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Willets Point Apr 06 2006 10:45 AM Edited 85 time(s), most recently on Jul 07 2006 02:03 PM

LAST UPDATED: 2:00 PM on July 7, 2006 Rotation (Current sponsor marked in bold) 1. Sharpie (The Doors, Talking Heads, The Clash, Elvis Costello & The Attractions, Cream) 2. Johnny Dickshot (Queen, R.E.M., The Pretenders, Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band, The Cars) 3. Edgy DC (The Beatles, Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, Bob Marley and the Wailers, Los Lobos, The English Beat) 4. Willets Point (The Rolling Stones, Prince & the Revolution, They Might Be Giants, Radiohead) 5. Vic Sage (Steve Miller Band) 6.Rockin' Doc (Creedence Clearwater Revival, Van Halen, Lynyrd Skynyrd) 7. RealityChuck (The Kinks) 8. Abogdan (Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins) 9. Elster 88(Guns N' Roses - hope I spelt that right) 10. Hahn Solo (U2, The Eagles) 11. Soupcan (Led Zeppelin, The Police) 12. Scarlett Knight (Ben Folds Five, Dave Matthews Band) 13.Cooby (Jimi Hendrix Experience, Electric Light Orchestra, Guess Who, Santana) 14. Seawolf17 (AC/DC, Aerosmith, Def Leppard, Red Hot Chili Peppers) 15. Olerud Owned (Black Sabbath) 16. Lenny Harris (The Who, Pink Floyd, Nirvana, The Ramones) 17. Lundy (Steely Dan, The Beach Boys, Rush, The Allman Brothers) 18.Rotblatt (Velvet Underground, Pogues, Parliament, Pixies) 19.Metirish (The Cure, Thin Lizzy, Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds) Standings 1) The Beatles (sponsored by Edgy DC) 4-0 2) Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band (sponsored by Johnny Dickshot) 3-0 3) The Rolling Stones (sponsored by Willets Point) 3-2 (Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band) 4) The Doors (sponsored by sharpie) 4-3 (The Rolling Stones) 5) The Who 3-0 (sponsored by Lenny Harris) 6) Led Zeppelin (sponsored by Soupcan) 4-1 (The Who) 7) The Jimi Hendrix Experience (sponsored by cooby) 3-2 ( Led Zeppelin) 8) Talking Heads (sponsored by sharpie) 4-1 (The Jimi Hendrix Experience) 9) Creedence Clearwater Revival (sponsored by Rockin' Doc) 4-1 (The Doors) 10) The Velvet Underground (sponsored by Rotblatt) 4-2 ( Creedence Clearwater Revival) 11) Queen (sponsored by Johnny Dickshot) 3-3 (The Velvet Underground) 12) U2 (sponsored by HahnSolo) 4-1 (Led Zeppelin) 13) The Clash (sponsored by Sharpie) 3-1 (Creedence Clearwater Revival) 14) The Ramones (sponsored by Lenny Harris) 1-0 15) Guns N' Roses (sponsored by Elster88) 4-2 (The Ramones) 16) Nirvana (Sponsored by Lenny Harris) 2-1 (Queen) 17) Prince & the Revolution (Sponsored by Willets Point) 3-2 (Nirvana) 18) Pink Floyd (sponsored by Lenny Harris) 3-1 (Queen) 19) AC/DC (sponsored by Seawolf17) 3-1 (Pink Floyd) 20) Elvis Costello & the Attractions (sponsored by Sharpie) 2-0 Challenged by Buddy Holly & the Crickets 21) Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers (sponsored by Edgy DC) 4-8 (Elvis Costello & the Attractions) 22) The Pogues (sponsored by Rotblatt) 2-2 (Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers) 23) The Kinks (sponsored by RealityChuck) 2-2 (The Pogues) 24)Bob Marley and the Wailers (sponsored by Edgy DC) 1-2 (Velvet Underground) 25) Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds (sponsored by metirish) 1-1 (Velvet Underground) 26) The Police (sponsored by soupcan) 1-2 (Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds) 27) R.E.M. (sponsored by Johnny Dickshot) 5-2 (Elvis Costello and the Attractions) 28) Aerosmith (sponsored by Seawolf17) 2-6 (R.E.M.) 29) Van Halen (sponsored by Rockin' Doc) 3-1 (Aerosmith) 30) The Cure (sponsored by metirish) 4-2 (Van Halen) 31) The Pretenders (sponsored by Johnny Dickshot) 1-3 (The Cure) 32) Steely Dan (sponsored by lundy) 2-4 (The Pretenders) 33) Cream (sponsored by sharpie) 1-0 34) Electric Light Orchestra (sponsored by Cooby) 1-3 (Cream) 35) The Beach Boys (sponsored by Lundy) 0-2 (Talking Heads) 36) They Might Be Giants (sponsored by Willets Point) 1-5 (The Cure) 37) Squeeze (sponsored by HahnSolo) 1-0 38) Thin Lizzy (sponsored by metirish) 0-2 (Squeeze) 39) Pearl Jam (sponsored by abogdan) 0-2 (Nirvana) 40) The Eagles (sponsored by Hahn Solo) 1-2 (The Cure) 41) Ben Folds Five (sponsored by Scarlett Knight) 1-1 (The Eagles) 42) The Steve Miller Band (sponsored by Vic Sage) 0-3 (Ben Folds Five) 43) The Guess Who (sponsored by Cooby) 0-1 (The Velvet Underground) 44) Def Leppard (sponsored by Seawolf17) 0-2 (Electric Light Orchestra) 45) Black Sabbath (Sponsored by Olerud Owned) 0-1 (Van Halen) 46) Rush (sponsored by Lundy) 0-1 (Creedence Clearwater Revival) 47) Parliament (sponsored by Rotblatt) 0-2 (The Clash) 48) Radiohead (sponsored by Willets Point) 0-2 (AC/DC) 49) The Dave Matthews Band (sponsored by Scarlet Knight) 1-0 50) Los Lobos (sponsored by Edgy DC) 0-2 (Dave Matthews Band) 51) Lynyrd Skynyrd (sponsored by Rockin' Doc) 0-1 (Prince and the Revolution) 52) Smashing Pumpkins (sponsored by abogdan) 0-1 (Aerosmith) 53) Santana (sponsored by cooby) 1-1 (Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band) 54) Red Hot Chili Peppers (sponsored by Seawolf17) 0-1 (The Kinks) 55) The Allman Brothers Band (sponsored by Lundy) 0-1 (Santana) 56) The Pixies (sponsored by Rotblatt) 0-1 (U2) 57) The Cars (sponsored by Johnny Dickshot) 0-1 58) The English Beat (sponsored by Edgy DC) 0-1 (They Might Be Giants) In action with first challenge 59) Buddy Holly and the Crickets (sponsored by Willets Point) 0-0 Challenging Elvis Costello and the Attractions

