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Wanna Feel Old?

Centerfield
Aug 14 2019 11:05 AM

For all the original board members.



This is Bryan Hoch.



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-URWz3uVJnfo/VOof5QMk80I/AAAAAAAAAUc/gtrI3otVhrg/s1600/bryan.jpeg>

kcmets
Aug 14 2019 11:15 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

See him on/in stuff every once and awhile. Looks good, for a Yankee fan.

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 14 2019 11:29 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

I wouldn't have recognized him if we were on the same elevator. Need a Weismann update NOW!!!!

Centerfield
Aug 14 2019 11:35 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

It's Professor Weissman to you pal.



https://www.rit.edu/computing/directory/jswics-jonathan-weissman

kcmets
Aug 14 2019 11:42 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Interesting that The Sheriff ended up in computing security. Back in the day before

broadband and firewalls he used to superimpose a grainy message on my screen some-

times if I was 'getting out of line' that said something like you're going to get banned if

you keep things up. Weird fuck, I have not one nice memory of him whatsoever.

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 14 2019 11:53 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

=kcmets post_id=18789 time=1565804537 user_id=53]
Interesting that The Sheriff ended up in computing security. Back in the day before

broadband and firewalls he used to superimpose a grainy message on my screen some-

times if I was 'getting out of line' that said something like you're going to get banned if

you keep things up. Weird fuck, I have not one nice memory of him whatsoever.



That's wild. Wonder if that was a feature in the old MOFO board. Gotta keep you rabble-rousers in line somehow.

Centerfield
Aug 14 2019 12:00 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

More.



https://www.linkedin.com/in/ambler-moss-77843a6/

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 14 2019 12:06 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?


More.



https://www.linkedin.com/in/ambler-moss-77843a6/


He looks different without the cowboy hat. I spoke with him on the phone once. Mets were playing the Dodgers, I'm guessing, and he was somewhere where he couldn't watch the game and this was pre-MLB on your phone days, so he asked for someone to call him with an update. So I called him and told him we were losing or whatever.

kcmets
Aug 14 2019 12:11 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?


More.



https://www.linkedin.com/in/ambler-moss-77843a6/


A couple of us are fb friends with Amblood. He's quite the travelling adventurer.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 14 2019 12:22 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Celebratory Slurpees all around

kcmets
Aug 14 2019 12:26 PM
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Is Rey Ordoñez Deathwatch still online somewhere? Definitely one of the top

4-5 Met online moments the last two decades.

TransMonk
Aug 14 2019 12:31 PM
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What a trip! I haven't thought about any of these peeps in years.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 14 2019 01:06 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Rey Ordonez Deathwatch was one of the best things I ever did, but it's long dead.



The best thing was the spontaneity. Ambler says "I wonder if there's a website counting down to the end of Ordonez' career" and thanks to his old character-actor publicity shots I built the web page in like 25 minutes and replied in the same thread.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 14 2019 01:16 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

My weirdest JSW memory was when he caught me in a sting operation to suss out people who didn't worship him. I think he gained control (with cooperation) of another user account them PMed asking for opinions on him. I said soemthing to the effect of I admiring the enthusaism but it came off as a lot of name dropping and not great perspective-- not really a criticism but an observation and later that evening got a JSW email SO YOU THINK I DROP NAMES AND HAVE NO PERSPECTIVE?

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 14 2019 01:23 PM
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Holy shit! He shoulda just superimposed an image on your screen "I KNOW WHAT YOU SAID YGEEBEE!"

kcmets
Aug 14 2019 01:28 PM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:
Rey Ordonez Deathwatch was one of the best things I ever did, but it's long dead.

I might have saved a copy; I'll look later when I can more conveniently get

on the ol' way-way-back server and look around.

Methead
Aug 14 2019 01:50 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

SHOW US THE PLAN

whippoorwill
Aug 14 2019 01:57 PM
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A Boy Named Seo wrote:

=kcmets post_id=18789 time=1565804537 user_id=53]
Interesting that The Sheriff ended up in computing security. Back in the day before

broadband and firewalls he used to superimpose a grainy message on my screen some-

times if I was 'getting out of line' that said something like you're going to get banned if

you keep things up. Weird fuck, I have not one nice memory of him whatsoever.


That's wild. Wonder if that was a feature in the old MOFO board. Gotta keep you rabble-rousers in line somehow.


Good god if he did that to you what did he do with the assholes?

41Forever
Aug 14 2019 02:03 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Is that the guy who wrote the Airstrip post?

Willets Point
Aug 14 2019 02:19 PM
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=kcmets post_id=18785 time=1565802941 user_id=53]
See him on/in stuff every once and awhile. Looks good, for a Yankee fan.



When & how did he become a Yankees fan? Or was he wolf in sheep's clothing the whole time?

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 14 2019 02:36 PM
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Nah he's a Mets fan but been beat-writing the MFYs at MLB.com for like a decade

Vic Sage
Aug 14 2019 02:38 PM
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really? that's THE ambler? He's not at all what i pictured.

