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BLC: Steve Miller Band -vs- Guns N' Roses

soupcan Apr 03 2006 10:03 PM

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Edgy DC Apr 03 2006 10:29 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 03 2006 11:17 PM

"Abracadabra" was released in June 1982. Shortly thereafter, strange things began happening --- Israel went apeshit in Lebanon, General Efrain Rios Montt siezed the presidency in Guatemala, Taxi left ABC for an inferior run on NBC. Domino effect.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 03 2006 11:05 PM

Abracadabra? Wild Mountain Honey? The Stake?

metirish Apr 03 2006 11:07 PM

I fear for Steve Miller , I guees we will vote on this in a few weeks, Elster likes to keep us waiting.

cooby Apr 03 2006 11:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 04 2006 07:34 AM

I once played a Steve Miller Band 8-Track for three months straight in my car. I fear for Guns N Roses Edit: Changed CD to 8-Track. I was a little punchy last night

Edgy DC Apr 03 2006 11:24 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 10 2006 12:11 PM

How about "Livin' in the USA" or "Winter Time"? If you've got to pick a lame-o eighties single, at least go for surpise and pick "Heart Like a Wheel" or "I Want to Make the World Turn Around." Or better yet, pick an Alan Parsons Project song. There wasn't any difference between the two by then anyway. Seriously, a fine list, saving that "Abracadabra" is just an awful song.

cooby Apr 03 2006 11:27 PM

Abracadabra is a great song. What a good idea

Edgy DC Apr 03 2006 11:37 PM

Well, there's room for everybody under the tent.

Willets Point Apr 04 2006 07:15 AM

I loved Abracadabra at the time. Mind you I was 8 and got the giggles at anything risque.

sharpie Apr 04 2006 09:00 AM

Ditto on "Living in the USA." I was an early fan but turned on him like a snake once he started in his corporate-rock mode.

RealityChuck Apr 04 2006 09:04 AM

Steve Miller loses all except for "Space Cowboy." They were a great band until "The Joker," after which they sucked so bad as to cause explosive decompression.

Edgy DC Apr 04 2006 09:10 AM

Wouldn't it appear more legit to posterity if we wait until after the opposition takes the field to declare a winner?

soupcan Apr 04 2006 09:11 AM

Blah blah blah. I like the songs I put up. End of story. And I've got just one thing to say to all you 'Abracadabra' haters - I feel the magic in your caress I feel magic when I touch your dress Silk and satin, leather and lace Black panties with an angel’s face

Willets Point Apr 04 2006 09:32 AM

That was the part that made me giggle. Especially "panties".

Edgy DC Apr 04 2006 10:03 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 10 2006 12:13 PM

I never understood whether the woman had an angel's face or the panties did. "Abracadabra" song facts, including a scary all-caps posting from a stalker. Check out some video cheapness, including a cardboard cutout of Miller with a horrid new wave bowl cut.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 04 2006 11:16 AM

Fun facts about Steve Miller: * Started off as a blues guitar prodigy --His box set includes a cut of him playing along with Les Paul at age 5! * His band was originally known as the Steve Miller Blues Band, but they went psychadelic in 60s San Francisco, before becoming a corporate rock guy who'd occasionally do disco (Abracadabra). * Born in Milwaukee, grew up in Texas. Son of a doctor and jazz/blues singer. * Boz Scaggs was an original SMB member. Other band members changed frequently -- 24 guys in all, with Steve Miller the only "original" member left. Norton Buffalo (harmonica) and Garry Mallaber (drums) were frequent collaborators. * Shares a birthday (Oct. 5) with Ms. Dickshot * Never liked having his picture taken: Before the silly flying horses took over everything, his album covers pictured him ... wearing a mask... ..in a negative... ...obscuring his eye with a feather... ...poorly lit with hair in his face... ...with redacted eyes in a video...

Edgy DC Apr 04 2006 11:26 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 04 2006 12:59 PM

I think Steve Miller and Alan Parsons both sat in briefly as engineers on Beatles recording sessions --- and both, perhaps not coincidentally, flamed out by making big-hit slickly-crafted pop records that were utterly disposable. Also during his trip to England to record with Glynnis Johns, Miller and Paul McCartney recorded "My Dark Hour," with Paul appearing under the alias Paul Ramon. Miller later appears on several tracks on Paul's critically over-rated Flaming Pie.* They come off as hastily arranged blues songs. Nice to hear Miller get back to the blues, but these were also pretty disposeable. *That is, over-rated by critics, not over-rated to a critical extent.