Elster88 Apr 06 2006 10:45 AM

Guns N' Roses

sharpie Apr 10 2006 01:59 PM

Willets, why are you offa the rotation list?

Lenny Harris Apr 11 2006 05:38 PM

I'll Take Nirvana

Elster88 Apr 17 2006 05:03 PM

What's the difference between standings and seeds?

Willets Point Apr 17 2006 05:21 PM

Seeds is part of a band name "Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds" (Damn line break, part II).

Edgy DC Apr 17 2006 05:26 PM

That's a new look at his band name. Maybe we should be thinking of Nick's band as a bunch of guys who got difficult matchups in the opening round of tournaments. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds bring a lot of nationalities into our challenge.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 18 2006 01:52 PM

Willets Point wrote: Johnny Dickshot may introduce a new band and challenge up with the Pretenders when he's ready (sharpie rather unsportingly challenged REM just before Dickshot's turn). Not only that, but smart money has REM going down so their scheduled attack on Aerosmith will have to wait. But that's OK. I'll have new action up, say, tomorrow.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 19 2006 09:27 AM

Pretenders will take on Steely Dan The Doors shall be challenged by Bruce & the E Streeters

Edgy DC Apr 19 2006 09:31 AM

"Hold tight baby 'cuz don't you know Daddy's coming." "Father, I want to kill you." "Daddy's comin'." "Kill, you." "Comin'." "Kill."

sharpie May 02 2006 09:37 AM

Chuck or Doc: GO.

sharpie May 04 2006 01:09 PM

Van Halen and Pretenders does close at 10am on Monday (Johnny re-arranged his songs after Doc added his 10th). You haven't credited Petty with beating Miller and you have the Doors being challenged by the Doors (which may be true in real life but not here).

Elster88 May 08 2006 04:54 PM

Since GNR is blocked I will pass. In the next go round, if the Clash (or another band that beats GNR) is in the place immediately in front of them, then I will do a re-challenge. The other two bands that I was considering sponsoring have already been taken.

Willets Point May 10 2006 11:02 AM

Nirvana v. Pearl Jam - Closes 10:21 pm Wednesday HahnSolo is up to bat.

Edgy DC May 10 2006 11:24 AM

]Since GNR is blocked I will pass. So much bandage out there waiting to be had. Fleetwood Mac, Pantera, the Motels, the Ramones, the Go-Gos, the 13th-Floor Elevators, the Yardbirds, Mott the Hoople, the Busboys, the Flying Burrito Brothers, Motley Crue, Pure Prarie League, Fishbone. Echo and the Stinking Bunnymen! And you pass? Great questions are before us!

cooby May 10 2006 11:26 AM

Elster is a dedicated GNR guy

Elster88 May 10 2006 11:50 AM

]Echo and the Stinking Bunnymen What the...?

Edgy DC May 10 2006 11:54 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 10 2006 02:24 PM

Would you like to sponsor Echo and the Bunnymen?

HahnSolo May 10 2006 02:15 PM

My next challenge will be up shortly.

sharpie May 10 2006 02:54 PM

Hahn has it in for Irish.

Johnny Dickshot May 10 2006 05:50 PM

Retarded question: Aren't all bands that have yet to win a challenge essentially on the same rung of the ladder, or rather, gathered on the floor trying to take the first step? ELO isn't any higher than the Beach Boys, are they? Is suggesting a ladder with only as many rungs have been claimed a stupid, unnecessary thing or not? IOW, putting a line between Steely Dan and the Cure indicating thast all those guys below this line share the same place? Or does the timing of the entry always mean something?

Willets Point May 10 2006 06:02 PM

I don't think the numbers 1-48 or whatever really stand for anything as far as a ranking. The ladder to my understanding just means that the bands ahead of you have beaten you or a band that beat you and the bands behind you lost to you or lost to a band you beat. Of course many of the bands in the ladder have competed against one another at all at this point. It's one of those things that I think will work itself out as the challenge goes on. It's a pretty level ladder at this point. Also, this is now a 2-page thread and I'm going to have to pick up the ladder and rotation and move into a new thread or people are not going to be able to find it.