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 14 2019 03:06 PM
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=Methead post_id=18809 time=1565812208 user_id=61]SHOW US THE PLAN



LOL

Frayed Knot
Aug 14 2019 03:46 PM
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Vic Sage wrote:

really? that's THE ambler? He's not at all what i pictured.


Well, he did have hair back in the day.

Methead
Aug 14 2019 03:53 PM
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Those headshots of his were classic.

Frayed Knot
Aug 14 2019 03:58 PM
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Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Aug 14 2019 04:05 PM


Is that the guy who wrote the Airstrip post?


Nah.

The guy at the top was something like 14 y/o (hence the "feel old?" subject) back when he started a NYM website which was attached to a fan forum (Mets Online FOrum) which eventually spawned this

place when much of this crew made a break for it after that one started to get overrun by too many teenagers (of all ages) and after too many disagreements turned into too many full out flame wars.

God help me but I did love it so.



The next guy mentioned (Weisman) kind of ran the place with a bias towards those he was friends with and against those with whom he wasn't. Most of us weren't. He's referenced in the 'Airstrip'

piece but that was written by a guy, 'Big Al', who'd pitched as high as AAA before arm injuries ended his dream ... or at least that's what he claimed. Could have been an actuary for all we know;

you know the definition of an actuary, right? ... someone too dull to be an accountant. 'Al' would only post occasionally but when he did it would often be with the flair of a noir fiction writer which

tended to make him a breath of fresh air in a sea otherwise full of angry screamers.



'Ambler' was the forum curmudgeon.

whippoorwill
Aug 14 2019 04:02 PM
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Couldn't stand Weismann



Also loved the flame wars!! Lotta laughs :D

Methead
Aug 14 2019 04:05 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

"The Airstrip" post was one of the only things I ever saved from the old MOFO. That and those poems YGB made out of joelmon's rants.

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 14 2019 04:16 PM
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Willets Point wrote:

=kcmets post_id=18785 time=1565802941 user_id=53]
See him on/in stuff every once and awhile. Looks good, for a Yankee fan.


When & how did he become a Yankees fan? Or was he wolf in sheep's clothing the whole time?



I didn't think he was a Yankees fan, I think that's just the job he got. Is that right?

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 14 2019 04:24 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

The Poetry of Joelmon:



THE BALLAD OF CUDDYER/JOHNOSN



He turned down Cuddyer/Johnosn

just as I thought he would

Horrible idea.

Cedeno will be cheaper next year and

can still help us if we get Giambi next season AND

we'd have Robin's replacement for 2003 and

Reed's replacement AND

save $ adn

be a BETTER team for years

Instead, lawton might = $ Reed in arbitrat



***



Here we go...





We Miss You, Dave



That's like going to your old boss

Who fired you

And doesn't want you at his picnic,

And you don't go,

And the employees are like

"So, why is dave not here?"



* * *



SMART LOGIC



But I tell that here and get chewed out,

It's called LOGIC,

He made a SMART business decision,

But it HURT our team.

Anybody that disagreed with me has YELLED at me

More than documented otherwise



* * *

Ode To A Run-On Sentence



Because if they feel they can compete like they did in the 2000 offseasn

when they saw the @#%$ crush their spirits

and did NOTHING to improve

with a full hearted 'win at all costs' attitude

that the @#%$ had,

then what makes us think fred,

who admitted he cannot profit til postseason,

would BLOW more $ for a team

that shows 'they can compete'

the way they are?



* * *

Challenge Me, Idiots



And to any idiot that asks why he's not a met,

you tell me how one legally joins a team without permission

when 4th day into free agency they do a press conference

to lock you out,

when it takes WEEKS to iron out a deal

Wake up and give me something, let's see QUOTES

Challenge me



* * *





On Courage



If they get destroyed,

it shatters that myth and can cost them $ in ticket sales



If they fight strong,

they can sit back and not invest as much.



* * *



She Sang A Sad, Angry Song



F you

You idiots never knew guys like me

When i went to shea in the early 90's

Mid 90's

And my grandma SANG at shea



And I knew of 'gen k' 2 years before

Some of you 'fans' knew of them

I support our farm

You never met me



* * *

Who Can You Trust?



Don't believe me.

Why not get Sele? What was our excuse?

He was told to be an innings guy,

Find the quote where sp said

"He is here due to his natural ability

to help us win a ring"





* * *

Life And How To Live It



don't address problems and solve them with a plan,

and come to terms with failure.

Insult hall of famers,

ignore your farm,

don't have a plan,

deny your problems,

panic,

and make quick fixes

and believe!



* * *

Now I Get It



It's BS or if it IS true, they have not confirmed it

Except for the invisible newspapers this clown listens to

Who is likely doing this due to the philly board



Why would I say that?

SAME POST



* * *

So This Is Christmas



oy, vey

Fans were jumping up and down like it was x-mas,

sorry kiddies,

mommy only got you underwear,

no Nintendo or new bike for you



* * *

Tied With Atlanta



And if it's $, you can't ask for Giambi,

he'll cost what arod would have asked for,

only texas offered $250m, the OWNER admitted it,

it was 2x atl's deal, which they would have had with a no trade clause, but they don't offer those to any atlanta based franchise tied with atlanta

Seriously, their GM and atl fans said so

$126m/7 years was the deal

How do you know? They NEVER talked $



* * *

It Was Reported More Than Once



Hey, i don't make this up

It was reported more than once,

Wilpon isn't stupid enough

To let sp spend more on a season

Where, even though the fans might believe,

mgmt isn't stupid,

like sp said,

they cannot profit til postseason,

so just put a freeze on spending

And reload next year.



