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IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 08:20 AM

In the great Mets tradition of battling it out on the July 5 after spending a quiet, introspective Independence Day off with family, the Mets and Jacob deGrom host Vince Velasquez and the Phillies, while all in attendance will be buzzing with excitement for the commemoration of the 328 grand opening of Constatine's Bridge, spanning the Danube between Sucidava and Oescus, built 17 centuries ago and still one of the longest river spans ever.

Fman99 Jul 05 2019 08:46 AM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Wait, why are we celebrating Constatine's Bridge exactly? Is that a Chicago song?

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 09:23 AM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

No, just some idiot decided not to schedule baseball on the fourth of July, so we have to celebrate something else on the fifth.

Ceetar Jul 05 2019 09:31 AM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

to be fair, America doesn't exactly deserve to be celebrated right now anyway.

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 09:54 AM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

I appreciated the fourth more than ever yesterday. Tracing our independence back not to a decisive battle, a bloody surrender, or an uprising that led to hangings or guillotines for the ousted ruling class, but instead back to an act passed by a deliberative congress. The brave Continental Army is part of our legacy, but we weren't born at at Lexington, Concord, or Bunker Hill. We were born of civilian rule. Tanks, my ass.

kcmets Jul 05 2019 10:13 AM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

PHI (45‑42) Vince Velasquez (RHP, 2-5, 4.73) NYM (39‑48) Jacob deGrom (RHP, 4-7, 3.32)

kcmets Jul 05 2019 10:15 AM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xH9_9znxWM[/YOUTUBE]

G-Fafif Jul 05 2019 01:22 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

All Star Jeff McNeil LF All Star Pete Alonso 1B Former All Star Robinson Cano 2B Former All Star Michael Conforto CF Former All Star Todd Frazier Potential Future All Star Dom Smith LF Former All Star Wilson Ramos C Potential Future All Star Amed Rosario SS All Star Jacob deGrom P NOT PICTURED: deGrom's personal catcher Tomas Nido, perhaps so that Ramos doesn't feel the All Star pitchers don't like him.

Frayed Knot Jul 05 2019 01:32 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Phils be slippin'. After peaking at 3.5 games up in mid-May and starting June at still 2.0 in 1st, they spiraled into an 11-17 month of June and just came out of Atlanta losers of 2 of 3 so far in July. Their 3.5 game lead is now a -6.5 as they've been passed by both the Braves and Nationals, 6.0 games ahead of us. Last night they jumped out to 4 runs in the top of the 1st but were losing by the 2nd and wound up on the wrong end of a 12-6 drubbing. Bryce Harper is 8th on their team, and 6th among position players, in WAR (1.4). Basically he's Conforto this year [BH = .252, 16 HRs in 380 PA; MC = .247/16/335] only with a few more walks [58 to 46] and lots more drama and hair flips. Aaron Nola seems to have gotten his act straight lately and has been great over his last three starts [23 IP, 2R (1 ER) allowed on 11 hits, 5 BB vs 28 K]. We'll see him on Sunday vs Wheeler

kcmets Jul 05 2019 01:51 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

We need too see Good Ol' Bill and his brooms on Sunday. Gotta! #lgm #ygb #ymdyf

seawolf17 Jul 05 2019 01:53 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

=kcmets post_id=15141 time=1562356274 user_id=53] We need too see Good Ol' Bill and his brooms on Sunday. Gotta! #lgm #ygb #ymdyf

You're right. I mean, we're 12.5 back and we're not winning anything this year. And they should back up the truck regardless. But a sweep at least makes it interesting.

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 05:16 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

I really like the Constantine's Bridge-themed hats the Mets are wearing.

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 06:16 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

KAPOWIE!

bmfc1 Jul 05 2019 06:45 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

This is the article that Gary recommended to us: https://sports.yahoo.com/the-ballad-of-a-contact-hitter-how-mets-all-star-jeff-mc-neil-became-a-hitting-machine-194414711.html?soc_src=community&soc_trk=tw

bmfc1 Jul 05 2019 07:13 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

The umpires couldn't initiate a review on their own--why? Because they didn't want to be embarrassed that the HP ump missed a call that was right in front of him?

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 07:14 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Mickey, not only did you huh-waste your challenge, you've got to sell the idea of a crew chief challenge or get tossed trying.

bmfc1 Jul 05 2019 07:18 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Edgy MD wrote: Mickey, not only did you huh-waste your challenge, you've got to sell the idea of a crew chief challenge or get tossed trying. This is a good point--Mickey went down quietly but he could have asked and then gotten a signal from the dugout as to whether the call was correct. Mickey then should have shown some fire, or does he only do that for Tim Healy?

