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Elster88 Apr 06 2006 08:58 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 06 2006 09:00 PM |
I'm loving the Cohen/Hernandez combo. It's like listening to the radio while watching TV. Which I used to resort to.
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Iubitul Apr 06 2006 09:00 PM |
I couldn't agree more - Gary is always a great listen, and he has been giving Keith time to shine. I loved hearing about the differnt bats and their weights - I never heard about that weight/height ratio before...
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Johnny Dickshot Apr 06 2006 09:02 PM |
I get the HD feed. It's excellent.
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Elster88 Apr 06 2006 09:04 PM |
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What service do you have?
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Johnny Dickshot Apr 06 2006 09:04 PM |
Time warner in brooklyn
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A Boy Named Seo Apr 06 2006 09:05 PM |
I had the SNY feed on MLB.TV yesterday and there was no ball/strike/out indicator on-screen, no score, no inning, no network logo, nothing. Not a thing. Is that how it really is or was that just the MLB.TV version?
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OlerudOwned Apr 06 2006 09:06 PM |
I like the SNY Sportsnightdeskcenter show, it's better than MSG's and more local/less stupid than ESPN. Plus, they have one of the only anchors I could stomach from ESPN (Berthuime [sp?]).
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Willets Point Apr 06 2006 09:06 PM |
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You're right. How old school to have an uncluttered screen.
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Elster88 Apr 06 2006 09:08 PM |
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There's a fairly large box in the upper left corner with standard score, bases, out, and count indicator with an SNY logo. Another SNY logo in the upper right corner.
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Willets Point Apr 06 2006 09:12 PM |
Actually, I'm noticing now that online I don't see any graphics. For ex. stats for batters and in-game box score. I don't miss them too much personally but it's kind of odd.
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KC Apr 06 2006 09:16 PM |
ESPNHD is blacked out within prolly a 75 mile radius of Shea. Cablevision
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Iubitul Apr 06 2006 09:19 PM |
I can't believe that I didn't notice it - I love the old school/uncluttered look.
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Elster88 Apr 06 2006 09:20 PM |
Why would I ignore your posts?
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metirish Apr 06 2006 09:21 PM |
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Exactly....
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Johnny Dickshot Apr 06 2006 10:48 PM |
Nice suit, Kenny Choi. Just get out of prison?
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abogdan Apr 06 2006 10:54 PM |
Cohen and Hernandez were great this series. I really like how Hernandez talks strategy throughout the game - what the hitter is looking for, what the pitcher is looking for, why the catcher is calling what he's calling. Really good stuff.
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SI Metman Apr 06 2006 11:14 PM |
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Gary Cohen is doing the radio too. Actually it's ex-Phillies radio guy Tom McCarthy who sounds just like Cohen. He also took over the postgame Mets Extra duties. Eddie C has had the last 2 games with Howie having Islanders duties.
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Centerfield Apr 07 2006 11:54 AM |
Gary Cohen makes weird faces when he's talking.
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metirish Apr 07 2006 11:55 AM |
Yeah and he really leans towards Keith when they show them on the TV...
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Yancy Street Gang Apr 07 2006 12:11 PM |
I've noticed that too. Maybe he's uncomfortable knowing the camera is on him. One time when they cut to the booth, Gary seemed to be sitting normally, but immediately did that deferential leaning thing. Maybe it's a clause in Keith's contract?
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Elster88 Apr 07 2006 12:14 PM |
They might not be sure that they're in the frame, so they lean closer to each other?
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Centerfield Apr 07 2006 12:21 PM |
Maybe it's to keep warm.
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ScarletKnight41 Apr 08 2006 03:34 PM |
[url=www.sny.tv]SNY's Website[/url]
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Yancy Street Gang Apr 08 2006 03:35 PM |
Where has Ron Darling been? I haven't heard him on any of the telecasts.
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ScarletKnight41 Apr 08 2006 03:39 PM |
He's been in the studio.
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MFS62 Apr 08 2006 04:53 PM |
What's to discuss?
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Elster88 Apr 12 2006 12:02 AM |
Darling did the color today.
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Iubitul Apr 12 2006 09:26 AM |
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He sounded a little stiff - definitely not as good as Keith.
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abogdan Apr 12 2006 09:27 AM |
I didn't hear Darling on SNY, but a friend who lives in Washington said he was awful last year w/the Nats.
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Elster88 Apr 12 2006 09:30 AM |
Practice makes perfect.
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Edgy DC Apr 12 2006 09:44 AM |
Darling just seemed sleepy and stoney with the Nats last year.
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Yancy Street Gang Apr 12 2006 09:53 AM |
That's because he thinks too much.
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ScarletKnight41 Apr 12 2006 10:00 AM |
I like Mets Fast Forward, where you get the game in an hour in the morning.
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soupcan Apr 12 2006 10:01 AM |
Did you catch Darling's comment about the trivia question?
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metirish Apr 12 2006 10:04 AM |
I think Ron might suffer from a very high IQ.
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seawolf17 Apr 12 2006 10:04 AM |
It's a terrible curse that some of us bear, but we do it well.
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ScarletKnight41 Apr 12 2006 10:06 AM |
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That's one of the things I always loved about him.
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Edgy DC Apr 12 2006 10:27 AM |
I think he suffers from being sleepy and stoney.
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metirish Apr 12 2006 10:39 AM |
While rooting around for info on Darling I found this, I didn't know he pitched in the greatest college baseball game of all time, and against Frank Viola no less.
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soupcan Apr 12 2006 10:46 AM |
Old news irish. Any Mets fan worth his salt knows this.
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Johnny Dickshot Apr 12 2006 10:46 AM |
There's some good stuff on Young Ron Darling in the book Dollar Sign on the Muscle, which I whore every chance I get. The book follows the 1981 draft, when Darling was selected by Texas in the first round.
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Yancy Street Gang Apr 12 2006 10:46 AM |
And Smokey Joe Wood was in the stands watching the game.
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metirish Apr 12 2006 11:19 AM |
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In my defence in the early 1990's I was living in Ireland and probably had never even heard of the Mets let alone Ron Darling, so I learn everyday.
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Yancy Street Gang Apr 12 2006 11:27 AM |
Somehow, I don't know where or when, John Darling was murdered. I know this because Les Moore, a character in Funky Winkerbean wrote a book about the case.
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Edgy DC Apr 12 2006 11:29 AM |
Has either team been back to the College World Series since then?
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Johnny Dickshot Apr 12 2006 12:17 PM |
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Great story! I met Tom Armstrong once at an event. His nametag read: JOHN DARLING
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Edgy DC Apr 12 2006 12:29 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2006 12:53 AM |
Things I remember about John Darling Frame One: John Darling (beaming moronically at camera/reader): And we're here talking with Terry Bradshaw, star quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers, in town this week to face our own Maulers. Terry, there's some speculation that the Steelers may be looking past the Maulers toward next week's big showdown with the Houston Oilers. Is there anything to that?
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soupcan Apr 13 2006 12:42 AM |
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I figured as much irish. Just giving you a hard time.
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metirish Apr 13 2006 12:47 AM |
No problem Soupcan, I knew that, meanwhile you are Jeff Reardon.....he has to be Irish.
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GYC Apr 13 2006 06:59 PM |
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http://www.metsblog.com/blog/_archives/2006/4/13/1884402.html
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metirish Apr 13 2006 07:08 PM |
Excellent, the guys hear that listen to the Mets on MLB say that the inbetween innings talk between Gary and whoever is carried live, it's priceless.
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martin Apr 13 2006 09:20 PM |
email response i got from comcast jersey city:
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Centerfield Apr 14 2006 11:13 AM |
Is there a separate commercial thread? I was watching the replay last night and I want to know what idiot decided to air Derek Jeter commercials during Mets telecasts. And I know, I was watching the replay, but SNY should know that if anyone is sitting through a replay of the game, they must be a pretty big fan.
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metirish Apr 14 2006 11:14 AM |
I saw that CF and pretty much thought the same as you, like go to fuck Cappy.
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KC Apr 14 2006 01:42 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 14 2006 01:44 PM |
I meant to post this before, is Keith Hernandez on some kind of "suspension"
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Elster88 Apr 14 2006 01:43 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 14 2006 01:48 PM |
I haven't heard anything but the first thing that comes to mind is calling Nelson de la Rosa a monkey.
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Yancy Street Gang Apr 14 2006 01:48 PM |
I thought of the monkey comment, too.
