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Frayed Knot
Oct 03 2019 02:10 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 03 2019 02:12 PM

And now the REAL part of the playoffs start.



Game 1, in Atlanta, the 97-65 Braves host the 91-71 Cardinals; 5:02 first pitch (or so they claim) on TBS with (I assume) the same trio as the WC game (Ernie Johnson, Jeff Francouer*, and our own Ronnie D.).

Mid-season import Dallas Keuchel [19 starts, 8-8, 3.75, 1.37] goes for Atlanta; Miles Mikolas [9-14, 4.16, 1.22] will wear the Birds on the Bat uni

Braves won 4 of 6 during the reg season



The Braves, for all their recent-ish history and their overall pain-in-the-ass-ed-ness to us, have won exactly ONE playoff series this century and even that one was so long ago that the team they

beat (in the first series of the first year of the century, NLDS 2001) is no longer part of the National League (swept Houston 3-0). They followed up that win with a loss to the eventual WS Champ

Diamondbacks in five games and since then have lost SEVEN** times in the opening (NLDS) round plus in their only time as part of the WC play-in game (to the Cards in 2012)







* Francouer has been doing Braves games on TV for just a short time (full time only this year I believe) but was somehow chosen as the replacement for Dennis Eckersley who had to drop out with some family issue

I wonder this makes Tom Glavine feels as, in addition to being the bigger name, he's also been in the ATL booth for a longer time than 'Frenchy'.











**2002 to the Giants 3-2

2003 to the Cubs 3-2

2004 to the Astros 3-2

2005 to the Astros 3-1

2010 to the Giants 3-1

2013 to the Dodgers 3-1

2018 to the Dodgers 3-1

Centerfield
Oct 03 2019 02:12 PM
Re: IST -- NLDS 2019 -- Braves & Cards

Two teams I hate. The one thing I'll root for is for Josh Donaldson to have a crazy good series, so that some team will give him a multi-year deal to leave Atlanta.

41Forever
Oct 03 2019 04:57 PM
Re: IST -- NLDS 2019 -- Braves & CardsA

Pulling for the Cards. Been to a number of games there over the years after going to college at Mizzou. I see them in spring training.



And, no tomahawk chop!

LWFS
Oct 03 2019 06:03 PM
Re: IST -- NLDS 2019 -- Braves & Cards

I'm rooting for, like, 40 oblique strains over the next week.

LWFS
Oct 03 2019 06:16 PM
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Nice at-bat from Carpenter to tie the game there.



Should Wong have run? It was a good throw by Duvall, but not, like, Cespedes/Bellinger-class or anything.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 03 2019 06:22 PM
Re: IST -- NLDS 2019 -- Braves & Cards

Crackerjack game happening here.



Ron's partner really screwed up the call by the way. First he called the hit as though it would be a foul, no hint it might fall fair or for a hit, then he neglected to mention that the tying run scored getting all caught up in the Wong play. Then he says we *remain* tied when it was just tied but hadn't said so.



I dunno if Wong should have run but he seemed to be arriving too late, thanks in part to the shitty call.

Centerfield
Oct 03 2019 07:05 PM
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Saw a Make Atlanta Great Again Sign.



As if I needed to hate them even more.

LWFS
Oct 03 2019 07:14 PM
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Suck it, Atlanta.



I guess I'm a situational St. Loo Boo.

kcmets
Oct 03 2019 07:23 PM
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I hope that plaid shirted guy behind home plate doing the double chop

every pitch finds his Lexus in the parking lot has three flats.

Centerfield
Oct 03 2019 07:48 PM
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=LWFS post_id=23716 time=1570151667 user_id=84]
Suck it, Atlanta.



I guess I'm a situational St. Loo Boo.



Right? Turned it on not expecting to have a strong rooting interest. Instantly became a Cardinals fan.

Methead
Oct 03 2019 07:55 PM
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I was rooting for the giant asteroid

G-Fafif
Oct 03 2019 07:56 PM
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Happier Braves lost than I am disdainful Cardinals won.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 03 2019 09:31 PM
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I'm a let the worse team lose kinda guy with this series.

MFS62
Oct 04 2019 05:02 AM
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I'm rooting for, like, 40 oblique strains over the next week.


The "greatest baseball fans in the world" against the most obnoxious.

Neither fanbase deserves diddly.

This series makes me want to fwow up.



Later

bmfc1
Oct 04 2019 06:22 AM
Re: IST -- NLDS 2019 -- Braves & Cards

Lots of talk about Acuna's base "running" in the 7th, which cost them a run (they lost by one) and his "styling" in the 9th after his HR (a solo HR which brought his team within 2). I'm sure that Cardinals fans are saying that this would never happen with their team.