Edgy DC May 11 2006 10:25 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 18 2006 09:56 AM

Point of Order... when filling out a lineup card, can we include more than one version of the same song? "You Gots the Most (Original Version)" "You Gots the Most (Live in Antwerp)" "You Gots the Most (1986 DJ Paul Bunyan Mastermix)" Should we let the voters decide if the sponsor is going to the well too much, or have a rule?

sharpie May 11 2006 10:34 AM

I don't like the version designation and never use them myself (let people choose if they want the long or the short "Light My Fire" - I say vote on the "Light My FIre" you like best). I suppose, however, that if someone really wanted to use the same song with multiple versions they can do so - at their peril.

Willets Point May 11 2006 10:54 AM

I'm with sharpie on live versions, they're just the same song to me and I don't care which version people are voting on. You might have a point if a band records two distinctly different versions of the same song. One band I'm considering sponsoring one day is Public Enemy who had an early hit with "Bring the Noise" and a few years later released another version with metal band Anthrax called "Bring tha Noise". Very different renditions of the same song, so much so that they had to change the spelling of "the."

sharpie May 15 2006 11:30 AM

Soupcan: You're up. You can challenge up with both the Police and Led Zep and add a new band.

Edgy DC May 15 2006 11:34 AM

I always included "Breakdown (Live)" because it has this spoken bridge that the original lacks, with Petty spewing words really fast, rationalizing his "it's alright..." indifference. It's really fun because he goes a long time without inhaling.

Willets Point May 15 2006 08:00 PM

Updated the ladder tonight. Soupcan's next. Probably not wise to challenge Dickshot's and Lundy's bands since the proud papas won't likely be around to answer the challenge for a while.

soupcan May 16 2006 09:25 AM

Okay I'm gonna work up a challenge today/tonight with one of my existing bands. They deserve higher rankings and dadgum it they're gonna get them!

Edgy DC May 16 2006 10:06 AM

Next band up will make it a nifty fifty. Let's see Led Zeppelin try to climb that stairway to the Beatles. Or at least Talking Heads.

sharpie May 16 2006 10:16 AM

Hey, Talking Heads have had a bunch of matches lately. Try Jimi Hendrix Experience I say. Or the Rolling Stones.

HahnSolo May 16 2006 11:06 AM

]Okay I'm gonna work up a challenge today/tonight with one of my existing bands. They deserve higher rankings and dadgum it they're gonna get them! I agree. Both Led Zep and The Police are lower than where I'd expect them to be.

Edgy DC May 16 2006 03:48 PM

ZEP - LIN! ZEP - LIN! ZEP - LIN!

soupcan May 16 2006 11:06 PM

HahnSolo wrote: I agree. Both Led Zep and The Police are lower than where I'd expect them to be. I found out the hard way that there is no love for The Police on this board.

sharpie May 16 2006 11:08 PM

It was a pretty close match as I recall and there were some lesser-known Police songs in there.

cooby May 16 2006 11:11 PM

I like them, what am I? Chopped liver?

soupcan May 16 2006 11:14 PM

="sharpie"]It was a pretty close match as I recall and there were some lesser-known Police songs in there. They lost to friggin' Guns N' Roses for crissakes! Guns N' Roses! ="cooby"]I like them, what am I? Chopped liver? Lebanon Baloney.

Willets Point May 16 2006 11:44 PM

So you're not even going to try to challenge up with the Police? That's no fair! And no fun! Surely the Police can beat one or more of these bands: Nirvana Prince & the Revolution The Who Pink Floyd AC/DC Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers The Kinks Bob Marley and the Wailers Aerosmith Elvis Costello & the Attractions R.E.M. Van Halen The Pretenders Steely Dan The Cure I count nine of these bands that I personally think the Police are better than.

cooby May 17 2006 06:15 AM

soupcan wrote: Lebanon Baloney. heh, shoulda seen that one coming

soupcan May 17 2006 08:59 AM

Willets Point wrote: So you're not even going to try to challenge up with the Police? That's no fair! And no fun! Surely the Police can beat one or more of these bands: Nirvana Prince & the Revolution The Who Pink Floyd AC/DC Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers The Kinks Bob Marley and the Wailers Aerosmith Elvis Costello & the Attractions R.E.M. Van Halen The Pretenders Steely Dan The Cure I count nine of these bands that I personally think the Police are better than. I agree witchya 100%. Next time my spot comes around I intend to challenge up with The Police.

seawolf17 May 17 2006 09:06 AM

Willets Point wrote: So you're not even going to try to challenge up with the Police? That's no fair! And no fun! Surely the Police can beat one or more of these bands: Nirvana Prince & the Revolution The Who Pink Floyd AC/DC Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers The Kinks Bob Marley and the Wailers Aerosmith Elvis Costello & the Attractions R.E.M. Van Halen The Pretenders Steely Dan The Cure I count nine of these bands that I personally think the Police are better than. I'd say they slot in nicely right below REM.

Edgy DC May 17 2006 09:11 AM

Soup, that next time comes slowly. Play the Police card while you can. I'd sponsor them if'n I could. PS: I was out of town during the Police/GnR matchup.

soupcan May 17 2006 09:43 AM

I can do more than one challenge at a time?

