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MFS62 Feb 13 2019 06:51 AM

They need new lyrics to a baseball classic. http://www.mysuncoast.com/2019/02/13/minor-league-ballpark-bans-peanuts-cracker-jack/ It was only a matter of time. sigh Later

metsmarathon Feb 13 2019 08:47 AM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

"buy me some peanut-free cracker jack..." boom, done. give me money.

Centerfield Feb 13 2019 08:54 AM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

"buy me some peanut-free cracker jack..." boom, done. give me money. (Puts pencil down. Pouts.) This will make a bunch of folks (older, no peanut allergy) irrationally unhappy. But good for the team. Whether the uptick in peanut allergies is due to coddling parents creating a generation of pussies or not, alienating a big portion of the public for an antiquated tradition is silly. My nephew has a peanut allergy. And even though he stays nut-free, sometimes all the shells on the floor and in the aisles bothers him. Whenever he comes with us to games we replace that line with "Buy me some nut-free snacks and, um, other nut free snacks...." He's a good sport about it.

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 13 2019 09:17 AM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

One theory for the uptick in peanut allergies is that Americans especially eat so little non-processed foods, while our fresh food undergoes such cleanliness/safety rigor, that our bodies own defenses against weird organisms in food have nothing to do anymore, whereas in the past they helped cavemen survive. Peanuts being one of the funkier and "earthiest" foods we have anymore triggers that primal defense

Centerfield Feb 13 2019 09:38 AM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: One theory for the uptick in peanut allergies is that Americans especially eat so little non-processed foods, while our fresh food undergoes such cleanliness/safety rigor, that our bodies own defenses against weird organisms in food have nothing to do anymore, whereas in the past they helped cavemen survive. Peanuts being one of the funkier and "earthiest" foods we have anymore triggers that primal defense You make it sound like it has nothing to do with getting rid of the Pledge of Allegiance in schools.

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 13 2019 09:41 AM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

lol...I'm also not overlooking this so-called "vaccine" program.

seawolf17 Feb 13 2019 11:01 AM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

On behalf of all of us who have nut allergies, this is fan-goddamn-tastic. We have had to move our seats dozens of times over the years, at stadiums of all sizes, because someone around us had a bag of peanuts and was just throwing shit all over the floor. (This isn't an issue with Cracker Jacks.) Fuck peanuts. I hope they go the way of the bee.

dgwphotography Feb 13 2019 11:15 AM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

I am so fucking sick and tired of the tail wagging the dog... This is typical - I have a nut allergy so you can't have any... Here's an idea, how about declaring sections nut free instead of an entire stadium? My God-daughter has a horrific nut allergy, so much so, that my sister-in-law was able to get funding for a service dog especially trained to detect nuts. So we are very much in tune with what has to be done for her. But this is fucking nuts.

Lefty Specialist Feb 13 2019 12:02 PM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

Hope they fix the third stanza where they sing about blackface minstrels. (Oh, just kidding)

metsmarathon Feb 13 2019 02:01 PM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

=dgwphotography post_id=2849 time=1550081714 user_id=78] I am so fucking sick and tired of the tail wagging the dog... This is typical - I have a nut allergy so you can't have any... Here's an idea, how about declaring sections nut free instead of an entire stadium? My God-daughter has a horrific nut allergy, so much so, that my sister-in-law was able to get funding for a service dog especially trained to detect nuts. So we are very much in tune with what has to be done for her. But this is fucking nuts.

i mean, it'd be one thing if it were a gluten-free stadium.



but shame on this team for not wanting people to have to worry about accidentally dying just for trying to see a ballgame.

Centerfield Feb 13 2019 02:26 PM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

=dgwphotography post_id=2849 time=1550081714 user_id=78] I am so fucking sick and tired of the tail wagging the dog... This is typical - I have a nut allergy so you can't have any... Here's an idea, how about declaring sections nut free instead of an entire stadium? My God-daughter has a horrific nut allergy, so much so, that my sister-in-law was able to get funding for a service dog especially trained to detect nuts. So we are very much in tune with what has to be done for her. But this is fucking nuts.

I would imagine that the section idea was weighed and found insufficient due to the risk of cross-contamination.



