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LTA: Yasmani Grandal

Ceetar Nov 04 2019 08:53 AM

Grandal opted out with the Brewers. He had another good year. Fangraphs media projection is 3/48. Ramos, the second best choice last offseason, did not have so good a year, and isn't nearly as good defensively, something the Mets clearly need. I'd give him the same deal. convert the 4th into an option year given the year older or something. Will more teams be in? maybe, but this is a really good fit for the Mets. The rumors and allusions to Ramos being a bad guy to pitch to are going to hurt his trade value, but taking the top guy off the board will help.

seawolf17 Nov 04 2019 09:18 AM Re: LTA: Yasmani Grandal

I'm okay with Grandal too. I think he fills a need. I like Ramos, and he hits and gets on base and doesn't strike out, but Grandal is appreciably better.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2019 09:30 AM Re: LTA: Yasmani Grandal

It's too bad they were too fucking cheap to get JT Realmuto. But whaddya expect? They won't even splurge for a manager and managers today, the top managers, could be had at bargain basement prices.

Centerfield Nov 04 2019 09:31 AM Re: LTA: Yasmani Grandal

=seawolf17 post_id=25921 time=1572884300 user_id=91] I'm okay with Grandal too. I think he fills a need. I like Ramos, and he hits and gets on base and doesn't strike out, but Grandal is appreciably better.

Helps in so many ways. But I would guess catcher is down the list of priorities, behind #2 starter, and bullpen help.

Ceetar Nov 04 2019 09:34 AM Re: LTA: Yasmani Grandal

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=25925 time=1572885047 user_id=68] It's too bad they were too fucking cheap to get JT Realmuto. But whaddya expect? They won't even splurge for a manager and managers today, the top managers, could be had at bargain basement prices.

Getting Realmuto was not realistic, the cost, the PLAYER cost was almost definitely too high.



And Carlos Beltran is probably better than all those sham 'top' managers. Fuck Girardi, useless bastard.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2019 10:00 AM Re: LTA: Yasmani Grandal

=Ceetar post_id=25927 time=1572885284 user_id=102] And Carlos Beltran is probably better than all those sham 'top' managers. Fuck Girardi, useless bastard.

And you know this because .......?

Ceetar Nov 04 2019 10:13 AM Re: LTA: Yasmani Grandal

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=25932 time=1572886840 user_id=68] =Ceetar post_id=25927 time=1572885284 user_id=102] And Carlos Beltran is probably better than all those sham 'top' managers. Fuck Girardi, useless bastard.

And you know this because .......?


20 years of observing him? An understanding of how baseball works, how little managers matter, and how skewed the perception of them is?

Centerfield Nov 04 2019 10:16 AM Re: LTA: Yasmani Grandal

He has no idea. None of us do.

Ceetar Nov 04 2019 10:21 AM Re: LTA: Yasmani Grandal

=Centerfield post_id=25936 time=1572887812 user_id=65] He has no idea. None of us do.

I mean, Brodie has an idea. Omar too. Their ability to work with the manager is probably priority #1 in choosing a manager. so like, the guy they chose is probably fine.

smg58 Nov 04 2019 10:50 AM Re: LTA: Yasmani Grandal

=Centerfield post_id=25926 time=1572885098 user_id=65] =seawolf17 post_id=25921 time=1572884300 user_id=91] I'm okay with Grandal too. I think he fills a need. I like Ramos, and he hits and gets on base and doesn't strike out, but Grandal is appreciably better.

Helps in so many ways. But I would guess catcher is down the list of priorities, behind #2 starter, and bullpen help.


Yes and yes. I'd be all in on a starter, and the pen can't be ignored, but upgrading defense in the outfield and at catcher (without killing the offense) would be nice too. A lot would depend on the trade market for Ramos. His game has weaknesses but he was far from terrible, and I don't think the Mets can afford to simply dump him or pay him $10M to be a reserve. Three and sixty would strike me as fair for Grandal, but I would not be inclined to go further for a catcher who just turned 31.