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IGT 4/15: Somebody to Shove, NYM @ PHI

Edgy MD
Apr 15 2019 03:55 PM

Noah Syndergaard takes the hill for the Mets first 2019 match against Philadelphia, as Aaron Nola, sporting an ERA in the Jason Vargas-as-a-Met range, opposes the invasion as best he can.



Overkill is the name of the game as everybody wears 42. And Budweiser offers this heartfelt ad at Mets.com.



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Edgy MD
Apr 15 2019 03:57 PM
Re: IGT 4/15: Somebody to Shove, NYM @ PHI

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  • [*]J.T. Realmuto (R), #42

  • [*]Odubel Herrera (L), #42

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    I thought the Mets had a lot of turnover, but that top half of the Phils lineup features actors we mostly know from other movies: McCutcheon, Segura, Harper, and Realmuto.

    A Boy Named Seo
    Apr 15 2019 04:06 PM
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    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 04:52 PM
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    I remember when Maikel Franco was the best hitter on the Phillies. They might be good this year.



    It feels like we are on a 5-game losing streak

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 05:39 PM
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    I don't know if you're getting this, but MLB.tv just played a HORRIBLE tribute-to-Jackie Robinson commercial featuring Mario Lopez, who was more or less the darkest-hued person in the spot.

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 06:10 PM
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    A sweet little rally, mostly with two outs, and the Mets are up 2-0.



    I had forgotten how much McCutcheon's arm had lost.

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 06:10 PM
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    Was getting ready to throw Ramos under the bus along with Cano. Nice, 3-0

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 06:11 PM
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    And Ramos beats Harper's arm!

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 06:11 PM
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    Realmuto's passed ball is the Miller Lite Turning Point

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 06:44 PM
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    Disappointing response from Syndy last half-inning.



    Thankfully, Nola is just as iffy tonight. More so, maybe. I'm guessing the wind is murder on grips?

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 06:45 PM
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    Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

    Was getting ready to throw Ramos under the bus along with Cano. Nice, 3-0


    Buck the heck? Ramos has been solid, and extra RISPy.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 06:49 PM
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    Cano to JCL: kiss my gapper.

    nymr83
    Apr 15 2019 06:50 PM
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    Cano is alive!

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 06:58 PM
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    Syndy is flatlining.

    Lefty Specialist
    Apr 15 2019 06:59 PM
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    Ugh. Syndergaard looking to get kicked out of the Marvel Universe.

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 07:06 PM
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    I'd love to see what Dickey's knuckler could do in these conditions. The Mets should sign him and get him here by the end of the game.



    Or perhaps better yet, call up Mickey Jannis.

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 07:41 PM
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    This is so cool. They just brought in Ron Taylor.

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 07:43 PM
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    Six runs a night is the new two runs a night

    seawolf17
    Apr 15 2019 07:48 PM
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    Segura had time to dive, get the ball, stand up, double-clutch, brush his teeth, file his taxes, THEN throw to first and Ramos was out by three steps. Was he hit by a piano on his way down the baseline?

    Fman99
    Apr 15 2019 07:58 PM
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    Well thank fucking God the forum is back. I was going shit ass crazy.

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 08:07 PM
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    =seawolf17 post_id=7253 time=1555379294 user_id=91]
    Segura had time to dive, get the ball, stand up, double-clutch, brush his teeth, file his taxes, THEN throw to first and Ramos was out by three steps. Was he hit by a piano on his way down the baseline?



    This is my werry with Ramos. Always grounding out.



    Meantime Mets playing hit-and-run a lot suddenly

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 08:08 PM
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    Sheesh, dumbest manager challenge ever. What's the delay?



    Is Philly trying to ice our kicker?

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 08:08 PM
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    I think the Phils think Lagares was forced at second

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 08:09 PM
    Re: IGT 4/15: Somebody to Shove, NYM @ PHI

    What?

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 08:09 PM
    Re: IGT 4/15: Somebody to Shove, NYM @ PHI

    FWHAT?!!

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 08:10 PM
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    Busted by the popup slide. Man alive.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 08:12 PM
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    They just walked Nimmo to get to you, Big Dick Energy. Punish them.

    nymr83
    Apr 15 2019 08:12 PM
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    why was Nimmo intentionally walked?

    nymr83
    Apr 15 2019 08:13 PM
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    =LWFS post_id=7262 time=1555380756 user_id=84]
    They just walked Nimmo to get to you, Big Dick Energy. Punish them.



