'll get the backup SF minutes and some at SG, moving Bradz off the roster to a reserve role. If Barrett doesn't look ready, Bullock may even start, letting RJ come off the bench at the 2 or 3. Gibson, Ellington and Dotson will offer leadership by handing out towels on the bench.



I know deep down they're going to suck, because all my teams do. But, unlike baseball, i am always optimistic at the start of every basketball (and football) season.

Vic Sage
Oct 09 2019 01:03 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

The first pre-season game is a victory against Washington 104-99.

Knicks jumped out to a big 1/2 lead, and then held on as Wizards slowly came back in the 2nd half... but not far enough back.



Here was the rotation:



starters: Payton/ Barrett / Morris / Randle / Robinson

rotation: Ntilikina / Trier /Ellington / Knox /Gibson

DNP: Brazdeikis, Portis, Allen, Wooten, VJKing, Hinton, Peters

injured: Smith, Dotson, Bullock

MFS62
Oct 31 2019 07:05 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Well, at least you held Kyrie to under 50 points.

Later

kcmets
Oct 31 2019 07:11 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

And Durant to zero.

MFS62
Oct 31 2019 07:14 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

And you still lost.

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kcmets
Oct 31 2019 07:30 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Go buy a gangsta snow cap lol...

Vic Sage
Nov 01 2019 03:02 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

its taken multiple injuries, but Frankie is finally the starting PG, starting tonight in Boston.



starters = Ntilikina / Barrett / Morris / Randle / Robinson

rotation = Ellington / Knox / Gibson / Portis

bench = Trier, Dotson, Brazdikis

hurt = Payton, Smith, Bullock

kcmets
Nov 03 2019 05:18 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

So the 1-5 Knicks are down by 20 at the half to the 1-5 Kings. At home.



What's the loss over/under they can go to dig out of the hole? 6? 7? Another

season shot to shit before Thanksgiving. Again.

Vic Sage
Nov 04 2019 08:31 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

yeah, that was quite ugly. They were never in it.

Is it too soon to say Randle is a bust?

kcmets
Dec 01 2019 04:34 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

And not for nothing, but David Fizdale is obviously on 'ludes...

Vic Sage
Dec 06 2019 02:26 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Well, after a 4-18 start, Fizdale is fired as the losingest coach in Knicks history.

Mills and Perry are on the clock.. tick... tick...

MFS62
Dec 07 2019 03:42 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Vic Sage wrote:

Mills and Perry are on the clock.. tick... tick...


Hire Billy King as GM.

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kcmets
Dec 07 2019 06:40 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Or Billie Jean King!

Vic Sage
Dec 19 2019 12:33 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

don't look now but since firing David "ballast" Fizdale, Knicks have won 3 of 4, including a record-setting 143-120 win over the Hawks. This, however, shouldn't stop them from trading everybody on a 1-year deal, asap. They might even get a late 1st-round pick for Morris, after his excellent play so far this season. And i wouldn't mind if they moved Randle and his 3-year deal. i hate watching him play... he can shoot and rebound, but he takes bad shots, handles the ball too much, and plays no defense. He's like a poor man's Melo. I can't stand Smith, either, for the same reasons (plus he can't shoot).



This would be my lineup if we dealt them all:



Peyton / Bullock [dl] / Barrett / Knox / Robinson

Ntilikina / Trier / Dotson / Gibson / Portis

Allen, Ellington, Bradziekis



But if we could get anything for Bullock, Ellington, Gibson and/or Portis, then they could go too.

Vic Sage
Dec 19 2019 12:47 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

so then, next year, we draft the top PG (Greg Anthony's son, Cole, out of UNC), sign the Greek Freak, and then get ready to rumble!

Vic Sage
Dec 19 2019 12:48 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Anthony / Barrett / Gianni / Knox / Robinson

Ntilikina / Trier / Dotson / Bradzeikis

kcmets
Dec 19 2019 01:50 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Vic Sage wrote:
don't look now but since firing David "ballast" Fizdale, Knicks have won 3 of 4, including a record-setting 143-120 win over the Hawks.

Most points scored in a game since 1980, I believe. I graduated HS in 1980.

Yikes. Have you watched any of Mike Miller's post game comments? I like him,

but I've been duped so many times by NY coach-speak I'm probably wrong again.

Vic Sage
Dec 19 2019 03:07 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

yeah, i know. i like Miller, too, but who knows? Everybody is probably getting fired at the end of the season, so i'm not going to get attached.

and i know we ain't getting Gianni, but i can dream.

kcmets
Jan 20 2020 04:17 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

I'll look it up later, but have the Knicks played on the road in the last

25 years on MLK Day? I was at The Trent Tucker Game, just texted my

budbro HTTD! Anyway, down 49-50 at halftime from CLE.

Vic Sage
Jan 22 2020 09:01 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

knicks dominate CLE in 2nd half for a 20pt win. They should still trade every 1-year deal that they can get a pick for. starting with Morris, who is having a career year.

kcmets
Jan 28 2020 07:39 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Knicks got dicked tonight, can't take a shot and stick a leg out a little.



