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Being Cleon Jones

Willets Point Apr 05 2006 10:20 PM

A picture says a thousand words:

cooby Apr 05 2006 10:21 PM

Cleon with that way cool scar on his face! Made me think maybe he was in a switchblade fight!

Willets Point Apr 05 2006 10:21 PM

Some of those words: "Are those six Orioles fans out there? They don't look too excited."

Edgy DC Apr 05 2006 10:25 PM

Don't you forget about Cle'.

cleonjones11 Apr 05 2006 10:36 PM

Amen

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2006 10:48 PM

Willets Point wrote: Some of those words: "Are those six Orioles fans out there? They don't look too excited." I doubt it. Remember those were temporary seats at that time (the current picnic area/stands had not yet been erected) and, IIRC, those temp seats were reserved for returning and disabled vets. A closer look shows some of those front-row types aren't sitting in indifference but rather are in wheelchairs.

ScarletKnight41 Apr 05 2006 10:50 PM

cooby wrote: Cleon with that way cool scar on his face! Made me think maybe he was in a switchblade fight! cooby obviously goes for the bad boys.

Willets Point Apr 05 2006 10:50 PM

Yea, I caught the wheel chairs of the three men on the left on further inspection. Still, no smiles or arms in the air or any outward sign of joy that the Mets just won the World Series. Pictures lie though

Edgy DC Apr 05 2006 11:00 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 06 2006 07:58 AM

Other shots of that and the Agee catch suggest that there were a disporportionate number of black patrons out there, almost seeming like segregated seating. I imagine that also might be linked to them being returning vets. Thanks for letting me know that.

Bret Sabermetric Apr 06 2006 06:21 AM

Milledge is the new Cleon. I remember when he first came up he was touted as a solution to the CF problem. He was speedy, he could play the outfield, why not CF? His fielding must have done something to discourage that because, although CF was an open position (there were several such on the 1960s Mets) he ceased playing CF pretty damned quick. (I'll have to check this memory with UMDB.) Seems to me he ended up playing the easiest OF position pretty early on, suggesting some limitations to his fielding which were obviously not speed-related. OE: According to UMDB, Cleon actually was the regular CFer until Agee arrived. I'd thought he been moved out for Billy Cowan, Don Bosch and a cast of thousands, but I guess that experiment didn't get as far as I'd thought. UMDB memories also state that Cleon got his scar sailing through a car's windshield as a teenager--anyone else remember reading this?

Frayed Knot Apr 06 2006 09:33 AM

I don't have any specific memories of him being a disaster in CF although there were several anecdotes in that 'Tales from the Mets Dugout' book which said he was. One mentioned that a few front-office types were touting that he be moved there for the post-Agee era but manager Yogi knew better from remembering earlier stints and never took the suggestion seriously.

Bret Sabermetric Apr 06 2006 09:44 AM

Interesting. Did you notice that in the first post in this thread the ball looks like a decimal point? 3.71

soupcan Apr 06 2006 09:53 AM

="Bret Sabermetric"]Interesting. Did you notice that in the first post in this thread the ball looks like a decimal point? 3.71 A quick look at baseballreference.com reveals that Jerry Koosman's era in 1985 while with the Phillies was 3.71! Eerie.

RealityChuck Apr 06 2006 12:04 PM

Jones still needs to get a major apology by the Mets for the humiliation inflicted upon him by M. Donald Grant. (And, no, this has nothing to do with anything he did on the field.)

Yancy Street Gang Apr 06 2006 12:06 PM

Unfortunately M. Donald Grant is dead at the present time. That little incident, however, did help propel me past, and eventually unseat, the reigning CPF Song Parody champion.

Edgy DC Apr 06 2006 12:13 PM

I think that if Cleon hasn't come to terms with that situation, it's on him.