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Shitty Field
batmagadanleadoff Apr 03 2019 11:07 AM |
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Ceetar Apr 03 2019 12:05 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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Lefty Specialist Apr 03 2019 01:51 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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kcmets Apr 03 2019 02:01 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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Ceetar Apr 03 2019 02:24 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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kcmets Apr 03 2019 02:30 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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nymr83 Apr 03 2019 02:55 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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dgwphotography Apr 03 2019 03:00 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 03 2019 03:20 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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Ask David Wright.
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kcmets Apr 03 2019 03:24 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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smg58 Apr 03 2019 03:53 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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Ceetar Apr 03 2019 05:35 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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Frayed Knot Apr 03 2019 06:02 PM Re: Shitty Field |
I have no idea how a stadium can affect exit velocity.
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Fman99 Apr 03 2019 06:04 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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nymr83 Apr 03 2019 06:56 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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maybe hitters are seeing the ball poorly - the "batters eye" isn't as clean/unobstructed as elsewhere and therefore they are getting less on it on average? that still wouldnt be a problem in my book. I would think a pitcher's park actually favors a team over the course of a season. if a typical home game has less scoring your guys should have to throw less pitches over the course of the year keeping them fresher.
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Frayed Knot Apr 03 2019 08:05 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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Edgy MD Apr 03 2019 08:25 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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dgwphotography Apr 04 2019 07:07 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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Right-click anywhere on the page, and click "View Source" It will show the page in html.
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smg58 Apr 04 2019 08:24 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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seawolf17 Apr 04 2019 08:34 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 04 2019 08:52 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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Lefty Specialist Apr 04 2019 09:14 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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Willets Point Apr 04 2019 09:35 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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smg58 Apr 04 2019 09:41 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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I was actually happy to see the Mets buck the trend of building bandboxes that took most of the "skill" out of hitting home runs. Places like Camden Yards, for example.
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 04 2019 10:04 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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I'm sure Jimmy Wynn was quite pleased to have to play in the Astrodome for so long. It might've cost him a spot in Cooperstown. I don't like bandboxes either. I don't like extreme stadiums in general. But you can build for a bandbox. You get top flight pitchers who, the idea is, could pitch anywhere. That's what the Phillies did 10 or so years ago, though they could rake too. But what do you do in a cavern? The ideal player there doesnt exist. He'd be someone who hits the ball so far so often that he'd hit 85 HRs in a neutral park.
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Edgy MD Apr 04 2019 10:21 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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nymr83 Apr 04 2019 10:23 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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what do you do in a cavern? you get Lagares to play CF. you get gap-hitters who have more gap to hit to.
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seawolf17 Apr 04 2019 10:31 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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Bingo. The mid-80s Cardinals: Coleman, McGee, Van Slyke left to right. Coleman obviously got worse in the field through the years, but McGee and Van Slyke were the real deals. And they averaged 30 triples a year between them.
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 04 2019 10:36 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 04 2019 10:39 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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Cavernous parks make every pitcher look better. And getting Willie McGee in the prime of his career when he was putting up MVP caliber numbers ( though not as MVP caliber as Dwight Gooden) is easier said than done. Because every other team would also want that Willie McGee.
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Edgy MD Apr 04 2019 10:56 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 04 2019 11:05 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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nymr83 Apr 04 2019 02:13 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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MFS62 Apr 04 2019 02:50 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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smg58 Apr 04 2019 08:27 PM Re: Shitty Field |
=batmagadanleadoff post_id=6361 time=1554393884 user_id=68]I'm sure Jimmy Wynn was quite pleased to have to play in the Astrodome for so long. It might've cost him a spot in Cooperstown. |
Edgy MD Apr 04 2019 09:23 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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G-Fafif Apr 05 2019 05:44 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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Ceetar Apr 05 2019 07:49 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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yeah, but the article isn't in there? You're actually seeing the text?
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dgwphotography Apr 05 2019 09:40 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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Yes - I read the entire article - Each paragraph is between the tags
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dgwphotography Apr 05 2019 09:42 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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Ceetar Apr 05 2019 09:49 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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thanks. I guess I suck at scrolling. I searched for the text above it but it didn't seem to continue.
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A Boy Named Seo Apr 05 2019 10:02 AM Re: Shitty Field |
The article says the the wind seems to pour in hard and low from CF and push hard to RF. The players notice it. Nimmo says it reminds him of the goddamn Wyoming plains.
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A Boy Named Seo Apr 05 2019 10:03 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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Ceetar Apr 05 2019 11:35 AM Re: Windy Field |
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 05 2019 11:38 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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Ceetar Apr 05 2019 11:49 AM Best Stadium in the division |
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 05 2019 12:04 PM Re: Shitty Field |
=Ceetar post_id=6491 time=1554486580 user_id=102]Play ball. |
Ceetar Apr 05 2019 12:10 PM Reduced Exit Velocity Field |
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 05 2019 12:24 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 05 2019 12:29 PM |
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Ceetar Apr 05 2019 12:28 PM Best field ever constructed |
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Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2019 02:34 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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smg58 Apr 05 2019 02:57 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 05 2019 03:16 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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There's nothing here to argue, really. Only to discuss. Except for Ceetar, who can't see past the thread title and is having mental breakdowns over it. He's one post away from telling us how beautiful the Citi Field scoreboards are. And it looks like this thread has morphed into two separate discussions: one about the WSJ article itself and one about cavernous stadiums in general. Not parks that might slightly favor pitchers, but cavernous stadiums like the original CF and the Astrodome. And as for those inside the parkers and triples, it's true that cavernous stadiums will yield a few more of those, but not nearly enough of them to overcome the would-be doubles and HRs that would be lost -- converted into outs because the outfielders have an extra 10 or 30 feet to run those balls down.
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Ceetar Apr 05 2019 05:31 PM Chilly Field |
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Methead Apr 05 2019 08:54 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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This is exactly what I have always thought as well Although it doesn't make much sense to design a ballpark to suit just one player, whose greatest asset is his speed, making right field huge when you've got another young guy whose greatest asset is his right field gap power, but then again all my friends and neighbors have heard me rant about this many times
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dgwphotography Apr 05 2019 10:51 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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nymr83 Apr 05 2019 11:42 PM Re: Shitty Field |
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the day after the home opener is an offday ..why? so that if it rains out you can play the next day and everyone who bought a ticket can still say they were at the "opener"? that is a good reason not to play on a Wednesday. on a friday? it sucks.
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Gwreck Apr 06 2019 12:46 AM Re: Shitty Field |
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That is precisely the reason that opening day typically has an off day afterwards. And given that the Mets sell out opening day, every year, at a premium price on every ticket, it seems that there are quite a few people who care about that. The Mets could presumably have their home opener as a Friday day game, with the off day on Thursday instead. That also though requires that the first Saturday game be a night game so the opener could be rescheduled as a doubleheader that Saturday. The Mets home opener was a Friday in 2016 and that'd be my preference.
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