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I'm glad I never bought anything from the 7 Line

Centerfield
Jul 03 2019 08:40 AM
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And am absolutely positive I never will. What a joke.


There was no anger. No vitriol. None of the animosity seen on social media. Brodie Van Wagenen sat with Mets fans for the first half of Tuesday's 4-2 Subway Series victory over the Yankees, and was treated like a conquering hero....



At one point, Mets fans chanted “Brodie, Brodie, Brodie.” One told him he should run for mayor. Another said: “He's the MVP.”




https://nypost.com/2019/07/02/mets-fans-brodie-van-wagenen-had-balls-to-come-out-here/



MVP? Not sure what planet these guys live on.

Vic Sage
Jul 03 2019 08:50 AM
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serious sucking up.

there was a (very bad) word for slaves on a plantation who were pliant enough to work in the slave owner's house.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jul 03 2019 08:54 AM
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Tucks in his jersey, kinda dorky.



The "pinman" was up in our section last night (508).



I'm cool with the 7Line though I'm pretty sure there's a douche/Long island Trash element to it. I don't know the details but pretty sure I witnessed some reprehensible sexist online behavior by some dumb individuals who feel strengthened by their association with it; there's a gross calendar featuring skanky Long Island chix. I'm also not too impressed with the gear they sell, I like some of it but most not for me and of course the origin story is riddled with conflict, gathering support on SELL THE TEAM NOW then pivoting to a support org.

Vic Sage
Jul 03 2019 08:59 AM
Re: I'm glad I never bought anything from the 7 Line

section 508? is that section actually in the park or on a plane passing overhead?

seawolf17
Jul 03 2019 09:08 AM
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I've bought a few shirts from them through the years -- notably, the Mookie/Game 6 boxscore one, which I still wear all the time -- and they got me into Game 5 of the World Series, so I can't be too mad at that.



A friend of mine is a full-on "member" and goes to all the games and some of the trips, and he's a really good dude, so whereas there may be a douchey element to it, I think that's just a generalized NYC/LI thing, not a 7 Line thing. They're a fuckton better than the Bleacher Creatures ever were. Darren, by all accounts, seems like a very good guy. He fully admits that he's not going to jeopardize his livelihood by being openly anti-Mets right now, and I don't blame him for that. And they did away with the "girls" calendar a few years back and it's all group photos now, IIRC, although to their credit, they did have Amanda, a fan who's in a wheelchair, as one of their models that year, so they do get a point or two for inclusivity.

G-Fafif
Jul 03 2019 09:13 AM
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Some great merchandise, particularly the historical flair. Darren Meenan has paid more homage to the Mets Polo Grounds roots via t-shirts than the franchise has in any form these past forty years. The gross calendar is on hiatus.



Their crowd, based on my one evening out in center with them a couple of years ago, is 90-95% cool, with a touch of idiocy thrown in...though since it was directed at MFY fans, I couldn't fully condemn it. A greater middle-aged element than you'd suspect. There's a little too much "now is the time on Sprockets when we cheer" for my tastes, but I admire their enthusiasm and commitment from a distance. It's Mets fans rooting for the Mets while wearing orange. I don't know why they're supposed to pay their way into a game and then get angry.



As for Brodie's visit, starstruckedness will happen.

41Forever
Jul 03 2019 09:21 AM
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I bought a really cool cap form the 7 Line. It has the NY logo over an apple shaped like the Unisphere.



Darren posted something recently responding to people who called on him to boycott and such. He said he's a fan through and through, thick and thin. I respected that.



I don't think there is value in vitriol. It's not like he caused the injuries or caused some of the players to have subpar seasons. He did what he could with what he had. I'll give him more than a half season before passing judgement.



I think it's neat that he wore a jersey and sat in the stands with fans.

kcmets
Jul 03 2019 09:40 AM
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I've met Darren briefly a few times and seems awwhight. Many of us know

people who know him better and I've never really heard a bad word on him.