Edgy DC Apr 04 2006 12:57 PM

Everybody hum the "Abracadabra" guitar solo: "squeak-pop-dickle... ahn-ahn-ahn-ahn..."

Johnny Dickshot Apr 04 2006 01:29 PM

'Abracadabra' was a hit whilst I was pursuing high-school romance with Danna Rubenstein and in no time had written the parody that went Danna, Danna, Banana Danna Banana

Edgy DC Apr 04 2006 01:36 PM

I was collecting during my brief time as a paper deliverer. I got to the apartment of my classmate Dina Marquez. As I raised my hand to knock, I noticed the door was open a crack and Dina was singing "Abracadabra," her shape occassionally flying past the crack as she flitted and danced around going "Abra- Abracadabra, WHOOH! I wanna reach out and grab ya!" I stepped back and tried to wipe the smile off of my face. I had enough trouble keeping my cool with chicks as it was, and I left collecting from the Marquezes for another week. Heck, I probably left it for my successor.

soupcan Apr 04 2006 01:55 PM

Both great memories. You should thank Steve Miller for them by voting for 'Abracadabra'. Here's mine: I was a camp counselor at an Episcopal camp that summer and was in charge of a tent of 8 year-olds. I taught them that song and we'd walk around camp singing it. The camp director thought it was funny until he heard the 'black panties' verse. I was quickly summoned to his office.

Willets Point Apr 04 2006 01:58 PM

Was Dina attractive and you were too shy to approach her while she did a sexy dance or was she a beast and you were afraid that she'd beat the living crap out of you as preemptive measure to prevent you from blabbing about it all over school?

cooby Apr 04 2006 01:59 PM

I think I was just starting to date Mr. cooby when that song came out, maybe that is why I remember it fondly. I am absolutely voting for it, if ever we get to vote.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 04 2006 02:19 PM

Willets Point wrote: Was Dina attractive and you were too shy to approach her while she did a sexy dance or was she a beast and you were afraid that she'd beat the living crap out of you as preemptive measure to prevent you from blabbing about it all over school? Danna was no Lisa Liotta, but she was OK. She was slim and tall, and had kind of a big nose. And by "kind of" I mean "not kind of." As I recall it, the 'Abracadabra' era was before we dated and being a high-school kid, a bunch of guy friends and I wrote the Danna Banana lyrics so as to make fun of her/get her attention, and it worked. Danna was not of our crowd (fiercely antijock/frisbee-playing music snobs) so dating her (or rather her dating me) was like a severe slumming violation in her crowd (Jewish soccer girlfriends & their teacher brown-nosing rich-kid soccer-playing boyfriends). We ended up going to prom anyway but were fading out long before then. We never "officially" broke up but I knew it would end since she had no ambitions to ever leave Long Island (she commuted to SUNY Stony Brook) and I couldn't wait to never come back. But I probably knew that more than her. Fall semester freshman year I'm talking with her on the dorm pay phone, when she demands to know what I've been up to with the coeds, and just being honest, I tell her. In a week I get a letter describing her hooking up at a party. I do believe she married that guy, and, last I heard, still lives on Long Island. Her Mom was once on 'Wheel of Fortune' and won a bunch of prizes but gakked in the bonus round when the subject was 'people' and RSTLN and E produced: — — ST—N RE— S— — I got it. Can you?

Willets Point Apr 04 2006 02:24 PM

Dickshot: I was following up on Edgy's paper route, but good story anyhow. Cooby: If I recall correctly you got married in 1979 and "Abracadabra" came out in 1982. Unless you started dating Mr. Cooby three years after you got married which I guess is possible.

cooby Apr 04 2006 02:25 PM

Then I am obviously thinking of someone else...

Johnny Dickshot Apr 04 2006 02:25 PM

D'oh. I just thought you spelled the name wrong.

Edgy DC Apr 04 2006 02:57 PM

Dickshot doesn't read my posts anymore. ]Was Dina attractive and you were too shy to approach her while she did a sexy dance or was she a beast and you were afraid that she'd beat the living crap out of you as preemptive measure to prevent you from blabbing about it all over school? Dina was either (a) adorable in general, and moreso in her free-spirity abracadancing way, so I couldn't possibly approach her, for alll my bashfulness, or (b) shallow and beneath contempt for enjoying such a crappy song, so I couldn't possibly approach her, for all my sophistication. It was probably (c) both --- (b) in my conscious mind and (a) in my unconscious mind. The laundry list of reasons not to approach young women was long and complicated to young Edgy. Getting past all those items on that list and courageously crossing the Caucasian/Latina line was just beyond my pathetic ability. I didn't have the post-racial moxie of young soupcan, although, honestly, that crazy chick should have cut him to ribbons for teaching filthy music to good young Episcopalians.

