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Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

batmagadanleadoff Jun 02 2019 11:50 AM

Why?

batmagadanleadoff Jun 02 2019 11:52 AM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=11831 time=1559497820 user_id=68]Why?

He's a .250 hitter who doesn't walk.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 02 2019 11:55 AM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=11832 time=1559497955 user_id=68] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=11831 time=1559497820 user_id=68]Why?

He's a .250 hitter who doesn't walk.


He's practically an automatic out and that's all he ever was throughout his brief career. The Mets should move him the fuck away from the top of the lineup.

smg58 Jun 02 2019 01:49 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

He has speed. I don't think that's enough either, but McNeil and Nimmo aren't here right now and the options are very limited. To be honest, with his defense at -13 runs saved at the beginning of June and Hechavarria at least giving us some pop, I think a trip to Syracuse would do him and the Mets some good once either Cano or McNeil comes back.

MFS62 Jun 02 2019 02:33 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

Ruben Tejada is hitting .425 at Syracuse. Just sayin'. Later

Gwreck Jun 02 2019 03:21 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

Is this a managerial question? If so, who would you pick to lead off instead? Or is this a GM question (“we should have better options”)?

batmagadanleadoff Jun 02 2019 03:53 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

Is this a managerial question? If so, who would you pick to lead off instead? Or is this a GM question (“we should have better options”)? I dunno. I never thought of it that way.. Does it even matter? And if it's a GM question, that wouldn't necessarily make it an "options" question. Plus, with this Keystone Cops operation, don't rule out Jeff Wilpon demanding that there be, above all else, a fast guy at the top of the lineup.

kcmets Jun 02 2019 04:09 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

Rosario kinda sucks more often than not.

Edgy MD Jun 02 2019 04:29 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

McNeil and Nimmo are hurt. And Mickey Callaway too easily slides into Development Mode and/or Protection Mode, rather than Hey-Let's-Win Mode.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 02 2019 05:05 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

Edgy MD wrote: McNeil and Nimmo are hurt. So what? Rosario is probably tha worst hitter in the lineup. A guy that should be batting eighth shouldn't ever bat first.

Edgy MD Jun 02 2019 05:30 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

Well, that's not where my post ended.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 02 2019 05:54 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

Rosey's still figuring it out. I think he can be and perhaps oughta be better than he's been so far, especially with the glove, but shirley he's shown stretches of enough production to conclude he may one day be a contributor and oftentimes till then you gotta live with the learning curve. I'm all for hitting him 7th or 8th but who's your leadoff man today? Hechavarria? Davis? They come with limitations too. Conforto might be a terrifying leadoff man but he's also your best 3rd and 4th hitter. As to why he's batting 1st it's obvious that our options are limited to the 8 hitters we put on the field on any given day. Of those 8 he prolly has the best speed and so is most likely to score a run I guess.

Gwreck Jun 02 2019 07:23 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=11843 time=1559512410 user_id=68] =Gwreck post_id=11841 time=1559510461 user_id=56] Is this a managerial question? If so, who would you pick to lead off instead? Or is this a GM question (“we should have better options”)?

I dunno. I never thought of it that way.. Does it even matter?

Well, I solicited your thoughts about who should be leading off instead, so I thought it mattered. And I asked the question because I think it's slightly more interesting to hear a solution when a problem is posed.



I'm 1000% on board, as I think you know, with the Mets desperately needing different and better ownership which would provide better resources and less meddling and having/allowing a GM to acquire better depth. So if it's a GM (or ownership) question that you're posing, I agree. The Mets should have more good players so that an Amed Rosario is not leading off. And yes, maybe I was throwing a little shade your way because I thought three posts to make your point was a little excessive, but I meant it in good fun.



But: since that issue was not to be resolved for today's game, I posed the Managerial question of who would you have had leadoff instead? Conforto is an interesting choice. After Conforto, Ramos was the regular who had the highest OBP going into the game today. Davis? That's a more interesting discussion.

