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Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Matz

1 votes

Vargas

2 votes

Wheeler

0 votes

deGrom

0 votes

Syndergaard

2 votes

Diaz

12 votes

Familia

7 votes

Gsellman

1 votes

Lugo

0 votes

J. Wilson

0 votes

Avilan

2 votes

Other bullpen stiffs

6 votes

Alonso

0 votes

Cano

9 votes

McNeil

0 votes

Rosario

0 votes

Lowrie

2 votes

Frazier

0 votes

Guillorme

0 votes

Dom Smith

0 votes

Largares

2 votes

JD Davis

0 votes

dArnaud

0 votes

Broxton

0 votes

Nimmo

0 votes

Conforto

0 votes

Cespedes

3 votes

Ramos

1 votes

Mickey

17 votes

Riggleman

1 votes

Chili Davis

2 votes

Dave Eiland

3 votes

Brodie

16 votes

Fred & Jeff

16 votes

Steve J. Rogers

0 votes

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 17 2019 02:18 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 17 2019 06:21 PM

This is a poll where you can change your vote constantly and by the end of the year we'll know who is to blame

Lefty Specialist Apr 17 2019 02:36 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Tough to pick. I blame Familia but not Diaz. BVW for assembling a team with 4 third basemen and not enough in the bullpen. You can't have a horrible pen, bring most of it back and expect miracles. Blame Cano for leaving his hitting skills in Seattle. I'll adjust as needed.

Ceetar Apr 17 2019 02:44 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I'm going with Chili Davis for the bogus "hit the other way" nonsense that seems to persist even though the Mets perform the best when they're pulling it over the fences.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 17 2019 02:55 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

The stupid poll creation software cuts me off at 15!

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 17 2019 02:55 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I wanted to have each guy be his own choice, plus Steve J. Rogers

Edgy MD Apr 17 2019 02:58 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I can expand the polling. I'm not sure "This All" is a thing yet, but that team ERA is a real thing.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 17 2019 03:00 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I can get by with 30 choices

smg58 Apr 17 2019 05:04 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

A lot of our pitchers have been disappointments, but I'm most concerned about Gsellman and Lugo. That, and two starters failing to get out of the first inning this past week. Brodie for treating Bruce and Swarzak strictly as dumps. We cannot afford to have them collectively outperform Cano and Diaz, and right now that is happening. Bruce is 0.6 WAR better than Cano, even with a sub-.100 BABIP. That does not bode well. And then there is the fact that Lowrie has established, through his absence, that he is not needed, and we don't have enough money to bring in Dallas Keuchel.

whippoorwill Apr 17 2019 05:52 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Always willing to blame the relievers

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 17 2019 06:20 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Bump! Your votes may have disappeared but the poll is much more precise now! Vote now, vote often!

Edgy MD Apr 17 2019 06:28 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Fifty choices is the new max.

kcmets Apr 17 2019 06:50 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Edgy MD wrote: but that team ERA is a real thing. Embarrassing, but it is mid April.

seawolf17 Apr 18 2019 06:30 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

For now? Familia, Cano, Nimmo and then management: Mickey, Fred/Jeff.

dgwphotography Apr 18 2019 07:29 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

This reminds me of 1973. I don't remember if it was the Daily News or the Post that posted a poll in their paper asking who was at fault: M. Donald Grant, Bob Scheffing, or Yogi Berra

whippoorwill Apr 25 2019 08:29 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Maintaining my bullpen vite

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 25 2019 08:44 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I had to give a vote to Zimmo so I had to take one ... from Fred & Jeff! You're not off the hook, you guys

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 29 2019 07:59 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Vote Familia

Edgy MD Apr 29 2019 08:04 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Yeah, Fammy gained my vote in that inning.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2019 08:05 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Although I want to vote for Alonso's hair.

bmfc1 Apr 29 2019 09:13 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

How does BVW have fewer votes than Familia? BVW signed him! BVW should have every vote as well as the ones added by the Russians. F him, his fantastic hair, his designer suits, and his always yapping mouth which told us that he had built the team to beat. Meanwhile, the Rays are in 1st place and their Senior Vice President, Baseball Operations Chaim Bloom was the one who didn't get the Mets job.

nymr83 Apr 29 2019 09:27 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

=bmfc1 post_id=8637 time=1556593980 user_id=73] How does BVW have fewer votes than Familia? BVW signed him! BVW should have every vote as well as the ones added by the Russians. F him, his fantastic hair, his designer suits, and his always yapping mouth which told us that he had built the team to beat. Meanwhile, the Rays are in 1st place and their Senior Vice President, Baseball Operations Chaim Bloom was the one who didn't get the Mets job.