Willets Point May 17 2006 09:45 AM

Yes.

soupcan May 17 2006 09:46 AM

Great - Police challenge to be posted later today....

sharpie May 17 2006 09:53 AM

You can also introduce a new band at the same time.

soupcan May 17 2006 09:57 AM

No thanks. 49 bands is too many already. Who's left anyway? The Partridge Family?

HahnSolo May 17 2006 10:12 AM

Hey, hey, there's the Monkees.

Willets Point May 17 2006 11:48 AM

I've got a list of bands the length of my arm that I'd like to introduce or see someone else introduce. Here are some of the bands I'm thinking of introducing, although I won't complain if someone else takes them before me: Buddy Holly & the Crickets Cracker Crosby, Stills & Nash Fishbone Pixies Public Enemy The Specials Traffic Violent Femmes Yo La Tengo Here are some bands I don't know enough about to sponsor or just don't like but can imagine someone would want to take them on: Cream The Everly Brothers Flaming Lips Grateful Dead Midnight Oil Ramones Sly & the Family Stone The Smiths Weezer Wilco Wings So if anyone is at a loss for a band to sponsor feel free to crib off this list.

Rockin' Doc May 17 2006 08:57 PM

I have my next sponsoree picked out. I'm just hoping they don't get signed before my next turn comes around.

cooby May 17 2006 08:59 PM

If it's Fifth Dimension, I might let you have them for a price

Willets Point May 17 2006 09:03 PM

Let the sun shine, cooby. In Action Led Zeppelin v. Jimi Hendrix Experience - closes Thursday at 10:46 PM The Police v. Aerosmith - closes Friday 12:48 PM Next up: Scarlett Knight

ScarletKnight41 May 17 2006 09:05 PM

When do I go?

Willets Point May 17 2006 09:06 PM

When you want.

ScarletKnight41 May 17 2006 09:08 PM

Cool - I'll have something to go soon!

Edgy DC May 18 2006 10:00 AM

]Who's left anyway? The Partridge Family? You gots to be joking. Countless bands out there, and as long as one --- by your count --- is better than the least on our list, justice is being denied. Bring the English Beat NOW!!!! BLC is biased against ska! Sponsor Hum Machine, baby!

Willets Point May 18 2006 03:20 PM

I've got a ska band on my short list. Sponsoring Hum Machine is too intimidating for me, I'll leave that to TransMonk.

Willets Point May 18 2006 03:40 PM

In Action Led Zeppelin v. Jimi Hendrix Experience - closes Thursday at 10:46 PM The Police v. Aerosmith - closes Friday 12:48 PM Dave Matthews Band v. Los Lobos - closes Friday 9:22 PM Up Next Ben Folds Five may challenge up to the Steve Miller Band. Are they interested or do they pass? Cooby's on deck.

ScarletKnight41 May 18 2006 04:41 PM

I just challenged with DMB - isn't that all I'm allowed right now?

sharpie May 18 2006 04:55 PM

No, when it's your turn you can challenge with existing bands plus add new ones. Ben Folds Five, however, may only challenge the Steve Miller Band as their "ceiling" is the Eagles.

ScarletKnight41 May 18 2006 05:08 PM

OK - I'll challenge the Steve Miller Band in a minute.

Willets Point May 22 2006 09:34 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 22 2006 06:06 PM

I think I've got this all up to date. I'm sure my skilled copy editor sharpie will let me know otherwise. In Action Ben Folds Five v. Steve Miller Band - closes Tuesday 11:46 AM Santana v. Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band - closes Wednesday 4:40 PM At the Plate Cooby introduced the new band Santana. ELO and the Guess Who are also eligible to challenge up. Jimi Hendrix Experience, coming off a hard loss to Led Zeppelin, is not. On Deck Seawolf17. Later this week we may hope to see a new band and a challenge up by Def Leppard.

sharpie May 22 2006 09:51 AM

Copyediting: Los Lobos is 0-2.

seawolf17 May 22 2006 10:01 AM

I'll post tomorrow. I will have three bands in action, including a rematch for AC/DC. Aerosmith will sit and lick their wounds for a bit.

sharpie May 22 2006 04:11 PM

]I will have three bands in action, including a rematch for AC/DC. AC/DC hasn't won a match since their loss to Pink Floyd so they can't ask for a rematch yet.

Willets Point May 24 2006 11:06 AM

In Action Santana v. Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band - closes Wednesday 4:40 PM Ben Folds Five v. Steve Miller Band - closes Thursday 3:31 PM Cooby must be busy with her new job since she' s not posting much and hasn't mentioned whether or not she's challenging up with ELO and the Guess Who.

Edgy DC May 24 2006 04:57 PM

Strong showing by Santana making a fight of it by going after a top-five band with a debut attack. Willets, if you want to make a reponse free standings thread you can make one and lock it after your initial post. Then sticky it for a few hours every time you update it.

seawolf17 May 24 2006 04:58 PM

Should I wait or should I post?

sharpie May 24 2006 05:00 PM

Go for it.

Willets Point May 24 2006 05:02 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Willets, if you want to make a reponse free standings thread you can make one and lock it after your initial post. Then sticky it for a few hours every time you update it. I gave up on that long ago.

cooby May 24 2006 06:59 PM

="Willets Point"]In Action Santana v. Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band - closes Wednesday 4:40 PM Ben Folds Five v. Steve Miller Band - closes Thursday 3:31 PM Cooby must be busy with her new job since she' s not posting much and hasn't mentioned whether or not she's challenging up with ELO and the Guess Who. Very busy, no internet, no time even if there was, alas. So, no and no

Willets Point May 26 2006 06:54 PM

In Action Red Hot Chili Peppers v The Kinks - closes Tuesday 9:19 AM (I extended this by one day due to the holiday) Next Up Olerud Owned may challenge up with Black Sabbath and introduce a new band.

