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Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 26 2019 12:39 PM

First count daughter Ivanka Trump, who is less qualified to be an adviser to the President that I am, (and I'm about as qualified to be a Presidential adviser as my neighbor's pet dog) and who, if she wasn't born into her scumbag father's family, would be sharing a one bedroom rental apartment on the Upper East Side with 13 roommates and eating nothing but ramen noodles to afford her portion of the rent, says that people don't want to be handed jobs—they want to pull themselves up by their bootstraps like her. "This idea of a guaranteed minimum is not something most people want". https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/ivanka-trump-jobs-guarantee Ivanka Trump comes from a long line of assholes who confuse inheriting money with hard work. For years, her father, Donald Trump, has claimed to be a self-made man when, in fact, he received hundreds of millions from his dad, beginning with $200,000 a year in today's dollars at age three. Fred Trump also bailed his son out of a number of historically dumb business decisions, including somehow bankrupting a casino. Ivanka and her brothers Don Jr. and Eric have only ever worked for Daddy, or started crappy companies with his money. Ivanka's husband, Jared Kushner, has taken a similar path, using his convict father's cash to buy and destroy a newspaper, and working for the family business, where he probably would've been fired were it not for his ties to the boss. The First Daughter and her spouse have, of course, been employed at the White House for the last two years as senior advisers to the president, roles they're not remotely qualified to hold. They also collect millions of dollars a year for doing nothing. Yet, according to Princess Purses, a government proposal to guarantee every American a job is a terrible idea that no one should support. In an interview with Fox News that will air on Sunday, Ivanka was asked what she thought about Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Green New Deal, specifically the part of the plan that ensures “a job with a family-sustaining wage . . . to all people of the United States.” What would she say to “people who will see that offer from the Democrats . . . and think, ‘Yeah, that's what I want'”? host Steve Hilton wondered. To which the heiress, who has literally been handed everything her entire life thanks to federal housing subsidies her grandfather received from the government, responded: “I don't think most Americans, in their heart, want to be given something. I've spent a lot of time traveling around this country over the last four years. People want to work for what they get. So, I think this idea of a guaranteed minimum is not something most people want. They want the ability to be able to secure a job.” Like her father, Ivanka's comments often need to be translated from their original Trump to be remotely comprehensible, and here, it's not totally clear what the hell she's talking about. A federal-jobs guarantee would, of course, not preclude people from obtaining employment on their own, and if people “want to work for what they get,” they'd be in luck, since, outside of corrupt family businesses and lemonade stands that involve forcing your chauffeur and bodyguard to buy all of your product, jobs usually involve working. Oh, and speaking of jobs, did you hear the one about how the First Daughter created millions of them? President Donald Trump touted his daughter/senior adviser Ivanka for having “created millions of jobs” in a speech to the bipartisan National Governors Association Monday. “My daughter, Ivanka, who is going to be speaking later, is—she has been so much involved. So incredibly involved,” Trump said. “My daughter has created millions of jobs. I don't know if anyone knows that, but she's created millions of jobs.” No one knows that, because it's not true at all—but this family has never been one to let the facts get in the way of a con.

Lefty Specialist Feb 26 2019 01:20 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

“I don't think most Americans, in their heart, want to be given something,” Ivanka Trump said of the Green New Deal's job guarantees initiative. “I've spent a lot of time traveling around this country over the last four years,” she added. “People want to work for what they get.” How the person interviewing her didn't burst out laughing I'll never know.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 26 2019 02:13 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

It's all bullshit. Especially this part: "I've spent a lot of time traveling around this country over the last four years. People want to work for what they get." It's a variation out of her scumbag father's con playbook -- "people told me"; "people are telling me". Here's good ol' Charlie Pierce riffing on the first count daughter and her scumbag father: I'm in Awe of This Mountain of Complete Bullshit The president* unleashes a gobsmacking lie about his daughter's business credentials, and she supplements it with some delusion of her own. El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago must be sweating Michael Cohen's upcoming testimony this week, because he's activated his human shield again. It's Ivanka Week in the news! First, there was this gigantic whopper of a truthless lie. From Fortune: My daughter, Ivanka, who is going to be speaking later, is—she has been so much involved. So incredibly involved. My daughter has created millions of jobs. I don't know if anyone knows that, but she's created millions of jobs. As the Intertoobz exploded in awe and delight at the majesty of this lofty mountain of complete bullshit, the princess herself took to Fox News, via Axios, to make her pitch for the kind of rugged individualism that is exemplified by her whole life. I don't think most Americans, in their heart, want to be given something. ... People want to work for what they get. So, I think that this idea of a guaranteed minimum is not something most people want. I dunno. A guaranteed minimum of pronouncements from this worthless pack of grifters is something I could get behind. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a26534684/ivanka-trump-millions-of-jobs-work-guaranteed-minimum/

Lefty Specialist Feb 26 2019 02:47 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/wait-a-secondivanka-fing-trump-says-americans-prefer-to-own-their-own-money?ref=home

MFS62 Feb 26 2019 07:18 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=3466 time=1551215624 user_id=68] My daughter, Ivanka, who is going to be speaking later, is—she has been so much involved. So incredibly involved.