Frayed Knot Jul 05 2019 07:22 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

The problem is that there are no guidelines as to why or even if the umps go to a crew review. It's totally at their discretion and with a 'naked eye' call that seemed correct (throw was clearly late) there was no reason for them to think it was wrong and if they are going to be swayed by the passion of the manager then there becomes essentially no situation where they wouldn't go to a review at which point there's no longer a one per game limit. But only Mattingly, it seems, gets seven per game.

Frayed Knot Jul 05 2019 07:23 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

The other point is: who was the dummy who thought the Frazier challenge was a good idea? Mickey doesn't decide those things. No manager makes those calls.

bmfc1 Jul 05 2019 07:26 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

The home plate umpire is Brian Gorman. That call was so bad that Angel Hernandez was embarrassed.

Frayed Knot Jul 05 2019 07:30 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

But did anyone here see that call in live time and think he was out? I know I didn't. Ramos didn't seem to react. And no one in the booth said a word until after they saw the 'foot bounce' via the slo-mo replay.

bmfc1 Jul 05 2019 07:32 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Ramos pointed right away.

kcmets Jul 05 2019 07:35 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Frayed Knot wrote: But did anyone here see that call in live time and think he was out? I didn't either. They need to re-think how plays are reviewed, and the one and done thing -- particularly when calls go against the Mets!! Put some earbuds in the umps ears and have someone say you missed that one and do away with the whole, 'let's go to the headphones and waste five minutes' thing.

Frayed Knot Jul 05 2019 07:43 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Frayed Knot wrote: But did anyone here see that call in live time and think he was out? I didn't either. They need to re-think how plays are reviewed, I think they need to revamp things too. This current 'one and beg' system means you've either got a selective limit or no limit at all. I've said before that I'd be willing to go to two challenges per game but only if the call to go to review were made immediately w/o the whole 'directive from above' nonsense. That, at least, would stop reviews on those hair-splitting calls early in games.

kcmets Jul 05 2019 07:49 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Fuckin' Jay Bruce boo-boo bitin'...

bmfc1 Jul 05 2019 07:50 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 05 2019 07:53 PM

It's all encompassed right there: the guy that Brodie Van Ego trades for gives up a possible game-winner to one of the guys that he traded. And then Brodie Van Ego's FA catcher throws one in the Hudson River. The Mets only have 2 runs tonight but Brodie and Mickey should both be embarrassed.

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 07:50 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

I'm certainly for the decision to challenge only being made on the field in real time. Also, you get the second challenge only if you bet your neck, and accept that you get a red card if the play isn't overturned. SKIN IN THE GAME!

Frayed Knot Jul 05 2019 07:51 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

It's a deGrom game, things aren't allowed to go right.

bmfc1 Jul 05 2019 07:54 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Ramos saved a run there by not throwing. Good job!

Frayed Knot Jul 05 2019 07:57 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

This is at least three outings this season where Diaz has allowed multiple runs in a save situation before even recording a second out. He's not just blowing saves, he's destroying them.

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 08:00 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Chance for Familia to win at least part of his old job back.

Frayed Knot Jul 05 2019 08:01 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Edgy MD wrote: Chance for Familia to win at least part of his old job back. Right now he doesn't even have his 8th inning job back.

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 08:02 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

It's a volatile marketplace.

bmfc1 Jul 05 2019 08:04 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Other than JD Davis, did Brodie Van Ego make any good moves in the off-season? He kept Mickey, Eiland, and DiSarcina, signed a lot of coaches who appear to have had no impact, signed Familia, Ramos, Lowrie, Justin Wilson, traded 2 top prospects for Cano and Diaz... yeah, getting a novice GM was a brilliant decision by Jeffy.

kcmets Jul 05 2019 08:05 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Holy wagon-wheels-falling-off, Batman!

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 08:07 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Edgy MD wrote: Chance for Familia to win at least part of his old job back. Not happenin'. Not tonight, anyhoo.

Frayed Knot Jul 05 2019 08:07 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Edgy MD wrote: Chance for Familia to win at least part of his old job back. Yeah, no.

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 08:08 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

It would be a good time to get J.D. Davis some work on the mound, but he's already been burned.

whippoorwill Jul 05 2019 08:14 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 05 2019 08:15 PM

Was watching til degrom came out; hubby left to watch Pasquale cook and I started a manicure Ten minutes later I'm in bed

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 08:15 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

That David Letterman-lookin' guy is looking half dead behind home plate.

