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#metoo

A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2019 09:18 AM

Turns out Ryan Adams is not just an asshole, but a gross asshole, too. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/arts/music/ryan-adams-women-sex.html So glad my walls are adorned with a bunch of his framed concert posters and my records shelves full of this guy's shit.

Centerfield Feb 14 2019 10:01 AM Re: #metoo

I never trusted that guy. He was what, 10 years old during the summer of '69? Freakin' liar. Wait who? Ryan Adams? I got nothing.

Fman99 Feb 14 2019 10:12 AM Re: #metoo

Yeah I don't know who that is. I'm blissfully ignorant of pop stars these days, I think it explains my overall satisfaction with life.

A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2019 10:23 AM Re: #metoo

=Centerfield post_id=2892 time=1550163666 user_id=65] I never trusted that guy. He was what, 10 years old during the summer of '69? Freakin' liar. Wait who? Ryan Adams? I got nothing.

People used to fuck with him, request that song at his shows, and he would famously lose his shit over it. I guess it's not surprising that a guy who has unabashedly been a jerk his whole career (and maybe his whole life) would not also be a creepy, manipulative jerk with women, too, but I guess I was a fan boi pollyanna. Time to redecorate my walls anyway.

Centerfield Feb 14 2019 10:27 AM Re: #metoo

A Boy Named Seo wrote: =Centerfield post_id=2892 time=1550163666 user_id=65] I never trusted that guy. He was what, 10 years old during the summer of '69? Freakin' liar. Wait who? Ryan Adams? I got nothing. People used to fuck with him, request that song at his shows, and he would famously lose his shit over it. I guess it's not surprising that a guy who has unabashedly been a jerk his whole career (and maybe his whole life) would not also be a creepy, manipulative jerk with [CROSSOUT]women[/CROSSOUT] underage girls, too, but I guess I was a fan boi pollyanna. Time to redecorate my walls anyway.

Agree wholeheartedly with one small edit.

A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2019 10:29 AM Re: #metoo

Yeah I don't know who that is. I'm blissfully ignorant of pop stars these days, I think it explains my overall satisfaction with life. You probably know him even if you think you don't. "New York, New York" was a smash hit for him in 2001 off of Gold. He's put out a ton of records, received plenty of critical acclaim, and famously feuded with other musicians (the Strokes, Old 97s) and journalists along the way. Also, he's gross.

seawolf17 Feb 14 2019 10:38 AM Re: #metoo

Ugh. I'm a big fan too, but this is pretty damning.

smg58 Feb 14 2019 10:51 AM Re: #metoo

I remember liking the song "New York" and getting that CD, looking in the inside booklet and finding multiple pictures that included a gun, and thinking, "he's a jerk." And it's not like I don't have plenty of music from jerks in my collection, but most of them are either not so jerky as to turn me off completely, indispensable enough that I would cut them slack, and/or not so seemingly proud of the jerky side of their personality. Adams fit none of the above categories.

41Forever Feb 14 2019 01:58 PM Re: #metoo

I liked “New York, New York” and some of the songs when he completely covered Taylor Swift's 1989. But he sure did come off like a jerk.

Vic Sage Feb 14 2019 02:42 PM Re: #metoo

I prefer the Sinatra version.

MFS62 Feb 14 2019 03:15 PM Re: #metoo

=Centerfield post_id=2892 time=1550163666 user_id=65] I never trusted that guy. He was what, 10 years old during the summer of '69? Freakin' liar. Wait who? Ryan Adams? I got nothing.

Same here. Until I followed the link, I was thinking about Bryan Adams. I don't remember ever hearing that song.



Later

A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2019 04:16 PM Re: #metoo

My beef with Bryan Adams started with that Robin Hood soundtrack ballad, way before Ryan was a known dickhead. I just canceled my (green vinyl!) pre-order of Ryan's new record. None of this is making me happy.

whippoorwill Feb 14 2019 05:17 PM Re: #metoo

Already maxed out on NY Times articles for the month. Is it the same New York, New York?