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Centerfield Apr 14 2006 01:53 PM |
Hernandez and Aguilera, I believe, both have Spanish (as in from Spain) heritage.
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metsmarathon Apr 14 2006 01:55 PM |
the casual listener should consider that such comments regarding "stereotypical latino ballplayers" would generally refer to baseball skills and styles that are the result of social and cultural ideosyncracies, and not biological or genealogical.
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Elster88 Apr 14 2006 01:57 PM |
He doesn't actually use the phrase "stereoptypical Latino ballplayer", just makes a lot of comments along the lines "Latinos do this" or "Latinos play like that". Again, the quoted text is not actual quotes.
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Yancy Street Gang Apr 14 2006 02:00 PM |
I just Googled Keith Hernandez to see if there was any news of a suspension, and all I found is one person asking about it in a discussion group. When searching the web for Keith, his UMDB page was the third one listed! Wow! With such high Google page ranks, I wonder why I'm not making any money on the damn thing!
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Iubitul Apr 14 2006 02:02 PM |
If he is being punished for anything, it's gotta be the monkey comment.
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Iubitul Apr 14 2006 02:04 PM |
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Speaking of Google - upto two days ago, a search for "Mets Photography" would bring my site up first - now, it's completely gone from the search results...
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Yancy Street Gang Apr 14 2006 02:06 PM |
Did your site have any downtime recently? I've heard that you could lose your Google ranking if your site is unavailable when the Google spider comes calling.
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metsmarathon Apr 14 2006 02:07 PM |
oh, i know. i'm refering to statements such as "[group] plays like this", etc., be they domincans, cubans, japanese, or canadians. kids in different countries grow up playing the game in different ways, developing unique variations on skills, and prefering some combinations of such skills over others, resulting in certain similarities in style of play across large groups relative to other large groups.
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Iubitul Apr 14 2006 02:10 PM |
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Not that I know of - it's on Kase's server, and I think everything has been good. I just checked with a search of my full name, and it's not listed in those results, either...
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KC Apr 14 2006 02:16 PM |
Google is interesting. I did a search for Mets Photography and the Crane
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Elster88 Apr 14 2006 09:31 PM |
Ronnie again tonight. I feel like he's been good.
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GYC Apr 14 2006 09:39 PM |
From what I've heard from various Mets fans online, Keith Hernandez destroyed Piazza a few games ago and SNY overreacted and pulled him. He talked about how the Mets wouldn't have been as good this year because runners would be on 2nd. He then continued to say that runners would get a hit and next pitch would be standing safely on 2nd.
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Frayed Knot Apr 15 2006 12:02 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 15 2006 12:21 AM |
Seems to me that if Keith really has been pulled by SNY - temporarily or otherwise - then at least one of the media-centric newshounds in this town; Mushnick, Raissman, Best, Sandomir would have caught wind of it. Of course it's possible that the IFPSA has better sources on this stuff but I have my doubts.
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Edgy DC Apr 15 2006 12:08 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 15 2006 01:32 PM |
Because we're conspiracy theorists and we'll figure it out later. Um, maybe because the Mets have a lot more invested in Piazza than in Her... no, that's not it.
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mlbaseballtalk Apr 15 2006 12:48 AM |
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Too much snipping after Piazza has long since left could cause those around Piazza to overblow things and cause a rift between the Mets and Piazza, effectivly severing ties between the two
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Nymr83 Apr 15 2006 01:10 AM |
Piazza left on fairly good terms, if not for the arbitration rules theres a good chance he'd have been back too. The Mets don't want to ruin Piazza jersey-retirement day, Piazza in the HOF day, etc. in future years.
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ScarletKnight41 Apr 15 2006 08:31 AM |
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That theory makes the most sense to me. Also, Monday Morning Mets isn't coming up on Google either. However, both MMM and Mets Photography are front and center on Yahoo!'s search engine.
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Bret Sabermetric Apr 15 2006 08:46 AM |
CPFers need a court decision to be upheld on appeal before drawing any conspiracist anti-Mets conclusions. Until that day, assume that the Mets' organization isn't doing anything, toward or untoward. You simply cannot ever know these things, correct?
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KC Apr 15 2006 09:25 AM |
I wish I had more to go on than a half a call, and didn't mean to start anything.
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Frayed Knot Apr 15 2006 09:54 AM |
1) Neither Keith nor Darling were scheduled to work every game this season.
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KC Apr 16 2006 02:45 PM |
Mex-gate is over, the bum is vacationing in Barbados and will be back Monday.
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A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 02:45 PM |
Gary just said Keith will be back tomorrow and has been in Barbados. Suspend me!
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HahnSolo Apr 17 2006 12:07 PM |
Nice gig. Work a week then take a week's vacation.
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mlbaseballtalk Apr 17 2006 12:11 PM |
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Awww but this is the same franchise that decided to pick Steve Chilcott over Reggie Jackson because Reggie had a white girlfriend! This is the same organization that didn't want to pay ARod anything because they wanted to drive down the sale price of the organization and pushed Boras' phamplet about how ARod wanted merchandiceing tents SC=1962 the year Met Conspiracies started
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G-Fafif Apr 17 2006 01:24 PM |
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Same franchise. Different organization. Far different organization in 2006 from what it was in 1966. Tangibly different organization from what it was in 2000.
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Edgy DC Apr 17 2006 01:31 PM |
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It's also (a) untrue (the lady was Mexican), and (b) completely unsubstantiated. We've been through this, and he only real source this is Reggie Jackson himself, and even he acknowledges it's mere speculation.
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mlbaseballtalk Apr 17 2006 01:34 PM |
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Apparantly you didn't see the SC notation at the end of my post! ;)
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Edgy DC Apr 17 2006 01:37 PM |
Yup. Sorry. Reading your comment second hand.
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MFS62 Apr 17 2006 02:06 PM |
Since I've only had the service for a few days, I have a Gary Cohen question.
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Elster88 Apr 17 2006 02:10 PM |
Keith was on the FAN today. They called him to ask where he was. It sounded like he said Florida (so unless he misspoke he wasn't in the Barbados). He said he watched on DirecTV, so he didn't miss anything. He called Lo Duca "De Luca" the first time, started to say De Luca a second time but he corrected himself. Nothing interesting.
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Yancy Street Gang Apr 17 2006 02:15 PM |
If we're going to comment on wardrobe, I'd start with Keith's furry lapels on his sports jacket. Very metrosexual.
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KC Apr 17 2006 09:29 PM |
How many ads does Jeter have on SNY? I think we're up to four.
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Yancy Street Gang May 06 2006 01:08 PM |
Chris Cotter brings nothing to the table.
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metirish May 06 2006 01:17 PM |
Yeah and the studio hosts are brutal, no idea where they found them.
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OlerudOwned May 06 2006 01:51 PM |
They really need help with their on-screen scoreboard.
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HahnSolo May 11 2006 12:34 PM |
When are they going to start airing these Met Classics that I've seen a million commercials for? And will there be any games NOT from 1986?
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Edgy DC May 11 2006 12:37 PM |
I'd love to see lost classics --- the Steve Henderson walkoff from 1980, the ten-inning one-hitter from Terry Leach, the 10-run inning featuring an Inside-the-Parker from Doug Flynn.
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Willets Point May 11 2006 12:50 PM |
->the Steve Henderson walkoff from 1980<-
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abogdan May 11 2006 12:58 PM |
The next Mets Classic is scheduled for Tues, 5/16 at 1 PM. It's the same NL East clincher from 1986 that they've showed a few times already.
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Elster88 May 11 2006 01:18 PM |
I'd like the game were Orosco and McDowell(?) played the outfield.
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soupcan May 11 2006 01:20 PM |
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Speaking of Steve Henderson games - [url=http://www.ultimatemets.com/gamedetail.php?gameno=2656] this one[/url] has always been a fond memory for me. Silvio Martinez first ML start, tosses a one hitter.
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abogdan May 11 2006 01:29 PM |
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[url=http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B07220CIN1986.htm]7/22/86[/url] Great game. Daryl got tossed in the 6th for arguing a strike call. Ray Knight and Kevin Mitchell got tossed after a brawl in in extra innings. Gary Carter played 3B. Orosco and McDowell were both left in to hit twice.
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soupcan May 11 2006 01:41 PM |
I can still see Ray Knight's eyes bug out and face get all puffy dfter he popped Davis
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metirish May 11 2006 02:09 PM |
This fella is just so annoying...
