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The Tides (Still) Wait For No Man
Rotblatt Apr 04 2006 12:58 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 05 2006 07:47 AM |
Taking the cue from JD, here's the thread to track our AAA Tides, whose first game is Thursday, April 6--the beginning of a four-game series against the Durham Bulls.
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MFS62 Apr 04 2006 01:51 PM |
With a lot of last round cuts, that squad should be playing in a AAAA League.
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Edgy DC Apr 06 2006 12:47 PM |
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Mitch Wylie, we already know, refused his assignment. Filling his spot, the Mets have plucked Seton Hall infield product Ray Navarette out of thin air.
They're not showing Soler, who may well have gone to extended spring training until a spot opens up. So I'm guessing the rotation is Gonzalez, Lima, Iriki, Scobie, Maine?
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Rotblatt Apr 06 2006 10:16 PM |
Well, the Tides got crushed by the Bulls tonight, 8-0.
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Edgy DC Apr 06 2006 10:20 PM |
Smiley Wiley ends up a Metty after all. Howsaboutthat?
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Rotblatt Apr 07 2006 12:14 PM |
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From BP:
Roster breakdown from the Virginia Pilot:
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Rotblatt Apr 07 2006 12:16 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 07 2006 01:55 PM |
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Also from the [url=http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=102679&ran=192500]Pilot[/url]:
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Edgy DC Apr 07 2006 12:23 PM |
By the way, minor league umpires are on strike arnd being replaced by scabs whose names aren't being released. Review the issues and see if you want to support your minor-league umpires.
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Rotblatt Apr 09 2006 06:31 AM |
Norfolk game called on account of rain yesterday.
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Rotblatt Apr 12 2006 07:57 AM |
Tides won their second game last night, 6-4, as Lima pitched 6 strong innings, allowing 4 hits and 1 earned run while striking out 3. He didn't walk anyone.
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Rotblatt Apr 19 2006 10:53 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 19 2006 11:21 AM |
Iriki's been released.
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Elster88 Apr 19 2006 10:56 AM |
Matsui is hitting better than Keppinger??
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Yancy Street Gang Apr 19 2006 10:57 AM |
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Wow. I have to at least ask, why are we diddling around with Jose Valentin in left field?
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Elster88 Apr 19 2006 10:59 AM |
Excellent question. I'm not able to answer it.
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Centerfield Apr 19 2006 11:04 AM |
Where's Alay Soler?
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Edgy DC Apr 19 2006 11:14 AM |
I'm certain that it hasn't so much to do with free agency clocks but rather putting the long-term needs of Milledge's development ahead of the short-term needs of outfielders for this series. Disagree with that as you may.
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Yancy Street Gang Apr 19 2006 11:20 AM |
I think that's the case too. And by asking the question, I wasn't necessarily advocating Milledge's promotion.
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*62 Apr 19 2006 11:34 AM |
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st. lucie 17K and 8H in 15 IP (3 starts) ........ 0.60 ERA ........ 1.00 WHIP He's dominating http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=507
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Centerfield Apr 19 2006 11:38 AM |
Thanks 62. Couldn't help but notice from your link that we have an Edgar Alfonzo pitching! Is that who I think it is?
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Edgy DC Apr 19 2006 11:43 AM |
Not convinced either and I'm sure it's come up.
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Frayed Knot Apr 19 2006 12:12 PM |
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Conditions vary depending on the status of the guy you're calling up, but here's what would be involved with Milledge: - He's not yet on the 40-man roster so would need to be added first. That would entail taking someone off it such as was done when adding Feliciano (and while I doubt too many are crying over the loss of Iriki, with the lack of starting depth at the ML level you never know when a guy like him might be valuable - even if only temporarily). - 2006 would become his first "option year". This is probably small potatoes as I suspect we'll see him at some point this year anyway even if it's not until Sept call-ups. Plus, if he's as good as projected than you're not going to be worried about have the ability to farm him out 3 years down the road. And if he's not as good as projected ... - You'd also "start the clock" on his ML service time which *MIGHT* speed up his eligibility for Arb and FA. If it's only a temp call-up the 10-15 days he's active won't change a thing. I doubt we'll see him anytime soon. If Beltran needs DL-ing than Diaz comes back and if Beltran isn't DL'ed than there's no room for him. The '4-into-3' theory works OK if you've got guys who are mix-n-match types but it's not like a healthy Beltran, Floyd or even Nady as he's hitting now are going to sit out much and you're not going to bring Lastings up just to platoon. At least not yet.
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Edgy DC Apr 19 2006 12:18 PM |
Yeah, but it's not like they're healthy right now. And part of that strategy is getting and keeping them healthy.
