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IGT: 4/13/2006- Zambrano's Season Debut, Mets @ Nationals

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 12:15 PM

Mets going for the 3 game sweep, it'll be Victor Zambrano vs. Washington's opening day starter Livan Hernandez.

Also making a season debut for the Mets, C Ramon Castro.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 12:18 PM

I thought Diaz would get a start with the rest of the B-Team today. Woody 2nd? I'd have put Nady up there and moved the rest of the replacements to the end of the lineup. Why not Valentin at 2B instead of Woody against a righty?

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 12:23 PM

abogdan wrote:
I thought Diaz would get a start with the rest of the B-Team today. Woody 2nd? I'd have put Nady up there and moved the rest of the replacements to the end of the lineup. Why not Valentin at 2B instead of Woody against a righty?
Because Valentin sucks?

sharpie
Apr 13 2006 12:25 PM

Isn't this Woody's season debut?

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 12:26 PM

Mets v. Hernandez

Beltran: 27 AB, .766 OPS, 1 HR, 1 BB, 4 K
Castro: 11 AB, 1.000 OPS, 1 HR, 0 BB, 3 K
=orange]Delgado: 29 AB, .929 OPS, 3 HR, 4 BB, 5 K
=orange]Diaz: 10 AB, .955 OPS, 0 HR, 1 BB, 4 K
Floyd: 38 AB, .860 OPS, 1 HR, 7 BB, 4 K
LoDuca: 54 AB, .900 OPS, 2 HR, 5 BB, 5 K
=orange]Reyes: 32 AB, .803 OPS, 2 HR, 1 BB, 4 K, 1 SB
=blue]Woody: 12 AB, .417 OPS, 0 HR, 0 BB, 3 K
Wright: 25 AB, 1.269 OPS, 3 HR, 2 BB, 2 K

Nady's done well in 6 AB. It's a small sample size, but batting Woody second looks kind of retarded.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 12:29 PM

]Because Valentin sucks?


Unlike the offensive terror known as Chris Woodward. I understand getting Woody some work, but I'm just suggesting that it might make more sense to wait for there to be a lefty on the mound to do it. And it doesn't make much sense to bat him second.

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 12:30 PM

sharpie wrote:
Isn't this Woody's season debut?
He had a pinch hit AB vs. Florida.

vtmet
Apr 13 2006 12:33 PM

abogdan wrote:
]Because Valentin sucks?


Unlike the offensive terror known as Chris Woodward. I understand getting Woody some work, but I'm just suggesting that it might make more sense to wait for there to be a lefty on the mound to do it. And it doesn't make much sense to bat him second.


Based on the fact that last saturday, Willie used a similar lineup when he was going to rest LoDuca...I'm venturing a guess that Woody is Willie's designated #2 when Castro is catching, to avoid shaking up the lineup too much...

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 12:35 PM

abogdan wrote:
]Because Valentin sucks?


Unlike the offensive terror known as Chris Woodward. I understand getting Woody some work, but I'm just suggesting that it might make more sense to wait for there to be a lefty on the mound to do it. And it doesn't make much sense to bat him second.
I agree that Woodward shouldn't be batting second, but I like him in the lineup today. He hit .312 vs. RHP last season (.260 v. LHP). Valentin, OTOH, hit .316 v. LHP (in only 19 AB) last season and only .148 against RHP.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 12:39 PM

A better option is to bat Woodward (or Valentin) 7th and to move everyone else up one spot in the lineup.

But Willie would rather stick with his own dumb idea then admit that one that everyone else realizes is better.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 12:40 PM

I'm going to repost the lineups for posterity. If OlerudOwned ever removes that picture in his ImageShack account, or if ImageShack shuts down, we'll lose the lineups.

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 12:41 PM

Elster88 wrote:
I'm going to repost the lineups for posterity. If OlerudOwned ever removes that picture in his ImageShack account, or if ImageShack shuts down, we'll lose the lineups.
Good idea. Should I take the ones you post and move them up to the top in an edit?

