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IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

41Forever Jun 11 2019 10:14 PM

Hopefully keeping the streak going as the Mets head to St. Louis with Jacob deGrom (3-6, 3.45) against Jack Flaherty (4-3, 4.08) Keeping with the Archies theme, we're going for an update of the song. Mary Lou Lord and Semisonic covered the song on "Saturday Morning: Cartoons' Greatest Hits" a 1995 release that has mostly alt-rock bands stomping on our memories an turning in crappy covers. There are a few exceptions. Lord knew a great song can be modernized without being destroyed and added mostly some fuzz guitars. I like it! The other standout is our Ramones covering the Spider-Man theme, which became a staple of their concerts. I kind of liked the Toadies version of "Goolie Get Together," despite very little memories of the Groovy Goolies. [YOUTUBE]aLfkOh-yCT0[/YOUTUBE]

seawolf17 Jun 12 2019 06:58 AM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Keeping with the Archies theme, we're going for an update of the song. Mary Lou Lord and Semisonic covered the song on "Saturday Morning: Cartoons' Greatest Hits" a 1995 release that has mostly alt-rock bands stomping on our memories an turning in crappy covers. There are a few exceptions. Lord knew a great song can be modernized without being destroyed and added mostly some fuzz guitars. I like it! I *love* that record. Collective Soul, Frente!, the Violent Femmes, Liz Phair, Helmet, the Butthole Surfers, Juliana Hatfield and Tonya Donelly, Sponge... that record *was* college.

Edgy MD Jun 12 2019 07:19 AM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

I do, also. But I was hoping for a deeper dive into the original Archies catalog. Archie trading riffs with Reggie? Betty harmonizing with Veronica? That sort of tense frenemy friction makes for great music. It's like a high school Fleetwood Mac with feuding couples letting the blood out on stage — somehow with melody and nuance — both bands anchored by a weird and wiry drummer holding it all together.

Vic Sage Jun 12 2019 08:13 AM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

My faves: "open your heart and let the sun shine in" by Frente! also, "the bugaloos" theme by Collective Soul. And i can listen to the "Josie and the Pussycats" theme all day long.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 12 2019 09:26 AM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Underdog and Spiderman = best underlying material and those came out pretty good. Scooby Doo sounded like a Matthew Sweet song before Matthew Sweet did it. I loved the idea of this more than the record itself, to me it came off too self-consciously "alternative" -- like they had to fuzz up and over-louden everything or be exposed for their lack of alternativism.

41Forever Jun 12 2019 10:12 AM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

I was disappointed I didn't like more of the songs, but those aren't my favorite bands and not my favorite styles. Had it come out in the 1980s and had lots of new wave synth bands, I probably would have been singing the praises more. I do like "Sugar Sugar," the Ramones and the Goolies, but those were either more straight forward or bands I already liked. Listened in the car today, and you're right about Josie. That's a keeper I had forgotten about. The Banana Splits cover, too! A disc of "School House Rock" covers came out around the same time, and I liked that one a little better.

seawolf17 Jun 12 2019 11:43 AM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

A disc of "School House Rock" covers came out around the same time, and I liked that one a little better. The Mr. T Experience "Adjective" and Blind Melon "Three Is A Magic Number" covers are the definitive versions of those songs, I think.

Ceetar Jun 12 2019 12:18 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Breaking news. I appear to be going to this game? Well, that is, if I don't get arrested for bringing a 17,000 pocket 'diaper bag' into the park.

ashie62 Jun 13 2019 05:34 AM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Love the Tommy Roe version. Like to listen to it and his version of Dizzy back to back https://www.whosampled.com/The-Archies/Sugar,-Sugar/covered/

41Forever Jun 13 2019 06:05 AM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Love the Tommy Roe version. Like to listen to it and his version of Dizzy back to back https://www.whosampled.com/The-Archies/Sugar,-Sugar/covered/ That's an amazing site I never knew about!!!

kcmets Jun 13 2019 09:11 AM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Haven't really been paying much attention to the other divisional standings as much as I normally do... didn't realize the Cards were as mediocre as us. STL (33‑33) Jack Flaherty (RHP, 4-3, 4.08) NYM (33‑34) Jacob deGrom (RHP, 3-6, 3.45)

ashie62 Jun 13 2019 09:48 AM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Me neither. Flaherty is in his second year and for real. Other than that, mediocrity abounds Weather clearing

ashie62 Jun 13 2019 10:04 AM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Flaherty has a 6 era on the road

kcmets Jun 13 2019 01:12 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 13 2019 01:14 PM

avi wuz here

G-Fafif Jun 13 2019 01:12 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

McNeil 2B Conforto RF Alonso 1B D. Smith LF Frazier 3B Ramos C Rosario SS Gomez CF deGrom RHP

Frayed Knot Jun 13 2019 01:28 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

=kcmets post_id=12827 time=1560438696 user_id=53] Haven't really been paying much attention to the other divisional standings as much as I normally do... didn't realize the Cards were as mediocre as us.