BVW gets credited or blamed for the overall product - or at least the pieces he brought in. 'Chaim Bloom' had so many more headline puns for the tabloids...

Fman99 Apr 30 2019 05:18 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I can't vote for a vengeful God? I assume the Mets are playing like shit because I've spent too much time looking at naked people on the Internet, or because I used the word "retarded" too liberally as a middle school child.

nymr83 Apr 30 2019 06:43 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I can't vote for a vengeful God? I assume the Mets are playing like shit because I've spent too much time looking at naked people on the Internet, or because I used the word "retarded" too liberally as a middle school child. Have you met Yankee fans? if that were the criteria for winning they'd be 0-162

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 30 2019 07:25 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I do think BVW has been terrible so far. He gathered in an injured guy we don't necessarily need in Lowrie; his relief acquisitions other than Diaz have been terrible and/or hurt; Ramos is a fat slow singles-hitting double-play machine whose defense sucks; Cano is an anchor, only played okay and is hurt. Meantime we gave away a bunch of good prospects and the only guys performing for the team are those we had before he got here, others are getting worse.

MFS62 Apr 30 2019 07:28 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I do think BVW has been terrible so far. He gathered in an injured guy we don't necessarily need in Lowrie; his relief acquisitions other than Diaz have been terrible and/or hurt; Ramos is a fat slow singles-hitting double-play machine whose defense sucks; Cano is an anchor, only played okay and is hurt. Meantime we gave away a bunch of good prospects and the only guys performing for the team are those we had before he got here, others are getting worse. A brief, but accurate, assessment. Later

dgwphotography Apr 30 2019 07:28 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I can't vote for a vengeful God? I assume the Mets are playing like shit because I've spent too much time looking at naked people on the Internet, or because I used the word "retarded" too liberally as a middle school child. Actually, the vengeful God theory would apply more to the actions of Fred, Jeffy and Saul...

Centerfield Apr 30 2019 07:46 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I'm blaming: 1. Wilpons. It's always the Wilpons. An extra $30 million spent wisely and we'd be comfortably in first place. 2. BVW. I don't know that he's been as bad as JCL says, but he's not been great. I hated the Cano trade. Gave up way too much. The Lowrie decision was a head scratcher, considering we didn't need any infielders and we needed pitching badly. Justin Wilson isn't good. It's a bad sign when fans of your old team celebrate you signing with a different one. I liked the Ramos deal at the time and I think he'll get better. I'm most disappointed by Familia. Dude can't throw a strike anymore. WTF. But I think part of his problem is... 3. The baseballs. I hate how MLB insults our intelligence and thinks they can just do whatever the fuck they want. Manfred is a Selig pawn. So clear now. 4. Our starting pitching. Our big three have to be better. They've been comically bad. 5. Familia. Dude, figure out a way to throw a strike.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 30 2019 07:55 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

=Centerfield post_id=8656 time=1556632001 user_id=65] I'm blaming: 1. Wilpons. It's always the Wilpons. An extra $30 million spent wisely and we'd be comfortably in first place.

Winner, winner! Chicken dinner! Close down this thread, mods, because, what's the point of continuing? This game is over.



Eff and Jeff. Oh my.

MFS62 Apr 30 2019 07:58 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

What do Laurel and Hardy, and Wilson Ramos, have in common? A piano. The comedy duo famous for trying to carry one, and Ramos for running like he already is. Later

seawolf17 Apr 30 2019 08:04 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Well, hey, at least Kelenic and Dunn are-- Kelenic: .329/.427/.573, 13-game-hitting streak Dunn: 27 Ks and a 3.44 ERA in 18 innings in four starts --well, I know it's early, but...