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 12:43 PM

Either or, makes no difference to me.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 12:49 PM

Mets Nationals
AVGHRRBIAVGHRRBI
Reyes, JoseSS.33317Soriano, AlfonsoLF.27337
Woodward, Chris2B0/100Byrd, MarlonCF.33313
Beltran, CarlosCF.29228Vidro, Jose2B.350310
Delgado, Carlos1B.35725Guillen, JoseRF.21212
Wright, David3B.444210Johnson, Nick1B.26726
Floyd, CliffLF.18203Zimmerman, Ryan3B.23512
Nady, XavierRF.38512Schneider, BrianC.20700
Castro, RamonC0/000Jackson, DamianSS.25001
Zambrano, VictorP.00000Hernandez, LivanP.25001
(0-0)0.00(1-1)5.25

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 01:07 PM

Reyes pops out on the first pitch of the game.

Nats wearing red alternate unis. My eyes burn.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 01:08 PM

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 01:11 PM



Beltran likes hitting in RFK.

1-0 Mets

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 01:12 PM



Wright hits a 2-run homer. 3-0 good guys.

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 01:12 PM


Socked by Wright, a 2-run home run!

3-0 Mets on the bomb by MVP

duan
Apr 13 2006 01:12 PM

Beltran = ON FIRE

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 01:13 PM

Wow. Floyd makes it 4-0.

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 01:14 PM



Back-to-Back, Wright and Floyd.

4-0 Mets in the first.

This is rather fun.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 01:15 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2006 01:21 PM

Great Mets of the eighties, The Bobby is being bombed out like Dresden!

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 01:19 PM

I thought it was supposed to be HARD to hit a home run in Washington.

seawolf17
Apr 13 2006 01:20 PM

Rotblatt wrote:
I thought it was supposed to be HARD to hit a home run in Washington.

Not off this pitching staff.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 01:21 PM

The day begin's the party ends
He hesitates a while
There is this kiss he would not miss
He does it with a smile

Boom Boom!
Here they go again!
Boom Boom!

Boom Boom!
And my heart beats!
Boom Boom!

A helpful friend, oh what a friend
I look at him with thanks
He reaches deep into his coat
What has he in his hands?

Boom, Boom!
Here they go again!
Boom Boom!

Boom Boom!
And my heart beats!
Boom Boom!

The doorbell goes, and I don t know
Who outside may be
A high heeled shoe a naked leg
Does she come to me?

Boom Boom!
Immer wieder wieder
Boom Boom!

Boom Boom!
Und mein Herz klopft!
Boom Boom!

The satellite was out of sight
Radioactive though
!uite alright when it was high
But now it's very low

Boom Boom!
Immer wieder wieder
Boom Boom!

Boom Boom!
Und mein Herz klopft!
Boom Boom!

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 01:22 PM

seawolf17 wrote:
="Rotblatt"]I thought it was supposed to be HARD to hit a home run in Washington.

Not off this pitching staff.


Livan, at least, is a good pitcher.

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 01:24 PM

Well, Zambrnao mows em down, 1-2-3, throwing only 15 pitches in the process.

Nice.

seawolf17
Apr 13 2006 01:26 PM

Elster88 wrote:
="seawolf17"]
="Rotblatt"]I thought it was supposed to be HARD to hit a home run in Washington.

Not off this pitching staff.


Livan, at least, is a good pitcher.

Who allows a wacky number of hits every year, a decent number of which fly out of the park. (I know, he throws more innings than other teams' entire pitching staffs, so he's of course more likely to have a higher hits allowed total.)

metirish
Apr 13 2006 01:28 PM

Holy shit these Mets are amazin, but as M&MD like to keep saying, look who they are playing......I hate that shit...