soupcan Apr 04 2006 03:02 PM

="Edgy DC"]The laundry list of reasons not to approach young women was long and complicated to young Edgy. Getting past all those items on that list and courageously crossing the Caucasian/Latina line was just beyond my pathetic ability. I didn't have the post-racial moxie of young soupcan, although, honestly, that crazy chick should have cut him to ribbons for teaching filthy music to good young Episcopalians. It was the same camp but I don't remember if it was the same summer. Don't sell yourself short - that Caucasian/Latina line was a tough one to cross. It is the reason that my 6th grade love for Christina Cabeneros went sadly unrequited. For the record - the kids loved the damn song.

Vic Sage Apr 04 2006 05:54 PM

These are the steve miller songs you went with? Space Cowboy (Brave New World - 69) The Joker (The Joker - 73) Fly Like an Eagle (Fly Like an Eagle - 76) Take the Money and Run (Fly Like an Eagle -76) Rock 'N Me (Fly Like an Eagle -76) Jet Airliner (Book of Dreams - 77) Swingtown (Book of Dreams - 77) Jungle Love (Book of Dreams - 77) True Fine Love (Book of Dreams - 77) Abracadabra (Abracadabra - 82) This is a pretty mediocre list of his work, Soupy. 7 of the 10 are decent songs from Miller's 2 mid-70s mainstream pop albums, FLY LIKE AN EAGLE and BOOK OF DREAMS. 1 other song (The Joker) is the precurser to this era of middling pop hits, and 1 song (abracadabra) is a post-script, from his period of decline (1981-present) You've got only 1 song (Space Cowboy) from Miller's prime.. the bluesy r&b era (68-71), which was BY FAR his most fertile, interesting period. Here are 10 pre-"Eagle" songs to consider: Sailor (68) - Living In the USA - Gangster of Love Brave New World (69) - Seasons - Space Cowboy - My Dark Hour Your Saving Grace (69) - Don't Let nobody Turn You Around - Motherless Children - Your Saving Grace Number 5 (71) - Never Kill Another Man - Going to the Country

Edgy DC Apr 04 2006 07:49 PM

]the subject was 'people' and RSTLN and E produced: — — ST—N RE— S— — I got it. Can you? Are we talking a single person or a people?

Johnny Dickshot Apr 04 2006 08:58 PM

I'm not telling you any more than Pat Sajack would have. And they had 30 seconds to get it, not 5 hours.

Willets Point Apr 04 2006 09:07 PM

The BOSTON RED SOX are people too.

cooby Apr 04 2006 09:12 PM

I'm about to pull a Reality Chuck here and vote 10-0 Steve Miller Band.

Willets Point Apr 04 2006 09:18 PM

The Pompatus of Love.

soupcan Apr 04 2006 09:18 PM

Vic Sage wrote: These are the steve miller songs you went with? Space Cowboy (Brave New World - 69) The Joker (The Joker - 73) Fly Like an Eagle (Fly Like an Eagle - 76) Take the Money and Run (Fly Like an Eagle -76) Rock 'N Me (Fly Like an Eagle -76) Jet Airliner (Book of Dreams - 77) Swingtown (Book of Dreams - 77) Jungle Love (Book of Dreams - 77) True Fine Love (Book of Dreams - 77) Abracadabra (Abracadabra - 82) This is a pretty mediocre list of his work, Soupy. Those who can, do. I don't see you throwing up 10 songs my brutha. If you're so offended by my personal preference of Steve Miller Band songs then I shall make you a deal. Take over. Choose your fave SMB tunes, and sponsor the band from here on out (you're quite obviously a fan). Elster hasn't yet responded so the SMB list is technically in flux. Put your big ole jet airliner where your mouth is sir.

cooby Apr 04 2006 09:19 PM

Why don't you two pit 10 different Steve Miller songs against each other?