* * *

Of That And They And Me



If that were available and they said no,

which would clear salary for giambi (Heh)

and give us a stud young left handed hitter,

my god, if we say no to that

(Not a real deal)

I'd shoot myself



* * *

To A Picklehead



I have fun

Kiss my ass

if you don't like how I talk or write you picklehead,

I care less.

Now email me

you dick



* * *

This Is A Business



this is a business.

Any player would say that,

And they do.



* * *

GREAT LOGIC



GO AHEAD, GOOD LUCK,

I'm SURE he'd say "GREAT IDEA,

I care about winning more than making $ on my investment

Where I poured in MILLIONS to PROFIT

(Business, get it?)

And owe $1/3 Billion

To make more over time with a cash cow stadium

I still CANNOT afford but DESIRE,

I paid this $ JUST to win, not profit,

GREAT LOGIC



* * *

I Talked About It



I showed one article fans ignored and goofed on,

I talked about lupica,

talked about espn confirming it,

talked about the owner

admitting arod didn't consider texas til the end,

even arod in his conference said that

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 14 2019 04:30 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

OMG To A Picklehead is fucking hilarious.

Methead
Aug 14 2019 04:33 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

OK, I have way more than that. A slight overlap in content but not much.

Frayed Knot
Aug 14 2019 04:33 PM
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A Boy Named Seo wrote:

Willets Point wrote:

=kcmets post_id=18785 time=1565802941 user_id=53]
See him on/in stuff every once and awhile. Looks good, for a Yankee fan.


When & how did he become a Yankees fan? Or was he wolf in sheep's clothing the whole time?


I didn't think he was a Yankees fan, I think that's just the job he got. Is that right?



Yup. He wanted to be a sportswriter and that's where MLB.com assigned him.

Don't know if they intentionally gave him the Yanx Because they weren't his childhood favorite, but that's what I'd do if I were them.

Last thing you'd want on your staff as a rookie writer is some goggle-eyed fan-boi looking to be the team's unofficial pr agent.

Methead
Aug 14 2019 04:44 PM
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They Have A Plan (Ode to the USA)



Are we headed to war?

NOt to be naieve,

This is as big of a declaration of war,

If that is what it is,

As there has ever been

From what I can imagine.



But if we blow a country up,

As many american's would suggest

Out of clear and understandable sadness and anger,

Who's to stop sympathizers

From trying to do the same to us?

These men are tacticians,

They want us to attack

And welcome it, I fear.

THey have a plan.



* * *

It Was Hicks



They don't offer a no trade, that's why the gm of atlanta felt

They would have had him otherwise

The $250m was HICKS.

If you guys READ him ADMIT THIS

We wouldn't have this conversation

But why let facts get in the way?



* * *

March Fred Called Him Bad Fit



Clearly wilpon REALLY wanted to spend the $

As clear by him REFUSING to pay larkin's extension request

sp admitting they would not for sheff,

Refusal to trdae for sosa

(march, fred called him bad fit)

SURE, it was arod who said "NO"

To us, of course

C'mon guys.



* * *

Go Tell Mike Lupica



But again, it's arod's fault

Let's BASH HIM

For calling US FIRST during free agency period.

And go tell LUPICA

He was imagining meeting arod in 98,

It's IMPOSSIBLE for a nyc born kid

To want to be a met.

Its' ALL an arod conspiracy



* * *

Grown Adult Businessmen



How many grown adults REALLY believe

That after the REFUSED

To pay for larkin and sheff's extension request

($20m/4 years)

Why do you IGNORE those facts?

Does it really anger you?



If so, maybe I can meet you in shea

And you can show me why it's worth the hell

To convince GROWN ADULTS how wilpon CHOSE to say no.

Do you think PIAZZA had the POWER

When he signed his deal?



Imagine if we won the ws 2 years in a row

And 99 had soldout alrady,

Would they REALLY run after piazza

JUST as strongly?

IF you think so, do not reply.

You are NOT aware of how grown adult businessmen work,

And you should be ashamed for not grasping this.

This is 4 year old level common sense.

Of COURSE they would not



* * *

Confrontation



arod was not about $

And you blame him for $250m

When the OWNER ADMITTED

He chose to overpay

Idiots.

You all 'ignore' this.

Why?

YOU DO NOT HAVE THE FACTS.

The OWNER knows MORE than you.

Dig?

Comprende?

Is this too compliated for some of you?



* * *

Eureka



I GET IT.

Yeah, WILPON was the VICTIM,

he's crying,

Tell that to PIAZZA

Who said he'd FLY HIm here.

He'd HIT you before he'd say

"Yeah, that arod is a meanie,

Boo hoo"



* * *

Cracker & Peas



What's scary is if one were gay (not him)

That is the PERFECT way, if they are a celebrity,

To silence any doubts,

A PLAYBOY model and have the duo publicized a lot

Per your quote, however, you state media showing him with this woman.