G-Fafif
Oct 04 2019 05:56 PM
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Nobody is winning this series, which can be interpreted as they're both a bunch of bleeping losers.

Frayed Knot
Oct 06 2019 04:36 PM
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38 y/o Adam Wainwright, in what could be his final game as a StL Cardinal and even possibly as an ML'er, was one out short of getting through the 8th but will leave after 120 pitches

w/the bases loaded and two outs. 4 hits (all singles), 2 walks (final two batters), 8 Ks

In comes Andrew Miller to face FFF and ... Fly Out to CF to end the threat



Meanwhile, the much younger Mike Soroka went 7 with just 2 hits and no walks/7 Ks

1-0 Cards, heading for bottom 8

Frayed Knot
Oct 06 2019 05:06 PM
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Are they enforcing the mound visit limit in the post-season, because I'm pretty sure Molina has made like 17 trips to the mound in this game?

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 06 2019 05:15 PM
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Braves rallying here to spoil a shutout in the 9th.

Frayed Knot
Oct 06 2019 05:21 PM
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Carlos Martinez apparently remembered Acuna's HR trot from the other day, but he forgot to save the game.

Braves put up a 3-spot after 2 were out. 3-1 and now it's Melancon's turn to try and save it.

MFS62
Oct 06 2019 05:32 PM
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There's a certain sweetness about Wainwright being deprived a playoff victory.

Later

Frayed Knot
Oct 06 2019 06:24 PM
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I've decided that the key to these series where you have no rooting interest (or, perhaps more accurately, a couple of anti-rooting interests) is to simply root for a gut-punch loss by the home team.

Because if you're going to be denied happiness no matter what the outcome, at least you get to see pissed-off fans, crushed entitlements, and crying children, which is pretty much the next best thing.

MFS62
Oct 07 2019 04:55 AM
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Makes sense to me.

Later

Lefty Specialist
Oct 07 2019 02:13 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

I've decided that the key to these series where you have no rooting interest (or, perhaps more accurately, a couple of anti-rooting interests) is to simply root for a gut-punch loss by the home team.

Because if you're going to be denied happiness no matter what the outcome, at least you get to see pissed-off fans, crushed entitlements, and crying children, which is pretty much the next best thing.


I watched that 9th inning meltdown and even though I hate the Braves, the shell-shocked Cardinal fans and the church-quiet stadium were a thing of beauty.

Frayed Knot
Oct 07 2019 02:26 PM
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Ozuna just went deep for the second time in the game (Goldschmidt = 1) ... 3-1 Cards, bottom 4

G-Fafif
Oct 07 2019 03:17 PM
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Albies is testing that legendary Best Fans in Baseball sportsmanship.

kcmets
Oct 07 2019 03:53 PM
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Me venom for the Braves FAR outweighs any dislike (aka hat) that I have

for any other National League team.



Just thinking out loud, we now return you the IST.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 07 2019 05:11 PM
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We're seeing a lot of failure in this series. Love it

Frayed Knot
Oct 07 2019 05:15 PM
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Yadier tied it (bloop single in the 8th) and Yadier just won it (Sac Fly in the 10th).

Lefty Specialist
Oct 08 2019 12:08 PM
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Can Aaron Heilman pitch for the Braves in Game 5? Asking for a friend.

bmfc1
Oct 09 2019 02:32 PM
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On one hand, the Braves respect the wishes and comments of the Cardinals' pitcher of Native American heritage so they won't do the Tomahawk Chop while he is in the game. OTOH, they don't respect it enough to refrain from doing it the rest of the time.

https://twitter.com/markasaxon/status/1182021669709324290/photo/1

Gwreck
Oct 09 2019 02:45 PM
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Odds that the Atlanta fans do it anyway even if not prompted by the video board?

bmfc1
Oct 09 2019 02:57 PM
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=Gwreck post_id=24085 time=1570653916 user_id=56]
Odds that the Atlanta fans do it anyway even if not prompted by the video board?

100%

MFS62
Oct 09 2019 03:10 PM
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=Gwreck post_id=24085 time=1570653916 user_id=56]
Odds that the Atlanta fans do it anyway even if not prompted by the video board?



Where is General Sherman when the world needs him?

Later

Gwreck
Oct 09 2019 03:28 PM
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=bmfc1 post_id=24087 time=1570654622 user_id=73]
=Gwreck post_id=24085 time=1570653916 user_id=56]
Odds that the Atlanta fans do it anyway even if not prompted by the video board?