Elster88 Apr 04 2006 09:21 PM

[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OQF/104-1977186-4009511?v=glance&n=5174]1) Sweet Child O' Mine [/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OSE/ref=pd_bxgy_text_b/104-1977186-4009511?%5Fencoding=UTF8]2) November Rain [/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OQF/104-1977186-4009511?v=glance&n=5174]3) Paradise City [/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OQF/104-1977186-4009511?v=glance&n=5174]4) Welcome to the Jungle [/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OSG/ref=pd_bxgy_text_b/104-1977186-4009511?%5Fencoding=UTF8]5) You Could Be Mine[/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OSE/ref=pd_bxgy_text_b/104-1977186-4009511?%5Fencoding=UTF8]6) Don't Cry (original lyrics)[/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OQF/104-1977186-4009511?v=glance&n=5174]7) Mr. Brownstone [/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OSG/ref=pd_bxgy_text_b/104-1977186-4009511?%5Fencoding=UTF8]8) Estranged[/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OSG/ref=pd_bxgy_text_b/104-1977186-4009511?%5Fencoding=UTF8]9) Civil War[/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OQY/qid=1141221967/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-1977186-4009511?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]10) Patience[/url]

cooby Apr 04 2006 09:21 PM

There we go!

soupcan Apr 05 2006 09:27 AM Re: BLC: Steve Miller Band -vs- Guns N' Roses

The Joker -v- Sweet Child O' Mine -STEVE MILLER BAND Fly Like an Eagle -v- November Rain -STEVE MILLER BAND Jet Airliner -v- Paradise City -STEVE MILLER BAND Swingtown -v- Welcome to the Jungle -GUNS N' ROSES Abracadabra -v- You Could Be Mine -STEVE MILLER BAND Jungle Love -v- Don't Cry (original lyrics)-GUNS N' ROSES Take the Money and Run -v- Mr. Brownstone -STEVE MILLER BAND Rock 'N Me -v- Estranged -STEVE MILLER BAND True Fine Love -v- Civil War -STEVE MILLER BAND Space Cowboy -v- Patience-STEVE MILLER BAND STEVE MILLER BAND - 8 / GUNS N' ROSES - 2

Johnny Dickshot Apr 05 2006 09:40 AM

Willets Point wrote: The BOSTON RED SOX are people too. You win... A NEW CAR!!!

Edgy DC Apr 05 2006 09:50 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 05 2006 09:57 AM

Here's a wallop of reality for anybody who thinks a sense of continuity is an important factor in judging bandliness, as these two bands have had 43 members between the two of them, not counting "temoporary" substitutes and touring members. Fact: for the American Music Awards in 1989, Steven Adler called in sick (draw your own conclusions) and Don Henley sat in with Guns 'n Roses for their performance of "Patience." I actually don't remember any drumming on this track at all, but maybe they added something for the "I been walkin the streets at night!" coda. The Steve Miller Band vs. =red]Guns 'n Roses "The Joker " vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine " "Fly Like an Eagle " vs. "November Rain " "Jet Airliner " vs. "Paradise City " "Swingtown " vs. "Welcome to the Jungle " "Abracadabra " vs. "You Could Be Mine " "Jungle Love " vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics) " "Take the Money and Run " vs. "Mr. Brownstone " "Rock 'N Me " vs. "Estranged " "True Fine Love " vs. "Civil War " "Space Cowboy" vs. "Patience"

metirish Apr 05 2006 09:55 AM

The Joker " vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine " Guns "Fly Like an Eagle " vs. "November Rain " - Guns "Jet Airliner " vs. "Paradise City " - Guns "Swingtown " vs. "Welcome to the Jungle " - Guns "Abracadabra " vs. "You Could Be Mine " - Guns "Jungle Love " vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics) " - Guns "Take the Money and Run " vs. "Mr. Brownstone " - Guns "Rock 'N Me " vs. "Estranged " - Guns "True Fine Love " vs. "Civil War " - Guns "Space Cowboy" vs. "Patience" - Guns Sorry but I detest SMB Guns win 10 zip. _________________

Edgy DC Apr 05 2006 09:58 AM

"Abracadabra " vs. "You Could Be Mine" Stinky matchup.

sharpie Apr 05 2006 10:06 AM

"The Joker " vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine " tie "Fly Like an Eagle " vs. "November Rain " GNR (post office anthem - bah) "Jet Airliner " vs. "Paradise City " Miller "Swingtown " vs. "Welcome to the Jungle " GNR "Abracadabra " vs. "You Could Be Mine " GNR "Jungle Love " vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics) " GNR "Take the Money and Run " vs. "Mr. Brownstone " GNR "Rock 'N Me " vs. "Estranged " tie "True Fine Love " vs. "Civil War " tie "Space Cowboy" vs. "Patience" Miller Guns N Roses 6.5 Steve Miller Band 3.5 Vic's Steve Miller list would've been an easy winner for me. I'm no GNR fan.