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HahnSolo May 11 2006 03:31 PM |
That McDowell-Orosco game was all made possible by a Dave Parker drop of a routine fly that would have ended the game.
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metirish May 11 2006 04:39 PM |
One thing I have learned form watching Mets games on SNY is that Gary,Ron and Keith are just huge Jets fans, Gary being a 29 year season ticket holder, wish they would stop plugging the Woody Johnson show, like he's going to tell us anything worthwhile.
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Frayed Knot May 11 2006 11:05 PM |
It's about the only other original programming on that channel for now -- it's only natural that the station's going to want them humping it for all it's worth.
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Edgy DC Jun 01 2006 11:57 AM |
Last night was pretty unprecedented for a Mets broadcast, having two in-game interviews with uniform personnel --- bullpen coach Guy Conti, while he was charting the game, and starting pitcher Pedro Martinez shortly after he exited and while the Mets bats were turning his effort into a no-decision.
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Farmer Ted Jun 01 2006 12:07 PM |
Liked the Conti interview. I have no idea what goes on down there other than once having my seats overlook the pen from the loge. Hope they interview the bullpen catcher next.
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Vic Sage Jun 01 2006 12:14 PM |
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I'd never feel bad about catching a glimpse of a pretty gir naked... if she's a friend, she'd understand my lack of remorse. Similarly, if the upside of having to endure the awful broadcasts by this amateurish, mickey mouse network is that we get unprecedented access... well, i don't see the downside. Pedro was out of the game. The interview didn't interfere with him doing his job, or the play of the game. It illicited genuine responses in a way the more premeditated, prepared press conference-type interviews do not.
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Edgy DC Jun 01 2006 12:26 PM |
All that is absolutely so, but I guess the downside I feel is captured in your spelling of illicit. If the players feel they're bending over too much for the man (Pedro certainly seemed strained to tolerate Chris Kotter and bouffant), it'll give them one more reason to be resentful when things are going bad. Keith's been out of the game for 15 years and he's grousing about invasions of players' space.
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metirish Jun 01 2006 12:53 PM |
I thought the interview with Pedro was a high point for Cotter, he's a total bollox, I sensed that Pedro was getting a little annoyed by the interview though, Cotter needs to work on his skills, after every Met win the first question he asks whatever player they get coming of the field goes something like this..." how do you guys keep doing it, you never quit right"....
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soupcan Jun 01 2006 01:00 PM |
Where have you gone Matty Loughlin...
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metirish Jun 01 2006 01:03 PM |
Yeah I miss Matty, especially when in Milwaukee he would go down the slide just like Bernie, or get caught by the camera crew having a conversation with Bernie...didn't he get banned from one park a few years ago?, I'm thinking it was the Bob or Miller Park.
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soupcan Jun 01 2006 01:08 PM |
Oh, I don't miss him. Just wondering where he went.
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Edgy DC Jun 01 2006 01:10 PM |
To clarify, I don't think thsoe two interviews were necessarily bad, only that they crossed a line and may lead to something bad in the future.
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Yancy Street Gang Jun 01 2006 01:38 PM |
I liked the Guy Conti interview; it provided a glimpse into an aspect of the game I knew little about. (And it occurred to me that Guy would have had little tolerance for someone like Roger McDowell.) The Pedro interview was more notable for its timing than its content. Chris Cotter continues to bring nothing to the table, unless he's dressed as a sausage.
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Frayed Knot Jun 01 2006 01:43 PM |
The only problem w/the Conti interview was that they insisted on keeping the camera frozen on Conti while I'm fretting about missing pitches. Yo dudes, show the action! We can still listen while we're doing so.
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metirish Jun 01 2006 09:34 PM |
I have a kinda dumb question, when SNY or the WPIX don't have the Mets game like last Saturday or if it's a Sunday night ESPN game does Gary and the SNY crew have the night off or does Gary still call the game for future SNY airings?
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Frayed Knot Jun 01 2006 11:09 PM |
No, there's no "phantom" calling of the game.
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Elster88 Jun 02 2006 11:40 AM |
Who does PBP if Gary gets sick?
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Centerfield Jun 02 2006 11:45 AM |
I was wondering that too. I hope they have a better plan in place than Keith. I remember a few years back, there were a few innings where Keith was left alone with Seaver. They might as well have handed the booth to me and my buddies. It was downright awful.
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Yancy Street Gang Jun 02 2006 11:52 AM |
I think that would make sense, too.
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metirish Jun 02 2006 11:54 AM |
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Thanks FK, it would suck if the Mets had a no hitter and Gary wasn't on to call it, it would suck for him at least...but that will never happen...
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sharpie Jun 02 2006 12:04 PM |
The sound intermittently cuts off on my SNY broadcasts. Does it on all TVs in my house and on no other station. It only lasts about 5-10 seconds but it is annoying. This happening to you guys?
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Yancy Street Gang Jun 02 2006 12:08 PM |
I haven't noticed that at all.
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soupcan Jun 02 2006 12:18 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 02 2006 12:22 PM |
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YES! Maddening. Lately my Cablevision service has s-u-c-k-e-d. Pictures get pixelated, freeze, black out and the sound cuts out. Then I read in The Times and The Post this morning that Jams Dolan and his band 'JD and The Straight Shot' spent the evening performing for patrons at a 'midtown club' that had a cover charge of $15.00. Want to know the worst part? One of my best friends owns the club - Coda - where this fat billionaire bastard sang the blues last night! OE: James Dolan not Charles
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Willets Point Jun 02 2006 12:20 PM |
If only he'd buy the Mets, that would turn the team around.
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soupcan Jun 02 2006 12:23 PM |
Can you imagine? Yeesh.
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Frayed Knot Jun 02 2006 12:25 PM |
Actually it's James - son of Charles - Dolan doing the white-boy blues band thingie.
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Yancy Street Gang Jun 02 2006 12:30 PM |
I remember SportsChannel, in the late 80's, would blare the commercials at more than twice the volume of the ballgame. I'd have to lower the volume on the commercial breaks to preserve my eardrums, and then raise it again when the game resumed so that I could hear.
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G-Fafif Jun 02 2006 03:09 PM |
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It's been pointed out to me that Howie is under contract with MSG/FSN-NY to call Islanders games and that might conflict with his ability to slide into the SNY booth. Given his TV experience, I wondered why he didn't sub for Keith in Milwaukee instead of Eddie (and Eddie could have remained mostly faceless, sitting in with the even less exciting Tom McCarthy).
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Elster88 Jun 02 2006 11:37 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 03 2006 05:15 PM |
Moved to announcer rant thread.
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ScarletKnight41 Jun 03 2006 07:22 AM |
That's nothing compared to the White Sox crew. They are such freakin' homers it's unbelievable.
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G-Fafif Jun 04 2006 11:57 AM |
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Either whoever pointed it out to me was mistaken or the issue was resolved on the fly. Howie's in for apendicitis-riddled Gary until further notice.
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Elster88 Jun 04 2006 11:59 AM |
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Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
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GYC Jun 04 2006 12:30 PM |
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Lotto numbers?
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Elster88 Jun 04 2006 03:14 PM |
There are two commercials on SNY that make me as uncomfortable as I ever have been watching a commerical.
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ScarletKnight41 Jun 04 2006 03:18 PM |
I agree - those commericals creep me out.
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Elster88 Jun 04 2006 03:21 PM |
I agree Scarlet. I sometimes wonder if even a creepy commercial like those has an effect on smokers.
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Centerfield Jun 05 2006 11:58 AM |
When they brought in Howie, I thought to myself, "Holy crap, I think that's the first time I've ever been right about something."
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Elster88 Jun 05 2006 12:02 PM |
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That's an excellent point that I hadn't thought of.
This is where I disagree slightly with you. Some smokers (or non-smokers) may not understand fully what all that fat looks like in your artery, or what a person who had his voice box removed has to go through on a daily basis. I agree with everything you said that also goes with this point though, the potential benefits of having it right there in your face do not make up for all of the other negatives that you mentioned.
Thanks for being so candid CF. This is exactly what I was wondering.
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Johnny Dickshot Jun 05 2006 12:06 PM |
Opie and Anthony pointed out this morning, none too tastefully, the difference between smoking commercials and anti-AIDS commercials, whereby one focuses on the behavior leading to disease, turning them into pariahs and objects of public scorn, where the other wouldn't dare.