    Big Dick Energy? what the heck was happening when this forum was down?

    HahnSolo
    Apr 15 2019 08:14 PM
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    Damn Juan, just slide and stay on the bag. What's the point of popping up like that? We get a gift and give it right back.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 08:15 PM
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    Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 15 2019 08:19 PM



    They just walked Nimmo to get to you, Big Dick Energy. Punish them.


    Big Dick Energy? what the heck was happening when this forum was down?


    PSST!



    Nimmo was walked because the pitcher went 2-0 on him.

    Fman99
    Apr 15 2019 08:18 PM
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    Pop up sliding is dumb.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 08:20 PM
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    Is it weird that the one guy who's given me the comfy-slippers feeling tonight from the moment he stepped on the mound was Lugo?



    FFS, Familia-- you had 20 minutes to warm up.

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 08:23 PM
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    You suck, Fammy

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 08:24 PM
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    Beer that man.

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 08:25 PM
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    Jeff McNeil is a nice baseball player.



    But tonight he becomes a man.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 08:26 PM
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    Still a dribbler/ducksnort/Familia dirtjob away from a tie bawwgame.

    seawolf17
    Apr 15 2019 08:28 PM
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    Jeebus. It's fricking April and I'm already in midseason late-inning panic mode.

    Centerfield
    Apr 15 2019 08:28 PM
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    Omg. Go get him dumbass

    Centerfield
    Apr 15 2019 08:28 PM
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    How much rope do you give him? Jesus Mickey. Wake up.

    seawolf17
    Apr 15 2019 08:29 PM
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    Familia's blowing this so he can vulture another W in the top of the ninth.

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 08:30 PM
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    Man, how long are they going to let him twist in the wind like this?

    Centerfield
    Apr 15 2019 08:30 PM
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    Oh hey. It's mickey. Didn't know you were still with us.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 08:32 PM
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    Gsellman. Ugh.



    If this isn't a spot for the big-money closer to go big-boy save, what is?

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 08:34 PM
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    Mercy me.

    41Forever
    Apr 15 2019 08:35 PM
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    I cannot believe that just happened.

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 08:36 PM
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    Happened.


    =LWFS post_id=7283 time=1555381921 user_id=84]
    Gsellman. Ugh.



    If this isn't a spot for the big-money closer to go big-boy save, what is?



    Yeah, but big boy saves have been banned or something.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 08:37 PM
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    Then fuck a big-boy save. Just get this out.

    41Forever
    Apr 15 2019 08:37 PM
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    At least Harper went down.

    nymr83
    Apr 15 2019 08:37 PM
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    that inning sucked. really sucked. at least give up hits! dont walk four fucking batters!

    Centerfield
    Apr 15 2019 08:38 PM
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    On Mickey. Stayed with Familia too long. Gave Gsellman no margin for error.



    I mean. Gsellman sucks too. Fucking Familia.

    seawolf17
    Apr 15 2019 08:40 PM
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    I *hate* bringing guys in with the bases loaded, especially when those guys are Mets relievers, who can't throw strikes for shit. Get Diaz in there BEFORE the bases are loaded and give him some fucking breathing room, at least.

    bmfc1
    Apr 15 2019 08:41 PM
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    The current way of thinking almost everywhere but the Mets is that you use your best reliever when you have to instead of saving him for a situation that might not happen. Mickey could have used Diaz for one batter but saved him for the 9th.

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 08:43 PM
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    I haven't seen other teams coming around to that way of thinking.



    I'd certainly applaud it if they did.

    seawolf17
    Apr 15 2019 08:44 PM
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    I mean, honestly, WHO THE HELL ARE YOU SAVING DIAZ FOR?!?! You've got the other team's best hitters coming up in a HUGE SPOT. Effin' hell.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 08:47 PM
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    It feels like a walk-off is coming.

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 08:47 PM
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    Nope. Tonight will be Paul Sewald's first career victory.



    I have foreseen it.

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 08:49 PM
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    Edgy MD wrote:

    Jeff McNeil is a nice baseball player.



    But tonight he becomes a man.


    A man and a half.