A 9-18 month of May will do that to ya, a stretch which totally wiped out the hot start they got off to [19-10 in Mar/Apr]

Are 5-5 thus far in June. They've also dealt with a bunch of shit weather at home lately; seems like they were being postponed or at least delayed every other day for a while there.

Ceetar Jun 13 2019 01:28 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

I just realized the last time I went to a game that'll likely be this empty was when the Giants no-hit the Mets in June 2015. With the young 'uns I've really only been hitting the 'big' games. OD, playoffs, Father's day. Crowded.

kcmets Jun 13 2019 01:40 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

I didn't look, but I imagine the Cardinals are among the NL leaders in road attendance... predicted official crowd: 32,694...

Ceetar Jun 13 2019 02:07 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

=kcmets post_id=12865 time=1560454821 user_id=53] I didn't look, but I imagine the Cardinals are among the NL leaders in road attendance... predicted official crowd: 32,694...

Not a chance. Random rainy Thursday night? no way. And even if it's slightly higher, a lot won't show.

Ceetar Jun 13 2019 02:10 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

the 3 night games against the Cardinals in 2017 in July were right around 30.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 13 2019 02:31 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Cards are scoring at the same pace we are and pitching better on a RS/RA basis. Paul Goldschmidt, who sounds like a 19th century St. Louis beer baron, is having an only ok year, Goldschmidt-wise. Guys like Paul deJong (who slaughtered us last year), Kolten Wong and Harrison Bader are their real performers offensively. Thanks for listening to this WKTE newsflash

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 13 2019 06:01 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Confortoboom

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 06:07 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Conforto now on a 31-homerun pace — 26th best in Mets history and accelerating — and he's doing it completely under the radar.

Frayed Knot Jun 13 2019 06:15 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Alonso does that 3-6 move very well - whether it's as the start of an attempted GiDP or just a simple force play. But he makes good, and quick, decisions on those, and seems to make a strong accurate throw each time.

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 06:17 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Quick decisions matter. Meanwhile, the Mets have hit two in a row to the fence for outs. They're about five feet short of back-to-back-to-back.

41Forever Jun 13 2019 06:24 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Edgy MD wrote: Conforto now on a 31-homerun pace — 26th best in Mets history and accelerating — and he's doing it completely under the radar. That's true! He gets overshadowed by Alonso, but he's having a good season!

MFS62 Jun 13 2019 06:30 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Frayed Knot wrote: Alonso does that 3-6 move very well - whether it's as the start of an attempted GiDP or just a simple force play. But he makes good, and quick, decisions on those, and seems to make a strong accurate throw each time. Joe and Evan (WFAN) were talking about him the other day when they were trying to figure out a way to get both Pete and Dom in the lineup and they noted he said he had played third base in high school and as a freshman in college. The strong throwing arm comes as no surprise. Later

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 06:30 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Did Go-Go do that smelly-bat thing the first time around with the Mets?

41Forever Jun 13 2019 06:42 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Boo. Cardinals tie it up. Let's get that back for Jake.

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 06:44 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Let's get last year's ball back also, while we're at it.

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 06:54 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

It can be cool to have a lineup with two firstbasemen.

41Forever Jun 13 2019 06:55 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Pete and Dom put Jake back on top!

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 07:04 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Ramos gets the knockout punch with a walk. https://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2016/04/bald-bull-easter-egg.gif>

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 07:05 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

OK, a 4-2 lead. Just squeeze as much as you can from deGrom before going to the pen.

41Forever Jun 13 2019 07:29 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

I feel better with Logo in the eighth inning than Familia.

41Forever Jun 13 2019 07:35 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

That rain doesn't look good.

Fman99 Jun 13 2019 07:36 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Nice work there by Loogs to get Goldschmidt.

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 07:39 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

It's lookin' wet. Nice job by Conforto bluffing bunt and forcing the defense to adjust.

kcmets Jun 13 2019 07:48 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Put the tarp on, no wait take if off...

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 07:58 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Stop digging holes, Díaz.

seawolf17 Jun 13 2019 07:59 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

That delay definitely messed with Diaz a bit, but he seems to have found his groove.

Fman99 Jun 13 2019 07:59 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

The two most hated acronyms on this entire site, MFYs, and YFM. Ironically.

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 07:59 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Good play in the marshlands, Fray.

Fman99 Jun 13 2019 07:59 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Yeah, sit down, ya shitass.

kcmets Jun 13 2019 08:00 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 13 2019 08:03 PM

Hard to harp on Edwin [CROSSOUT]sitting[/CROSSOUT] waiting around for a stupid ten minutes. *edited

seawolf17 Jun 13 2019 08:01 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Okay, now I don't like the direction this is going again.

Fman99 Jun 13 2019 08:01 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

C'mon, Diaz, FFS. Get the last guy.

seawolf17 Jun 13 2019 08:02 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Fuckin' rain delay.

41Forever Jun 13 2019 08:03 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Dammit. Dammit. deGrom screwed AGAIN.

bmfc1 Jun 13 2019 08:04 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Diaz, Cano, Lowrie--great job, Brodie Van Ego. BTW, how is Chaim Bloom's team doing?