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Yancy Street Gang Jun 05 2006 01:27 PM |
I haven't noticed the commercials in question, because I rarely pay attention to commercials even when I don't have the ability to fast-forward, but I think anti-smoking messages have two audiences:
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metirish Jun 05 2006 01:29 PM |
I have no problem with the Ad's, you should see the anti-smoking commercials in Ireland, they are even more graphic than the ones SNY are running, they like to show blackened lungs and other effects of smoking.
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Elster88 Jun 05 2006 02:26 PM |
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Good point. But that's what health class is for. 'Course I don't think I was awake for an entire health class in my scholastic career.
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Elster88 Jun 13 2006 07:46 PM |
I kinda like it when all three guys in the booth.
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Centerfield Jun 14 2006 10:59 AM |
Speaking of fist pumps, SNY is running a commercial now (I think for Mets tickets) featuring highlights from the year. One of them is of Glavine, walking off the mound, doing a fist pump. (I think it's the Sunday night MFY game reacting to a double play). Anyway, the clip is hilarious. It shows Glavine getting excited, pumping his fist, then, as if suddenly remembering he is in public, abrubtly regaining his composure and returning to his stoic face.
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Elster88 Jun 14 2006 11:21 AM |
I'll admit it. I have no idea why all those guys have televsions for heads. That makes no sense to me.
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metirish Jun 14 2006 11:23 AM |
I'm more concerned about no antena on the TV's.
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MFS62 Jun 14 2006 11:25 AM |
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Maybe they have a cable up their butts. Later
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Elster88 Jun 14 2006 02:02 PM |
oops.
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Elster88 Jun 15 2006 04:54 PM |
I think it's evident that the Met broadcasters are willing to get on the Met players. Or at least Lastings Milledge.
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ScarletKnight41 Jun 15 2006 06:22 PM |
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While I was killing time during last night's rain delay, I sent SNY an e-mail at sportsnetnewyork@sny.tv -
I suggest that any of you who are tired of these ads write a quick e-mail of your own on the subject. If they hear from enough disgruntled viewers, perhaps they'll be less inclined to gross us out so frequently.
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Centerfield Jun 15 2006 06:27 PM |
Well said Scarlett.
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Yancy Street Gang Jun 15 2006 07:53 PM |
Articles in the Daily News both yesterday and today mentioned how well those commericals are working, how they're inspiring people to make the effort to quit.
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Elster88 Jun 15 2006 10:19 PM |
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In their defense there is a new one which is much easier to deal with. The same guy is simply walking by a pool saying how he used to love swimming, but he can't anymore because he would drown if water got in the hole in his throat. And that to me is a good commercial. It gets your attention with the guy using his amplifier to talk, and gets the message across that he can't even go swimming anymore. I haven't seen the one where he takes a shower since I saw this new one.
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Elster88 Jun 15 2006 10:21 PM |
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Yeah, that's what I meant, too. I have heard charges levelled against the Met broadcasters that they wouldn't dare speak ill of the Mets or any of the players. Howie, Keith and Ron spent an entire half-inning going over Milledge's baserunning blunder. In fact, I thought that they went a little overboard, I think they showed the play about ten times from different angles, and they didn't talk about anything else for the entire half inning following the play.
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Yancy Street Gang Jul 12 2006 05:06 PM |
Nice memory of Ron Darling posted today:
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ScarletKnight41 Jul 12 2006 06:21 PM |
It's a nice story.
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Iubitul Jul 12 2006 07:29 PM |
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Who are you kidding? It's all about the Ivy. Elitist. ;-)
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ScarletKnight41 Jul 12 2006 07:59 PM |
There's nothing wrong with having a good education :p
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Elster88 Jul 18 2006 07:44 PM |
You know what? Keith is a good color man.
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Vic Sage Jul 19 2006 12:56 PM |
Keith and Ron together are terrific.
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metirish Jul 19 2006 01:11 PM |
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Read Kenny Choi's blog and have a laugh.
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SteveJRogers Jul 19 2006 01:15 PM |
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HA! Then Jeter still has a long way to go, because Lawrence Peter Berra has what, 13 rings as a uniformed personel (10 as a player 3 as a coach) so the Lord of the Rings in this town is still Yogi Berra! And Bill Dickey/Frank Crosetti are also in that range
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Johnny Dickshot Jul 19 2006 01:33 PM |
Kenny Choi: Not a writer.
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Vic Sage Jul 19 2006 01:51 PM |
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wow. did he actually pull out that hoary old chestnut? What style! And while he's correct that there is no "I" in Derek Jeter, lets see what there IS: DEREK JETER jerk drek terd jeer eek reek retj deter eet drek der jerk That's alot of bad stuff in Derek Jeter, even without an "I".
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metirish Jul 19 2006 01:56 PM |
That's good stuff Vic.
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Yancy Street Gang Jul 19 2006 01:58 PM |
There's no WE in Derek Jeter, either. Unless he decides to develop a lisp.
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Willets Point Jul 19 2006 02:29 PM |
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Is that Dutch?
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Vic Sage Jul 20 2006 04:54 PM |
no its Phonetic Yiddish.
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ScarletKnight41 Jul 20 2006 09:54 PM |
I was out today and wasn't able to watch the game. Just now, it was so nice to be able to turn on SNY to see the rebroadcast of the 10th inning.
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ScarletKnight41 Jul 25 2006 12:51 PM |
The new issue of Columbia College Today has a nice feature article about Gary Cohen (CC '81).
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Johnny Dickshot Jul 25 2006 01:01 PM |
[url]http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct/jul_aug06/features2.php[/url]
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metirish Jul 25 2006 01:45 PM |
Good article on Cohen, thanks for posting....imagine Cohen and George Stephanopoulos doing a soccer game together....
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ScarletKnight41 Jul 25 2006 02:42 PM |
It seems wrong that the photo caption doesn't refer to Ron Darling as being a 1982 Yale grad.
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Centerfield Jul 25 2006 03:18 PM |
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Don't forget RED TERD...something for which you should consult your doctor right away...
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metirish Jul 27 2006 10:10 AM |
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From the Mets notes in the Daily News...
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Yancy Street Gang Jul 27 2006 10:24 AM |
That's pretty much what he told Keith and Gary in the broadcast booth. He has a four-month-old baby, and he's doing the Mr. Mom thing.
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MFS62 Jul 27 2006 10:47 AM |
Major kudos to SNY.
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metirish Jul 28 2006 11:55 AM |
I had the Cyclone game on last night and I was wondering who the hell is the pbp guy, I knew the voice, it was Chris Carlin from the WFAN, and the color guy was Mike Glavine, both were terrible.
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Elster88 Jul 28 2006 12:02 PM |
Considering how crappy some major league teams' broadcast teams are, I'm not surprised that SNY had to resort to them for the Cyclones game.
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TransMonk Jul 28 2006 10:54 PM |
Time for stat checker on Post Game Live after the 7/28 game.
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metirish Jul 28 2006 10:56 PM |
I mean WTF?....that is amazing that Keith did not tell Gary after he said the same thing twice...
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cooby Jul 28 2006 11:06 PM |
Maybe the one in Chicago didn't count either
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Gwreck Jul 31 2006 09:50 AM |
Not a good day for Keith yesterday.
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Edgy DC Jul 31 2006 09:55 AM |
Actually, in a shallow Seinfeld sense, that's a pretty funny comment.
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Yancy Street Gang Jul 31 2006 09:58 AM |
I agree. Keith is a bit of a loose cannon behind the mike, but I find it refreshing and entertaining.
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Johnny Dickshot Jul 31 2006 10:32 AM |
Hey did you guys see that Mets Weakly segment where the 10th grader recorded an updated version of "Meet the Mets"? I gotta say, that kid rocked ass: Respectful of the original, but updated better than than the lame 80s version.
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Gwreck Jul 31 2006 11:08 AM |
I forgot the other great moment from yesterday:
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Willets Point Jul 31 2006 11:38 AM |
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One or the other will want to have sex?
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Johnny Dickshot Jul 31 2006 11:43 AM |
They edited sound over the rhyme! It prolly was.
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Johnny Dickshot Jul 31 2006 11:44 AM |
I win!
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Iubitul Jul 31 2006 11:45 AM |
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They were showing the met fan wearing a veil, and her friend - presumably her husband - holding a broom... Keith made a comment about it being one heck of a honeymoon if she was still wearing her veil, and Gary made a comment about her already doling out the household chores, since he was holding a broom. Classic.