For those of us old enough to be around when sites were being served cease

and desist orders and shutdown threats for using a Met logo (GASP!!!) I guess

I'm a little bitter about complying and misreading the tidal wave that was coming

down the CAT-5 turnpike.



I have one shirt, but it was gift.



#lgm #ygb #ymdyf

seawolf17
Jul 03 2019 09:47 AM
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=G-Fafif post_id=14964 time=1562166820 user_id=55]A greater middle-aged element than you'd suspect.


Not entirely surprising. Their packages aren't cheap.



The enthusiasm is infectious as hell when you're out there, and they take great pains when they're on the road to say HEY, DON'T BE ASSHOLES IN A VISITING STADIUM. It's really very positive.

Frayed Knot
Jul 03 2019 09:50 AM
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Frayed Knot
Jul 03 2019 09:50 AM
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=Centerfield post_id=14952 time=1562164857 user_id=65]There was no anger. No vitriol. None of the animosity seen on social media. Brodie Van Wagenen sat with Mets fans for the first half of Tuesday's 4-2 Subway Series victory over the Yankees, and was treated like a conquering hero....



At one point, Mets fans chanted “Brodie, Brodie, Brodie.” One told him he should run for mayor. Another said: “He's the MVP.”





I remember back in the MoFo days when our old frenemy METSC, who was as anti-BobbyV as one could get in those days, toned down his act for a time after admitting that he had recently been totally charmed

by meeting BV in person during a visit to his short-lived Queens restaurant. Now Bobby, as we all know, is certainly a candidate for the schmoozer HoF so could easily have that effect on people. But I'm also

guessing that someone who goes into the business of getting young athletes with a world of talent to trust their employment and financial futures to him probably isn't far behind.

Starstruckedness indeed.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jul 03 2019 10:03 AM
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we gotta get metsc over here. He could be a knucklehead but there was a purity to it, his feuds with "Rich" were awesome fun

Ceetar
Jul 03 2019 10:05 AM
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I mean, it's one thing to rant and rage online, quite another to encounter people and realize they are in fact, people. 99.9% of people, were they to encounter like, Tom Glavine or Oliver Perez in public, wouldn't scream at them.



I mean come on, the GM of the team came down and sat with fans. We're all, presumably, on the same side here. We want to have a good time at the ballpark. There is zero value in trying to grill Van Wagenen in the stands during a baseball game besides feeding your own rage.



Darren is a nice guy. He, and maybe The7Line as a whole, lean a little too bro-y for me at times, and I wished he hadn't given the Barstool trolls the time of day, but it's mostly a good group looking to have a good time in fandom. The % of assholes is probably less than if you took a random subset of 750 people in the stands. But I'm biased and count some of them as my friends, so *shrug*.

bmfc1
Jul 03 2019 10:09 AM
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Darren has a license with MLB to sell Mets clothing and has a kiosk at CitiField so he's not going to jeopardize his business by creating a "FIRE MICKEY" tee shirt. He's pissed about the team--I follow him on Twitter and listen to his weekly podcast--but his business is all Mets (no other team-related products) so T7L is about positivity, fun, and comradery, even the team sucks.

Edgy MD
Jul 03 2019 10:50 AM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

we gotta get metsc over here. He could be a knucklehead but there was a purity to it, his feuds with "Rich" were awesome fun


He hated any hitter who wasn't hot at the time, but loved-loved Rey, who was hot none of the time.

Edgy MD
Jul 03 2019 10:54 AM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:
there's a gross calendar featuring skanky Long Island chix.


I'm not sure, but I think they've been putting out these cheesecake calendars since 2014, and it feels like the next person of color they include will be the first.

Vic Sage
Jul 03 2019 11:23 AM
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There is zero value in trying to grill Van Wagenen in the stands during a baseball game besides feeding your own rage.


why zero value? Sometimes rage needs to be fed.

Centerfield
Jul 03 2019 11:43 AM
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No one is saying you have to curse the man out. But to parade him down the Canyon of Heros is a little much.