    41Forever
    Apr 15 2019 08:49 PM
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    McNeil flashing leather!

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 08:52 PM
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    Gzelly has a nice 9th.



    We need to finish these suckas now

    Centerfield
    Apr 15 2019 08:53 PM
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    Mickey Calloway has no problem bringing in Diaz up 4 runs in the ninth.



    But a one run lead in the 8th? Nah.

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 08:54 PM
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    Here's the way to win if you're complaisant with evil: With everybody wearing the same uniform number, no names on the back, and cowls on their face, the Mets triumph by putting Alonso back in the game but telling everybody it's d'Arnaud.

    seawolf17
    Apr 15 2019 08:55 PM
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    Good showing, Mets fans chanting at the ballpark. I hear you.

    HahnSolo
    Apr 15 2019 09:00 PM
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    Dom showing up the ump. Lucky he didn't get tossed

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 09:00 PM
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    Come on, Lance!

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 09:01 PM
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    I *hate* bringing guys in with the bases loaded, especially when those guys are Mets relievers, who can't throw strikes for shit.


    At my daughter's first Little League game last week, our nine-year-old pitcher-- an athletic kid, but a first-timer on the mound-- was laboring a bit, and racked up two walks.



    His father (something of a "Come ON, Connor" Alpha) was at the fence, and grumbling to the manager a bit. Our manager turns to him, and quietly says, "I don't want the kid to lose heart. Do you want me to take him out?" Alpha Dad says nothing. Manager turns back to the game, and to nobody in particular, says, "Anybody I bring in here is going to walk two guys right after coming in anyway."



    I mean, he gets it.

    HahnSolo
    Apr 15 2019 09:02 PM
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    Avilan? Should I just turn off the set now?

    seawolf17
    Apr 15 2019 09:03 PM
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    =HahnSolo post_id=7306 time=1555383761 user_id=63]
    Avilan? Should I just turn off the set now?


    It's like Mickey's not even trying.

    Centerfield
    Apr 15 2019 09:06 PM
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    Wait so they're all right handed. Why Avilan?

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 09:10 PM
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    I don't fucking know anymore.



    I mean, they've called up Drew Gagnon. They've got Sewald. THEY'VE GOT GODDAMN DIAZ.

    Centerfield
    Apr 15 2019 09:13 PM
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    I mean. They are all right handed. All of them.

    seawolf17
    Apr 15 2019 09:13 PM
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    Because Harper is up if the Phillies load the bases here, and then you've got him lefty-lefty. Savvy, Mickey. Savvy.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 09:15 PM
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    Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 15 2019 09:15 PM

    Relentless change-ups from a soft-tossing lefty to righties with men in scoring position.



    I almost-- ALMOST-- want a hit/loss here, if only so Mickey doesn't learn the wrong lesson here.

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 09:15 PM
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    What a pitch to get out Segura

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 09:18 PM
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    Great change, but Avilan is adjusting his grip before he puts the ball in his glove. I knew the change was coming from the centerfield camera, and I imagine the runner on second did.

    41Forever
    Apr 15 2019 09:18 PM
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    Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

    What a pitch to get out Segura


    I don't know what the heck Segura was swinging at, but I'm glad he was swinging!

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 09:18 PM
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    Now Neshek for an inning or two. Plus, I think they just recalled that Arano kid with the nasty slider from last year.



    Extra-inning game or no last night, the Phillies still have more quality length in the bullpen.

    bmfc1
    Apr 15 2019 09:20 PM
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    Drew Gagnon is next unless they lead which they may never do.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 09:22 PM
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    Just took a Nimmo foul ball in the face-- Barksdale is a tough old ump.



    I mean, he's also kinda terrible at calling balls and strikes. But still... tough.

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 09:22 PM
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    Here we go

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 09:23 PM
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    Oh, FUCK a bunt. With all due respect, Gary and Keith, STFU.

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 09:23 PM
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    Please don't send d'Arnaud up to bunt when deGrom could give it to you.

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 09:24 PM
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    Watch travvy smash into a triple play here

    seawolf17
    Apr 15 2019 09:24 PM
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    Guaranteed DP here since d'Arnaud couldn't get the bunt down.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 09:25 PM
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    [Slow, sarcastic clap]

    bmfc1
    Apr 15 2019 09:25 PM
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    Edgy MD wrote:

    Please don't send d'Arnaud up to bunt when deGrom could give it to you.
    EXACTLY!

    seawolf17
    Apr 15 2019 09:25 PM
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    Or not.