Wasn't Rock Hudson seen with women?

You need more than what the media shows,

You can PLAN what the media shows,

Never forget this.

I know celebreties don't.



Kinda like Colista Flockhart having that hotdog in her mouth

In the ws game

Right when the camera was pointed at her

Selling a fox show she does,

What better way to 'prove' she isn't barfing in the toilet every 2 hours after eating her cracker and peas?



I don't believe he's gay,

Nor care, but if he were,

What better way to remove any doubts

Than to publicize a relationship



With the pinnacle of heterosexuality,

Dating a ditzy big busted playboy model?



* * *

I Do Cheater



Yeah, believe SP

"WE are a better team than last year"

"I do" Cheater

"Met fans will witness the greatest comeback in history"

"We are not trading for Mike Piazza"

Wake up



****

Creepy Documenter



Would you like my address while you're at it?

God, you're creepy

Bash, insult, track old posts,

What's next. A knife and rope in at my door at 2pm?



And you guys bash me.

Go support wilpon,

I am sure he will save you from that big bully arod

And hug and kiss you from big bully joelmon



You idiots.

So I guess when sp said

They wouldn't pay sheff's extension

And 'within our business plan' referring

To how they will approach fa's,

That =

"We want to spend $18m+/year for 7 years"



Right?

Go stalk and attack somebody else

You freak

OR how about you DOCUMENT it was arod who's at fault.

No, just bash joelmon



* * *

The Last Word (Ode To YGB)



Yeah, keep collecting my archives you clown

Want my phone # and ss # while you're at it?

God, did I bully you as a kid?

Did arod kick your dog?

Did wilpon save you from a burning building?



You 'positive' fans are funny.

SO ANGRY

(!!!)

And so insulting

I am sure PIAZZA would be SO PROUD of you



Make fun of me all you want,

At least I am not stupid enough to think wilpon

Wanted to spend $ like george and know

Of their ADMITTED limited budget

And know not to bash those

Unless they treat me like dogshit



Be lime bill m or msmet,

Even if I don't always agree with them,

And was hard on bill earlier,

He's an ADULT and a decent PERSON



But I guess asking THAT from YOU GUYS

Is too much 'cause I have the NERVE

To challenge a BUSINESSMAN

On NOT wanting to blow $

On a blanket no trade clause

For $18m/year. RIIIIGHT

Sure he'll spend that on giambi.



When he doesn't,

You can make Volume 4,

Me telling you

To kiss my ass



* * *

This Awesome Trilogy Of Talent



You kidding?

Benny's a stud

Be glad we're the only team in baseball

Giving him that much time over guys like alex

And that we ignored juan gone.

I love also how lenny harris and mark johnson get more ab's than escobar this year, CLEARLY the majority of other teams would have done the same,

The stunning talent we have on display brings tears to my eyes.

Benny just completes

This awesome triliogy of talent that we have



Slow old white infielders with no power

Old broken down middle relievers

30 year old soft hitting outfielders

yummy



* * *

Bobby's Dream



Boy, I bet this is bobby v's wet dream,

This team

All bench bums

All the time

arod/abar/juan gone? HA!



We've got our bench bums, baby

You wait til they are one year older and slower

Christ, the whole outfield

Will be a bunch of soft hitting 30 year olds

Who can't steal,

Shoot me



* * *

“Nevermind”



C'mon, of COURSE that's why arod isn't here

and NO OTHER 5+ year player after piazza

That costs more than him



That's why he told sp

No long term contracts

As reported june 2000 in dailynews

I guess that was a conspiracy,

Nevermind



* * *

“Before Park”



Look, bonds = $

to make now before park



arod = damage such,

potentially without need,

as they made ws

piazza comes when we FAIL and lose $

bonds can come too in similar circumstances

giambi = less $ per year maybe

or =, but TOO MANY YEARS



owners HATE no trades

that's why atl refuses them

and ADMITTED it cost them arod

as did AROD



so yes, we WILL go after bonds, all 24+1 of him



and when we do,

go talk about how arod was greedy

and not us, guys



Assuming he wants to come to a team

that puts down hall of famers

and lies to their fans

"Will witness the greatest comeback in history"

"We are not conceding the season"

'We are not trading for piazza"



He'll come if they throw $,

but it'll prove arod was not to blame,

But his one true demand

No trade clause for 7 years



* * *

“I, Alarm Clock”



Sp was QUOTED by espn article (archives)

there were no CONTRACT demands

Ya think they back out like this with piazza?

No.

Why?

They didn't make $ and were losing it and needed seats to be sold

Wake up



Arod wasn't psychic

To see the FIRST meeting is the last,

You SET IT UP to make MORE than one,

of COURSE if they KNEW it was JUST one allowed,

They'd cut to the chase

Any owner in HISTORY you know of,

Or TEAM,

That put down MORE players than us?

All those that had demands/goals to make more than Piazza, no less

Wake up.



Even if arod's life DEPENDED on a 2nd meeting,

HOW can he?