Chad ochoseis Apr 30 2019 08:22 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I'll go with Ramos. I don't know jack about the subtleties of catching, but the odds of DeGrom, Syndergaard, Wheeler, and Familia all crapping out at once randomly are slim, and the catcher is the one common thread. And he's been killing us with his bat. And he's slow even by catcher's standards.

Ceetar Apr 30 2019 08:58 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

=Fman99 post_id=8641 time=1556623087 user_id=86] I can't vote for a vengeful God? I assume the Mets are playing like shit because I've spent too much time looking at naked people on the Internet\

They're at .500, not -.369.

G-Fafif Apr 30 2019 09:02 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Chad ochoseis wrote: I'll go with Ramos. I don't know jack about the subtleties of catching, but the odds of DeGrom, Syndergaard, Wheeler, and Familia all crapping out at once randomly are slim, and the catcher is the one common thread. And he's been killing us with his bat. And he's slow even by catcher's standards. This thought has been festering in me since Opening Day, when something seemed a little off about deGrom. Jake's next start, caught by Nido, was as good as any he's ever had. Then he was saddled with d'Arnaud before going back to Ramos and nothing's been right since. We already know Noah needs to be handled with care, and I don't know that Ramos is the guy for him, either. The guy's been around, so this is probably projecting, but I sort of wish every starter could have his own personal catcher of choice. The torpidity of Ramos on the basepaths is amazing. He'll get his base hits when he's locked in, but every ground ball feels like a double play, even with nobody on in front of him.

seawolf17 Apr 30 2019 10:05 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

=G-Fafif post_id=8667 time=1556636564 user_id=55]The torpidity of Ramos on the basepaths is amazing. He'll get his base hits when he's locked in, but every ground ball feels like a double play, even with nobody on in front of him.

I haven't watched much the last two weeks, but I remember a slow roller to short a few weeks back that the shortstop bobbled, recovered, and still threw him out by like ten feet. I was stunned.

Edgy MD Apr 30 2019 10:41 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

The Torpidity of Wilson Ramos is still my favorite magic realist novel.

seawolf17 Apr 30 2019 10:47 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Edgy MD wrote: The Torpidity of Wilson Ramos is still my favorite magic realist novel. [attachment=0]wilsonramos.png[/attachment]

Edgy MD Apr 30 2019 11:00 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Wow! Probably Hernán Crúz Hernán's greatest work. How that guy hasn't won a Nobel Prize for Literature yet is beyond me.

G-Fafif Apr 30 2019 11:26 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

That's some slow reading right there.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 30 2019 12:41 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Netflix series based on this novel coming. 36 2-hour episodes per season

G-Fafif Apr 30 2019 01:00 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Netflix series based on this novel coming. 36 2-hour episodes per season They keep recommending it to me just because I watched that Omir Santos documentary, "A Short, Compact Swing".

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 30 2019 01:29 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Better reviews than Roberto Alomar: Mets All Around Performer

Edgy MD Apr 30 2019 02:01 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Netflix series based on this novel coming. 36 2-hour episodes per season They keep recommending it to me just because I watched that Omir Santos documentary, "A Short, Compact Swing". https://metsrostercentral.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/my-post1.png?w=500>

G-Fafif Apr 30 2019 02:59 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

These catchers may only produce in spurts, but boy are their stories marketed well.

Frayed Knot Apr 30 2019 04:48 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

This thread is acting as if only since the season started did we discover that Wilson Ramos is slow.

Edgy MD Apr 30 2019 05:10 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Yeah, you stupid thread!

nymr83 May 02 2019 05:00 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Just removed my Syndergaard vote after todays gem and bomb. Current culprits: Diaz Familia Mickey Cano Rosario

Centerfield May 03 2019 08:55 AM

That documentary made me realize how much I missed Razor Shines. As much as the Mets have struggled, the CPF brand continues to churn out great work. The Wilson Ramos novel. The Omir Santos documentary. The guided tours of the refurbished HQ in Stockholm. Maja's reality show. Bartolo's cologne.