Centerfield
Jul 03 2019 12:06 PM
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And I've met people I don't care for in person many times. I don't curse them out, or even say anything.



In those situations, a disapproving look is enough to send the message.



I know who you are. I'm not saying anything. By my expression, I am voicing my displeasure.

Ceetar
Jul 03 2019 12:10 PM
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Vic Sage wrote:

There is zero value in trying to grill Van Wagenen in the stands during a baseball game besides feeding your own rage.


why zero value? Sometimes rage needs to be fed.


i did say besides right?



but that's an unhealthy way to live. It's the same as showing up at the game just to boo your own starting pitcher. Sure, he's part of the entertainment package and not everyone consumes everything the same way, but damn, it's angry and aggressive, and ultimately you DO (though I'm not sure everyone does) want everything he goes going forward to be a rousing success.

Centerfield
Jul 03 2019 12:30 PM
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There is a huge difference between booing a starting pitcher, who is trying his hardest to play a difficult game at the highest level, and expressing your discontent at a snake oil salesman who lies through his teeth and provides cover for crooked ownership.

Ceetar
Jul 03 2019 01:38 PM
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=Centerfield post_id=14993 time=1562178628 user_id=65]
There is a huge difference between booing a starting pitcher, who is trying his hardest to play a difficult game at the highest level, and expressing your discontent at a snake oil salesman who lies through his teeth and provides cover for crooked ownership.





yeah no.

Centerfield
Jul 03 2019 02:00 PM
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=Ceetar post_id=14997 time=1562182699 user_id=102]
=Centerfield post_id=14993 time=1562178628 user_id=65]
There is a huge difference between booing a starting pitcher, who is trying his hardest to play a difficult game at the highest level, and expressing your discontent at a snake oil salesman who lies through his teeth and provides cover for crooked ownership.





yeah no.




yeah yes.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jul 03 2019 02:04 PM
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I'da probably been nice to Brodie too. But I'd also be trying to subtly interrogate him.



So, Brodie, when Fred said "trade for Cano," you were on board immediately?

Frayed Knot
Jul 03 2019 02:17 PM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

we gotta get metsc over here. He could be a knucklehead but there was a purity to it, his feuds with "Rich" were awesome fun


And, in truth, those were mostly RK's fault. SC annoyed the hell out of him but it was Rick's overreactions to SC's occasional knuckleheadedness which started the (mostly one-way) feud.



For a time there I was looking for an opportunity to invite RK out on a bike ride. He and I were both regular riders in those days and he lived just a few towns away and right on my way

to the Jones Beach bikeway. He clearly had a lot of anger issues, although none of them were at me, and I thought he needed to vent. Never got around to it though. Pity.

41Forever
Jul 03 2019 02:18 PM
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a snake oil salesman who lies through his teeth and provides cover for crooked ownership.


I would disagree with this. I've never met the man, so I have no idea. He seems to have left a very, very, very lucrative career because this was a job he really, really wanted. I have to think he went into the job with the right intentions and is probably just as disappointed at the team's performance as the rest of us, and probably more so.



I can't think of a motive for taking the job to be a snake oil salesman.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jul 03 2019 02:42 PM
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Aka "rkSlow" looolllloll. Bestowing his enemies with nicknames normal people would consider not clever enough was in it's own way, genius

Edgy MD
Jul 03 2019 03:07 PM
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I negotiated a half truce between those two. I might have done it just to see if I could.



RK apologized. METSSC ("Metsy" to KC) rejected it though, citing a whole lot of shit he had taken. RK, to his credit, agreed, saying that even though he was sincere in his apology, Metsy had no obligation to pretend he hadn't ripped him to shreds just an hour before.



I'm not sure where it went from there. They're probably either BFFs now or their beef has spilled over onto multiple platforms and is bigger than ever.



But, while nostalgia is fun, I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if Metsy wasn't a #MAGA troll these days. Think this is him?