It's OVER,

Fred AUTHORIZED IT

And SAID he felt it was unnaceptable.



Then again, it HAS to be

'cause he OWES $ for his park

And nelson, of COURSE he's not going to blow $18+m for a guy

When he JUST made the ws

Would you if you did NOT have to and were a businessman?



See mike piazza for PROOF

On how they do ANYTHING to get a guy IF they MUST



Hey, sp 'negotiated' with malone

when they wanted piazza for sheff.

That = PASSION

where was THAT with arod?



You can't blame arod

'cause even if boras asked for fred's SON AND stadium,

you can still say "Let's negotiate"

did arod put a GUN to their head?

No, grow up,

of COURSE if fred's life depended on it they negotiate,

but if arod's depends on it,

HOW does he get that 2nd meeting?

He calls fred at 2 am?

Wake up



You have NO POWER

When the OWNER SHUTS YOU OUT

And says it's fine.

Get it?

This is BUSINESS



Go support wilpon

Who takes your $ after a ws nightmare

And bash arod

Who wanted to come

And was a month before hicks admitted

he had to pay $200+ only

'cause arod never wanted to go

And to hope atl didn't change their mind

Atl's offer was $7/126

but he DEMANDED a no trade



Arod was HONEST

he ADMITTED

he demanded

THAT and good $,

but he said $18m is enough

and PROVED it



Boras is satan, not arod

when did WILPON PROVE his LOVE for arod?

Arod showed he wanted to come

by having US the first to talk to,

without DEMANDS,

as sp ADMITTED

Wake up



this is BUSINESS,

Of COURSE fred didn't feel he needed him like piazza,

He had a GUARANTEED year

Of sold tickets after a ws,

Wake up



You don't CALL WILPON

When he says no

And ask for HIS $

Or second chances



"Duh, if arod wanted the mets,

why not call wilpon"



"Hello, fred here.

Oh, hi arod,

Yes, I am in my 60's and a top notch businessman,

I am too stupid to determine

if my NO was serious.

Please, call me tomorrow and we can meet"

Wake up



***

You've Been Warned



You saw it in them

I bet you see it in him

And I warned about this with abar if he stayed in AAA too long

And all came true

Be more agressive

+ pressure to keep job

+ too conscious of mechanics and ab's

= DEATH



* * *

Fruits of the Loom



I am saying jay/timo/alex likely have better years in a yankee environment

Where you CAN fail,

Or atl. or Houston, where they SUPPORT you,

Not yell at you in your underwear

And or putdown your 'airmailings'

Like sp,

That adulterating scumbag

(Can juan gone pitch)



* * *

When The Lights Go Down In The City



It's in his head.

Laugh if it sounds funny, I assure you it is.

Pressure and fried psyche = death.

Just like this team in May

which was clear in San Francisco,

that's why I was sure

They'd likely never reach .500.

It's not talent,

It's upstairs in their heads.



* * *

Solving For X



It has to come from within,

a passion has to be there.

There's a reason the most passionate owner about winning shows it in his actions,

And the least passionate show the least actions.

What ACTIONS is he showing

Since signing his ticket seller (piazza)

To indicate he'll ONLY go after top teir guys,

Instead of sneak by?

When was the last time you heard him say

"WE MUST WIN THE DIVISION" or

"WHERE IS X PLAYER?





* * *

Emphesema



Like Arod

Sosa

sheff

Juan

Manny

Delgado

Oledurd

Hampton

trax being a 15 game winner (Wilpon said this)

I believe we are a better team" SP

Piazza does not like nyc"

"we have hundley, we will not trade for piazza"

They are never wrong or lie,

that's not how corporations work

Like the tobacco industry



* * *

The Invisible Newspapers



They are all at fault --

The players, their fault.

We did EVERYTHING to get them

This is documented by the invisible newspapers

that show him DEMANDING them at ALL COSTS



* * *

I Cry



If we can't get giambi, I try for Payton/Rusch/Strange/+ for Sean Casey.

The reds gm laughs at me and I cry as I have no 1st baseman.

Unless I move piazza and sign CJ as an fa since the park won't go thuogh,

he can opt out fun to dream.

Arod <> $115m payroll with SMART decision making.

This is a FACT



* * *



My World



In my world,

With what I SCREAMED FOR

There IS no robin now

And dham would have been traded during his peak of interest

As would cook/wendell

That's 8+3+2+3m in salary GONE = $16m,

Give or take

As my estimate on cook can be off





* * *



Life Is But A Dream



LOL, I erased it,

DAMN, it was to be a new topic lol

but that's cool

(I asked what should be a NEW topic as what would you/

(and for fun)

what would you think

piazza and the players would do/

think if we passed on Giambi

IF he were interested in coming)

I gotta ask it later in shorter form

too tired

bleh

thanks



* * *

Quandry



What if piazza asks for HIM

Like he did arod/sheff and gets nothing?

Would he eat babies and foam at the mouth?

Be a cool cali dude about it?

How would the fans react?

Sales be affected for viewing his team?

How would the players react?



We saw the LIFE they showed

When their balls were ripped out of them

With the great passion fred showed to improve the team.

