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This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 04 2019 08:13 AM

Bumgarner v Syndergaard as the Tuesday Night Mets Club takes it in from Section 409.



Fun Fact: Mets are 9-2 on Tuesdays this year and have won 6 Tuesdays in a row.



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Lefty Specialist
Jun 04 2019 12:55 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

The Mets have played simply awful baseball lately, and yet they're only 4 1/2 games out of first. The slightest glimmer of competence and they could be contending. So I expect they'll tank it against the Giants and Rockies, because that's how they roll.

G-Fafif
Jun 04 2019 01:17 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

McNeil 2B

Alonso 1B

Conforto RF

Davis LF

Ramos C

Frazier 3B

Rosario SS

Gomez CF

Syndergaard P



McNeil activated; Bashlor sent down.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 04 2019 01:28 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

For my next thread: Why is J.D. Davis batting cleanup?

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 04 2019 01:29 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

I thought it was gonna be Cano coming back and McNeil still on the way, not that I'm complaining

Edgy MD
Jun 04 2019 01:36 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

McNelt isn't the only one being activated.


[TWEET]https://twitter.com/SNYtv/status/1135577892501512192[/TWEET]

Frayed Knot
Jun 04 2019 02:21 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=11977 time=1559676483 user_id=68]
For my next thread: Why is J.D. Davis batting cleanup?



Three words: Ell. Aitch. Pee.

Vic Sage
Jun 04 2019 02:52 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

hopefully McNeil picks up where he left off.

Frayed Knot
Jun 04 2019 06:30 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 04 2019 07:01 PM

Our contact with runners on are going at 'em while their hits with runners on are going 'tween 'em.

41Forever
Jun 04 2019 06:31 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

We are apparently very hard on home place umpires.

41Forever
Jun 04 2019 07:00 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

ALONSO-KABOOM!!! A deep one, too!

Frayed Knot
Jun 04 2019 07:02 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Frayed Knot wrote:

Our contact with runners on are going at 'em while their hits with runners on are going 'tween 'em.


Except for that one which went over 'em (no runners on naturally).

41Forever
Jun 04 2019 07:03 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

He's six behind Darryl's rookie record!

LWFS
Jun 04 2019 07:07 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Buffalo buffalo buffaloed Bumgarner

41Forever
Jun 04 2019 07:08 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Ramos-KABOOM -- and with a man on! Mets go up on MadBum.

Frayed Knot
Jun 04 2019 07:22 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Not quite sure why a pitching change needed to be made NOW!!!!



Did anyone see when Nats mgr Davey Martinez came out to (presumably) remove Scherzer in the middle of an inning and Scherzer started screaming NO!!!! as soon as he stepped out of the dugout?

Impossible to know whether Martinez intended to remove him or not, but Scherzer wound up staying in the game.

kcmets
Jun 04 2019 07:25 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

I think I read Noah's lips saying to Alonso, "this mother fucker Mickey has to go"

41Forever
Jun 04 2019 07:27 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

And, the bullpen allows the tying run to score.

Edgy MD
Jun 04 2019 07:28 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Nobody can resist the regression. Starting pitching becomes less of a thing every year. Certainly Mickey can't resist it. It's heartbreaking to me.



Meanwhile, did it look like San Francisco was going to challenge that call as we went to the commercial?

Edgy MD
Jun 04 2019 07:30 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

It helps that the baserunner missed the plate by two feet.

Frayed Knot
Jun 04 2019 07:33 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

btw, Not that it was a slam dunk, but I thought Alonso had time to go for the 3-3-6 DP rather than opt for the safer force.

Fman99
Jun 04 2019 07:54 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Lousy swing/AB there by Frazier.

G-Fafif
Jun 04 2019 08:06 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19


I think I read Noah's lips saying to Alonso, "this mother fucker Mickey has to go"




Also something about trouble with the fusillade, Frederick.

bmfc1
Jun 04 2019 08:21 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Mickey and Gsellman should be anywhere else by 7:10 tomorrow.

Frayed Knot
Jun 04 2019 08:22 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

And so it goes ...

41Forever
Jun 04 2019 08:22 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Freaking Gsellman.

Frayed Knot
Jun 04 2019 08:25 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Come-backers turn into doubles.

41Forever
Jun 04 2019 08:25 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

That was awful.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 04 2019 08:28 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Not hitting pitching or fielding well. Or managing.

Frayed Knot
Jun 04 2019 08:29 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 04 2019 08:31 PM

Do these fuckers EVER hit a ball AT anyone?!?!!?



RiSP: SFG = 6/13; NYM = 0/5

kcmets
Jun 04 2019 08:31 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Holy crap, what the fuck happened??