Johnny Lunchbucket May 03 2019 09:18 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Right now I got Brodie Mickey Familia Ramos Nimmo

dgwphotography May 10 2019 08:24 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

A Rogues Gallery: (After past threads here, I just assume Jeffy is photoshopped into every picture I see him in) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtiwcJDWoAMFiKF.jpg>

smg58 May 10 2019 09:24 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I'm worried that Chili Davis' hitting philosophy really is as much of a problem as the Red Sox and Cubs made it out to be. Will Ramos has an ISO of .055. Frazier's is .122, and Nimmo's is .136. And we supposedly have a live ball. Maybe they aren't healthy, but they're getting nothing on their swings, and it's not the first time it's happened under Davis' watch.

Ceetar May 10 2019 09:38 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I'm worried that Chili Davis' hitting philosophy really is as much of a problem as the Red Sox and Cubs made it out to be. Will Ramos has an ISO of .055. Frazier's is .122, and Nimmo's is .136. And we supposedly have a live ball. Maybe they aren't healthy, but they're getting nothing on their swings, and it's not the first time it's happened under Davis' watch. I know nothing, it's major league hitting, it's still small sample stuff, etc. But i'm not digging what I hear from Davis. Ramos started strong, hopefully it's just a blip of sorts. Frazier I worry was rushed through rehab a little, I'm hoping he'll at least round out, though he's the most expendable and also his track record isn't as long. Not sure what's up with Nimmo. maybe it's the approach. He's got the same walk rate, he's just not getting as many hits. His BABIP doesn't look abnormally low, though it is below his norm, though his norm isn't exactly a huge sample either. I thought he was preaching some "other way" approach stuff, but the Mets oppo hits aren't actually that out of line with past seasons. They're hitting it straight up teh middle a lot more, but also harder than at any other time in the past 5 years. But on the ground more. That's BS. at a time the ball is extraordinarily juiced, they gotta elevate the damn thing.

Edgy MD May 10 2019 10:04 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Chili made my list this morning.

bmfc1 May 10 2019 10:27 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 10 2019 11:42 AM

I'm not an expert but Nimmo appears to be taking pitches down the middle and yet Mickey, undoubtedly quoting Chili, wants him to "expand the strike zone." How about swinging at pitching IN the strike zone? Conforto is susceptible to getting tied up inside and I don't remember that happening last season. I think (don't know) that he's being told to extend his arms so he can go the other way (he has "oppo power", as we know) but is failing to "look inside", too. I wonder if he's standing closer to the plate. Bryant and Rizzo wanted Davis fired and I haven't read anything to indicate that they are bad guys.

Johnny Lunchbucket May 10 2019 10:53 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

This is the thing with the Mets isn't it? They are always trying to solve last year's problems this year. Rather they don't solve things but just a make a show of moving on from whatever they could blame last year's problems on. We tried hitting home runs last year and it didn't work! So let's hire the hitting coach least associated with home runs!

Edgy MD May 19 2019 01:12 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Hard not to focus on Canó here. His increasing disengagement is disgraceful.

Edgy MD May 26 2019 07:28 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Yay! A 5-1 homestand! Boo! Five of the wins were by one-run! The opposition took the early lead, like, every game! The big hits all came from three outfielders who weren't with the team a week ago! And an infielder who wasn't with the team a month ago! They weren't even supposed to be playing! But other guy got hurt!! The opponents may not have even had up-to-date scouting on them!!! THIS ISN'T SUSTAINABLE!! I mean, sure, so what? The wins still count. The team is at .500 and there are a lot worse places to be at the end of May (although, not for the Twins). But a lot of adjustments and rehabilitating still need to happen going forward. And it's a long ride out to LA without an off day, the Dodgers's playing .660 ball this year, and deGrom opening the series locked up with Kershaw in the evening shadows. This will be a heck of a test.