Just more pussicfaication of sports.

Vic Sage
Feb 04 2020 12:20 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Mills is out as Team Prez, with GM Perry taking over on an interim basis.

I'm glad this happened before he could pull the trigger on yet another stupid trade before the deadline on Friday.

On the other hand, only the Knicks would have to fire a team prez a few days before the trade deadline.

nymr83
Feb 04 2020 04:20 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Better than the Jets, firing the GM right AFTER he had the opportunity make poor Free Agent and Draft moves!

MFS62
Feb 04 2020 06:55 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

=nymr83 post_id=31064 time=1580858444 user_id=54]
Better than the Jets, firing the GM right AFTER he had the opportunity make poor Free Agent and Draft moves!



This. And I believe the trade deadline is Thursday.

The two mid day morons on WFAN (no, Beningo and Evans are now the evening drive time team. It is now some woman named Maggie with Mark Malusis) were taking about a possible trade for ex-Net D'Angelo Russell. Not sure if it is an active rumor or a WATP.



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nymr83
Feb 06 2020 07:31 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Word is the Knicks are planning to follow in the Mets' footsteps and hire a player agent to run the show.



Ugh.

kcmets
Feb 06 2020 08:04 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

At least they got something for Morris. I thought a few more would go.

Vic Sage
Feb 08 2020 01:55 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

yes, a 1st and 2nd for an impending FA who they could (and may well) sign back next season is certainly lemonade out of lemons. I hoped we'd at least get a TAB for smith, portis, and/or ellington, but no such luck.

meanwhile, we've got a player agent as the new prez. Can't be any worse than the last 8 or 10 Knicks prezi

Lefty Specialist
Mar 01 2020 01:49 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Michael Che on SNL-



"20,000 high school students in New York City got to see the cast of the Broadway hit 'To Kill a Mockingbird' performed at Madison Square Garden. And no surprise, the cast beat the Knicks by 25 points."

Vic Sage
Mar 02 2020 10:47 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

I saw Che at a Knicks game a few weeks ago. As a fan, he's entitled to dog them.

kcmets
May 09 2020 02:19 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Speaking of '50 years ago today', how did I miss this yesterday?



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/sports/basketball/knicks-championship-anniversary.html?smid=em-share



I don't know if MSG has been airing games, but see they're showing Game 7

at midnight if anyone is interested in DVRng.

MFS62
May 09 2020 02:48 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

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Speaking of '50 years ago today', how did I miss this yesterday?



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/sports/basketball/knicks-championship-anniversary.html?smid=em-share



I don't know if MSG has been airing games, but see they're showing Game 7

at midnight if anyone is interested in DVRng.


They showed the "Willis Reed" game 5 a few nights ago. It was black and white, with no sound. They had to provide the crowd noise and commentary. Al Trautwig was in studio and had Mike Roirdan as his co-commentator. Mike Warren was also there but don't know why. He made a few extraneous comments during and after the showing and seemed to have a "why am I here?" expression on his face.

IIRC, Walt Frazier had one of the greatest game 7 performances of all time. If you don't remember seeing it, it will be worth watching.



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ashie62
May 10 2020 08:24 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Did TV show that game on a tape delay. I believe the NBA used to do that

kcmets
May 10 2020 09:36 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Googling around, it doesn't look like 1970 falls in the era of NBA tape

delayed broadcasts but you're correct that they did indeed do that.

MFS62
Jun 02 2020 07:22 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

What, me worry?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/knicks-owner-james-dolan-on-george-floyd-silence-we-are-not-any-more-qualified-than-anyone-else-to-offer-our-opinion-on-social-matters-2020-06-02?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

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nymr83
Jun 02 2020 08:02 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019


What, me worry?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/knicks-owner-james-dolan-on-george-floyd-silence-we-are-not-any-more-qualified-than-anyone-else-to-offer-our-opinion-on-social-matters-2020-06-02?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

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“We at Madison Square Garden stand by our values of respect and peaceful workplace. We always will. As companies in the business of sports and entertainment, however, we are not any more qualified than anyone else to offer our opinion on social matters.”— James Dolan to MSG Sports employees, according to leaked email.


Seems like the smartest thing James Dolan ever said.

MFS62
Jun 02 2020 08:30 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019


Seems like the smartest thing James Dolan ever said.


Why not this? "Enough is enough"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nets-statement-on-george-floyd-killing-enough-is-enough/ar-BB14QGPF

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nymr83
Jun 02 2020 09:05 AM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019



Seems like the smartest thing James Dolan ever said.


Why not this? "Enough is enough"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nets-statement-on-george-floyd-killing-enough-is-enough/ar-BB14QGPF

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Goodell posted something similar and players were re-tweeting it saying "bullshit" - you can't win.

MFS62
Jun 09 2020 12:54 PM
Re: Your. New. York. Knicks.... 2019

Still trying, still slightly off the mark (what's new?)

https://sports.yahoo.com/knicks-release-34-word-statement-for-positive-change-after-weeks-of-silence-on-george-floyd-165200570.html



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