    Time to earn your Metliness, Robbie.

    bmfc1
    Apr 15 2019 09:26 PM
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    Great job there Mickey. You burned the last bench player for NO DAMN REASON. The Mets have 10 coaches and the same crap goes on.

    41Forever
    Apr 15 2019 09:26 PM
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    Awful at-bat by Travis.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 09:27 PM
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    [Even slower, more sarcastic clap]

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 09:27 PM
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    Dammit Cano

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 09:28 PM
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    JOHNNY FUCKING LAGS

    seawolf17
    Apr 15 2019 09:29 PM
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    Lagares! HUSTLE!

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 09:29 PM
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    Yay

    seawolf17
    Apr 15 2019 09:29 PM
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    I like how Hoskins just kind of... fell down on that play.

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 09:30 PM
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    Laggy = Mookie.



    Now that they're clearing Ramos, d'Arnaud may end up staying in the game.

    bmfc1
    Apr 15 2019 09:32 PM
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    That's not an error.

    seawolf17
    Apr 15 2019 09:35 PM
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    Diaz. Wow.

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 09:36 PM
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    =bmfc1 post_id=7336 time=1555385545 user_id=73]
    That's not an error.



    He shouldn't have sat on his ass before the ball got to him.

    But yeah

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Apr 15 2019 09:37 PM
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    Best Diaz outing of the year

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 09:37 PM
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    Awesome. A sit-down/shut-up closing job.



    I mean, hell-- if only we had somebody to pitch like that with the game on the line in the 8th!

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 09:49 PM
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    =LWFS post_id=7340 time=1555385869 user_id=84]
    Awesome. A sit-down/shut-up closing job.



    I mean, hell-- if only we had somebody to pitch like that with the game on the line in the 8th!



    You're totally missing the big picture. Our cagey manager rope-a-doped the opponents into burning their pen in extras for a second straight night.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 09:57 PM
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    "We're not going to have him come in, get one out, and have nobody to pitch the ninth. I mean, we're not going to have him come in, get one out, and sit down, and come out and get three more outs. He's here to get three outs, that's it."



    I may be paraphrasing a little, or else my hearing may be a little off, due to the aneurysm I'm currently experiencing.

    Edgy MD
    Apr 15 2019 10:02 PM
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    You know, if he got the last out in the eighth, and the first two outs in the ninth, I'd be OK with that too.

    LWFS
    Apr 15 2019 10:03 PM
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    Mickey keeps talking about this, and he keeps sounding dumber. Experience has somehow made him dumber.

    nymr83
    Apr 15 2019 11:10 PM
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    "We're not going to have him come in, get one out, and have nobody to pitch the ninth. I mean, we're not going to have him come in, get one out, and sit down, and come out and get three more outs. He's here to get three outs, that's it."



    I may be paraphrasing a little, or else my hearing may be a little off, due to the aneurysm I'm currently experiencing.


    Even if he was incapable of sitting down for 20 minutes and then getting back up - which I doubt - i'd rather he comes in maybe after the Knapp walk, definitely after the McCutchen walk. that is going to be a bigger spot than the 9th.



    maybe there is some argument to be made against over-use in April against the Twins? But not the Phillies.

    batmagadanleadoff
    Apr 16 2019 01:09 AM
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    https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40653592923_b6f1536d44_z.jpg>

    Fman99
    Apr 16 2019 05:20 AM
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    I went to bed when Fammy loaded em up. I can't stay up just to watch that kind of nonsense.

    Lefty Specialist
    Apr 16 2019 06:31 AM
    Re: IGT 4/15: Somebody to Shove, NYM @ PHI

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    I went to bed when Fammy loaded em up. I can't stay up just to watch that kind of nonsense.



    I went to bed when Gsellman walked in the tying run. I wasn't overly crazy about signing Familia again. He has great stuff, but it rarely lands in the strike zone. Teams have learned to take a few pitches, get ahead in the count and then pounce. Familia was incapable of throwing a strike last night and the only outs he got were from a great play on a shot that should have been a base hit.