To me, that sounds like an un-indicted co-conspirator who won't have to work too hard to get indicted.



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Lefty Specialist Feb 26 2019 09:11 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

When Cohen is testifying Wednesday I hope he takes the time to drop a dime on Ivanka. She's up to her neck in all the shady dealings and she's been unscathed so far.

Theoldmole Mar 02 2019 02:15 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

Your neighbor's pet dog isn't named Sam, by any chance?

Theoldmole Mar 02 2019 02:17 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

Want to get up a pool on the date of the Ivanka-Jared split announcement?

Lefty Specialist Mar 02 2019 03:49 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

They're not splitting. Each knows too much about the other.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 04 2019 11:12 AM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

=Theoldmole post_id=3699 time=1551561342 user_id=77] Your neighbor's pet dog isn't named Sam, by any chance?

Hah. (!Thougb I cant believe you're sticking up for Ivanka).

batmagadanleadoff Mar 28 2019 10:36 AM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

Look af this website I found: https://www.ivankatrumpisacunt.com/

MFS62 Mar 28 2019 11:30 AM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

Look af this website I found: https://www.ivankatrumpisacunt.com/ Whoever put that up is treating her better than she deserves. Later

MFS62 Jun 16 2019 07:32 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

I saw this headline on my Yahoo Political news feed: Ivanka Trump Cashed $4 Million From Her Father's D.C. Hotel in 2018 My first thought was, "I wonder how many tricks she had to turn to make that much"? Later

Lefty Specialist Jun 17 2019 07:05 AM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

I saw this headline on my Yahoo Political news feed: Ivanka Trump Cashed $4 Million From Her Father's D.C. Hotel in 2018 My first thought was, "I wonder how many tricks she had to turn to make that much"? Later One night with a Saudi would do it. I imagine Jared would watch.

whippoorwill Jun 20 2019 06:26 AM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

And her dad

MFS62 Jun 20 2019 07:05 AM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

=whippoorwill post_id=13628 time=1561033607 user_id=79]And her dad

:)



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MFS62 Nov 17 2020 01:41 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

Glamour Magazine's good-bye to Ivanka:(more like a parting shot) https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/ivanka-trump-tries-rebrand-don-184600862.html But powerful is not the same as good. Strong is not the same as feminist. Trump's success comes at the expense of most other women—most people. She's the ultimate, unhealthy product of the culture of the “girl boss”—she's what we get when we seize on the idea that women must support women who are conventionally successful, even if their success lies in disenfranchising other women. Later

MFS62 Nov 17 2020 03:00 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

And another article today from People, written by a childhood best friend, now not, of Ivanka. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ivanka-trumps-childhood-best-friend-200624846.html "Aligning herself with her dad's banana republic-style administration made no sense to me, until my friend suggested that Ivanka took her kids to the rally to show them that they are American royalty," Ohrstrom writes. "This explanation seemed most plausible. What is more royal than presiding over subjects that you disdain?" Later

batmagadanleadoff Nov 17 2020 03:38 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

And another article today from People, written by a childhood best friend, now not, of Ivanka. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ivanka-trumps-childhood-best-friend-200624846.html "Aligning herself with her dad's banana republic-style administration made no sense to me, until my friend suggested that Ivanka took her kids to the rally to show them that they are American royalty," Ohrstrom writes. "This explanation seemed most plausible. What is more royal than presiding over subjects that you disdain?" I read that artice earlier today. That sentence you quote, with the "banana republic-style administration" reference, was my favorite of the whole piece. By the way, the web is chock full of those "Fuck You, Ivanka and Good Riddance, I hope you get yours" pieces that have been popping up all week long. What a fucking fraud. I wonder if she and her scumbag husband Jared are still deciding amongst themselves which of the two is going to be the US president before the other?

MFS62 Nov 30 2020 05:12 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

Ivanka - "Not Wanted!", with posters to show for it: https://www.yahoo.com/news/ivanka-trump-not-wanted-posters-232447488.html Later

Edgy MD Nov 30 2020 08:02 PM Re: Gah! It's the return of the Ivanka thread.

I think the "banana republic" reference is kind of dated. It's not meant just to describe a country whose government is sick to the core with corruption (which is an entirely accurate description of our government) but puppets of the United Fruit Company and therefore American interests. I wish our government had American interests pulling the strings.