Why, remember in march him whining

About his spring training stadium not profiting?

(No joke)

That wasn't about the $,

That was his way of trying to improve this offense at all costs



* * *

OK Point



Ok, POINT:

IF we pass on him,

How would you view mgmt,

And would you expect fans to catch on?

And how do you think it would affect the team?

If at all.



And how do you think Piazza would react?

How would YOU react?

They lost hamp/o no sheff/arod after SAYING he wanted them.

No Giambi too?

No Juan Gone?

LOL, that would SUCK for him





***

Yes Or No



Would you agree,

If you were the gm,

And assuming you get non 40 man roster cheap prospects in return,

Be willing to dump them

Paying 1/2 of their remaining salary?



* * *

Unhealthy Pressure



You need him to get PRESSURELESS at bats before we compete again,

otherwise he'd NEVER get his confidence,

always have unhealthy pressure

MOST teams NEVER give their rookies

all kids need to FAIL once



Of course not all kids signed

internationally make the majors in so few ab's,

but who cares about facts,

let's bash him like Grant Roberts



***

Nothing Special



not 'cause I am special,

I am a @#%$.

But because it's human nature.



* * *

Brilliance



He HAD his confidence and was doing WELL

and they told him to piss off, basically.

His 2nd stint only desi had more hits,

they NEVER gave him his shot

but ventura was allowed to hit .179 since june 1

and zeile have 1 homer and 4 rbi.

BRILLIANT, wonder why we fail with young kids

and never compete like our rivals



* * *



Live And Learn



I hope fans learn from this over time.

There is more to a player than stats.

To ignore the most basic part of human nature for any athlete,

to question themselves,

really is pathetic.







* * *

2 Months Ago If Not Longer



Well, at least I can say

2 months ago if not longer than that

I wanted him traded when his value was highest



Again, trade a player when their value is highest

If they are post peak

Branch ricky said it best,

By saying it's best

To trade them a year too early

Than a year too late







* * *

It's The Little Things



Well, let's all just be happy

no arod

no sheff

no juan gone

maybe no Giambi

but at least we got guys

with nice tushies

oy, vey



* * *



The Natural Pattern



Those who put down others

Offer the least in terms of intelligent discussion,

And are usually the least objective.

It's documented on every board.

Hey, maybe if management were objective like STTN,

We'd FIGHT for arod,

Force HIM to say no,

Force OLIE to say no,

And have the natural desire to OUTSPEND the yanks for GIambi



But that doesn't help as much as being happy

And goofing on others,

Why be objective?

Always, in life, ignore problems.

That's healthiest, right?

Attack, that's the natural pattern

Of the problem solvers and contributors of society,

Or in smaller sense, conversations

Go back to bed



***

Do You Want To Know A Secret



Some fans might not realize this,

as it never received a ton of press, however,

Sp has the right to promote himself at any time.

Wilpon granted him this priviledge earlier this season



* * *



Unbashable



I can bash it 'cause I never liked it lol.

Anyway, I don't doubt alex is bumming.

He realizes they have more faith this year in joe mac

as outfielder,

and he basically got a pair of teases for his dream

and now can't help his team

because he can't say he is doing his job

if he doens't hack



* * *

The Issue At Hand



Let him be more patient and fail and I'd be just fine.

Let him find some success with this method and I'd still be concerned.

Just not a good approach.



Forget alex for a second,

it's really the approach that bothers me.



* * *

1/4 2 K's Like Every Day



I'm not a big fan of 'be agressive' to say the least.

Has the k total and frustration

of not being where he felt he'd be (Shea)

getting to him, you think?

Just curious.

Time will fix the issues he has,

I was just curious.

And how did Seo look?



* * *

Cold Winter



And on top of that they are not making $ this year,

and we are hoping we can blow Giambi away

and if we don't,

we might not have a powerful offense for years,

as ajones in 2002 winter is too expensive,

we might never get vlad in 2003,

arod/bonds will be locked up,

alou/walker too old,

helton locked up.



I mean, there aren't a ton of options.

This team needs a PLAN to compete with florida.

Fans always laughed at atlanta and said "haha,

they will fall apart"



* * *

It Was Reported More Than Once



Hey, i don't make this up

It was reported more than once,

Wilpon isn't stupid enough

To let sp spend more on a season

Where, even though the fans might believe,

Mgmt isn't stupid,

Like sp said,

They cannot profit til postseason,

So just put a freeze on

Spending and reload next year.



* * *

Of That And They And Me



If that were available and they said no,

which would clear salary for giambi (Heh)

and give us a stud young left handed hitter,

my god, if we say no to that

(Not a real deal)

I'd shoot myself



* * *

To A Picklehead



I have fun

Kiss my ass if you don't like how I talk or write you picklehead,

I care less.

Now email me

you dick

whippoorwill
Aug 14 2019 04:54 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

A Boy Named Seo wrote:

OMG To A Picklehead is fucking hilarious.


I know, right?



‘Now email me , you dick'

whippoorwill
Aug 14 2019 04:59 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Cracker and peas Lololol



I know what I'll be doing tonight

whippoorwill
Aug 14 2019 04:59 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Thanks Johnny

kcmets
Aug 14 2019 05:53 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

I just quickly scrolled through all that and lolol...