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Frayed Knot Apr 19 2006 12:27 PM |
"I can't see why anybody whould have a large problem not starting once every fifth or sixth day instead of every tenth"
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Edgy DC Apr 19 2006 12:34 PM |
Well, 17-20% of their starts, anyway, but
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Frayed Knot Apr 19 2006 12:41 PM |
I want the big bats in my lineup starting more than 130 games/year and am not real anxious to have my #1 prospect sitting even more often instead of playing everyday at AAA.
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Edgy DC Apr 19 2006 12:47 PM |
Well, the assumption (this conversation is in the wrong thread) was Dickshot's scenario "Millege called up temporarily and rakes" which I assume to mean that he hit as good as or better than at least one of the "big bats."
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Rotblatt Apr 21 2006 11:07 AM |
4/20/06
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duan Apr 21 2006 11:12 AM |
thing is, if milledge comes up he can play centre and possibly hit, unlike for example, ENDY CHAVEZ, who we are currently running out there. Bringing Diaz back up DOES not stop that.
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Elster88 Apr 21 2006 11:16 AM |
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It's well documented that I think Kaz is a better player. But this sounds like the ideal #2 hitter to me if that doesn't work out. High OBP. Can he run?
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Rotblatt Apr 21 2006 11:28 AM |
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Not so much. He's got 26 career minor league steals in 3 years, and he's never broken more than 10 steals in a year. His career SB% is 68.4%. This year, over 14% of his plate appearances have resulted in a walk. Over his minor league career, that number is 7.8%. His start could very well wind up being a fluke or a minor uptick instead of a dramatic change, but at the very least, it's encouraging. Milledge career: 7.3% PA resulting in BB Milledge 2005: 7.2% Milledge 2006: 18% Again, it might be flukey. FWIW, the rest of the Tides haven't seen a similar uptick, so it's probably NOT as simple as the pitchers being shitty, but they might be working around Milledge in a weak lineup (stupid idea, IMO, since he's leading off and has good speed). Last night, however, Red Wing starter JD Durbin WAS pretty wild, walking 7 in just 4.3 IP.
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Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 06:59 PM |
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From Adam Rubin's blog:
I guess we didnt lose him after all, someone said we had.
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Frayed Knot Apr 21 2006 10:00 PM |
Iriki was "designated for assignment" which isn't the same thing as losing him it just means that the Mets had a specific time for deciding what to do with him after removing him from the 40-man roster (a move made to promote Feliciano).
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Rotblatt Apr 24 2006 07:27 AM |
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[url=http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/minor-matters-breaking-down-the-hitters-hot-starts/]Chris Constancio[/url] from Hardball Times on Lastings Milledge's hot start:
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Rotblatt Apr 24 2006 07:52 AM |
The Tides continue to struggle, losing to Rochester 2-6 and splitting a double header against Richmond yesterday (1-0, 1-4).
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Edgy DC Apr 24 2006 10:22 AM |
The Mets have to find some bats to store at AAA. This could hurt the big-league club soon, if it hasn't already.
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Rotblatt Apr 25 2006 07:42 AM |
Tides got shut out by the Braves on at Norfolk last night, 2-0.
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Rotblatt Apr 27 2006 05:09 PM |
4/25: Tides Hand Scranton's Paper Merchants 10th Win in a Row
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MFS62 Apr 27 2006 05:57 PM |
Despite what the clever title of the thread says, it appears the Tides are waiting for a man or two who can drive in some runs.
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Frayed Knot Apr 30 2006 10:54 PM |
- Heath Bell notched career minor-league save No. 100 last Sunday.
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Edgy DC Apr 30 2006 11:25 PM |
Nice. But last time I checked (one post ago), Norfolk needed bats.
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Edgy DC May 01 2006 07:57 AM |
For what it's worth, Michael Tucker went .323 / .417 / .419 // .836 in 36 plate appearances for the Carolina Mudcats.
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Frayed Knot May 01 2006 11:12 PM |
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And Mars needs women, but sometimes you just have to be patient. Actually, from the same blog; ... Tagg Bozied, released by the Padres this month, has joined the Mets organization. The Scott Boras client had received a $700,000 bonus when he joined San Diego after being selected in the third round in 2001. But the power-hitting first baseman ruptured a knee tendon and dislocated his knee in ’04 while jumping onto home plate to celebrate a walk-off homer – an injury he initially feared would be career-ending. Bozied, 26, hit a combined .293 with five homers and 22 RBI in 99 at-bats last season for Triple-A Portland and Double-A Mobile I remember this guy a little bit from a few years back - mostly from the name. He was a prospect of some note back then, probably about the same time as Nady. No word on where he winds up but you'd have to figure it would be in Norfolk sooner rather than later.
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Edgy DC May 01 2006 11:17 PM |
If he's been floating, he'll probably go to extended spring training first to get in game shape.
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Edgy DC May 04 2006 11:34 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 06 2006 12:26 AM |
Tides Find What They've Been Waiting For
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Rotblatt May 05 2006 12:08 AM |
It sounds like the parent Mets requested Lima be limited to two innings.
