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'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

Ceetar Apr 08 2019 07:46 AM

My hops are starting off looking rather nice this year. I've heard third year is when they're really established, so hopefully they'll flower this year. Cascade hops. Also going to try a raised bed veggie garden with the kids. bought some fencing so the chipmunks/squirrels/rabbits/deer/groundhog leave it alone. Hopefully. at least some of those tunnel.. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3ljdfqWwAIxdeK.jpg:large>

whippoorwill Apr 08 2019 09:17 AM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

I was going to try hops on my pergola. Do they get spidery? Do they die down? Would I have to clean off the stems each year? Would they grow from a pot?

A Boy Named Seo Apr 08 2019 09:41 AM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

Those the cascades? I wanna put em on a salad and chomp em.

Ceetar Apr 08 2019 12:10 PM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

yes they're Cascades. They absolutely grow from a (large) pot. They grow in long bines (up to 20-30 feet if healthy!) and you can train them along strings and such. They'd probably look great on a Pergola. You'd have to pull down the dead bines at the end of the season, yeah. You're supposed to cut them back to the base when they're done. They really just need a ton of sun and maybe some Nitrogen. (and water obviously) they're super hardy after the first year or two. I was scared to dig into the dirt to try to find/trim the rhizomes or I'd offer to send you some. I dunno if you can find them at garden shops but they're only like $5 from online shops. I might get another one to grow along the fencing I'm putting up around the raised bed.

whippoorwill Apr 08 2019 03:57 PM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

Thanks! My pergola is on our deck with full sun. Since it's on the deck I would have to put them in pots. Really appreciate the advice! Maybe if I do plant them I can send you the crop for your beer :)

Lefty Specialist Apr 08 2019 06:38 PM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

Growing Cascade and Centennial hops. Trained them up the sunny side of my house last year, which was their first year. Mine have poked up similar to yours and I'm very excited to see what I get the second year. I got a small crop in year 1, not really enough to do anything with. But those bines will really grow once they get going.

MFS62 Apr 09 2019 05:32 AM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

I'm going to have to plant row of some sort of fast growing hedge to block our view of the downed trees/ devastation from the microburst that hit last year. The tree guy who removed the tree that fell on our house said it would cost $20,000 (not covered by insurance) to cut up and remove those three once-sixty foot tall trees. I was thinking forsythia. Any other suggestions? Later

Ceetar Apr 09 2019 07:34 AM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

=whippoorwill post_id=6682 time=1554760665 user_id=79] Thanks! My pergola is on our deck with full sun. Since it's on the deck I would have to put them in pots. Really appreciate the advice! Maybe if I do plant them I can send you the crop for your beer :)

Fresh hops are always fun to play with!





I actually haven't gotten flowers/crop from mine yet, I'm hoping this year is the year. I don't get a ton of sun since I have so many trees, but this corner is often exposed to the one little patch of sky, and hopefully since they got going before the leaves block the sun, it'll give them enough of that photosynthesis stuff to jump start 'em.

whippoorwill Apr 09 2019 08:07 AM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

good luck!

Lefty Specialist Apr 09 2019 08:14 AM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

=MFS62 post_id=6707 time=1554809552 user_id=60] I'm going to have to plant row of some sort of fast growing hedge to block our view of the downed trees/ devastation from the microburst that hit last year. The tree guy who removed the tree that fell on our house said it would cost $20,000 (not covered by insurance) to cut up and remove those three once-sixty foot tall trees. I was thinking forsythia. Any other suggestions? Later

Don't do forsythia. They're pretty for one week a year, the rest of the time they're an invasive weed. You have to trim them constantly and they may spread to places you don't want them. They grow fast, but they don't grow tall.

Frayed Knot Apr 09 2019 12:47 PM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

=MFS62 post_id=6707 time=1554809552 user_id=60]The tree guy who removed the tree that fell on our house said it would cost $20,000 (not covered by insurance) to cut up and remove those three once-sixty foot tall trees.

Buy a $20 ax and go all Paul Bunyon on them yourself and save $19,980

Bonus: Free firewood for like years (assuming you don't fell the trees on yourself that is)











I'm attempting some potted plantings of rosemary, thyme, and scallions.

So far they're all still alive.

MFS62 Apr 09 2019 07:21 PM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

Frayed Knot wrote: Buy a $20 ax and go all Paul Bunyon on them yourself and save $19,980 Bonus: Free firewood for like years (assuming you don't fell the trees on yourself that is) They were 60' tall before they fell and are about 5-10 feet thick. The longest available chain saw can't do it. I'd need a profession saw and a professional to use it. The roots that got pulled out of the ground are thicker than my thigh. Sorry, hiding them is easier. Of course, if you want to come over with your axe, you can have all the firewood you can carry home. I won't even charge you for it. Later

kcmets Apr 09 2019 07:45 PM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

$20,000???

MFS62 Apr 09 2019 07:58 PM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

$20,000??? Yup. Got two bids, both similar. There is no easy access for a vehicle, so they would have to be chopped up to a size that could be moved to their truck (about 50 feet uphill). They make a natural "fence" between my property and my neighbor behind me, but the dead trunks and limbs are ugly and would detract from the sell-ability of the house. 'Tis a problem. Later

whippoorwill Apr 10 2019 02:34 PM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

MFS I feel your pain. Three years ago, Woolrich Inc. (the NOT Outdoor Company) hired a shitty tree service to cut down every single hardwood tree in the woods behind the two mile street leading up to their store, and then again on other property at the other edge of town. The ones the tree service didn't keep, they left lie there. The rest, they took out by the truck loads, month after month. We had a nice little picnic area with a grove of giant oak trees just on the fringe of our back yard. Came home one night to find every single oak tree now an ugly stump. What used to be a pleasant place to walk and generally relax is now a mess and what little plant life there back there is invasive brush. I finally, after three years, figured it had settled down enough to go out and try to find the shade gardens I had planted and the little campsites and airball forts that generations of Woolrich kids had made in the woods over the years, not to mention several pet cemeteries. All gone, or if they are there, it is impossible to get enough bearings to find where they might have been. Anyway the view from our house sucks now. I've planted various trees along the tree line (still on Woolrich property, the assholes) but I'll never live to see them mature. If they let them there. I was just back there today thinking about your problem. There are forsythias back there, but as said, they are really only pretty for a week or so and they don't grow all that quickly either :( Maybe a good gardening center could recommend something that grows quickly?

Frayed Knot Apr 10 2019 02:49 PM Re: 'Pooler, 'Pooler, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?

$20,000??? Yup. Got two bids, both similar. There is no easy access for a vehicle, so they would have to be chopped up to a size that could be moved to their truck (about 50 feet uphill). They make a natural "fence" between my property and my neighbor behind me, but the dead trunks and limbs are ugly and would detract from the sell-ability of the house. 20K seemed high to me at first too, but several thou per tree isn't unusual so when you triple that then add in the access problems etc. it makes more sense. A chunk of that cost is the hauling away part -- the tree folks either have to pay to dump it somewhere or pay in time and manpower to haul it away even if they have a free spot to discard -- so one way to save would be to split it into fireplace logs yourself only after each is taken down and left in reasonably sized cylinders (I was kidding about taking down the trees yourself, that would be kooky stuff) and/or offering those remains for free pick up via Craigslist or something similar and watch 'em disappear. Free firewood for years for you AND for all your neighbors!!