cooby Apr 05 2006 10:12 AM

The Joker -v- Sweet Child O' Mine - Guns N Roses Fly Like an Eagle -v- November Rain - Steve Miller Band Jet Airliner -v- Paradise City - Steve Miller Band Swingtown -v- Welcome to the Jungle - Steve Miller Band Abracadabra -v- You Could Be Mine -Steve Miller Band Jungle Love -v- Don't Cry (original lyrics)- Steve Miller Band (2 votes if I could) Take the Money and Run -v- Mr. Brownstone -Steve Miller Band Rock 'N Me -v- Estranged -Steve Miller Band True Fine Love -v- Civil War -Tie Space Cowboy -v- Patience-Steve Miller Band SMB 8.5 GnR 1.5

Edgy DC Apr 05 2006 10:18 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 05 2006 11:00 AM

"The Joker " vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine " G 'n R. The big bad second single for the Gunners trumps Homer Simpson's goin'-out song. "Fly Like an Eagle " vs. "November Rain " Tie. Too much too-muchness in both these songs. Both sound dated to a degree proportional to their datedness. "Jet Airliner " vs. "Paradise City " SMB. Knockout in the second round. Anybody catch that documentary about the guy who wrote "Jet Airliner"? (I haven't.) "Swingtown " vs. "Welcome to the Jungle " G 'n R. Good drum fills are most of what recommend "Swingtown" -- the sort of semi-boogie that AOR bands put out to stay on the air in the disco era. It's neither fish nor flesh, though. "Abracadabra " vs. "You Could Be Mine " Ugh vs. ugh. G 'n R, but they shouldn't be proud about it. This is the type of song other bands should have been putting out to imitate Guns 'n Roses. "Jungle Love " vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics) " SMB. OK, occasionally that boogie crossover stuff worked. "Take the Money and Run " vs. "Mr. Brownstone " SMB. "Rock 'N Me " vs. "Estranged " SMB. "True Fine Love " vs. "Civil War " G 'n R "Space Cowboy" vs. "Patience" G 'n R by a hair. I have a 5-5 tie, which surprises me. The Gunners just tried too fast to make everything "Stairway"-quality epic, while throwing out a Spaghetti Incident as a joke. Shortly after their breakthrough, there was no in-between of good music that occassionally rose to great. Axl demanded of G 'n R, like Eddie demanded of the Cruisers, that everything be great, and everything was huge, epic, and mediocre instead, then he disappeared for a long time and the band went their ways --- again like Eddie and the Cruisers. Oops, I actually gave G 'n R a 5.5-4.5 win, as I couldn't bring myself to pull the switch on "Fly Like an Eagle."

Johnny Dickshot Apr 05 2006 10:36 AM

"The Joker " vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine " --Guns "Fly Like an Eagle " vs. "November Rain " --There was a time when FLAE looked like it be one of those songs that would endure somewhere around the Top 50+ of all-time Rock songs, up there with 'Hotel California' and other overblown 70s album-hits. But it hasn't aged well, and the Classic Rock List for 2005 lists it all the way down at Fourhundredseventyseven. Wow! Not that I believe it's an all-time top 50 just that it had that kind of credibility when it first came out. Steve Miller wins. "Jet Airliner " vs. "Paradise City " --Love the guitar chugging along. It's an airplane song but could have been a train song. SMB. "Swingtown " vs. "Welcome to the Jungle " --I like how Swingtown assembles itself: Starting with just a snare drum, and in succeeding measures adding bass, guitar, keys, synth, etc... and then oh-Ohhhhs ... sorta like Lamda Lamda Lamda at the Greek Games talent competition. It also breaks down in reverse order. The LP version is a million times better than the single/Greatest Hits version of this song for this reason. All that said, Guns kills them dead in this matchup. "Abracadabra " vs. "You Could Be Mine " --Guns here. "Jungle Love " vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics) " --Cool whistling wins it for SMB "Take the Money and Run " vs. "Mr. Brownstone " --TTMAR is the highest-ranker on the Classic list (131), and I can't abide by that: Nice guitar work & drums on this tune, but idiotic lyrics and rhymes: "Texas" "Facts is" and "Taxes"? Ugh. Upset for Mr. Brownstone. "Rock 'N Me " vs. "Estranged " --Have you ever noticed how Rock n' Me rips off "All Right Now" by Free? SMB "True Fine Love " vs. "Civil War " --TFL is a shitty choice, if I may say so myself. Guns "Space Cowboy" vs. "Patience" --Excellent choice here and a solid win for SMB Holy crap, a 5-5 tie.