Willets Point May 30 2006 09:33 AM

Olerud Owned this is your team, your time.

sharpie May 30 2006 10:00 AM

Lenny is up after Olerud Owned. He goes away tomorrow on a school trip for 3 days so either he goes this afternoon (and doesn't vote in any of his challenges) or he goes next week. Either way is ok.

Willets Point May 30 2006 01:10 PM

How 'bout if Lenny waits until next week so he can vote and doesn't have to rush. We can just stick him the rotation when he comes along.

sharpie May 30 2006 01:57 PM

'Kay. Lundy oughta be warming up in the bullpen.

Edgy DC May 30 2006 03:21 PM

O.O., get in the show.

Willets Point May 31 2006 11:40 AM

Olerud Owned has brought the BLC to a screeching halt. So I'm going to skip him (he can pop back in if he likes though). Lenny Harris won't be available until next week, sooooooooo....next up is Lundy who may challenge up with the Beach Boys and Rush and introduce a new band if he wishes, that is if the twins give him a break.

sharpie May 31 2006 12:11 PM

Lundy's probably listening to a lot of Raffi right about now.

cooby May 31 2006 06:57 PM

Psst...Lenny...I'm a Sensation

Lundy Jun 01 2006 09:29 AM

]Lundy's probably listening to a lot of Raffi right about now. Laurie Berkner, actually. But I'll try and have something to go later on today.

Willets Point Jun 01 2006 09:42 AM

Lundy wrote: ]Lundy's probably listening to a lot of Raffi right about now. Laurie Berkner, actually. But I'll try and have something to go later on today. Not a band, you'll have to go with the Wiggles.

Willets Point Jun 01 2006 09:32 PM

In Action The Allman Brothers v. Santana - closes Monday 7:55 PM Don't know if Lundy plans to challenge up with the Beach Boys and Rush or if one band is more than enough between feedings and diaper changes. I should add that I'll be internet free from June 3-June 11 so someone else will have to take over updating the list (you'll have to copy into a new thread obviously since you can't update my posts).

sharpie Jun 06 2006 09:04 AM

Lenny will go tomorrow.

Edgy DC Jun 06 2006 10:19 AM

Lundy, more.

sharpie Jun 08 2006 11:36 AM

Elster, Dickshot, Soupcan, put up your dukes.

soupcan Jun 08 2006 11:41 AM

Um...okay?

Johnny Dickshot Jun 08 2006 11:59 AM

I wanna rock! (Rock!) I wanna rock! (Rock!) I. Want. To. Rock. (Rock!) I wanna rock! (Rock!)

sharpie Jun 08 2006 12:07 PM

]Um...okay? If you look down further, you'll see you've been challenged.

Willets Point Jun 12 2006 04:13 PM

Did anyone keep this up to date or do I have a lot of work to do?

sharpie Jun 12 2006 04:21 PM

No one felt that they could do what you can do, Willets. It would be a desecration. Santana defeated Allmans. Queen held off Nirvana. Time about to run out on Ramones/GNR. Who/Zep goes til, I guess, midnight Tuesday/Wednesday since Soupcan didn't put up his list til Saturday. Rotblatt should be at bat.

Edgy DC Jun 12 2006 04:29 PM

I counted wrong again. And again prematurely congratulated the eventual loser.

Willets Point Jun 12 2006 04:40 PM

Edgy DC wrote: I counted wrong again. And again prematurely congratulated the eventual loser. I have the consolation that being the vote counter actually sucks more than being the ladder maintainer.

Edgy DC Jun 12 2006 04:48 PM

No, I'm just the sucky backup to the Sharpie here. I'm the first-string Gridmaker, though.

Edgy DC Jun 12 2006 05:11 PM

By the way, I'm suggesting a new headache for youse here, but maybe the standings can include notation as to whether a band's most recent contest was a win (qualifying them for a rematch against a band they've lost to) or a loss. How do peeps feel about the gotta-win-for-a-rematch rule?

sharpie Jun 12 2006 05:12 PM

I think its a good one. I'm not a big fan of rematches.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 12 2006 05:18 PM

sharpie wrote: I think its a good one. I'm not a big fan of rematches. But 'gotta win' in half the cases means 'rematch'.

Edgy DC Jun 12 2006 05:23 PM

Well, you can either win against a band below the one you want to rematch against (but above yours), or, if you are pinned directly below the band who beatcha, you can win by defending yourself from an attack below. Sometimes that means waiting too long though. Waiting until your turn comes around, now that the contest has broadened so, may lend enough seriousness to a rematch. ="Johnny Dickshot"]Retarded question: Aren't all bands that have yet to win a challenge essentially on the same rung of the ladder, or rather, gathered on the floor trying to take the first step? If I understand him correctly, is Johnny saying that a band that beats an 0-1 band should be ranked ahead of all 0-1 bands?

sharpie Jun 12 2006 05:26 PM

What I think Johnny means is that anytime you fail to defend your spot, the other band is always seeded right above you. Until they win a higher match, you are stuck until you declare a rematch.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 12 2006 05:32 PM

Yeah. I didn't know a win meant defending a challenge from below. So in that case Queen's win today means it may re-challenge the Doors, for example?

sharpie Jun 12 2006 05:37 PM

No. 'Cause you're blocked by the Velvet Underground. Gotta beat them first.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 12 2006 05:40 PM

Yeah, that's who I meant.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 12 2006 05:45 PM

Yeah, that's who I meant. I think perhaps we should encourage bands who challenge and win to continue challenging up the ladder until blocked, even if its just one rung at a time.

sharpie Jun 12 2006 05:49 PM

I agree with that sentiment.