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metirish Jul 31 2006 11:49 AM |
Yes that was very funny,as a team Gary and Keith get better with each game,hell I'm even starting to warm up to Chris Cotter.
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ScarletKnight41 Jul 31 2006 11:51 AM |
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I did hear that on the show. Thanks for the link :)
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Elster88 Jul 31 2006 11:52 AM |
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I remember the girl with the veil, but I don't remember the No Comment-Good Job exchange. Must be getting senile.
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Johnny Dickshot Jul 31 2006 12:01 PM |
New York Yankees
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Edgy DC Jul 31 2006 12:04 PM |
That was some fine adaptin'. The kid even salvaged some lyrics from the eighties version.
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ScarletKnight41 Jul 31 2006 12:04 PM |
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Classic :)
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ScarletKnight41 Jul 31 2006 12:05 PM |
Edgy and SK similarity ranking - not that high today.
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Edgy DC Jul 31 2006 12:06 PM |
Not this time.
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Willets Point Jul 31 2006 12:26 PM |
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Wow. I cut a fart this weekend.
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Edgy DC Jul 31 2006 12:27 PM |
Was the tape rolling?
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Willets Point Jul 31 2006 12:29 PM |
Oh lord, my last post is on the top of the page. I have to more careful about letting things like that just slip out in such prominent places.
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Johnny Dickshot Jul 31 2006 12:34 PM |
I can still smell it.
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Yancy Street Gang Jul 31 2006 01:08 PM |
Ick. It smells like squid.
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Iubitul Jul 31 2006 01:35 PM |
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Great - now I have to clean my monitor again.... I hope the fruit punch won't stain...
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ScarletKnight41 Jul 31 2006 02:08 PM |
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You mean the Kool Aid? ;)
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Giant Squidlike Creature Aug 29 2006 12:16 PM |
Bump.
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MFS62 Aug 29 2006 12:25 PM |
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Bump? You can't fool us. You just like squid-smelling fart jokes. Later
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Frayed Knot Sep 02 2006 09:14 AM |
One advantage to having SNY is simply to give you an alternative to SportsCenter.
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MFS62 Sep 02 2006 09:48 AM |
Amen to dat.
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KC Sep 02 2006 10:02 AM |
FK: >>>And God forbid if T.O. sneezed or actually uttered something<<<
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MFS62 Sep 15 2006 10:27 AM |
The guy who covers sports media for the Daily News had a fun article about Gary Cohen today.
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SteveJRogers Sep 15 2006 10:41 AM |
I love a good "Then to Now" promo and certaintly the SNY McGraw-Orosco-Wagner one is fun, but a few things need to be said:
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Edgy DC Sep 15 2006 10:49 AM |
McGraw-Orosco-Wagner is an all-lefty continuum, so that may explain the absence of Benitez and Taylor (Lockwood, Allen, Sisk, etc.). The absence of Franco (and, less-so, Randy Myers) is far more curious.
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 15 2006 11:00 AM |
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MFS62 Sep 15 2006 11:06 AM |
Thanks,
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 15 2006 11:09 AM |
The problem wasn't on your end, 62. The Daily News web site was awfully slow for me, too.
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Rotblatt Sep 15 2006 11:38 AM |
Watching the national crew during the playoffs instead of Gary, Mex & Ron is going to fucking blow chunks.
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metirish Sep 15 2006 11:42 AM |
I suppose they could have Ron and Keith do studio work, I just hope FOX doesn't have Lou Piniella in the booth.
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Willets Point Sep 15 2006 11:44 AM |
Be on your guard for Curt Schilling, Color Commentator.
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SteveJRogers Sep 15 2006 11:47 AM |
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Funny example of parachuting during the 1999 NLDS. Chris Berman talking about Timo Perez as a "hot prospect" from the minors!
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Valadius Sep 15 2006 11:50 AM |
This is why they should have had a post-season clause in Gary's contract that would have him do the radio broadcasts when the big networks jumped in on TV.
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Willets Point Sep 15 2006 11:54 AM |
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I only remember parachuting in the 1986 World Series.
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Centerfield Sep 15 2006 12:03 PM |
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For real. Would anyone even miss Tom McCarthy?
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Rotblatt Sep 15 2006 12:04 PM |
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Yes! I would have loved that. Although Howie and what's-his-name are a'ight. I listened to them for the first time this last Saturday, and I think I could get used to 'em.
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Valadius Sep 15 2006 12:07 PM |
Honestly, I think one of the major reasons they selected Tom McCarthy to replace Gary is because he sounds very similar to Gary, but nowhere near as enthusiastic.
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 15 2006 12:11 PM |
It's funny, but I haven't heard more than an inning or two on the radio all season. I think part of the reason is that I'm watching so many games on TiVo-delay.
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Johnny Dickshot Sep 15 2006 01:04 PM |
McCarthy's knowledge is just fine (in fact it's good), he seems to get along with Howie well and he's earnest and honest and concise -- but IMO he just doesn't pull the moving parts of plays together as quickly as I'd like.
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soupcan Sep 15 2006 01:18 PM |
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How do you work that with kids? Isn't the wife just up your ass to get out from in front of the tube and 'do something' with the young 'uns? Oh wise master please enlighten me.
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 15 2006 01:49 PM |
Every family has its own dynamic, I guess. If I tried to watch the game as it aired on Friday evening I'd have a much tougher time.
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metirish Sep 15 2006 02:31 PM |
I just entered the "best of barbados" vacation givaway on SNY.com....fingers crossed...:)
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Centerfield Sep 15 2006 02:59 PM |
I just found out that the awful song they play in the Barbados commercial is actually a song released on the radio. And that the girl in the commercial is the real singer and not just a model hired to lip synch.
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ScarletKnight41 Sep 16 2006 08:00 PM |
The new anti-smoking ad is way more palatable than voice box guy. Hopefully his ads are gone for good!
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Valadius Sep 16 2006 08:01 PM |
Oh geez, the voice box dude is nasty!
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martin Sep 16 2006 09:35 PM |
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that kid in the commercial, the one in the cave, i dont like him, he has a little too much 'tude.
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ScarletKnight41 Sep 25 2006 09:59 PM |
This mornings Mets Fast Forward didn't show us Phil Humber's MLB debut inning from yesterday. I was disappointed about that.
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Frayed Knot Sep 25 2006 11:10 PM |
Discussions during both Sunday's game and tonight's mentioned Darling's wife being in/returning from Seattle for the Giants/SHawks game.
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metirish Sep 25 2006 11:15 PM |
Maybe Ron is married to Julie Donaldson,she was out in Seattle covering the game for SNY.
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Frayed Knot Sep 25 2006 11:21 PM |
Bob Raissman was speculating in the NYDN about whether, during the NYM clinching celebration, the SNY directors were going for the cheesy shot by keeping their cameras on the dripping wet Julie Donaldson a bit longer than they did with a soaking Chris Cotter.
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metirish Sep 25 2006 11:24 PM |
Well yeah of course they did....I like Cotter,infact I think SNY did a great job this season,congrats to them and please leave keith alone.
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Centerfield Sep 26 2006 10:14 AM |
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Ron Darling is always talking about his boys...I'm guessing these must be from his prior marriage to that model, Toni. And I guess that the boys live with Ron and the current Mrs. Darling, whoever that may be.
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HahnSolo Sep 26 2006 03:02 PM |
Ron Darling, hopeless romantic...
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Johnny Dickshot Sep 26 2006 03:22 PM |
xcellent find
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HahnSolo Sep 26 2006 04:55 PM |
Who, me or Ron?
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MFS62 Sep 28 2006 01:53 PM |
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spmets0928-sub,0,4551010.story?coll=ny-sports-headlines
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metirish Sep 28 2006 01:54 PM |
Very cool news.
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MFS62 Sep 28 2006 01:58 PM |
Has anyone read which teams of announcers we'll get on the nationally televised games?
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 28 2006 02:00 PM |
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 28 2006 02:02 PM |
I suspect that they won't announce the announcers until the matchups are established.
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MFS62 Sep 28 2006 02:06 PM |
Uh, Yancy.
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Gwreck Sep 28 2006 02:13 PM |
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Why not use the radio and mute the TV?
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ScarletKnight41 Sep 28 2006 02:17 PM |
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Yes, but Yancy made it convenient for us to know what the article was about without having to click the link. When people are pressed for time, it's not convenient to click a link if there's no indication what the article is about. BTW, Thanks Yancy.
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 28 2006 02:19 PM |
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I know. That's how I found it.