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 14 2019 06:01 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Wow there were more of these than I remember.



I am a Creepy Documenter

whippoorwill
Aug 14 2019 06:32 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Lotsa memories here

MFS62
Aug 14 2019 07:10 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

He was also a member of a baseball board I originally posted on - I think it may have been FASTBALL or another Mets board (not your MOFO).

Later

Frayed Knot
Aug 14 2019 08:35 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Most of that stuff seems to be about 18 years old at this point (judging by the ARod/Giambi references). Incredible.



Some version of that forum still exists it looks like. I have no idea if any name we knew from then is still there now. Steven J.?

I haven't even visited there in many moons, even in the guise of the alter-ego I created a while after a 'cooling-off' period following the split.

My new character didn't post a lot but was active for a while. It was also a very disliked character, something which thrilled me to no end.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 14 2019 08:46 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Rogers hangs around there and gets Trumpy with the old school. Breaks my mighty heart

41Forever
Aug 15 2019 05:50 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Frayed Knot wrote:


Is that the guy who wrote the Airstrip post?


Nah.

The guy at the top was something like 14 y/o (hence the "feel old?" subject) back when he started a NYM website which was attached to a fan forum (Mets Online FOrum) which eventually spawned this

place when much of this crew made a break for it after that one started to get overrun by too many teenagers (of all ages) and after too many disagreements turned into too many full out flame wars.

God help me but I did love it so.



The next guy mentioned (Weisman) kind of ran the place with a bias towards those he was friends with and against those with whom he wasn't. Most of us weren't. He's referenced in the 'Airstrip'

piece but that was written by a guy, 'Big Al', who'd pitched as high as AAA before arm injuries ended his dream ... or at least that's what he claimed. Could have been an actuary for all we know;

you know the definition of an actuary, right? ... someone too dull to be an accountant. 'Al' would only post occasionally but when he did it would often be with the flair of a noir fiction writer which

tended to make him a breath of fresh air in a sea otherwise full of angry screamers.



'Ambler' was the forum curmudgeon.


This is good history! You should put it in the FAQ!

MFS62
Aug 15 2019 07:13 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

=MFS62 post_id=18846 time=1565831431 user_id=60]
He was also a member of a baseball board I originally posted on - I think it may have been FASTBALL or another Mets board (not your MOFO).

Later



That comment was about Hoch, not that Joelmon character, who I think started a forum called Mets Rant.

Later

stevejrogers
Aug 15 2019 08:02 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Rogers hangs around there and gets Trumpy with the old school. Breaks my mighty heart


It beats getting to told to fuck off, and that I should excommunicate myself from Catholic righty family members because of views that don't fall in complete lock

step with an SJW agenda.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 15 2019 08:04 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Part of the fun with Joelmon was that he never understood we were making fun of the way he wrote, not necessarily whatever it was he was trying to say. He was always convinced his critics disagreed with his point of view.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 15 2019 08:04 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?


Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Rogers hangs around there and gets Trumpy with the old school. Breaks my mighty heart


It beats getting to told to fuck off, and that I should excommunicate myself from Catholic righty family members because of views that don't fall in complete lock

step with an SJW agenda.


Fuck off, Rogers.



j/k

stevejrogers
Aug 15 2019 08:11 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:


Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Rogers hangs around there and gets Trumpy with the old school. Breaks my mighty heart


It beats getting to told to fuck off, and that I should excommunicate myself from Catholic righty family members because of views that don't fall in complete lock

step with an SJW agenda.


Fuck off, Rogers.



j/k


Gentrification rules ‘Bucket!



j/k ;)

Willets Point
Aug 15 2019 08:44 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Frayed Knot wrote:

A Boy Named Seo wrote:

Willets Point wrote:

=kcmets post_id=18785 time=1565802941 user_id=53]
See him on/in stuff every once and awhile. Looks good, for a Yankee fan.


When & how did he become a Yankees fan? Or was he wolf in sheep's clothing the whole time?


I didn't think he was a Yankees fan, I think that's just the job he got. Is that right?


Yup. He wanted to be a sportswriter and that's where MLB.com assigned him.

Don't know if they intentionally gave him the Yanx Because they weren't his childhood favorite, but that's what I'd do if I were them.

Last thing you'd want on your staff as a rookie writer is some goggle-eyed fan-boi looking to be the team's unofficial pr agent.


Didn't realize KC was joking here. Hadn't thought of Hoch/Weisman in a long, long time.

kcmets
Aug 15 2019 09:11 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:
Part of the fun with Joelmon was that he never understood we were making fun of the way he wrote, not necessarily whatever it was he was trying to say.

I just figured he smoked A LOT of angel dust.



Rogers a Trump guy? *removes sneaker and hurls it at his head*

kcmets
Aug 15 2019 09:12 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:
Part of the fun with Joelmon was that he never understood we were making fun of the way he wrote, not necessarily whatever it was he was trying to say.

I just figured he smoked A LOT of angel dust.