Frayed Knot
Jul 03 2019 03:11 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Think this is him?


Hell yes. That there's a St Johns hoops entry in there merely seals the deal.

stevejrogers
Jul 04 2019 07:19 AM
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I'm still wondering why he felt the need to keep his promise to do it.



The only scenario where it would have been appropriate to keep, and not look like a tone deaf douchebag (never mind the idea of dealing with either trolls or sycophants in the sections) would have been if the Mets were comfortably in first, and no major injuries in several weeks. In other words, a perfect scenario where there are no pressing major league roster concerns, or need to add a piece or send off pieces to contenders.



Yeah I know on a Tuesday evening in early July you probably aren't going to be getting much work done that couldn't be done or followed up on Wednesday morning, but still it probably would have looked better if he was back in his usual suite watching the game, and giving off the impression that he was still at work fixing the roster, etc.



Hanging with the fanbase (say they had an outing to watch a road game at Foley's) is one thing, doing in it in a situation where it looks like you aren't doing your job isn't another.

Ceetar
Jul 04 2019 07:50 AM
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luckily he has assistants and is entitled to not work 24/7.

stevejrogers
Jul 04 2019 08:42 AM
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=Ceetar post_id=15065 time=1562248249 user_id=102]
luckily he has assistants and is entitled to not work 24/7.



LOL, I agree, especially as I said when its late evening-night time on an early July Tuesday, its just not a good look for public perception when the team is in a state of chaos and you're sitting in the stands trying to prove that you are one of them.



There are other ways of doing it, where its not such a public spectacle.

41Forever
Jul 04 2019 09:48 AM
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Disagree, Steve. I think there's value in maintaining a positive relationship with fans.

Edgy MD
Jul 04 2019 10:49 AM
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Who doesn't want to be a populist exec? Fist-bumping the customers? Wearing jeans to work? Coming up with corny nicknames for your leadership-level staff? Misquoting Talking Heads in your office-wide e-mails? That guy has it made. He probably uses a scooter in the office.



I mean, #MeToo is barrelling at him like a runaway train, but until it arrives, his life is sweet.

stevejrogers
Jul 04 2019 12:13 PM
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=41Forever post_id=15070 time=1562255333 user_id=69]
Disagree, Steve. I think there's value in maintaining a positive relationship with fans.



My point wasn't that the idea of doing it wasn't bad. When it came to pass that the Mets have been an absolute joke, going out to be in the T7L's section and hanging out during the game looks bad.



Like I said, a less public spectacle like showing up at a group's (T7L or otherwise) road game viewing party at Foley's, The Pine, where ever, is a more appropriate way of doing it if not in that perfect scenario I said (comfortably in 1st, no recent rash of injuries).

Frayed Knot
Jul 04 2019 01:01 PM
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Hanging with the public is easy when things are going well.

To shy away and/or back out on a previous commitment because the team is in a slump, on the other hand, looks particularly bad.

duan
Jul 05 2019 06:07 AM
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Honestly, I think people giving out about this are insane.



From the 7line perspective....

The GM of the team 'takes a seat with them' and they treat him with respect and civility. I think that's the least I'd expect them to do. I don't know how they talked, but I don't think you would expect to get into a serious discussion at a ball park when a game is on. I'm sure BVW is acutely aware of the disappointment that Cano & Diaz have been and wishes he could reverse the trade and doesn't need people shouting at him at a game to analyse this.





Brodie Van Wagenen perspective

I don't get the "he should be doing something else" or "he should be ashamed of his actions"

Hiding away when things go wrong is easy, showing up takes guts. It's also important to take the temperature of your 'fans', people like the 7line saying "hey we're ok with you trading assets to get better for 2020/21" or "we really don't think you should move anyone as if you do attendance will plummet" would be legitimate, interesting and important things for him to here as they have a direct impact on the team, certainly more impact then seeing the statcast data on launch angles a few hours earlier (or whatever other reports he may have been due to receive in that time). I'm not saying that what fans think should be an over-riding decision making element, but it's a factor you need to weigh up, and figuring out what it would require to get buy in on a decision is not something to be ignored.