Willets Point Jun 12 2006 05:57 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: I think perhaps we should encourage bands who challenge and win to continue challenging up the ladder until blocked, even if its just one rung at a time. Would be a lot easier if we didn't have to wait a month or more in-between making challenges and go back to being able to challenge any time once a band is in the ladder (yeah, I have an agenda what do you want to make of it?).

Johnny Dickshot Jun 14 2006 09:30 AM

Who's at-bat?

sharpie Jun 14 2006 09:53 AM

Rotblatt is Atblatt

MFS62 Jun 14 2006 10:43 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2006 10:44 AM

Too bad I'm late to this party. I think there's a rock band that could kick the asses of everyone on that list, with possibly three or four exceptions. And while everyone here probably knows who they are and has heard them, nobody has mentioned them (that I've seen). But it would appear too late to throw them into the fray because it would take ages to have them fight their way up the ladder. Take a look at the list and see if you can guess who they are, whether you would nominate them or not. slap slap You have been challenged. Later

Edgy DC Jun 14 2006 10:44 AM

You're welcome to nominate Foghat at any time, MFS.

Edgy DC Jun 14 2006 10:45 AM

By the way, anybody who wants to write Big Daddy Lundy, please do.

MFS62 Jun 14 2006 10:46 AM

="Edgy DC"]You're welcome to nominate Foghat at any time, MFS. Hardly. Later

Edgy DC Jun 14 2006 10:47 AM

Well, then, please jump in and nominate anybody you choose.

MFS62 Jun 14 2006 10:53 AM

Nahh. That would be too easy. Let's hear from some of the other participants. Here's a clue: Every one of the groups nominated so far have one thing in common. This group doesn't. Think outside the box. Later

Willets Point Jun 14 2006 10:54 AM

sharpie wrote: No one felt that they could do what you can do, Willets. It would be a desecration. Santana defeated Allmans. Queen held off Nirvana. Time about to run out on Ramones/GNR. Who/Zep goes til, I guess, midnight Tuesday/Wednesday since Soupcan didn't put up his list til Saturday. Rotblatt should be at bat. I updated the ladder based on this info. If I'm missing anything else let me know.

sharpie Jun 14 2006 11:00 AM

The common denominators I see of the current groups are: All of the groups actually existed (weren't cartoons or fictional) All of them sing in English. All of them sing (no instrumental-only groups). As far as climbing the ladder, MFS62, you can enter anywhere you want. The Ramones entered at #14 by challenging the band that was at that time #14. You can put your group up against the Beatles if you want. The only requirement for groups is that they are groups (no solo acts) and that they play instruments (no vocal-only groups). Willets, I think you got everything.

MFS62 Jun 14 2006 11:13 AM

Sharpie, you missed another common denominator. This makes me think that the band is right when they say they never got the respect they deserved. More hints: They've been around for at least two decades. They are still recording and (I think) still tour to packed houses. They have had hit albumns (CDs for you younger folks) and singles. All the singers play instruments. C'mon Later

Johnny Dickshot Jun 14 2006 11:46 AM

This isn't a guessing game it's a ladder challenge. Now go put Chicago against whoever you want.

MFS62 Jun 14 2006 12:00 PM

Sorry. I've encountered flak about Chicago in discussions about song parodies. I would predict doom for them if I proposed them for a challenge. OK, its Heart. So there. Happy? Later

Johnny Dickshot Jun 14 2006 12:03 PM

And whom shall Heart be challenging? I guess the uniqueness is that they contain sisters? We have bands with sibs already (Van halen), at at least one with a chick singer (Pretenders).

MFS62 Jun 14 2006 12:10 PM

Nope. As I said, I don't want to challenge anyone. But I do think their body of work is vastly superior to many of the other groups nominated. And, its not really that they include sisters. The exception as I see it is they have two female lead singers. I originally thought that there were no groups with even one. But after I posted my hint, I realized that the Pretenders were on the list, with one (great) female lead singer. Anyone want to take up the cudgel for them? Later

sharpie Jun 14 2006 12:18 PM

No, we want you to do it. You're the one who probably knows which 10 Heart songs are the best ones (I can only think of three but I'd be willing to check out 7 others that you might recommend in a challenge).