Johnny Lunchbucket May 27 2019 05:15 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I gave a vote to Syndergaard

G-Fafif Jun 19 2019 09:07 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

DiSarcina could use a slot.

smg58 Jun 20 2019 07:06 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

My current votes are Rosario, and as many relievers as they would allow me to select.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 20 2019 07:23 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Diaz needs more hate

Centerfield Jun 20 2019 08:12 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

All kidding aside, here is who I think is to blame. In descending order, from most to blame, to least to blame. 1. Fred and Jeff Wilpon. Without a doubt. If I had to guess, I'd pin 75-80% of the blame on them right out of the gate. As Greg pointed out in the other thread, this culture of failure has spanned multiple GMs, Managers, scouts, players. The incompetence starts at the top and permeates throughout the organization. If they did nothing else but just set the payroll at that of a mid-market team, they'd have already badly crippled the team. But their meddling makes it even worse. A mid-market team with smart owners would have hired Chaim Bloom, and would leave the management to the baseball people. Instead, Jeff runs everything and hired an agent for cover. The pages from Pedro's book are making their rounds through twitter recently. This is the episode in 2005 when Jeff Wilpon came in, overruled the medical staff and forced Pedro to pitch hurt in a meaningless game. This goes a long way in explaining the Mets "bad luck" with injuries. Familia, Nimmo, even Cano. You can't lose this much by accident. 2. Brodie. He is the GM after all, but just how much control he has I have no idea. I don't know whether to give him 10% or 1% since I don't really know how much of this is him. If I had to guess, I'd say he had a fairly big hand in the Cano Disaster trade. For his part, I'm glad that he talked big. It makes what the Wilpons did that much more egregious. I don't know if there is a way out from the Wilpon mess, but guys like Brodie help illustrate their incompetence. He also did a shit job in getting an effective LH reliever. But again, Sandy couldn't do it either, so I don't know if that's Brodie or Wilpon. 3. Manfred/Owners. Their stupid baseball. Baseball is the only sport where the ball itself changes from year to year. You talk about all this stupid shit aimed at speeding up the game, then you introduce a stupid baseball that makes pitching impossible. I know it's bad luck that our pitchers seem to be affected by it more than others, but it's stupid that we even have to deal with this. 4. Callaway. Nobody can win under these conditions, but if you put Callaway in charge of the Dodgers he'd figure out a way to fuck it up. He said that DiSarcina made a good send and that it took a perfect throw to get Davis. If that's a perfect throw, then I'm a GG outfielder. 5. Eiland. This is a guess. So many guys are struggling more than you'd expect. Maybe we need Warthen back. I don't blame the players. They're all trying their best. Some are putting up amazing numbers, and even some of the guys I don't like are making valiant efforts. Vargas, Frazier, I didn't like these moves at all and I don't think they're worth the money. But man are they battling, and I give them a ton of respect for that.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2019 08:14 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

=Centerfield post_id=13640 time=1561039956 user_id=65]I don't blame the players. They're all trying their best.

cough!(Canó)cough!

Centerfield Jun 20 2019 08:31 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I get that. But I also saw him out there trying to play through a bad hamstring having been rushed back too early. Cano is a tough call. Much like Cespedes before him, it's easy to see him half-speed it and assume it's lack of effort. But I think there's a mental aspect of it that we may not understand. Both Cano and Cespedes are "make it look easy" guys. They play with a natural grace and ease in the field. They also play with a healthy amount of arrogance, which, if I had to guess, is a big part of their success. Maybe that arrogance, which helps them succeed, plays a factor in them not running out these balls. Maybe it's self-preservation. After all, Cano did bust it, and hurt himself. What I do know is that both Cano and Cespedes went out there hobbled for the good of the team, so that means something. I totally get if someone wants to get on him for lack of effort. I don't expect anyone else to give him the benefit of the doubt.