Edgy MD Feb 14 2019 06:10 PM Re: #metoo

No, it's different. What was nauseating about that article was how consistent his behavior has been. And how consistent the wreckage was. Female after female either quit the business explicitly or, like his ex-wife, just fell away, losing their momentum, confidence, and creative spark.

Frayed Knot Feb 14 2019 06:36 PM Re: #metoo

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Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 14 2019 07:00 PM Re: #metoo

FBI is onto him. Guy's always been a mental case and a dick. I learned that reading that book about him. The only thing you could say in his "defense" is that his abuse also extends at times to his non-young-female musicians, his crew and audiences too.

kcmets Feb 14 2019 07:29 PM Re: #metoo

That 'summer of '69 song' is about the extent of what I knew about the guy. I was better off until today.

A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2019 07:41 PM Re: #metoo

=kcmets post_id=2944 time=1550197778 user_id=53] That 'summer of '69 song' is about the extent of what I knew about the guy. I was better off until today.

I don't know if that was a joke, but wrong guy! Poor Bryan Adams right now. Worst time to get conflated for another dude.



I flipped my pre-order $$ for that Ryan Adams record (which has since been shelved) over to Me Too Movement. They can better use that $30.

kcmets Feb 14 2019 07:48 PM Re: #metoo

My total duh.

Edgy MD Feb 14 2019 09:54 PM Re: #metoo

His burning down of Whiskeytown makes Lindsey Buckingham look like a prince.

seawolf17 Feb 15 2019 04:30 AM Re: #metoo

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Guy's always been a mental case and a dick. I learned that reading that book about him. The only thing you could say in his "defense" is that his abuse also extends at times to his non-young-female musicians, his crew and audiences too. Yes, this. He generally acknowledges that he's a jerk, too, but that doesn't excuse any of this.

cal sharpie Feb 15 2019 08:15 AM Re: #metoo

I saw him and Parker Posey together at a Bob Dylan concert in 2003. Can't say I have heard his music.

Centerfield Feb 15 2019 08:46 AM Re: #metoo

http://metaltalk.net/images11/bryan_adams.jpg> Official Statement from Bryan Adams: I am deeply disappointed to hear about the allegations brought against Ryan Adams. I have known Ryan to be a talented musician and a gifted songwriter, but nothing can excuse the behavior of which he is accused. I hope that a full and thorough investigation will bring clarity to the situation, and I pray that his victims can recover and heal. Most importantly, I would like to stress that I am not him. I am a beloved Canadian singer-songwriter, producer, activist and philanthropist. Please don't mistake me for this douchebag. I'm not without faults, but pretty much my biggest fuckup was that Robin Hood song. I remain sorry about that. In the meantime, I hope we can all get past this. Rock on!

seawolf17 Feb 15 2019 09:16 AM Re: #metoo

Let me state also for the record that I enjoy the hell out of that stupid Robin Hood song. Also that goofy tri-et with Sting and Rod Stewart.

kcmets Feb 15 2019 10:08 AM Re: #metoo

Please don't mistake me for this douchebag. Won't happen again, sir.

Centerfield Feb 15 2019 10:14 AM Re: #metoo

=seawolf17 post_id=2966 time=1550247402 user_id=91] Let me state also for the record that I enjoy the hell out of that stupid Robin Hood song. Also that goofy tri-et with Sting and Rod Stewart.

Wow, that worked out really well. Aging pop star. Goofy movie set in medieval times. You know what we should try for our next goofy movie set in medieval times? Three aging pop stars!