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Centerfield Sep 28 2006 02:51 PM |
WFAN Boss: Hey Tom, how you doing? Getting geared up for the post-season?
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 28 2006 02:56 PM |
I was thinking that they ought to shove Tom out of the booth in favor of Gary after the 8th inning. That way if there are any memorable game-ending plays, Gary and/or Howie would get to do the call.
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Centerfield Sep 28 2006 03:25 PM |
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Yup. (c)
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HahnSolo Sep 28 2006 04:00 PM |
I like Gary and all, but my postseason would not have been marred if I don't hear him calling a Mets game.
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soupcan Sep 29 2006 01:32 PM |
M & MD are making quite the fuss over this, saying that Cohen initiated this and that it is patently unfair to both McCarthy and Rose (although it is McCarthy whose air time will be pruned back) and is 'just wrong'.
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Edgy DC Sep 29 2006 01:38 PM |
How do they know that Cohen initiated this?
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metirish Sep 29 2006 01:39 PM |
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I've heard that one several times but never any reasons given,Gary has nothing but good things to say about Bob when he talks about him on air.
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soupcan Sep 29 2006 01:41 PM |
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They say 'they know'.
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Edgy DC Sep 29 2006 01:44 PM |
Oh, well, OK.
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MadDog Sep 29 2006 01:46 PM |
Ah, COME ON, Edge! We don't have to justify anything! I'm a world-class sports talk show host! I can say whatever I want, because Dr. Joseph Dellorusso will still pay us money to run his commercials! I just know these things because I know everything!
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soupcan Sep 29 2006 01:48 PM |
Well let's assume for the sake of argument that they do know.
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HahnSolo Sep 29 2006 02:38 PM |
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I've heard that Cohen took issue with Murph's smoking in the booth. Beyond that, I don't know how frosty their relationship was.
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metsmarathon Sep 29 2006 02:43 PM |
so... the most he's taking from anybody is an inning in the middle fo the game, and i'm supposed to believe this is some huge unfair controversy about who initiated it and why, while just about every mets fan who would listen to the game on the radio is happier as a result?
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metirish Sep 29 2006 02:46 PM |
I've not listened to an inning on the radio all season so I don't know why I care about this,fo all we know McCarthy and Cohen could be best friends.
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G-Fafif Sep 29 2006 02:46 PM |
M&MD are world-class A-holes.
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 29 2006 02:47 PM |
If Mike and the Mad Dog think this is an important issue, then I'm sure it is.
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seawolf17 Sep 29 2006 02:49 PM |
What Greg said. The problem is, they've been blowhards for so long, they're some sort of institution. I'll admit it, I listen semi-regularly, because the alternative (up the dial, Mr. Yankee Face-Sucker) is even worse and every couple of weeks they actually have an interesting discussion.
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Edgy DC Sep 29 2006 02:51 PM |
There are a lot of massive frauds in the media.
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ScarletKnight41 Sep 29 2006 02:55 PM |
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Those are your only alternatives? Is your radio broken? Don't you own a CD player?
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soupcan Sep 29 2006 03:03 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 29 2006 03:06 PM |
That's all well and good and they are hardly my favorite radio personalities. I keep FAN on in my office because I like the sportstalk in the background and ESPN radio is just as bad if not worse.
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metirish Sep 29 2006 03:03 PM |
Greg your blog bit on Trax dated Sptember 25 was a great read.
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SteveJRogers Sep 29 2006 03:23 PM |
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To be fair though, we'd be killing the Yankees and Michael Kay if he pulled this kind of stunt any time during the 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006 postseasons (though in all likelyhood Kay's working for ESPN radio killed any shot of him or the Yankees pulling something like that off) Its one thing to bring a retired legend like a By Samm in the 1980 WS into the booth or someone who doesn't work the games anymore like Marv Albert in the 2004 Stanley Cup, its another to bring a guy in who calls the games on TV all season just so they can be behind the radio mike for the postseason
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Edgy DC Sep 29 2006 03:26 PM |
I kill the Yankees for hiring Michael Kay to call any game any day of the week.
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metsmarathon Sep 29 2006 03:37 PM |
its off topic, but most of the time, francessa sounds like more of a yankee suckup than kay does.
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Frayed Knot Sep 29 2006 03:44 PM |
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Well, to them it is; pretty much making a case for Greg's (FaFiF) argument about their disconnect with the audience. MadDog in particular, who grew up as a true child of the sports/TV age, sees things through that prism almost exclusively and is endlessly facinated by the machinations of radio/TV braodcasts; - Who's doing what game? - Why is the #1 team assigned to Jets v Colts instead of ...? - He always knows which announcers have the lead during which innings of the broadcasts, etc. In short, this is big stuff to insiders like them (MD in particular) but not particularly to fans. The impact is almost certainly minimal: is anyone really going to tune in (or out) based on 2 innings of drop-in work by GC that wouldn't have anyway? I remember seeing Katie Couric on a talk show years ago probably not long after she took over the 'Today Show' and was becoming a nationally known name. She was talking about getting an interview with the storymaker-du-jour and how excited she was about beating Barbara Walters to the punch with it ... and you could tell how much it meant to her but, at the same time I'm realizing that virtually no one else cares in the slightest who "scored" the first interview with whoever it was in their 15 minutes of fame. But to her it was (perhaps understandably) everything. It's all in the perspective. Gary & Murph, in my mind, always suffered from a gap in inter-generational chemistry but I'm not sure if there was more to it than that even though it seems to be an accepted "fact" in some circles.
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G-Fafif Sep 29 2006 04:18 PM |
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To the extent that a single Mets fan cares what Michael Kay does with his Octobers (and it would be an extraordinarily limited extent), it would be fine if he did Yankee radiocasts. That would guarantee almost none of us would hear him because I doubt many of us would be listening. Better of course that there are no Yankee games in October, but one miracle at a time. By Saam's a nice reference, but it was the '76 NLCS the longtime Phillie announcer was brought back for. He had retired a year earlier with failing eyesight, just missing out on Philly's return to postseason. And Marv Albert? Do you mean '94? He was still the Rangers' radio voice of record then, but missed a ton of games due to basketball commitments. You couldn't argue he wasn't strongly identified with that team at that time. As for Cohen, he was the radio guy for 17 seasons, the most recent of which was last year. This isn't, say, Dave O'Brien or Ron Darling even being thrown in the radio booth out of the orange and blue for a playoff game. [And thanks metirish re: trax.]
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metirish Sep 29 2006 09:35 PM |
Gary tonight talking about the flight to DC for this series said, - " when Tom McCarthy and I got on the plane we thought we might get to see the game but it was in the ninth inning when we landed".....
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SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 10:04 AM |
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Raissman apparantly has alot of problems with Cohen doing some time in the booth
Gotta agree with Raissman (as well as Mike and Chris) Like I said, this isn't bringing in a legend who missed out on calling a postseason because of retirement. I admit I was wrong on the Albert 1994 run, but this really does smack of a guy getting "Buyers Remorse" about not being involved in the P-B-P of postseason games.
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Johnny Dickshot Oct 01 2006 10:06 AM |
BF friggin' D.
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SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 10:12 AM |
Okay, this forum doesn't give 2 rips about memorabillia except to put in spokes of bikes, and the behind the scenes intrigue of broadcasting.
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 01 2006 10:17 AM |
I don't give two rips about the behind the scenes intrigue of broadcasting.
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ScarletKnight41 Oct 01 2006 10:23 AM |
It would be different if Tom was being relieved of his duties in order for Gary to broadcast the games. But we're talking about two frickin' innings. It seems like Raissman has a real bug up his ass if he's so worked up over this.
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Edgy DC Oct 01 2006 01:07 PM |
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And I've got to way disagree. This is no. big. deal. This is what sports radio personalities do. They make controversy out of nothing, so they have something to rave and spit about and fill the lonely hours for their sponsors.
Mark Chernoff has a long history in radio on both sides of the mic and, as much as I dislike WFAN, probably doesn't deserve that crack.
The playoff spotlight belongs to Jose Reyes, David Wright, Carlos Beltran, Tom Glavine, Carlos Delgado, et al. It's those making a BFD out of this that are placing announcers above the game. And Steve's incorrect. Bob Murphy was ill and in bad voice during part of the 1986 post-season and Ralph Kiner filled in for him. There was no "stunt" then and there likely isn't now. The Mets didn't need the back end of their stellar rotation in 1986, so Sid Fernandez and Rick Aguilera went into the bullpen and Doug Sisk and Randy Niemann dealt with it. It's getting good men to do a good job. The FAN broadcasters have far less to deal with and I imagine they don't see a problem. In case nobody has noticed, broadcast teams tend to grow in the post-season.