Edgy DC Jun 14 2006 12:57 PM

The Who/Led Zep was a nice matchup. Too bad it wasn't closer. I guess different matchups might have made it so, but, hey, the Who are now a top five band. The FM rock stations that I partially grew up on had a holy quadogy (I made that word up) of Beatles/Zep/Stones/Who. There were those four bands and everybody else. They would even have entire weekends on WNEW devoted exclusively to those four catalogs. But according to our rankings, the Doors and the E Streeters have bum-rushed that stage. And how long can Talking Heads hold out? As it is, Guns and Roses, for all Elster88's incrdulity that they aren't more respected, are the highest ranking non-Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame act. The highest ranking eligible act (Prince went in without the Revolution, but even if they were to get an additional honor, they likely don't qualify under the 25-year clause yet), is the Wailers, left behind when Marley went in. I think the highest-ranking eligible band that nonetheless aren't inductees and have no members that are inductees is Van Halen. They'll go in any moment. After them is The Cure, who aren't such a sure thing. Another interesting tidbit --- both the Ramones and the Clash went in with both of their drummers. AC/DC's induction included both of their singers. Maybe they're trying to sort out the van Halen vocalist issue before they induct them.

sharpie Jun 14 2006 01:24 PM

Meanwhile Rotblatt seems to be transfixed with the World Cup and not the local race. How long can Talking Heads hold out? Well, they've vanquished the Wailers, Creedence and the Pretenders who have dared to try to take them down a peg.

Willets Point Jun 15 2006 03:41 PM

Rottblatt and his "P" bands all challenge up which will take us through the weekend. The Pogues v. The Kinks -- CLOSES Monday 11 am Parliament v The Clash -- CLOSES Monday 11:23 am Pixies v U2 -- CLOSES Monday 3:12 pm Metirish will be next up.

Edgy DC Jun 15 2006 03:52 PM

Lundy, I'm calling out to ya.

sharpie Jun 15 2006 04:51 PM

I think Lundy didn't want to challenge up on his bands this time around. Which is his right. Metsirish is who we should be looking towards (though there are 3 good ones on the board now).

sharpie Jun 19 2006 12:30 PM

Mesirish, you're up. Cure can challenge the Pretenders or Steely Dan or ask for a re-match vs. Van Halen. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds can challenge from #11 on down and we'd like a new band. Thin Lizzie is blocked for now.

Willets Point Jun 19 2006 12:36 PM

Wow, I might actually get a turn some time after Independence Day.

Willets Point Jun 19 2006 08:54 PM

In Action Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds v. The Police - closes Wed. 3:42 PM The Cure v. The Pretenders - closes Wed. 4:36 PM I take it Metirish is not going to introduce a new band. If this is correct - and Irish do let us know - then we're back to the top of the order with Sharpie.

metirish Jun 19 2006 09:08 PM

NO new band for me.....thanks .

sharpie Jun 20 2006 08:54 AM

I'll go tomorrow so that folks can concentrate -- hard -- on the two that are already on board.

Edgy DC Jun 20 2006 09:17 AM

I want two new bands to make up for irish.

sharpie Jun 20 2006 09:28 AM

No. I'm thinking one new one and a couple of challenges.

Edgy DC Jun 20 2006 09:34 AM

No, I mean I want to get to nominate two new bands myself.

sharpie Jun 20 2006 09:57 AM

This is a marathon, not a sprint. Plenty of time for bands to join, one at a time.

Elster88 Jun 20 2006 10:01 AM

This is an extremely long marathon.

Edgy DC Jun 20 2006 10:10 AM

Damn, only one new band. And I had already gone and found a logo for Chilliwack.

Elster88 Jun 20 2006 10:12 AM

]Guns and Roses, for all Elster88's incrdulity that they aren't more respected I don't think incredulity is the right word.

Willets Point Jun 20 2006 10:16 AM

This is more like a cricket match than a marathon. My last turn was in late April although I'm starting to see the light at the end of the tunnell.

Willets Point Jun 21 2006 03:36 PM

In Action The Cure v. The Pretenders - closes Wed. 4:36 PM Elvis Costello & the Attractions v. Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - closes Fri. 10 AM Cream v. Electric Light Orchestra - awaiting Cooby's response The Clash v. Creedence Clearwater Revival - awaiting Rockin' Doc's response. Johnny Dickshot will have the next turn once some of these matchups are settled.

Willets Point Jun 23 2006 01:19 PM

In Action Cream v. Electric Light Orchestra - closes Mon. 4:23 PM The Clash v. Creedence Clearwater Revival - awaiting the return of Rockin' Doc. Johnny Dickshot is strolling to the plate.

Edgy DC Jun 23 2006 01:29 PM

Foxwoods line on his next contestant: Gerry and the Pacemakers 40-1 George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers 20-1 Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes 18-1 The Yardbirds 15-1 The Animals 12-1 Steve Earl and the Dukes 11-1 Steve Ray Vaughn and Double Trouble 10-1 The English Beat 10-1 Soundgarden 19-2 The Byrds 15-2 Fleetwood Mac 6-1 Cheap Trick 4-1 Buddy Holly and the Crickets 4-1 Field 3-2

sharpie Jun 23 2006 01:29 PM

With Elvis Costello movin' on up, I'm not sure if REM's ceiling is still EC&TA. Music Archives drops off before REM's first loss is noted. Dickshot will probably remember.

Willets Point Jun 23 2006 01:32 PM

Dickshot alternates bands I can't stand with bands I consider the greats. Since it's "can't stand's" turn I'm guessing he goes with Cheap Trick.

Edgy DC Jun 23 2006 01:41 PM

Speaking of which, I guess there's probably money riding on the Cars and Boston as well.

Willets Point Jun 23 2006 02:18 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Speaking of which, I guess there's probably money riding on the Cars and Boston as well. Ya called it.

Willets Point Jun 23 2006 03:38 PM

In Action Cream v. Electric Light Orchestra - closes Mon. 4:23 PM The Clash v. Creedence Clearwater Revival - awaiting the return of Rockin' Doc. REM v. Aerosmith - closes Tuesday 2:35 PM The Cars vs. The Cure - closes Tuesday 2:36 PM Bruce v. Rolling Stones ('Some Girls' Challenge!) - closes Tuesday 2:41 PM Next up: Edgy DC with Bob Marley & The Wailers and a new band.