Edgy MD
Jun 04 2019 08:40 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

The key to getting more out of your bullpen: Stop asking for so much out of your bullpen.



Rinse. Repeat.

Frayed Knot
Jun 04 2019 08:43 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

But as Ralph used to point out when Sammy Sosa broke one of his HRs/month records*: 'Yeah but he did it with a 162-game schedule'.







* As per Gary talking about Josh Bell breaking Ralph's Pitt record for TBs in a month

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 04 2019 08:44 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

=kcmets post_id=12036 time=1559701880 user_id=53]
Holy crap, what the fuck happened??



What were your expecting when JD Davis is your fucking clean up hitter and there are at least two guys in the lineup who are even worse hitters than Amed Rosario? This is about as good as it was gonna get: A Met loss but an Alonso homer.

Edgy MD
Jun 04 2019 08:46 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Ramos, don't go chasing with two out in the tenth down by six.



Where do they get this shit?

kcmets
Jun 04 2019 08:53 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=12042 time=1559702668 user_id=68]What were your expecting when JD Davis is your fucking clean up hitter and there are at least two guys in the lineup who are even worse hitters than Amed Rosario? This is about as good as it was gonna get: A Met loss but an Alonso homer.


I meant, it was 3-3 and I missed how it got to 8-3 or whatever when I got back.

Sorry.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 04 2019 09:04 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

=kcmets post_id=12045 time=1559703198 user_id=53]
=batmagadanleadoff post_id=12042 time=1559702668 user_id=68]What were your expecting when JD Davis is your fucking clean up hitter and there are at least two guys in the lineup who are even worse hitters than Amed Rosario? This is about as good as it was gonna get: A Met loss but an Alonso homer.


I meant, it was 3-3 and I missed how it got to 8-3 or whatever when I got back.

Sorry.


I knew what you meant.

kcmets
Jun 04 2019 09:13 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

Here's an SNY post-game blurb:



METS BULLPEN

LAST 8 GAMES:

0-4, 12.39 ERA

IN 20.1 IP

Fman99
Jun 05 2019 02:46 AM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

I went to bed at the end of the 9th. I'm that smart.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 05 2019 06:08 AM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

I turned it off when Mickey came out and Syndergaard said, "Are you fucking kidding me?" Because there's nothing smarter than giving this bullpen EXTRA outs to get.



Mickey's got to go. I don't care if he's replaced by Riggleman or Dusty Baker or the ghost of Salty Parker or a toaster. He's gotta go. I imagine Noah would like to pull his scraggly beard out hair by hair right about now.

smg58
Jun 05 2019 06:36 AM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

You just knew that was going to blow up in Callaway's face. It's not that Lugo is theoretically a worse bet to get the third out, or that his failure to do so isn't mostly on him. But the bullpen is performing at a level where you don't bring them in when you don't need to, and there was clearly no need.



Gsellman's performance was, unfortunately, predictable. We know from last year that he should be fine if you put him on a 70-inning pace but will cave in if you put him on a 100-inning pace. And he has 35 innings under his belt the first week of June. Mickey needed to learn from last year, but didn't.

Edgy MD
Jun 05 2019 06:58 AM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

There's a finite number of players on the roster. When you place such a high value on limiting your use of top pitchers, you end up over-using second tier pitchers. It's a recipe for self-sabotage.

MFS62
Jun 05 2019 07:05 AM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

=smg58 post_id=12055 time=1559738160 user_id=62]
Mickey needed to learn from last year, but didn't.



Add that to the list of things he should have learned about the use of the bullpen, but didn't.

Later

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 05 2019 07:21 AM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

The Syndergaard change made no sense to us sitting in the stands either, didn't realize there was a controversy about it but if there is he's gotta go. This is twice in a week he's screwed over starters against their wishes while doing something strategically unsound.



Beyond that the team just doesn't look good. Defensively weak, very poor execution (2 on non out in the first and second innings and zip). Tightness up the wazoo, probably because there's a palpable sense that the end of Callaway and the Mets season, is near.



Jay Bruce btw had like 16 RBIs last night for the Phils

ashie62
Jun 05 2019 11:47 AM
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Syndergaard was defending Mickey a short time ago.



Hoping Noah get to meet a new Mets manager soon

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 05 2019 11:48 AM
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http://potg.ultimatemets.com/images/schaefer51.jpg>



Cast your vote!

Edgy MD
Jun 05 2019 05:35 PM
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Keef and Gary in the booth talking about Callaway apologizing for his hook.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 05 2019 06:25 PM
Re: This Means War! Giant IGT 6/4/19

He shan't recover