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Edgy MD Jun 30 2019 05:30 AM

Face flop of the day yesterday: The Mets memorial montage of 1969ers no longer alive included two guys — Jim Gosger and Jesse Hudson — alive at the current time. I'd post a link, but you can just go to your favorite tabloid. They're all featuring it. In other circumstances, it might have been nice that they included Hudson, who only appeared in one game. But he's still eligible to appear in another.

41Forever Jun 30 2019 08:14 AM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

Jay Horwitz, isn't it your job to keep in touch with alumni and be aware of such things?

Edgy MD Jun 30 2019 08:41 AM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

I'm guessing Jay is not in his sharpest years. I'm sending in a blind application today.

G-Fafif Jun 30 2019 11:26 AM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

Jim Gosger lives and other reflections from a beautiful celebration of 1969.

Edgy MD Jun 30 2019 02:21 PM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

Would it be crazy to encourage the Mets to try to get square by throwing a Gosger & Hudson Day? Complete with bobblehead dolls. They can dedicate as much to celebrating those two (and by extension any and all ephemeral Mets, especially those who appeared in a championship season), as well as eating humble pie. I mean, it would be kind of bush league, but no moreso than the unforced error that precipitated it.

whippoorwill Jun 30 2019 04:00 PM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

Maybe they didn't respond when reached out to

smg58 Jun 30 2019 05:05 PM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

You could go on baseballreference.com and find all this information out in about 10 minutes. This isn't rocket science.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 30 2019 05:25 PM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

=smg58 post_id=14677 time=1561935908 user_id=62] You could go on baseballreference.com and find all this information out in about 10 minutes. This isn't rocket science.

Yeah. Those gaffes were grossly incompetent. But I like the idea of a Jesse Hudson bobblehead. If the Mets did that, that'd be my favorite bobblehead.

G-Fafif Jun 30 2019 11:01 PM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

https://mobile.twitter.com/greg_prince/status/1145465341000089600/photo/1 I notice the Mets used the spelling "Jessie," which I've seen on UMDB and nowhere else. If they indeed spoke to him, perhaps he confirmed the spelling.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 01 2019 01:10 AM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

I noticed the "Jessie" spelling, too, which I've ignored (see my previous post in this thread). I figured "Jessie" was yet another Mets screwup, on top of the first screwup. While it's possible that the Mets finally corrected the misspelling of Hudson's first name after reaching out to him over this death list fuckup, it doesn't make any sense. His name's been spelled without the i for over 50 years. In Mets yearbooks. On his Topps rookie card. What about the contracts Hudson signed? With the Mets. With Topps. If Hudson was signing those contracts with the "i", then how to explain 50 years worth of mispellings without that "i"?

Benjamin Grimm Jul 01 2019 07:30 AM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

So who are the ones who couldn't attend? Of the top of my head, there are those who are actually no longer living: Agee, Clendenon, McGraw, Frisella, Charles and managers/coaches Hodges, Walker, Berra, and Yost. And Seaver was in the too ill category. Who else wasn't there? Did Joe Pignatano make it?

41Forever Jul 01 2019 08:38 AM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

I don't think Nolan Ryan was there. Gary Gentry?

Edgy MD Jul 01 2019 09:08 AM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

Benjamin Grimm wrote: So who are the ones who couldn't attend? Of the top of my head, there are those who are actually no longer living: Agee, Clendenon, McGraw, Frisella, Charles and managers/coaches Hodges, Walker, Berra, and Yost. And Seaver was in the too ill category. Who else wasn't there? Did Joe Pignatano make it? No, Piggy didn't make it. But they did a generally good job of recruiting and honoring family members of Piggy and many who were unable to attend.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 01 2019 09:38 AM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

Les Rohr said he wasn't gonna come, even though his pickup truck tells the story of where he once was https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/billingsgazette.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/0f/20f36ab0-8255-11de-8b76-001cc4c002e0/20f36ab0-8255-11de-8b76-001cc4c002e0.image.jpg>

G-Fafif Jul 01 2019 11:56 AM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

Pignatano's son, Gentry's wife and Seaver's daughters and grandsons represented the non-attending living. Boswell, Weis (whose wife is too ill for him to leave her) and Ryan got respectful shoutouts but didn't send representation. Al Jackson, organizational pitching guru who was included in 2009 despite being sold to the Reds in June 1969, did not have representation or get a mention. He suffered a stroke in 2015, was given a place of honor and nice “what he means to us” writeup in the media guide as recently as 2018 but is no longer listed there this year. I wonder if there was a fallout with his family once his contract ran out (pure Wilpon-fueled speculation). Everybody who's no longer with us but wad part of the World Series roster had a living relative-type on hand, coaches, manager, Mrs. Payson and Johnny Murphy included. I wonder how the group dynamic changes if the guest list expands. “Remember that time in Baltimore...no, Bob Heise, I guess you don't.” Revered world champions' reunion as perpetual high school cafeteria table.

G-Fafif Jul 01 2019 02:29 PM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

Edgy MD wrote: Would it be crazy to encourage the Mets to try to get square by throwing a Gosger & Hudson Day? Complete with bobblehead dolls. They can dedicate as much to celebrating those two (and by extension any and all ephemeral Mets, especially those who appeared in a championship season), as well as eating humble pie. I mean, it would be kind of bush league, but no moreso than the unforced error that precipitated it. I like it. It's still the 50th anniversary of 1969, and each man made his Mets debut that September, thus there's time. Schedule it around or to coincide with Tebow's debut.

Edgy MD Jul 01 2019 03:28 PM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

I think Jesse's the only Met who shares his name with a New York body of water, or waterway, unless you count Jason "Jamaica" Bay.

Edgy MD Jul 01 2019 08:19 PM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

I got another one, sort of: Matt/Ronn/Tommie Reynolds Channel. I guess that could be another three.

G-Fafif Jul 02 2019 07:14 AM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

Gosger got a ring from the Mets Saturday night, but not the ring he believes he earned 50 years ago. https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-jim-gosger-69-mets-interview-not-dead-20190701-7vvki2bgkrgv5jdj76mt2jmaui-story.html?outputType=amp#click=https://t.co/u6YJFqcATM

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 02 2019 09:04 AM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

wow

G-Fafif Jul 02 2019 01:18 PM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

Ron Swoboda was on MLBN earlier today (wearing his Mets jacket), noting that Ken Boswell "no longer connects with" his former teammates as his explanation for why he was a Saturday absentee. Gary Gentry, he said, has been in poor health. Nolan Ryan he thought would be there and didn't know why he wasn't. Rocky was about to say something about Seaver when Chris Russo, who remains a fucking idiot, interjected that "Koosman was there," as if the issue was who was gonna pitch, and derailed Swoboda's train of thought.

Edgy MD Jul 02 2019 01:41 PM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

LOL Russo. Who hires these guys? Is HR just like, "I dunno. Let's just recycle, I guess."

Frayed Knot Jul 02 2019 02:06 PM Re: I'm not Dead Yet

Russo, to his credit, was always one of the few on-air sports jocks who would talk national baseball stories rather than limiting himself to only those involving the local teams. Such stuff is a rarity for most of sports talk radio and is strictly forbidden on national shows (aka: all ESPN & FOX shows). As such, Mad Dog was a natural for MLBN to sign to do a one-hour daily show on their network. He's still the same goofball he always was (and I presume still is though I don't hear him now that he's off terrestrial radio) so the occasional inappropriate and/or just plain stupid comments are still in play, but at least his heart is in the right place.