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Gwreck May 05 2006 01:25 AM |
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No worries. Maine officially announced as Sunday's starter before Thursday's game.
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Edgy DC May 06 2006 12:38 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 06 2006 01:48 PM |
Norfolk Juggernaut Rolls On
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MFS62 May 06 2006 10:34 AM |
Nice.
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Rotblatt May 08 2006 05:08 PM |
Tides lose the next two games to split their 4-game series against the MFC, falling to 9-22.
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Edgy DC May 09 2006 01:03 PM |
Mud Hens Washed away by Tides
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smg58 May 09 2006 10:11 PM |
MacLane is up at Norfolk? I saw him in Binghamton a couple of weeks ago and he looked like nothing special. I guess all the pitching adjustments at the major league level have rippled through the system.
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Rotblatt May 10 2006 07:57 AM |
Tides lost again, 4-2. Milledge committed his first error (throwing) of the season in the bottom of the third. He continued to show his strong eye at the plate, however, drawing 2 walks on an 0-2 night.
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Edgy DC May 10 2006 08:22 AM |
They win when I'm in the press corps.
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Edgy DC May 10 2006 10:09 AM |
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Three Bingo pitchers in five days have become Tides. Ryan Cullen, Evan MacLane, and RHP Orlando Roman. It's as much a reflection of the injuries of the parent club as a reward for jobs well done.
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Rotblatt May 10 2006 10:55 AM |
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Sure, rub it in, Edgy.
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Edgy DC May 15 2006 12:13 PM |
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Evan MacLane is the winner of the International League Pitcher of the Week.
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Gwreck May 19 2006 02:17 AM |
Joe Hietpas, star reliever.
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MFS62 May 19 2006 06:29 AM |
Omigosh,
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Edgy DC May 19 2006 07:30 AM |
Zac Clements has also mopped up this year. Too many spills to mop.
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Edgy DC May 20 2006 01:20 AM |
The Tides joined the Mets in gaining a ninth-inning mopup win, with help from some sloppy Mud Hens.
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Willets Point May 22 2006 02:07 AM |
I'm planning on seeing the Tides in Pawtucket on Memorial Day. Who should I be keeping my eye on?
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Rotblatt May 22 2006 07:38 AM |
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There's this young outfielder called "Lastings Milledge" whom I think might be good . . . ;-) Actually, check out how he works pitchers. He's continued to draw walks, even while struggling to get hits. He's batting .277 but has a .435 OBP and a 31/35 BB/K ratio, which is pretty damn good. Tagg Bozied (1B) recently got signed and has been hot over his first 6 games--3 doubles and a HR over six innings. He's 27 and spent his career in the Padres minor league system--drafted out of college in the 3rd round 2001. He crushed AAA pitching in 2004, then it looks like he got injured in 2005--he had only 99 AB that year. He's had one cuppa, where he hit .182 with a HR and a couple walks. They're really is about it, though. Everyone else is struggling, except for MacLane & a bunch of relief pitchers. Hernandez is batting .350 but with zero power. Lambin will have a good game, then struggle for a week. Diaz is batting .242 with zero power.
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Frayed Knot May 30 2006 02:41 PM |
BA:
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MFS62 May 30 2006 02:58 PM |
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BA , get with the program. He's a lefty. LAter
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Edgy DC May 31 2006 04:37 PM |
The Tides beat Pawtucket 3-2 last night.
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Frayed Knot Jun 16 2006 02:46 PM |
Met fan contacts ASK BA wanting to know about Evan MacLane
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Frayed Knot Jun 21 2006 10:05 AM |
More MacLane:
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MFS62 Jun 21 2006 12:15 PM |
Anyone who considers him a "soft tosser" should have to stand at home plate while that 88 MPH soft toss is aimed at his head.
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Willets Point Jul 25 2006 02:26 PM |
Bump for Tides update.
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Elster88 Jul 26 2006 04:56 PM |
Royce Ring: 2-0 2.76, 32.3 IP, 23 H, 15 BB, 32 K, 1.16 WHIP, 0 HR, 3 HBP
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Frayed Knot Aug 19 2006 11:34 PM |
Oliver Perez: 7 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 11 K (wasn't there a bet along these lines?)
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Edgy DC Aug 24 2006 02:07 PM |
YOU COMPLETE ME: Monday night's complete game victory for Evan MacLane was Norfolk's first complete game of the season, and first since Pat Strange hurled a nine-inning complete game on August 9, 2004. The complete game win was the first for Norfolk in 302 games, and gave MacLane his 12th win this year, the most among Mets' Minor Leaguers this season. MacLane didn't have much time to enjoy his accomplishment, as he was traded to the Arizona Diamondbacks organization on Tuesday in exchange for outfielder Shawn Green and cash considerations. MacLane made 20 starts with the Tides this season, going 9-8 with a 3.86 ERA.
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