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 08:04 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Craziness. Ordóñez would've had him at the plate.

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 08:07 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

And Go-Go's thro-thro was almost as bad a relay as Gilkey's.

dgwphotography Jun 13 2019 08:10 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

I'm getting tired of Rosario...

41Forever Jun 13 2019 08:16 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Game should have been called in the eighth. You can't pitch well in a downpour.

G-Fafif Jun 13 2019 08:17 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Much like the Blues, we have our own Laura Branigan song. [Youtube]J1ih6L21jbc[/youtube] [Quote]And I remember wonderin' Where you've been The night Spanish Eddie Cashed it in The night Spanish Eddie Cashed it in They were playin' "Desolation Row" on the radio The night Spanish Eddie Fell from grace There was amazement on his face On the night that Eddie failed Sanity prevailed

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 08:19 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

=dgwphotography post_id=12913 time=1560478213 user_id=78] I'm getting tired of Rosario...

I want to say that the ball skipped in the wet, and was hard to handle because of the wet, but it looked like he took his eye off the ball.

kcmets Jun 13 2019 08:30 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

This is bullshit, Pete Flynn must be rolling in the grave...

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 08:47 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

=41Forever post_id=12914 time=1560478576 user_id=69]Game should have been called in the eighth. You can't pitch well in a downpour.

Yeah, even as it was going on, and I was watching Díaz shoot himself in the ass, I was mentally building a central MLB office where standardized and dispassionate weather decisions can be made. That game made it seem like the umps had dinner reservations.



Or alternatively, just a standardized policy. If precipitation is at this rate, or wind is at that rate or some combo of those and other factors, the game is required to be delayed. No judgment of umpires needed. They stupid.

bmfc1 Jun 13 2019 08:54 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Lugo for the 9th until Diaz gets it together. It will never happen but I have confidence in Lugo.

Edgy MD Jun 13 2019 08:54 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

I'm all about nobody for the ninth except the guy who is pitching well.

ashie62 Jun 13 2019 08:55 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Is Diaz trying to suck? Geez

bmfc1 Jun 13 2019 08:55 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 13 2019 09:00 PM

Suspended game until tomorrow at 6:10. Diaz is paid millions to get three outs and he allows this shit show. F him and F Brodie.

41Forever Jun 13 2019 08:55 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

This is starting to get "suspended game" all over it.

ashie62 Jun 13 2019 08:56 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Edgy MD wrote: I'm all about nobody for the ninth except the guy who is pitching well. That might be Don Cardwell

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 13 2019 09:17 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Yeah I hate Diaz too. The Mets never learn

G-Fafif Jun 13 2019 09:31 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 13 2019 10:26 PM

Mets are 4-3 in previous completions of suspended games.

Ceetar Jun 13 2019 09:48 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

that was bullshit all around, like the Padres game in 2015. garbage. just amateurish by the umps/baseball.

Fman99 Jun 14 2019 05:25 AM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

I turned it off at the 2nd rain delay but even if they had picked it back up last night, I need sleep way more than I need to watch that kind of slop.

dgwphotography Jun 14 2019 06:48 AM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

I woke up still angry over the bullshit that happened last night

Frayed Knot Jun 14 2019 01:28 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

So here's my question: - the completion of last night's game, which picks up in the bottom of the 9th of a tie game with Frazier, Ramos, and Rosario due up, is scheduled to begin at 6:10 So when the game ends at 6:12, are they just going to make the fans sit there and wait for the next 58 minutes?

Centerfield Jun 14 2019 01:37 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Is this the first two-day IGT in CPF history?

Ceetar Jun 14 2019 01:43 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Matz debut in late June 2015 was delayed do to the resumption of a suspended game against the Reds.

kcmets Jun 14 2019 01:57 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Is this the first two-day IGT in CPF history? Going on Ceet's Matz comment, it's at least the second... http://archives.thecranepool.net/22900/f14_t22960.shtml

kcmets Jun 14 2019 04:09 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Prediction: Rosario kabooms for the win with 2 out and no one on...

nymr83 Jun 14 2019 04:18 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

=kcmets post_id=12993 time=1560550165 user_id=53] Prediction: Rosario kabooms for the win with 2 out and no one on...

Prediction: 18 innings, deflating loss, get blown out of game 2.

Edgy MD Jun 14 2019 04:29 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

None of the above. Ploof. Gary suggests Díaz might not be available for the nightcap. Oh.

ashie62 Jun 14 2019 04:39 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

That was lame, but quick

Frayed Knot Jun 14 2019 05:11 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Frayed Knot wrote: So when the game ends at 6:12, are they just going to make the fans sit there and wait for the next 58 minutes? Well, I was right about the quick part.

whippoorwill Jun 14 2019 06:54 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

What would make more sense Let degrom go pitch to a team with a real bullpen Keep degrom and the Mets get a real bullpen

kcmets Jun 14 2019 06:59 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

Or? c) Score more runs when deGrom pitches.

whippoorwill Jun 14 2019 07:09 PM Re: IGT 6/13/19 -- Sugar, Sugar & Jake

D) about 15 of them so maybe he'd be safe