Frayed Knot Jul 05 2019 08:17 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

You'd like to see your pitchers average around 15 pitches or fewer per inning, or five per each out recorded. Diaz & Familia tonight have combined for 38 pitches to record just two outs. That this means neither will likely be available for tomorrow's game may or may not be a bad thing.

whippoorwill Jul 05 2019 08:18 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

That's a good thing Hopefully it won't get rained out

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 08:18 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

AVILAN FOR CLOSER!

bmfc1 Jul 05 2019 08:20 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Gutless: [TWEET]https://twitter.com/NYPost_Mets/status/1147328535482310658[/TWEET]

kcmets Jul 05 2019 08:27 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Six losses in a row to the Phillies...

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 08:48 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Worst Constatine's Bridge Day EVER. I think I'm, like, 0-3 in IGTs this year.

kcmets Jul 05 2019 09:07 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Jay Bruce was boo boo bitin' His bites were fast as lightnin' Hopefully the powers that be will take a cold hard look at that botched safe/out call and how it changed this game. Loser talk? Most certainly. But I care about this shit lollol...

Edgy MD Jul 05 2019 09:14 PM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

=kcmets post_id=15195 time=1562382454 user_id=53]Loser talk? Most certainly.

Until tomorrow, that's the only kinda talk that's left.

Vic Sage Jul 09 2019 08:20 AM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 22 2019 02:53 PM

so i went to this game with my brother-in-law. He's a MFY fan but he bought tickets as a belated birthday present for me, because he loves SEINFELD. Lets re-read that: HE loves Seinfeld. I could give a shit about Seinfeld. But i don't want to be rude, and its a free ticket, so wtf. i drive, and we go early to eat dinner. I get my favorite spot (under the highway, on the right, right outside the leftfield lots) which gets me onto the Northbound 678 after the game really quick and easy. We go to Foxwoods and things start to turn sour when we can't find a seat (we end up sitting with a disputatious trailerpark duo) and then i have to wait 1/2 hour for a foot-long with fake cheese and even faker bacon, and a Dole Whip float, which tasted even worse. But we get to our seats and... whaddyaknow, they're the third row off the field, on the left field line (sec 125). we're behind that annoying (but necessary) extended netting, but I don't think i've ever sat any closer (well, once, behind home, in the early 80s, which i bought off a desperate scalper for pennies on the dollar). It was a super-hot day, but it's become a comfortable evening, and i'm in a good seat, and i got a bobblehead, and deGrom is starting, so everything is looking up... until deGrom's 1st pitch, which exits the yard with alacrity. But he settles down and pitches a 1 hitter into the late innings, with a 2-1 lead. Meanwhille, i get close on a few foul balls, but no cigar (i've been trying to catch a foul ball for 50 years now... i'll let you know if i ever get one. Actually, you'll know i got one because Hell will have frozen over). I consider punching a big, drunk, fat Phillies fan (i know, redundant) who has grabbed a foul ball out of the hands of a dad, trying to get it for his kid, but he looks like a brawler and is surrounded by fellow travelers, so i let it go (i haven't actually punched anyone since middle school, so to say i "considered it" is overstating the case). But Mr. Met comes by, and he throws t-shirts into the crowd... and i leapt a full 3 inches off the ground and snagged one. Its a good shirt, too.! So its 2-1 and i say to b-i-law "we need more; a 2-1 lead for our pen is like being behind." sure enough, its 2-2, going into the 9th and i say "lets go". I know what's coming. I don't want to see it. Instead, i get to listen on the radio as Diaz, Famila and the rest of the Manson family spooge all over the field for yet another bullpen loss. Still, i'm able to zip right out of the lot and onto the highway. No traffic, and i'm home in 20 minutes; the 9th inning is still going. I thank b-i-law; he wants to make plans for another social activity but i'm tired of trying to make conversation with him all night and don't relish the thought of trying to do it again, so i beg off and go to bed. My wife, hearing me come in, sleepily asks "did they win?" I give her a kiss on the head, climb into bed, and mumble "what do you think?". "I hate baseball", i say, as my eyes close. She chuckles and rolls over. I drift off, numb once more.

Centerfield Jul 10 2019 08:26 AM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

Great report. "Disputatious" is a great word. I've spent 44 years trying to catch a foul ball and haven't gotten particularly close. Two rows in front was the closest to me. My son has never gotten a foul ball, but he got two during batting practice, and had one tossed to him by Cliff Lee as he jogged off the field. He also had one land in his chair that he had left vacated to buy ice cream. His buddy John, who was with us for the game, snatched it up.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 10 2019 09:21 AM Re: IGT, 7/5, PHA@NYM

I caught a foul ball thrown into the stands by an outfielder in 1998; but never one off the bat... In 1983, George Hendrick of the Pirates hit one right to me at Shea. I went to snag it with my glove hand (not wearing a glove, unfortunately) and it smashed painfully off the bony part of my lower palm 3 rows in front of me and across the aisle where a guy calmly picked it up off the floor. I was keeping score and didn't drop the little pencil in my right hand. Dos manos, amigos