Rogers a Trump guy? *removes sneaker and hurls it at his head*

seawolf17
Aug 15 2019 09:40 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

=kcmets post_id=18919 time=1565881908 user_id=53]Rogers a Trump guy? *removes sneaker and hurls it at his head*



Yeah, shit. I didn't see that coming at all. Wow.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 15 2019 09:54 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Steve J. Rogers is a lost boy.



We must work to get him to fall in lock-step with SJW (I don't even know what that is, Single Jewish Woman?).



Cmon Rogers, denounce this awful regime and the awful people who support and enable it.

stevejrogers
Aug 15 2019 10:10 AM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?


Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:
Part of the fun with Joelmon was that he never understood we were making fun of the way he wrote, not necessarily whatever it was he was trying to say.

I just figured he smoked A LOT of angel dust.



Rogers a Trump guy? *removes sneaker and hurls it at his head*


Fuck it, just picture Austin Powers questioning Random Task's weapon of choice...honestly!?

Centerfield
Aug 15 2019 12:30 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Rogers? A Trump supporter? Say it ain't so Stevie.



(dies partially)

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 15 2019 12:57 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

=Centerfield post_id=18931 time=1565893813 user_id=65]
Rogers? A Trump supporter? Say it ain't so Stevie.



(dies partially)



Right? This is worse than a 3-game Mets losing streak

Edgy MD
Aug 15 2019 01:05 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?


Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Rogers hangs around there and gets Trumpy with the old school. Breaks my mighty heart


It beats getting to told to fuck off, and that I should excommunicate myself from Catholic righty family members because of views that don't fall in complete lock

step with an SJW agenda.


Well, personally, I would fuck off, but that's me.

stevejrogers
Aug 15 2019 01:49 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 15 2019 01:52 PM

Edgy MD wrote:


Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Rogers hangs around there and gets Trumpy with the old school. Breaks my mighty heart


It beats getting to told to fuck off, and that I should excommunicate myself from Catholic righty family members because of views that don't fall in complete lock

step with an SJW agenda.


Well, personally, I would fuck off, but that's me.


I failed, most spectacularly in fact, to read a room and got caught up trying to answer one too many loaded questions by trolls, even after I said I was stopping.



Fairly certain my righty affiliation is known here? Plus Namor has all that covered in these parts.

stevejrogers
Aug 15 2019 01:50 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

top ten games I've been to...

dgwphotography
Aug 15 2019 02:09 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

I still post there on occasion with my old captain's sign in.



Every time I see Bryan in one of his reports, I immediately remember the old MoFo picnic.

dgwphotography
Aug 15 2019 02:12 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?


It's Professor Weissman to you pal.



https://www.rit.edu/computing/directory/jswics-jonathan-weissman


Was never a fan of Weissman. The one time I met him, he seemed to like himself a little too much.



Met Ambler once at Shea when I was there with Kase ages ago.

Edgy MD
Aug 15 2019 02:15 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

By the by, it's Weissman's birthday.

Centerfield
Aug 15 2019 02:25 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?


Edgy MD wrote:


Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Rogers hangs around there and gets Trumpy with the old school. Breaks my mighty heart


It beats getting to told to fuck off, and that I should excommunicate myself from Catholic righty family members because of views that don't fall in complete lock

step with an SJW agenda.


Well, personally, I would fuck off, but that's me.


I failed, most spectacularly in fact, to read a room and got caught up trying to answer one too many loaded questions by trolls, even after I said I was stopping.



Fairly certain my righty affiliation is known here? Plus Namor has all that covered in these parts.


I understand being conservative or leaning right. Abortion is a very tough issue. I agree immigration laws need to be enforced. And I'm certainly not happy when I pay taxes. But to support this President. Man. I lose you there Steve.

Lefty Specialist
Aug 15 2019 02:30 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

Boy, I missed all this stuff. Although I was a regular on Metsrant for quite a while and got into it with Joelmon on more than a few occasions. I eventually drifted away from there as fewer and fewer people posted and came over here (thanks, Ron!).



Those poems/word salads are priceless, though.

stevejrogers
Aug 15 2019 02:33 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?



Edgy MD wrote:


Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Rogers hangs around there and gets Trumpy with the old school. Breaks my mighty heart


It beats getting to told to fuck off, and that I should excommunicate myself from Catholic righty family members because of views that don't fall in complete lock

step with an SJW agenda.


Well, personally, I would fuck off, but that's me.


I failed, most spectacularly in fact, to read a room and got caught up trying to answer one too many loaded questions by trolls, even after I said I was stopping.



Fairly certain my righty affiliation is known here? Plus Namor has all that covered in these parts.


I understand being conservative or leaning right. Abortion is a very tough issue. I agree immigration laws need to be enforced. And I'm certainly not happy when I pay taxes. But to support this President. Man. I lose you there Steve.


I don't actually support the Narcissistic Cheeto in Chief, ‘Bucket is reading too much into some posts where I go after biased opinions on anyone with an (R) next to the name where they'd treat a Dem with kid gloves.

Frayed Knot
Aug 15 2019 02:51 PM
Re: Wanna Feel Old?

I mostly stayed out of the non-baseball forum during my second stint there.

Talking baseball with those chuckleheads was enough of a chore.