41Forever Jun 20 2019 11:41 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I give Brodie some slack -- for now. I think he did sign a good lefty reliever in Justin Wilson, and it sucks he got hurt. The depth options there didn't work out so far. But I also think about 28 of 30 teams would say they are always in need of solid left-handed bullpen help. I think he did a good job creating depth at other positions. Rajai Davis, Carlos Gomez, Adeiny Hechavarría have all been solid when needed, at least when you compare them to what we were trotting out there last year. I didn't like the Cano deal, but we can disagree on whether its too early to call it a disaster. The Broxton deal was bad, but at least he moved on quickly. It's sucks that Jed Lowerie got hurt before even a spring game and it sucks that Cespedes likes to play cowboy and got hurt doing it. It sucks that Familia was hurt, but it explains a lot. It sucks that Nimmo is hurt. But I can't blame Brodie for that. He's an outside the box pick and I think I have to give him more than four months.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 20 2019 11:55 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Good Brodie: I like JD Davis. He made a good decision with Alonso. Ramos hasn't been awful. Bad: Everything else

batmagadanleadoff Jun 20 2019 12:11 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Who cares about Brodie? It wouldn't matter if BVW was Albert Einstein and Branch Rickey all rolled into one with eff and Jeff sticking their greedy paws into everything. 28 out of 30 teams have bullpen problems? So why aren't 28 out of 30 teams under .500? I suppose 28 out of 30 teams play in the biggest market in the world, too. Two first place finishes in 31 seasons.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 20 2019 12:12 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=13660 time=1561054265 user_id=68] Who cares about Brodie? It wouldn't matter if BVW was Albert Einstein and Branch Rickey all rolled into one with eff and Jeff sticking their greedy paws into everything. 28 out of 30 teams have bullpen problems? So why aren't 28 out of 30 teams under .500? I suppose 28 out of 30 teams play in the biggest market in the world, too. Two first place finishes in 31 seasons.

And counting. And I don't mean the part about first place finishes.

G-Fafif Jun 20 2019 01:15 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Jeff Wilpon marked "Dave Eiland" and wrote in "Chuck Hernandez".

whippoorwill Jul 06 2019 07:38 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

I just noticed I only voted for other bullpen stiffs and that's still my vote

Fman99 Jul 06 2019 10:50 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Went with the Wilpons, Mickey, Diaz, Cano and Cespedes. I agree with CF, though, this Wilpon stink rolls down the hill and sticks to everyone else.

kcmets Jul 06 2019 11:38 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Diaz with only 3 votes has to be a fake count manipulated by Russian bots?

nymr83 Aug 11 2019 07:09 PM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

=kcmets post_id=15214 time=1562434699 user_id=53] Diaz with only 3 votes has to be a fake count manipulated by Russian bots?

I came back to find this thread today just to make sure Diaz had my vote and Brodie too.



BVW's big trade of the offseason was a big bust and is the #1 things keeping this team out of the playoffs right now.



Diaz is terrible

Vic Sage Aug 12 2019 11:36 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

BVW, the Pons, Mickey, Cano and Diaz.

Johnny Lunchbucket Sep 04 2019 09:27 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Bump. Also adding write ins: --JCL Taking a long vacation --Ben Grimm's wild night of sex

Centerfield Sep 04 2019 09:56 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

We would have to know when he had sex to accurately gauge. I have this feeling it's my fault. Our vacation ruined them. On Friday, August 23, Jacob deGrom hit a HR to tie the score against the Braves. Then we got into our car and drove to Baltimore. Listened to the game while driving down and was miserable when they lost it. That was the first of 6 losses. They haven't been the same since. I remember thinking to myself as the losses piled up: "This is the anti-Peru."

Gwreck Sep 04 2019 10:14 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

We're no different than where we were at the start of the season: 1. Fred and Jeff, for being cheap. 2. Brodie, for making a stupid trade for Cano and Diaz. Yes, we didn't know Diaz would be this awful. But we all knew it was a stupid trade at the time at least as far as Cano went. In conjunction with #1, instead of giving up useful prospects, we could have just spent money like a major market team and signed Manny Machado. 3. Mickey's made a lot of stupid moves. 4. Familia. This was a good signing, and he turned out to be awful. This one isn't Brodie's fault. 5. Diaz. Wasn't his fault the Brodie overpaid. But he also inexplicably became awful.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 04 2019 10:27 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

My losing streak and the Mets' losing streak ended virtually simultaneously.

seawolf17 Sep 04 2019 10:52 AM Re: Whose Fault This All Is: 2019

Player-wise, this is on Cano and Diaz more than anyone else. And by a lot. And of course everyone at any and every level of management, from the clubhouse crew all the way up through the Wilpons.