Like anything else, it's a balancing of priorities. For me, it's the following:



1. Love of eating peanuts at a ballgame. (and I love eating peanuts at a ballgame).



versus



2. Some kid a few rows away might go into anaphylactic shock and die.



So I choose to give up the peanuts.



Your mileage may vary.

nymr83 Feb 13 2019 03:41 PM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

what about other allergies? we can have food-free stadiums that nobody attends!

Centerfield Feb 14 2019 08:59 AM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

=nymr83 post_id=2863 time=1550097685 user_id=54] what about other allergies? we can have food-free stadiums that nobody attends!

Other allergies, like all decisions, should be considered on a case by case basis weighing the benefits of both sides. Prevalence, severity of effects, and the ability to effectively contain the substance, the inconvenience to others, etc.



Those for it should come in without a sense of entitlement and recognize that a sacrifice is being made by those unaffected. Those against it should be open-minded and try to see things from the other's point of view.

Centerfield Feb 14 2019 09:38 AM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

I think this line from dgw's post was particularly illustrative. I am so fucking sick and tired of the tail wagging the dog... This is typical - I have a nut allergy so you can't have any... This is not about peanuts. Obviously. This is about a frustration, an erosion of patience felt by some at having to change their way of life. The fortunate many feel like they are being put out again and again to accommodate the less fortunate few. That's why seemingly innocuous changes are met with such resistance. The "Seriously? What's next?!?!?" reaction. And I get it. Things are tougher now. You can't eat peanuts at the ballpark. You have to ask guests in advance about dietary restrictions. You can't smoke at bars and restaurants because those in the food service industry don't want lung cancer. You have three bathrooms to choose from now, and when you finally make your way inside, one of the stalls has bars on the side, a toilet that's a too high to be comfortable, and is way too wide for no reason. Good stairway space is lost to ramps, boys' athletic teams have lost funding because girls want to play sports, and you can't even end your Kiss-Cam segment with a light-hearted homophobic joke. During the holidays, you are forced to either consider the faith of the person you're addressing, or go with the generic "Happy Holidays" when all you're trying to do in the first place is be nice. You have to give women equal pay, you can't grab them unless they want to be grabbed, people give you shit about preying on underage girls even if it was a really, really long time ago. You can't ask Asian people "no where are you really from", you have to give gay couples marriage licenses and wedding cakes, you have to say IL instead of DL, you can't wear blackface, I mean, when is it going to end? And no, I'm not trying to attack DGW or NYMR or anyone else. I'm just saying there should be perspective. Open-mindedness on both sides. In any debate there will be irrational response on each extreme. Everyone should strive to be one of the rational ones in the middle.

seawolf17 Feb 14 2019 10:36 AM Re: Writers, Start Your Pencils

Our stadium here in Rochester has a nut-free section, and I appreciate that. And if we decide to sit elsewhere, then I'm 43 and I can handle myself if someone near us is eating peanuts. I don't like it, but I also don't make a scene (or even say anything) - we'll just move if there's space for us to do so or if the smell is particularly bad. It's not worth the aggravation on anyone's part for me to say anything, and as I said, I could have avoided it by sitting in the allocated section but chose not to do so. But that said, CF's point is spot on, as are all of his similar points about things like smoking. Is it "harder"? Yeah, maybe that's one perspective, but it's BETTER for everyone involved, and that's really the ultimate point. There are plenty of things/vices/foods that people do/eat/drink, or can do/eat/drink, that don't impact anyone. Want to eat an Almond Joy in my office? Go for it. Doesn't bother me in the least, because that doesn't affect my allergy. But a Snickers? Yeah, it does. Want a cigarette outside the building where other people have to walk? Fuck you. I spent a night in the hospital two years because I inadvertently ate a nut, and it fucked me up for a few days after that. Your right to enjoy a peanut at a baseball game doesn't supersede my right to breathe. Maybe banning peanuts at the ballpark is "too far" for some folks, but if it keeps people from having deadly allergic reactions, yeah, I'm down with that. Nobody's saying you can't have nuts, much like nobody's saying you can't smoke. You just can't do it in tight quarters where there's the potential for injury. Your right to swing your fist ends at the bridge of your neighbor's nose. Our neighbor has a windchime on their porch. DRIVES. ME. BANANAS. But it doesn't cause me any harm, so have at it, friend. But there's a difference between "doesn't cause harm" and "literally could kill someone."