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 01:28 PM

Floyd going yard is the most pleasing out of the three home runs. With Nady and LoDuca (presumably) coming back to earth, we need him to pick up the slack.

Beltran too, of course.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 01:30 PM

]With Chris Woodward batting, Jose Reyes caught stealing 2nd base, catcher Brian Schneider to first baseman Nick Johnson to second baseman Jose Vidro.


Jose picked off first by the catcher?

holychicken
Apr 13 2006 01:31 PM

metirish wrote:
Holy shit these Mets are amazin, but as M&MD like to keep saying, look who they are playing......I hate that shit...

No doubt that were gushing over the Yanks' come from behind win against the Royals in the home opener.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 01:31 PM

]look who they are playing


Agreed. But they do get to play these guys (and the Marlins) 38 games this season. If the Mets are going to be successful, they have to beat up these teams when they get the chance to do so.

Reyes stumbles on a steal attempt, gets caught stealing, onto the bottom of the 2nd still 4-0.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 01:36 PM

First two get on, but Zambrano induces a double play and a fly ball to get out of the inning. Still 4-0.

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 01:40 PM

]No doubt that were gushing over the Yanks' come from behind win against the Royals in the home opener.


Hah! That was a good one.

Still, Milwaukee & Atlanta will be much better tests for our revamped team than Florida or Washington.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 01:40 PM

31 pitches through 2. Not bad Victor.

7 innings, 105 pitches would be nice. A few more runs, let Julio or Bradford do mop up, save the bullpen.

Make it happen.

Diamond Dad
Apr 13 2006 01:40 PM
Zambrano induces double play

These are nice words -- Zambrano induces double play. I was worried he'd let them right back into the game. Gotta step on them when they're down. Make them start thinking ahead to having the night off tonight before their next series ( . . . Hmm . . where to eat dinner . . . wonder if that babe is free . . .)

Zambrano needs 5 good innings.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 01:41 PM



Delgado gets in on the fun after Beltran draws a walk. 6-0. Warm up the pen, Frank.

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 01:42 PM

I'm out of Boom images.

Delgado takes one out, a 2-run homer.

6-0 Mets

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 01:42 PM

Livan pitches around Beltran (according to Yahoo! Sports) and Delgado's at the plate.

Who promptly homers.

Jesus fucking Christ, I love our team.

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 01:44 PM

Lesson #1: Do Not Pitch to Beltran
Lesson #2: Do Not Pitch Around Beltran with Delgado on Deck

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 01:46 PM

Mets batters number threee, four, five and six have all homered, giving me three questions:

1) Have they ever done that before?

2) What's their record (six?) for KABOOM!!!s in a game?

3) Is Willie Randolph the greatest lineup-maker ever?

OK, two questions.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 01:46 PM

]I'm out of Boom images


I'm on page 6 of my google images search.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 01:47 PM

ESPN.com's Gamecast is completely revamped. Three thumbs up.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 01:48 PM

Is there a lamer radio contest than the "Triple Play Challenge"?

Gwreck
Apr 13 2006 01:50 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2006 01:52 PM

The record for Kabooms in a game is 7, which happened last year vs. Philly.

Edit: here's the details.
http://www.ultimatemets.com/gamedetail.php?gameno=6912

Bret Sabermetric
Apr 13 2006 01:51 PM

What a homer ass kissing eunuch EdColeman is. He just explained last inning how Beltran is having a good season because he seems SOOOOOOO much more relaxed this year than last year. What a fucking douchebag.

How relaxed did Carlos seem, Ed, last week, when he was whining about the boos, and bitching about the love he needed from those rotten stinking demanding fans? Relaxed? You couldn't have pulled a needle out of Beltran's asshole with an SUV, he was so angry and uptight last week. Was last week part of this season, or last season? I forget.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 01:53 PM

]when he was whining about the boos, and bitching about the love he needed from those rotten stinking demanding fans?