Willets Point Apr 05 2006 10:49 AM

]Anybody catch that documentary about the guy who wrote "Jet Airliner"? (I haven't.) If you're refering to Genghis Blues it's one of my all time favorite movies. Next time you rent something, get it.

HahnSolo Apr 05 2006 10:50 AM

The Joker -v- Sweet Child O' Mine - GNR Fly Like an Eagle -v- November Rain - GNR Jet Airliner -v- Paradise City - GNR Swingtown -v- Welcome to the Jungle - GNR Abracadabra -v- You Could Be Mine -SMB Jungle Love -v- Don't Cry (original lyrics)- SMB Take the Money and Run -v- Mr. Brownstone -GNR Rock 'N Me -v- Estranged -SMB True Fine Love -v- Civil War -GNR Space Cowboy -v- Patience- SMB GNR wins 6-4

Edgy DC Apr 05 2006 10:57 AM

Who set the itinerary on "Rockin' Me"? Steve and Co. go from ...Phoenix, Arizona, all the way to Tacoma Philadelphia, Atlanta, LA Northern California where the girls are warm So I could hear my sweet baby say... So, from the southwest to the northwest to the northeast to the southeast, back to the southwest before heading home to San Francisco. Couldn't he have saved a lot of money booking those in some sort of geographical order? And what in the name of the Beach Boys makes northern Cali girls particularly "warm," besides Steve being from there? And why go where the girls are warm to hear your sweet baby say something? It's unclear, Steve ... are you stuck on your sweet baby or are you a playa? And are you playin' in your baby's back yard? What about the three bridges rule? A rock star like you should be able to pull that off. And why does he blow off the midwest, where, I'm guessing, he was bigger than cheese fries at the time?

sharpie Apr 05 2006 11:00 AM

Beach Boys were from Southern California. So, "the Northern girls with the way they kiss they keep their boyfriends warm at night" translates into Northern California "where the girls are warm." I used to live in Northern California. Yes, the girls were warm.

Edgy DC Apr 05 2006 11:00 AM

]f you're refering to Genghis Blues it's one of my all time favorite movies. Next time you rent something, get it. Hitting the list now.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 05 2006 11:02 AM

And why, does when he mean "Rocking" is it spelled "Rock 'N"? "Keep on a' rock and me baby" makes no sense.

cooby Apr 05 2006 11:39 AM

Wednesday morning benefit: Big Ol' Jet A-erliner is the song running through my head today.

abogdan Apr 05 2006 11:41 AM

"The Joker " vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine " - GnR "Fly Like an Eagle " vs. "November Rain " - GnR "Jet Airliner " vs. "Paradise City " - GnR "Swingtown " vs. "Welcome to the Jungle " - GnR "Abracadabra " vs. "You Could Be Mine " - GnR "Jungle Love " vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics) " - GnR "Take the Money and Run " vs. "Mr. Brownstone " - GnR "Rock 'N Me " vs. "Estranged " - GnR "True Fine Love " vs. "Civil War " - GnR "Space Cowboy" vs. "Patience" - GnR Get out the brooms. 10-0 GnR.

Willets Point Apr 05 2006 11:58 AM

"The Joker " vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine " Steve Miller Band "Fly Like an Eagle " vs. "November Rain " Steve Miller Band "Jet Airliner " vs. "Paradise City " Steve Miller Band "Swingtown " vs. "Welcome to the Jungle " Guns N' Rose "Abracadabra " vs. "You Could Be Mine " Steve Miller Band "Jungle Love " vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics) " Steve Miller Band "Take the Money and Run " vs. "Mr. Brownstone " Steve Miller Band "Rock 'N Me " vs. "Estranged " Steve Miller Band "True Fine Love " vs. "Civil War " Guns N' Rose "Space Cowboy" vs. "Patience" Tie Steve Miller Band 7.5:2.5 Guns & Roses

Johnny Dickshot Apr 05 2006 12:11 PM

True Fine Love: 1-6-2 thru 9 votes.

Elster88 Apr 05 2006 12:12 PM

Against the weakest GNR entry.

Edgy DC Apr 05 2006 12:18 PM

"Jet Airliner" is 6-3 against "Paradise City," though. This one should've been Miller's 9-0 redeemer.