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SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 02:21 PM |
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That I didn't recall, (me being 9 and not listening to the games on the radio and all) but since it was Kiner pinch-hitting for Murph, there is a difference.
That doesn't seem like a great analogy at all. Sisk and Niemann weren't being dropped from the roster so Sid and Augilera would go to the pen. They were all part of the same 24 (I think it was still 24 that year) man roster on 8/31/1986 so it was just moving deck chairs around I know Rose and McCarthy aren't going to NOT do the games, but this is like if Russo and Francesa liking their time in the booth back in June so much that they decided to do a game this October. You can't say this isn't about Gary Cohen's ego getting in the way, granted its small potatoes compared to whats going on on-the field, but its still a story
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ScarletKnight41 Oct 01 2006 02:22 PM |
You can think of it as ego or you can think of it as wanting to be a part of the postseason after working with this team for 17 years.
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SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 02:25 PM |
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But its not like he hasn't done postseason games and WS games, and he is slated to be a big part of SNY's pre and post game coverage of EVERY game, including being in the ballpark for all games (I think YES has kept Kay in the Stamford studios for postseason coverage)
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ScarletKnight41 Oct 01 2006 02:29 PM |
Which is why it should be a no-brainer that he participate in the postseason games in some way.
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metirish Oct 01 2006 02:34 PM |
this is so amazing to me,I bet Gary,Howie and Tom will end up addressing this in the next few days.
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ScarletKnight41 Oct 01 2006 03:27 PM |
The guys in the booth are praising Chris Cotter and giving him props on the relationship that he's built up with the players during the course of the season.
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Edgy DC Oct 01 2006 04:27 PM |
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The point is you've got your facts wrong.
So which is it? You're saying one thing then another. Are these guys giving up a roster spot or are they sharing the booth for two innings.
This isn't about Gary Cohen's ego getting in the way.
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SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 04:54 PM |
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Augliera and Sid weren't "hogging" up innings in the back of the Mets pen in the 1986 postseason. Manager's decision and progative to use his staff the way he saw fit. The best way to win was to use his #4 and 5 starters as long men in the bullpen rather than the 3rd and 4th guys in the pen Cohen can be seen as "hogging" mike time in the broadcast booth
If you want to believe it wasn't his call or not, its still him getting "face time" in the expense of those who have been doing it all year. Something that has no bearing on any outcome of a ball game, hense its all about ego stroking.
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 01 2006 04:54 PM |
And the reason we should care about this is...?
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SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 04:59 PM |
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There are actual people who do like behind the scenes intrigue and poltics of the media industry. I mean there is a book out about the history of NYC sports broadcasting, and I'm sure WFAN deserves a book written about it someday
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SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 04:59 PM |
And the reason the All Purpose SNY thread exists why?
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 01 2006 05:02 PM |
Because we're viewers. Not because we're broadcasting wonks.
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SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 05:03 PM |
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Okay fine, so why is there even a CPF or an UMDB then?
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SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 05:09 PM |
To some people its just as interesting of a facet of team history as the day and day out player movement and who has played the most games at what position.
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Edgy DC Oct 01 2006 05:13 PM |
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You're in the passive voice here. Try, "Manager's decision and progative to use his staff the way he saw fit." That works pretty well for me. Let it go.
I didn't say I believed either way. Such expense. Please. Nobody is "getting in the way" of anything.
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Edgy DC Oct 01 2006 05:15 PM |
"anals"?
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SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 05:15 PM |
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And I'm the one who fancies myself as a wannabe sports writer. Geez...
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SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 05:15 PM |
Double Post...
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SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 05:17 PM |
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Again, what did I want to be someday? Whats the word I'm looking for?
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Edgy DC Oct 01 2006 05:22 PM |
"Annals"?
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SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 05:26 PM |
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Bingo. As to the getting in the way, would you feel the same if Russo and Francessa decided, based on their job in June, did an inning of a postseason game? And don't give me the "Cohen did every game, from the TV side" point because it really is the same situation here.
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OlerudOwned Oct 01 2006 05:27 PM |
I don't think I'd want to be stuck in the anals of baseball history.
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ScarletKnight41 Oct 01 2006 05:30 PM |
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You really can't think that this is a persuasive analogy, can you?
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 01 2006 05:31 PM |
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Huh? Umm, to discuss whether or not Gary Cohen is an egomaniac?
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soupcan Oct 01 2006 11:04 PM |
Megalomaniac I think would be more apropos, no?
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Edgy DC Oct 01 2006 11:18 PM |
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Just how ridiculous are you trying to be?
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metsmarathon Oct 02 2006 12:04 AM |
aren't the fan and sny boradcast partners anyways?
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metsmarathon Oct 02 2006 12:04 AM |
aren't the fan and sny boradcast partners anyways?
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cleonjones11 Oct 02 2006 12:34 AM |
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This is asinine even by my standards
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OlerudOwned Oct 02 2006 12:44 AM |
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Hoo-boy
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Spacemans Bong Oct 02 2006 01:58 AM |
Gary Cohen is the voice of the Mets. Period. If Tom McCarthy doesn't like that, he's welcome to go elsewhere. To complain over this would be some idiot in LA complaining that Charley Steiner is getting short-shrifted by Vin Scully taking over the radio duties in the postseason.
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SteveJRogers Oct 02 2006 07:56 AM |
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He wouldn't, he's working all Met games for SNY's pre and post game coverage
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Centerfield Oct 02 2006 09:14 AM |
Steve is the Lastings Milledge of the CPF clubhouse.
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Elster88 Oct 02 2006 01:26 PM |
Didn't feel like starting a new thread. David Wright on the FAN at 4 today.
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G-Fafif Oct 02 2006 02:43 PM |
To an earlier point, Ralph, Rusty and Fran each took three innings in Game 2 of the '86 NLCS when Murph took ill.
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metirish Oct 02 2006 07:02 PM |
missing your Mets fix?....Postseason live on SNY...Wright,Darling,Cohen and Coleman on the show.
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Gwreck Oct 02 2006 08:07 PM |
From the Postseason Live:
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metirish Oct 02 2006 08:10 PM |
I swear an old GF of mine was the one over the shoulder of Matt Yallof all during the show.
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Edgy DC Oct 02 2006 08:27 PM |
Freaking Matt Yallof steals all the girls.
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metirish Oct 02 2006 08:29 PM |
One other thing,Marty Noble is one big man......
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MFS62 Oct 05 2006 10:06 AM |
Yesterday I was at a client site for a 3:45PM meeting. It had been scheduled far in advance, and I couldn't get it changed. Needless to say, I had no idea what had happened in the game. About 6PM there was a break in the meeting, so I hopped on one of their PCs to check the IGT and/or Yahoo Sports to get a recap. Their friggin' Internet connection was down!!
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cooby Oct 05 2006 10:07 AM |
Holy smokes, that sounds like one of my bad dreams
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martin Oct 05 2006 05:53 PM |
i thought SNY had a terrific first season. my favorite moment was mid-season, when one of of those goofy inflated mascots was waddling around, a mr met, the camera is on him as we come back from commercial.
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ScarletKnight41 Oct 05 2006 05:59 PM |
My favorite moment - Gary and Ron explaining to Keith the mathematical formula by which the Magic Number is derived.
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metsmarathon Oct 05 2006 06:55 PM |
i like any time keith needs white out to fix his scorecard.
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MFS62 Oct 05 2006 06:56 PM |
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I think it was Red Barber (after an official scorer changed his ruling) who I first heard say "That's why they put erasers on pencils". Later
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metirish Oct 05 2006 07:36 PM |
Tim Teuful is in the studio tonight.
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Elster88 Oct 05 2006 08:05 PM |
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Was.
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 05 2006 10:10 PM |
Was?
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ScarletKnight41 Oct 05 2006 11:07 PM |
I miss Gary, Keith and Ron already.
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Frayed Knot Oct 05 2006 11:27 PM |
Hey fat, bald guy w/the cell phone hanging behind the desk window for the last five minutes ... no one's impressed.
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metsmarathon Oct 05 2006 11:34 PM |
i hate when the local news talks to local sports fans prior to playoff games.
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Edgy DC Oct 05 2006 11:34 PM |
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I'd like to hear an answer to this one.