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 15 2019 10:47 AM Re: #metoo

Please don't mistake me for this douchebag. Won't happen again, sir. One of the many stories about what a penis the guy is comes from losing his shit when the Weisenheimers in the audience at his shows would shout out "Summer of 69!!!" I believer he eventually slayed this dragon when he covered it but geez he easily could have changed his stage name to Adam Ryan, or Fester Adams or something.

whippoorwill Feb 15 2019 10:52 AM Re: #metoo

=Centerfield post_id=2892 time=1550163666 user_id=65] I never trusted that guy. He was what, 10 years old during the summer of '69? Freakin' liar. Wait who? Ryan Adams? I got nothing.

LOL I just looked and this is literally true of Bryan Adams...actually nine years old

HahnSolo Feb 15 2019 11:38 AM Re: #metoo

Bryan has said that the Summer of '69 was not referring to 1969...it was th--well, you know.

LWFS Feb 18 2019 12:13 AM Re: #metoo

I have enjoyed his music at points in the past, especially Heartbreaker. But it was tougher for me to make time for his music the more I heard about his douchebaggery. Funny thing is, traditionally, these sorts of allegations have tended to raise the question of whether we can separate the art from the artist. What's been gratifying of late is that we seem to be moving away from that. I mean, at a certain point, why make that weighing when there are SO many others who make art/comedy/beloved sitcoms who don't destroy the lives of others in the offing? (Hell, one of his accusers, Phoebe Bridgers, is a crazy-talented singer-songwriter herself.)

Edgy MD Feb 18 2019 06:25 AM Re: #metoo

=seawolf17 post_id=2966 time=1550247402 user_id=91] Let me state also for the record that I enjoy the hell out of that stupid Robin Hood song. Also that goofy tri-et with Sting and Rod Stewart.

They have medication for that.

seawolf17 Feb 18 2019 07:27 AM Re: #metoo

Edgy MD wrote: Let me state also for the record that I enjoy the hell out of that stupid Robin Hood song. Also that goofy tri-et with Sting and Rod Stewart. They have medication for that. "Tell your doctor - preferably your psychiatrist - if you've listened to 'All For One' for more than four hours."

A Boy Named Seo Feb 18 2019 03:05 PM Re: #metoo

I have enjoyed his music at points in the past, especially Heartbreaker. But it was tougher for me to make time for his music the more I heard about his douchebaggery. Funny thing is, traditionally, these sorts of allegations have tended to raise the question of whether we can separate the art from the artist. What's been gratifying of late is that we seem to be moving away from that. I mean, at a certain point, why make that weighing when there are SO many others who make art/comedy/beloved sitcoms who don't destroy the lives of others in the offing? (Hell, one of his accusers, Phoebe Bridgers, is a crazy-talented singer-songwriter herself.) I like this take. I've been (personally) sick that I've spent so much time and money on this dude, but I'm not trying to make excuses to I can still listen to the out-of-print copy of Jacksonville City Nights I just bought like 10 fuckin days ago. btw - if you guys know any dickheads and/or creeps looking for Ryan Adams vinyl, HMU (and agreed, Phoebe is amazing. That boygenius EP last year was one of my favorite things and her new collab w/ Conor Oberst called Better Oblivion Community Center is super good. I just learned that she has a song she wrote about Ryan Adams that is worth a listen and lyric read-along). [YOUTUBE]9sfYpolGCu8[/YOUTUBE]

LWFS Feb 19 2019 12:56 AM Re: #metoo

"Motion Sickness!" I loved that song BEFORE I knew about the inspiration. The solo stuff of her boygenius bandmate Julien Baker is pretty aces, too. [YOUTUBE]MdBu21i9aEE[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]wmGVIvf8Q6s[/YOUTUBE]

A Boy Named Seo Feb 19 2019 09:19 AM Re: #metoo

Since we're loving on boygenius, Lucy's record last year is my favorite done by any of these three talented badasses. It was the #1 record of 2018 according to Paste Magazine, and #2 on the prestigious "A Boy Named Seo's favorite rekkids of 2k18" list. [YOUTUBE]0WDZdT04ls4[/YOUTUBE]