Rockin' Doc Jun 27 2006 12:11 AM

Just catching up on reading after a prolonged absence from the board. I will get a line up posted in the Clash vs. CCR thread, shortly.

Willets Point Jun 27 2006 12:18 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2006 01:07 AM

In Action REM v. Aerosmith - closes Tuesday 2:35 PM The Cars vs. The Cure - closes Tuesday 2:36 PM Bruce v. Rolling Stones ('Some Girls' Challenge!) - closes Tuesday 2:41 PM The Clash v. Creedence Clearwater Revival - closes Thursday 12:21 am Next up: Edgy DC with Bob Marley & The Wailers and a new band. Line on Edgy's next band: Air Supply 40-1 The Waitresses 20-1 Til Tuesday 18-1 Frankie Goes to Hollywood 15-1 The Blasters 12-1 Robert Cray Band 10-1 Husker Du 19-2 The Waterboys15-2 Sly & The Family Stone 6-1 The English Beat 4-1 The Monkees 4-1 The Replacements 3-2

Edgy DC Jun 27 2006 12:23 AM

Not bad. I hope only dumb money is on Frankie though.

Willets Point Jun 27 2006 01:42 AM

Edgy DC wrote: Not bad. I hope only dumb money is on Frankie though. People have been coming forward, eager to place that bet. But I've been telling them, "relax...don't do it."

Willets Point Jun 27 2006 02:56 PM

We need the tallyman to tally me some BLC. Sharpie, where art thou?

sharpie Jun 27 2006 03:04 PM

Done, done and done. Please note that the Doors new "ceiling" is the Rolling Stones, not Bruce.

Willets Point Jun 27 2006 03:14 PM

Thanks. Done.

Willets Point Jun 28 2006 12:50 AM

In Action The Clash v. Creedence Clearwater Revival - closes Thursday 12:21 am The (English) Beat v. They Might Be Giants - closes Friday 12:36 am Bob Marley & the Wailers v. ????

Willets Point Jun 30 2006 02:44 PM

In Action Bob Marley & the Wailers v. The Velvet Underground - Closes Mon. July 3 @ 2:32 PM They Might Be Giants v. The Cure - Awaiting Metirish's response. Radiohead v. AC/DC - Awaiting Seawolf17's response. Buddy Holly and the Crickets v. Elvis Costello and the Attractions - Awaiting sharpie's response (I tried to get this in before he went away but I think he's gone). On Deck Vic Sage - Steve Miller Band are blocked but Vic may introduce a new band.

Elster88 Jun 30 2006 02:49 PM

Willets Point wrote: Vic Sage - Steve Miller Band are blocked but Vic may introduce a new band. The group members are blocked....but the group is blocked. Or so I was led to believe in elementary school.

Willets Point Jun 30 2006 03:03 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 05 2006 10:39 AM

Only five minutes to catch my deliberate usage flaw. You get the prize. In Action Bob Marley & the Wailers v. The Velvet Underground - Closes Wed. July 5 @ 2:32 PM. They Might Be Giants v. The Cure - Closes Thurs July 6 @ 2:56 PM. Radiohead v. AC/DC - Closes Thurs July 6 @ 3:11 PM. Buddy Holly and the Crickets v. Elvis Costello and the Attractions - Awaiting sharpie's response (I tried to get this in before he went away but I think he's gone). On Deck Vic Sage - Steve Miller Band is blocked but Vic may introduce a new band.

Edgy DC Jun 30 2006 03:03 PM

We can keep bumping that sucker until sharperson gets back, or we can take his last ten.

Edgy DC Jul 07 2006 11:20 AM

Bumping for the Transmonk.

Willets Point Jul 07 2006 02:24 PM

Vic is rarely here and I have a sense that he doesn't want to introduce a new band so we can skip ahead to Rockin' Doc's turn. New sponsors are always welcome. Voters would really be appreciated.

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2006 06:10 PM

I have a band picked out, now I just have to put together a line up of songs and decide where to jump in. I will launch challenges with all of my bands that are able to attempt a move up. I will jump in either tonight or tomorrow afternoon.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 07 2006 08:24 PM

I'm ready to run with the Byrds now if no one has 'em yet.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 07 2006 08:32 PM

Throw 'em up there

A Boy Named Seo Jul 07 2006 08:45 PM

I want the Velvet Underground. Do I just start a challenge thread or who and what?

Rockin' Doc Jul 08 2006 12:07 AM

The Smithereens are currently formulating a playlist.

Edgy DC Jul 08 2006 04:16 AM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: I want the Velvet Underground. Do I just start a challenge thread or who and what? Yup. Start a thread titled: "BLC: Byrds vs. Velvet Underground and then list your fightingest ten Byrds tracks in the first post. It strikes me that the Smithereens are a damn good example of an influence hybrid of the Byrds and the Velvets.

Willets Point Jul 08 2006 01:06 PM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: I'm ready to run with the Byrds now if no one has 'em yet. Awesome. I considered the Byrds but felt underqualified to represent their best especially their later counry rock stuff which seems to get a lot of criticial praise but no classic rock radio play.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 08 2006 01:50 PM

I'm going to try to exercise restraint with the country rock, but it must be represented. Here we go.