Elster88 Apr 05 2006 12:21 PM

Part of Paradise City's appeal is the way it's used as the encore in concert. And just because it doesn't stand out from many other rock songs doesn't mean it's a bad song. It's also fun to play on the guitar. And better than any Steve Miller Band song ever written, with the possible exception of Fly Like an Eagle.

sharpie Apr 05 2006 12:27 PM

The not-included "Living in the USA" should've been his redeemer. In retrospect "Jet Airliner" prolly should've gotten my vote but my sense of betrayal by old Steve was too great by then for me to overcome. In one of my first concerts I saw the Steve Miller Band in San Francisco (warm girls). Ringo Starr came out for the encore and waved to the crowd. Second billed was Poco. Opening act was Roxy Music with Brian Eno still in the band.

Edgy DC Apr 05 2006 12:34 PM

What was the betrayal? Burying Roxy beneath Poco?

sharpie Apr 05 2006 12:44 PM

Betrayal was described earlier and echoed by Vic --- I used to listen to the first couple of albums and No. 5 incessently. Then he jumped the shark around the time of "The Joker" (though that song doesn't bother me) and he spent some time at no. 1 on my hate parade. Eno took center stage in that show with Brian Ferry off on stage left. The guitar players had some choreographed moves.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 05 2006 01:24 PM

]Anybody catch that documentary about the guy who wrote "Jet Airliner"? (I haven't.) Didn't know there was one. Or have we talked about this here before? Reading up, it was written by a blind singer from Cape Cod (New England Town) named Paul Pena, who recorded his version in 1973 but it didn't come out on an album till a few years ago. I just listened to a snippet on iTunes -- real soulful and blues-y. Another reason why Steve Miller's "Greatest Hits" sucks -- besides cutting down on the Swingtown Intro, it substitues "funky kicks" for "funky shit" goin down in the city.

Edgy DC Apr 05 2006 01:49 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 10 2006 02:15 PM

Fellow San Franciscan (or so I thought, maybe he wandered out from New England) Pena's career was saved by Miller cutting his song. Nonetheless, he continued to become a serious down-and-outer, beset by health problems, and he'd likely not have survived, except that the "BOJA" composer's royalty checks just. Kept. Coming. If I recall, they finally came up with a successful therapy for his health problems sometime in the nineties. The documentary, if I recall correctly, is about Pena pursuing his latter-day interest --- Tuvian throat singing, and his efforts to get to the western-most reaches of the former Soviet Union in order to compete in the World Tuvian Throat Singing Smackdown Championship, or something similar.

Lundy Apr 05 2006 02:26 PM

"The Joker " vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine " Steve Miller "Fly Like an Eagle " vs. "November Rain " Steve Miller "Jet Airliner " vs. "Paradise City "Steve Miller "Swingtown " vs. "Welcome to the Jungle " Steve Miller "Abracadabra " vs. "You Could Be Mine " Steve Miller "Jungle Love " vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics) " Steve Miller "Take the Money and Run " vs. "Mr. Brownstone " Steve Miller "Rock 'N Me " vs. "Estranged " Steve Miller "True Fine Love " vs. "Civil War " GNR "Space Cowboy" vs. "Patience" Steve Miller 9-1 Steve Miller

Edgy DC Apr 05 2006 02:43 PM

Not for nothing, but this contest has been awesome. Many times a bunch of middling ballots can add up two a pretty even matchup, with a few extreme votes in one camp throwing a victory to that side. Here, were getting extreme votes from both sides, and they're cancelling each other out. Guns 'N Roses has been the antitheses of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, vulneralbe in every contest but never losing. Can they keep it up? Voter SMB G'nR soupcan 8 2 metirish 0 10 sharpie 3.5 6.5 cooby 8.5 1.5 Edgy DC 4.5 5.5 Johnny Dickshot 5 5 HahnSolo 4 6 abogdan 0 10 Willets 7.5 2.5 Lundy 9 1 Total 50 50 Awesome!

Rockin' Doc Apr 05 2006 07:40 PM

When does voting end on this contest. I have to run some errands, but hopefully I can vote later tonight if it's not to late.

cooby Apr 05 2006 08:04 PM

Drive fast Rockin' Doc!

Elster88 Apr 05 2006 08:28 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: When does voting end on this contest. I have to run some errands, but hopefully I can vote later tonight if it's not to late. 9:21 PM on Thursday, 4/6

Rockin' Doc Apr 06 2006 07:12 AM

"The Joker " vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine " - GNR "Fly Like an Eagle " vs. "November Rain " - SMB "Jet Airliner " vs. "Paradise City " - Tie "Swingtown " vs. "Welcome to the Jungle " - GNR "Abracadabra " vs. "You Could Be Mine " - GNR "Jungle Love " vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics) " - SMB "Take the Money and Run " vs. "Mr. Brownstone " - SMB "Rock 'N Me " vs. "Estranged " - SMB "True Fine Love " vs. "Civil War " - GNR "Space Cowboy" vs. "Patience" - SMB Close match, but Steve Miller Band prevails. SMB 5.5 GNR 4.5

Edgy DC Apr 06 2006 07:57 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 06 2006 09:21 AM

Which gives us our difference. Flying horses up 55.5-54.5 over the five-skull crosses.

sharpie Apr 06 2006 08:42 AM

Elster has yet to vote.