Finally - about the 7line - I've never been to a game with them (haven't been in NYC since June 2001!) but the one thing I think is amazing is that they've finally got the 'away fan' culture going a bit. One of the brilliant things about football is the way that there's fans who travel to matches all round the country/world to follow their team. It's what makes the atmosphere - it also allows things like this ...

[to explain - Emmanuel Adebayor had left Arsenal for Man City - Arsenal fans believed it was to get more money, Adebayor says that Arsenal accepted the bid for him and he didn't precipitate it. When Arsenal travelled to play City at the start of the season their fans gave him all sorts of grief - then he scored.... ]



[url]https://www.mancity.com/citytv/goals/gotd/goal-of-the-day-emmanuel-adebayor-v-arsenal

duan
Jul 05 2019 06:11 AM
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I tried to embed that a bunch of different ways.

Edgy MD
Jul 05 2019 06:41 AM
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Your point stands.



The only problem I have with BVW taking in a game with the 7-Line Army is that it wasn't with The Crane Pool Army.



We had some cool shirts going here back in the day. We had some great concepts, but didn't put as much time into the artwork and development and didn't effectively monetize it, and the 7-Line did. I think we push more interesting perspectives here, but they grew from hard work while we shrunk. Fair fucks to them.

seawolf17
Jul 05 2019 07:23 AM
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I would absolutely reboot our Ramones shirt, because my old one shrunk.

41Forever
Jul 05 2019 07:24 AM
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A former member of the Pool infiltrated the 7 Line and met BVW and posted a photo. So we were kind of representing.



I miss having MetFairy here.

stevejrogers
Jul 05 2019 07:46 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

Hanging with the public is easy when things are going well.

To shy away and/or back out on a previous commitment because the team is in a slump, on the other hand, looks particularly bad.


Fair, but my point wasn't that he kept a promise/commitment, it was the venue that the commitment was in. Would it have been better served being in a section closer to his suite if he had to be called away for an urgent call or something that couldn't wait until the morning?



I'd probably say that would have been a better look than the section behind center. Though now that I think of it, aren't the actual offices right there, which would be more appropriate to go to for conducting business than the suite I guess.



I think it was more the overt spectacle of it that makes it cringe worthy than if it was somewhere else in the park, or like at a bar/restaurant party setting.

dgwphotography
Jul 05 2019 08:15 AM
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OMG. He took in a game with some fans. Nothing ugly happened, and a seemingly good time was had by all. This is a good thing. This team has been tone deaf for too long, and anytime upper management reaches out to the fans is a good thing.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jul 05 2019 08:16 AM
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You can't be serious, Rogers. They have these things called cellphones today.

Fman99
Jul 05 2019 09:20 AM
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OMG. He took in a game with some fans. Nothing ugly happened, and a seemingly good time was had by all. This is a good thing. This team has been tone deaf for too long, and anytime upper management reaches out to the fans is a good thing.


Yep there it is. I'm not in "the Army" but I'm all about engaged fans and management who wants to be a part of the fan experience. There's nothing negative here except people's personal spin on the current/historical fortunes of the team, IMHO.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 05 2019 09:27 AM
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Put me down for what the last three posters are talking about, which is what I was gonna write as soon as I read rogers' post. Oh my God! Call the FBI! BVW hung out with some fans in the stands. If BVW gets away with this, next thing you know, BVW might have his wife over for a lunch break. And if that happens, his kids might wanna come over to take in a game and some Shake Shack burgers. Then what? Woe is me.

Edgy MD
Jul 05 2019 09:50 AM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

You can't be serious, Rogers. They have these things called cellphones today.


That's half the fun. You're sitting next to him and a text pops up, and you all crane your necks trying to see his screen.