Edgy MD Jun 02 2019 08:08 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

I don't know if it means anything, Michael Confoto led off the first third of the season last year, and hit pretty poorly from that position. His season didn't really recover until the second half.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 02 2019 08:13 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

It's a tough call. When the Mets are at full strength, such as it is, Rosario's probably the worst hitter in the lineup. Today, the Mets started two players, Davis and Altherr, who might be worse than Rosario. And by might, I mean probably. And I don't agree that Rosario should be batting lead off because of his potential and all that learning curve jazz. Not with his batting line. He could learn just the same batting sixth or seventh. The pitches come in just as fast and with the same spin whether he's batting 1st or 7th. He can move up when he actually realizes some of that potential.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 02 2019 08:15 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

Edgy MD wrote: I don't know if it means anything, Michael Confoto led off the first third of the season last year, and hit pretty poorly from that position. His season didn't really recover until the second half. Those were also his first at bats coming off a scary injury.

nymr83 Jun 03 2019 05:31 AM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=11863 time=1559528025 user_id=68] It's a tough call. When the Mets are at full strength, such as it is, Rosario's probably the worst hitter in the lineup. Today, the Mets started two players, Davis and Altherr, who might be worse than Rosario. And by might, I mean probably. And I don't agree that Rosario should be batting lead off because of his potential and all that learning curve jazz. Not with his batting line. He could learn just the same batting sixth or seventh. The pitches come in just as fast and with the same spin whether he's batting 1st or 7th. He can move up when he actually realizes some of that potential.

Davis seems like a better hitter than Rosario, though Rosario is more valuable because of defense that shouldn't matter for the lineup.



as others have said Nimmo and McNeil are both hurt and would be my first two choices, as is Cano who has historically gotten on base despite the slow start. Mickey is suffering a lack of options here but i'd probably go Conforto with Smith and Alonso sharing the field - Conforto, Smith, Alonso, Frazier, Ramos, Rosario, Hechevaria, Lagares right now. but it is a lot of bad choices.

Edgy MD Jun 03 2019 08:14 AM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

Edgy MD wrote: I don't know if it means anything, Michael Confoto led off the first third of the season last year, and hit pretty poorly from that position. His season didn't really recover until the second half. Those were also his first at bats coming off a scary injury. Like I wrote, I don't know if it means anything. Personally, I didn't like using him in that spot, but that was also when they had Nimmo as a glaringly obvious alternative.

Vic Sage Jun 03 2019 02:53 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

D.Smith has the best stats to bat leadoff right now, and Cano is coming back tomorrow. also, speed is a lot less important than just being on base when hitting in front of Alonzo and Conforto. D.Smith/Lf* Cano/2b* Alonzo/1b Conforto/Rf* Frazier/3b Ramos/C Gomez/Cf P-- Rosario/Ss

nymr83 Jun 03 2019 08:52 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

Vic Sage wrote: D.Smith has the best stats to bat leadoff right now, and Cano is coming back tomorrow. also, speed is a lot less important than just being on base when hitting in front of Alonzo and Conforto. D.Smith/Lf* Cano/2b* Alonzo/1b Conforto/Rf* Frazier/3b Ramos/C Gomez/Cf P-- Rosario/Ss who has to declare their lineup first? if i was the opposing manager and saw that i'd throw my lefty specialist out in the first inning with instructions to pitch around Alonso. "starting pitcher" to start the second.

Vic Sage Jun 03 2019 09:29 PM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

fine, so we take his head off in the 4th.

HahnSolo Jun 04 2019 06:48 AM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

Vic Sage wrote: D.Smith has the best stats to bat leadoff right now, and Cano is coming back tomorrow. also, speed is a lot less important than just being on base when hitting in front of Alonzo and Conforto. D.Smith/Lf* Cano/2b* Alonzo/1b Conforto/Rf* Frazier/3b Ramos/C Gomez/Cf P-- Rosario/Ss I like this. Says something about how poor Lagares has been that Gomez has basically taken his spot. Nimmo hurt, Broxton DFA'd, this should have been the time for him to step up.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 04 2019 06:57 AM Re: Why is Amed Rosario batting leadoff?

I wonder if Lagares isn't the guy to go when they make whatever changes they need to get Cano/McNeil/Zimmo back. Last months of a contract he never really lived up to despite the value of his glove.