Elster88 Apr 06 2006 09:20 AM

I just can't do it. I can't vote for any of those Steve Miller songs. I like Fly Like an Eagle, but it's up against November Rain. Jet Airliner is good too, as is The Joker. But Sweet Child is my favorite song of all time. Maybe I'll throw Jet Airline a bone, though I like Paradise City more too. If any bands besides these crooners that have challenged so far went up against GNR, my vote wouldn't be so one-sided.

soupcan Apr 06 2006 09:28 AM

I voted 8-2 for SMB. You vote 8-2 for GNR, we cancel each other out and you don't feel so bad.

Rockin' Doc Apr 06 2006 09:30 AM

GNR's victory looks pretty secure since Soupcan has already cast his vote. I have always liked Sweet Child O' Mine and Welcome To the Jungle, but I never really considered myself a GNR fan. However, Elster's list shows that GNR really had a pretty high peak. I originally did not expect them to do as well as they have in the BLC, but they really had a lot of good songs. Though, I gave a slight edge to Steve Miller Band (which many fond memories are associated with some of his music since I grew up listening to it as an adolescent) I thank Elster for reintroduceing me to a band that I never fully appreciated during their run.

Elster88 Apr 06 2006 04:00 PM

"The Joker " vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine " - GNR "Fly Like an Eagle " vs. "November Rain " - GNR "Jet Airliner " vs. "Paradise City " - Tie "Swingtown " vs. "Welcome to the Jungle " - GNR "Abracadabra " vs. "You Could Be Mine " - GNR "Jungle Love " vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics) " - GNR "Take the Money and Run " vs. "Mr. Brownstone " - GNR "Rock 'N Me " vs. "Estranged " - GNR "True Fine Love " vs. "Civil War " - GNR "Space Cowboy" vs. "Patience" - GNR Guns N' Roses 9.5, Steve Miller Band 0.5

Edgy DC Apr 06 2006 04:06 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 06 2006 09:42 PM

And that's pretty much our difference as Guns pulls into a 64-56 lead. Not as awesome.

Elster88 Apr 06 2006 09:16 PM

Edgy DC wrote: And that's pretty much our difference as Guns pulls into a 64-56 lead. Not as awsome. Remove the sponsors' votes (11.5 - 8.5 in favor of GNR) and the Gunners still win. Time's up. I should hurry up and challenge up before one of these Bands That Sing Like Women get lucky and beat GNR.

Edgy DC Apr 06 2006 09:44 PM

Sometimes Axl sings like a kitty cat Sing "Yooooou could be mine!" As "Meeooooow, meow, meow, meow!"

Elster88 Apr 06 2006 09:46 PM

I don't think many kitty cats hold the meow as long as Axl held the Youuuuuuu in that song. I've always thought of him as a sleek leopard with tattoos instead of spots.

Edgy DC Apr 06 2006 09:48 PM

Sure, except it's, you know, THE GAYEST THING I EVER HEARD. Sorry, game back on.

Elster88 Apr 06 2006 10:01 PM

The leopard thing sounds gay? It was supposed to. Or the song sounds gay?

Edgy DC Apr 06 2006 10:09 PM

]The leopard thing sounds gay? It was supposed to. Whew, OK, then you're totally off the hook.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 06 2006 10:19 PM

That was a funny exchange you two.

Elster88 Apr 07 2006 12:05 PM

Put it in the books.

sharpie Apr 07 2006 12:11 PM

Yeah, 64-56 is your final.

Vic Sage Apr 10 2006 12:08 PM

just as well. While I have absolutely no interest in GnR and i liked many of the SMB songs listed (more or less), there was no way i was going to vote for the "new" Steve Miller Band... a zombie that had eaten the soul of its precursor. Could we do a vote of new SMB vs classic SMB, pitting my list against Soupy's? I'd be curious to see what people think of their relative virtues, given that "new" SMB was substantially more successful (commercially) than the original band.

Edgy DC Apr 10 2006 12:10 PM

Soup's already offered to turn over sponsorship to you, esentially pre-emptively forfeiting that matchup. Take him up.