    Benjamin Grimm
    Apr 16 2019 07:23 AM
    Re: IGT 4/15: Somebody to Shove, NYM @ PHI

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    Cast your vote!

    A Boy Named Seo
    Apr 16 2019 08:43 AM
    Re: IGT 4/15: Somebody to Shove, NYM @ PHI


    "We're not going to have him come in, get one out, and have nobody to pitch the ninth. I mean, we're not going to have him come in, get one out, and sit down, and come out and get three more outs. He's here to get three outs, that's it."



    I may be paraphrasing a little, or else my hearing may be a little off, due to the aneurysm I'm currently experiencing.


    I woke up desperately wanting to hear Mickey speak on this. Where'd you catch it? I didn't see it on SNY.

    nymr83
    Apr 16 2019 08:53 AM
    Re: IGT 4/15: Somebody to Shove, NYM @ PHI

    he doubled-down and tripled-down in the post-game and Brodie then did the same - and the fucking "we will make the playoffs" entitlement, no you wont if you arent willing to make the most efficient use of your bullpen for winning games this year.

    A Boy Named Seo
    Apr 16 2019 10:32 AM
    Re: IGT 4/15: Somebody to Shove, NYM @ PHI

    No surprise, Familia and Gsellman were pitching in the highest leverage innings yesterday. That was game was the 8th. We're lucky to have won the thing at all.



    https://www.fangraphs.com/wins.aspx?date=2019-04-15&team=Mets&dh=0&season=2019

    Edgy MD
    Apr 16 2019 03:44 PM
    Re: IGT 4/15: Somebody to Shove, NYM @ PHI

    So this was the position player lineup at the end of the game last night:



    Ramos, c

    Smith, 1b

    Cano, 2b

    McNeil, 3b

    Rosario, ss

    Nimmo, lf

    Lagares, cf

    Conforto, rf



    The Mets had burned all of their position players. I used to love wars of attrition, because Davy Johnson was great at them, but back then, a game became a war of attrition in the 14th or 15th inning. Now, if a game goes 10 or 11 innings, both managers have their backs to the wall, with all their pinch hitters and most of their bullpen burned.



    Thus it was in the top of the 10th last night. After the Mets had burned Travis d'Arnaud, their last pinch-hitter, they had Smith up at the plate. After taking strike three to end the inning, Smitty angrily spiked his helmet.



    Now, I love just about everything Dom has brought to the table this season, and it makes me want to go out and buy myself a CPAP mask. And I agree that the pitch looked low. But that spike was dumb, and it probably should have been an instant ejection. Lance Barksdale, perhaps seeing instant regret in Smith's eyes, or perhaps not wanting to impetuously throw the game to the Phils by leaving the Mets a man short, spared him.



    My question: If Smith gets tossed there, what defensive alignment do you come out with the next inning? You have four available starting pitchers to put into the game. Jason Vargas is probably the best hitter, and the least precious as an asset. Jacob deGrom is probably the best athlete, and best equipped to acquit himself on defense, but the most precious as an asset. Steven Matz is probably a pretty decent compromise of the two, in the hitting sense, in the fielding sense, in the preciousness sense. An Zach Wheeler probably looks the most like a Major League first-baseman.



    So who do you pick? And once you pick him, where do you put him? Almost always, if you're forced to put pitcher on defense, it's a corner outfield spot for him. But I wonder why nobody ever tries to sneak a pitcher in at first, where he does what he's generally asked to do on defense — field grounders and cover first.



    So do you put your pitcher on one of the corners and move Conforto or Nimmo to first? Do you put him at first himself? Do you go crazy and put him at third, and maybe move McNeilio to second, and Canó to first?



    A whole lot of bad options there. You see what gift Barksdale gave us with his mercy.

    LWFS
    Apr 17 2019 08:59 PM
    Re: IGT 4/15: Somebody to Shove, NYM @ PHI

    A Boy Named Seo wrote:


    "We're not going to have him come in, get one out, and have nobody to pitch the ninth. I mean, we're not going to have him come in, get one out, and sit down, and come out and get three more outs. He's here to get three outs, that's it."



    I may be paraphrasing a little, or else my hearing may be a little off, due to the aneurysm I'm currently experiencing.


    I woke up desperately wanting to hear Mickey speak on this. Where'd you catch it? I didn't see it on SNY.


    It was SNY, during the post game show.