100%


10 run deficit in the first inning might actually call this prediction into question.

dgwphotography
Oct 09 2019 03:29 PM
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=MFS62 post_id=24088 time=1570655442 user_id=60]
=Gwreck post_id=24085 time=1570653916 user_id=56]
Odds that the Atlanta fans do it anyway even if not prompted by the video board?



Where is General Sherman when the world needs him?

Later


Judging by the first inning, he's wearing a Cardinals Uniform

kcmets
Oct 09 2019 03:41 PM
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Holy Cardinal Way, Batman!

Frayed Knot
Oct 09 2019 03:58 PM
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HOE! LEE! SHIT!



Joining this one via tape delay about a half-hour late ... and let's just say that was a less than optimal start for the home team.

Frayed Knot
Oct 09 2019 04:16 PM
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You know it's not your day when ...

- the other team makes defensive substitutions in the bottom of the 1st !!

- the opposing pitcher not only bats in the 1st inning but in the 2nd also [0 for 1 plus a bases-loaded walk]

- their leadoff guy is batting for a third time in the top of the 2nd

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 09 2019 04:26 PM
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This whole series has been about failures of the other team

Frayed Knot
Oct 09 2019 04:33 PM
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The Cards have hit two infield grounders with runners on base in potential GiDP situations -- both by Yadier!! -- and yet the Braves have turned those into ZERO outs.

One error by Freddie, one by Acuna.

Frayed Knot
Oct 09 2019 04:40 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

You know it's not your day when ...

- the other team makes defensive substitutions in the bottom of the 1st !!

- the opposing pitcher not only bats in the 1st inning but in the 2nd also [0 for 1 plus a bases-loaded walk]

- their leadoff guy is batting for a third time in the top of the 2nd


- You're on your fourth pitcher in the third inning

- the other team's pitcher (#9 slot) is batting for the third time before your #9 slot comes to the plate even once





13-0, bottom 3

LWFS
Oct 09 2019 04:55 PM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

This whole series has been about failures of the other team


And that's what's made it my favorite of these first-rounders, by far. This is exactly how the 2009 WS should have gone. #quiethomecrowds

Frayed Knot
Oct 09 2019 05:18 PM
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=bmfc1 post_id=24087 time=1570654622 user_id=73]
=Gwreck post_id=24085 time=1570653916 user_id=56]
Odds that the Atlanta fans do it anyway even if not prompted by the video board?

100%


After the Josh Donaldson HR (to make it 13-1) the fans were a-choppin'

MFS62
Oct 09 2019 05:27 PM
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Freddy F'n Freeman is hitting .158 for the series.

I hope someone in the Mets organization is recording how the Cards are pitching to him.

Later



OE: burn the tape.

ashie62
Oct 09 2019 06:13 PM
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St Louis made a defensive switch after the first inning, Matt Carpenter was shelved. Must be nice

Frayed Knot
Oct 09 2019 06:21 PM
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FFF has actually had a rough run of it since about September 1st (possibly due to an elbow problem); he had just 5 XBHs all month and only two singles in 10 ABs in the final series vs the Mets

So I don't think it's a matter of discovering how to pitch to him as much as it's catching him when he's off.







The game this one most reminds me of was one that the Cards were on the opposite side of: the Royals 11-0 win to close out the '85 World Series

Saberhagen went all the way on a 5-hitter while StL went through seven pitchers including John Tudor stinking up the start [5 ER in 2.1 IP] and Joaquin Andujar getting tossed out of the game

following an on-field meltdown over a 'Ball 4' call while relieving in the 5th

dinosaur jesus
Oct 09 2019 07:11 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

FFF has actually had a rough run of it since about September 1st (possibly due to an elbow problem); he had just 5 XBHs all month and only two singles in 10 ABs in the final series vs the Mets

So I don't think it's a matter of discovering how to pitch to him as much as it's catching him when he's off.







The game this one most reminds me of was one that the Cards were on the opposite side of: the Royals 11-0 win to close out the '85 World Series

Saberhagen went all the way on a 5-hitter while StL went through seven pitchers including John Tudor stinking up the start [5 ER in 2.1 IP] and Joaquin Andujar getting tossed out of the game

following an on-field meltdown over a 'Ball 4' call while relieving in the 5th


The Cardinals were still peeved about the Denkinger call the game before. I was on their side at that point; it was monstrous. But they lost my sympathy completely with that petulant bullshit in game 7. And they've never gotten it back.

bmfc1
Oct 09 2019 07:26 PM
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https://twitter.com/stlsportscntrl/status/1182095291572461568

kcmets
Oct 09 2019 07:56 PM
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Someone's gonna have a headache or three come morning...