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nymr83
Jul 05 2019 09:54 AM
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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=15124 time=1562340439 user_id=68]
Put me down for what the last three posters are talking about, which is what I was gonna write as soon as I read rogers' post. Oh my God! Call the FBI! BVW hung out with some fans in the stands. If BVW gets away with this, next thing you know, BVW might have his wife over for a lunch break. And if that happens, his kids might wanna come over to take in a game and some Shake Shack burgers. Then what? Woe is me.



This sums it up to me. Attacking BVW for watching the game with fans is absurd. It is a case of what we see too much of in politics bleeding over now even in to baseball - which is deciding you dont like someone and therefore attacking even the innocuos things they do.



As for the 7 Line, I applaud them. They are fans having fun. I grew up with a guy very involved with them and sat there for a game last season, it was fun. Isn't this all about fun?

TransMonk
Jul 05 2019 09:59 AM
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=duan post_id=15105 time=1562328476 user_id=99]
Finally - about the 7line - I've never been to a game with them (haven't been in NYC since June 2001!) but the one thing I think is amazing is that they've finally got the 'away fan' culture going a bit. One of the brilliant things about football is the way that there's fans who travel to matches all round the country/world to follow their team. It's what makes the atmosphere - it also allows things like this ...

[to explain - Emmanuel Adebayor had left Arsenal for Man City - Arsenal fans believed it was to get more money, Adebayor says that Arsenal accepted the bid for him and he didn't precipitate it. When Arsenal travelled to play City at the start of the season their fans gave him all sorts of grief - then he scored.... ]



I pre-gamed with the 7LA and sat with them when they came to Milwaukee in 2016. Sitting with them in Milwaukee on the Friday night and then in the 7LA section on Saturday was some of the most fun I've had at a baseball game. For a guys that attends 95% of his Mets games away from NYC, it was great to be able to cheer with fans of my team. I briefly met Darren at the pre-game party and he seemed nice enough.



Some of the aspects were dorky (yelling at the players during the first inning until they acknowledged the section - ala Yankee fans) and I wouldn't hang out with most of them in my personal life. But the experience was really fun and I hope to do it again in other cities.

G-Fafif
Jul 05 2019 11:47 AM
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Pete McCarthy, much-missed radio pregame host, said on the Metrospective podcast that he sat with T7L on Tuesday night and there was no “Brodie, Brodie” chant. At most, a couple of fans called out to him.



It's almost as if what the Post reports needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

Frayed Knot
Jul 05 2019 12:47 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

Hanging with the public is easy when things are going well.

To shy away and/or back out on a previous commitment because the team is in a slump, on the other hand, looks particularly bad.


Fair, but my point wasn't that he kept a promise/commitment, it was the venue that the commitment was in. Would it have been better served being in a section closer to his suite if he had to be called away for an urgent call or something that couldn't wait until the morning?



I'd probably say that would have been a better look than the section behind center. Though now that I think of it, aren't the actual offices right there, which would be more appropriate to go to for conducting business than the suite I guess.



I think it was more the overt spectacle of it that makes it cringe worthy than if it was somewhere else in the park, or like at a bar/restaurant party setting.


Ya totally lost me here, Steve-O

Ceetar
Jul 05 2019 01:11 PM
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=G-Fafif post_id=15133 time=1562348859 user_id=55]
Pete McCarthy, much-missed radio pregame host, said on the Metrospective podcast that he sat with T7L on Tuesday night and there was no “Brodie, Brodie” chant. At most, a couple of fans called out to him.



It's almost as if what the Post reports needs to be taken with a grain of salt.



I mean, Pete's great and all, and right, but he's not really an unbiased source in this regard, since he hosts a podcast with Darren? ;-)



I'm hearing the media themselves were playing lookie-loo from the top of the section and getting in people's way though.

G-Fafif
Jul 05 2019 01:15 PM
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Pete was just reporting what he saw and neither endorsed nor condemned the reaction to Van Wagenen, whatever it was.