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SteveJRogers Oct 06 2006 08:02 AM |
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Not to speak for Elster, but I think the point is that TV announcers are generally not considered "The Voice..." of the team, and that title is reserved for the radio broadcasters. Hence the apporpriate current "Voice of the Mets" is Howie Rose "Put THAT in your books!" There is more of a connection with radio broadcasters than there are with TV guys. Of course there are exceptions (Ralphie Boy) but generally its the Word Picture Artists who fans (of all sports, not just baseball) have a strong affiliation for as oppossed to the TV guys
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G-Fafif Oct 06 2006 12:14 PM |
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As a rule, I'd agree, but in practice, no. Gary Cohen's 17 seasons on the radio plus his new PBP role on approximately 150 televised games puts him front and center. In that sense, Gary has an opportunity to maintain his status far more than any of his recent TV predecessors have. He's on cable, he's on over the air. I love Howie Rose but I don't think he transcends the broadcasts in nearly the way Cohen does. Just because he has the radio job doesn't mean he is The Voice. My sense is if you ask a hundred Mets fans to "quick, name the Mets announcer," the answer will more often than not come back as Gary Cohen. That could change over time as Howie logs more radio hours and if his calls become famous (if he gets a postseason walkoff homer to his credit, for example or gets to call the last out of the World Series...an out we'd want to put in the books, of course) and if Gary working TV becomes wallpaper. But I doubt Cohen cedes that territory. It's the announcer who makes The Voice, not the job.
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Centerfield Oct 06 2006 12:54 PM |
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That fat bald guy obliterated the old record for waving at the camera while talking on the cell phone. No joking, he must have been there for thirty minutes. They cut to highlights, then Grady Little's press conference, then Willie, then Glavine, and when they cut back to the studio, he was still there. His idiocy was eclipsed only by the morons who chanted "Yankees Suck" behind Gary and Ron.
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metirish Oct 06 2006 01:02 PM |
So what did you guys think about Tim Teuful in the studio last night?,I swear several times he made some weird faces into the camera and his eyes several times lit up like someone was shining a bright light on him, probably nerves.
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soupcan Oct 06 2006 01:03 PM |
You know who I saw at the game on Wednesday? Remember the old lady who had seats in the front row behind the plate who wore a straw hat and had those Mets christmas tree ornament earrings? She would do that rolling thing with her arms to try and distract the pitcher and she was in every single TV shot ofrom the centerfield camera?
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Willets Point Oct 06 2006 01:05 PM |
I always wondered what happened to her.
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metirish Oct 06 2006 01:07 PM |
Has anyone seen the usual sign guy,the one that goes to every home game during the season.....
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soupcan Oct 06 2006 01:09 PM |
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Watched him after I got home last night. He creeped me out a bit.
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soupcan Oct 06 2006 01:10 PM |
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We have a sign guy?
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cooby Oct 06 2006 01:20 PM |
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Is it stilol the same seat?
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soupcan Oct 06 2006 01:22 PM |
I think it is the same seat. Just ten rows of 'new' seats in front of her.
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metirish Oct 06 2006 01:22 PM |
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Yeah he's down the first baseline at every game .
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cooby Oct 06 2006 01:23 PM |
She must really be old now. But then again, she was probably 40 then and we all just thought she was old.
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soupcan Oct 06 2006 01:26 PM |
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That explains it. I can't see down the line from my seats. But I don't recall ever seeing a sign guy on TV. That chickadee with the painted logo face (awesome job on that by the way) had some signs the past 2 games though.
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metirish Oct 06 2006 01:28 PM |
You mean Cheryl Baren of Jericho, Long Island?
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Rotblatt Oct 06 2006 01:30 PM |
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I saw him in Game 1--towards the end of the game, he was ducking behind in our row. I couldn't quite make out the sign, but it may have read, "Mets Win!"
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soupcan Oct 06 2006 01:32 PM |
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Um, yeah I guess so. (Edgy - we have an assistant for you for 'Wifey Watch')
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ScarletKnight41 Oct 08 2006 09:42 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 13 2006 04:44 PM |
Why was Todd Zeile in the booth with Gary and Ron after the game last night? I like Zeile, and he is from SoCal, but why didn't they have Keith if they were going to have a third man?
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metsmarathon Oct 13 2006 04:10 PM |
i'm gonna treat this as a generic "discuss MLB television content" thread for a sec...
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Edgy DC Oct 13 2006 04:13 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 13 2006 04:38 PM |
I think he has no idea that there is a connotation other than Victoria's husband.
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metsmarathon Oct 13 2006 04:14 PM |
true. i just found it an odd thing to hear. it'd be as if he were to call duaner "dirty"
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 13 2006 04:18 PM |
Or as a brand of tobacco. The old standard prank phone call is "Do you have Prince Albert in a can? Then let him out!"
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seawolf17 Oct 13 2006 04:19 PM |
I don't know why I fall for it every single time, but there I was, looking it up. Thanks.
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 13 2006 04:19 PM |
Okay, I'm back.You learn something every day.
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Johnny Dickshot Oct 13 2006 04:19 PM |
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I didn't either till mm's filthy mind made me look it up. Gross! I'm against penile mutilation.
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metirish Oct 13 2006 04:20 PM |
I imagine it wouldn't sit well with a cup while playing baseball.
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metsmarathon Oct 13 2006 04:24 PM |
see, i usually assume i'm way far behind the times, so that if i pick up on something that has a dirty meaning, i assume there are nuns in cambodian missions that heard about it ten years ago.
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metirish Oct 13 2006 04:30 PM |
Find out here, scroll down to "history & culture"....warning...there is a picture
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 13 2006 04:33 PM |
And another thread goes off the rails!
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soupcan Oct 13 2006 04:36 PM |
Holy fucking shit!
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metsmarathon Oct 13 2006 04:47 PM |
gah! last time i ever mention anything.
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cooby Oct 13 2006 05:04 PM |
Most PA wearers report no negative effect on sexual function, and many say it enhances sexual pleasure for both partners
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metirish Oct 17 2006 10:46 AM |
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One reason why Keith is not with SNY doing the pre/post game show.
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MFS62 Oct 17 2006 10:49 AM |
The power of Gary Cohen;
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Valadius Oct 17 2006 10:51 AM |
Is there some tax aimed at people who only live in Florida during the winter or something?
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metsmarathon Oct 17 2006 10:53 AM |
on this, michael kay and i are in perfect agreement:
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soupcan Oct 17 2006 10:59 AM |
Assuming Mex files his return as a Florida resident because there's probably little or no personal income tax or other incentives for him to do so.
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HahnSolo Oct 17 2006 11:19 AM |
Interesting.
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 17 2006 11:21 AM |
Tell me about it. I used to be a traveling consultant and almost got burned by a rule that says if you're on a project for a year (or 11 months, or something like that) your travel expenses are taxable. That adds up to a lot of money for meals, hotels, and transportation.
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MFS62 Oct 18 2006 01:08 PM |
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The Tim McCarver Drinking Game.
Y'know, I used to like Tim. But not recently. I'm glad he didn't join the SNY team. Later
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Iubitul Oct 18 2006 01:26 PM |
The more I think about it, the more I think it's Deion Sanders' fault. Tim obviously hasn't been the same since Prime Time went after him in the locker room...
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TransMonk Oct 30 2006 08:06 PM |
I finally get to experience Mets Classics now that the season is over. For some reason my satellite provider blacked out these games during the season. Tonight I'm taking in September 21, 2001...probably my favorite regular season game of all time.
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metirish Oct 30 2006 08:16 PM |
I just tuned in,thanks Monk..watching this game never gets old.
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metirish Oct 30 2006 09:14 PM |
Liza doing NY ,NY still gives me goose bumps...amazin.
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TransMonk Oct 30 2006 09:58 PM |
Watching that game live, I remember thinking that Karsay was so hot about not getting those calls against Alfonzo that he might make a mistake against Mike...and make a mistake he did.
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metirish Oct 30 2006 10:34 PM |
Great hearing Fran,Ralph and Howie too....during the game Fran mentioned that there was a thought of playing those games in Atlanta....looking back I can't imagine how I would feel now if that did happen...
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Centerfield Nov 03 2006 01:06 PM |
It seems inevitable that someday SNY and MSG, if they can bury their differences, would have to merge. It makes no sense that SNY has baseball, but crap in the winter, and MSG has basketball/hockey, but crap in the summer.
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