You're exaggerating.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 01:53 PM

Where has Howie Rose been? Eddie C has done most of the radiocasts so far.

seawolf17
Apr 13 2006 01:53 PM

I love this game.

seawolf17
Apr 13 2006 01:55 PM

Elster88 wrote:
]when he was whining about the boos, and bitching about the love he needed from those rotten stinking demanding fans?


You're exaggerating.

Eh, maybe not as much as usual. Willie Randolph addressed that on M&MD regarding the curtain call issue yesterday; he basically said that Beltran was upset at the fans with the boos, and that might have been the reason why he originally ignored the curtain call.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 01:55 PM

Is Elster's avatar broken on everybody else's screen?

Diamond Dad
Apr 13 2006 01:55 PM

Bret Sabermetric wrote:
You couldn't have pulled a needle out of Beltran's asshole with an SUV, he was so angry and uptight last week. Was last week part of this season, or last season? I forget.


Now THAT's a mental image!

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 01:57 PM

seawolf17 wrote:
="Elster88"]
]when he was whining about the boos, and bitching about the love he needed from those rotten stinking demanding fans?


You're exaggerating.

Eh, maybe not as much as usual. Willie Randolph addressed that on M&MD regarding the curtain call issue yesterday; he basically said that Beltran was upset at the fans with the boos, and that might have been the reason why he originally ignored the curtain call.


Maybe. I heard that too, didn't think Willie really made it seem like Beltran was overly upset. I may have misinterpreted it.

In that case, it's also possible that he got more relaxed over the past few days, and that is what Ed Coleman is remarking on. Either way, I'd cut Ed a little more slack.

Gwreck
Apr 13 2006 01:58 PM

Ok, so Beltran was pissed at the time. It was still an exaggeration. For what it's worth, going on the road and raking the last couple of games probably *is* somewhat relaxing.

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 13 2006 01:58 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
Is Elster's avatar broken on everybody else's screen?


For me it looks like his hyperlink isn't working. I'm seeing the HTML instead of the link itself, and it's expanding the box in which his personal information sits.

Bret Sabermetric
Apr 13 2006 01:59 PM

Elster88 wrote:
Either way, I'd cut Ed a little more slack.
I'm sure you would.

Bret Sabermetric
Apr 13 2006 02:01 PM

Gwreck wrote:
It was still an exaggeration.


"It" being Coleman's eunuch-like characterization of Carlos' state of Zen master-like relaxation as belonging to "this season," correct?

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 02:05 PM

Well, Sal, while they were happening, Gary & Keith DID talk extensively about the boo's, how they were affecting Beltran, and how stupid Beltran was to not want to give them their curtain call.

They also noted how Beltran started to turn the corner with the fans after the home run in game 3. In games 4 & 5, it seemed like a number of fans "went out of their way" (Gary's words) to cheer Beltran. That was my perception as well.

So anyway, it's not like Gary & Keith have been ignoring the booing or excusing Beltran's reaction to it. But for the moment, both he and the fans seem to have moved passed it.

And from what I saw of yesterday's game, he sure as hell looked more comfortable than he did at any point last year.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 02:06 PM

Im having a whole lot of trouble fixing it. So get him to post 6650 fast.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 02:07 PM

Two run single for Zimmerman and Zambrano has an ERA.

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 02:08 PM

And meanwhile, Zambrano is slowly imploding.

Ah, Carlos, how I've missed you.

- J. Vidro walked
- J. Guillen flied out to deep center
- N. Johnson doubled to left, J. Vidro to third
- R. Zimmerman singled to right center, N. Johnson and J. Vidro scored

Bret Sabermetric
Apr 13 2006 02:12 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2006 02:13 PM

I didn't accuse Gary and Ketih of being homers, douchebags, or asskissers, did I? This is a great technique. If I point out how X is screwing up, contradict me by pointing out how.Z, and M have not screwed up at all.

There's a Zambrano meltdown alert in progress now, according to the National Weather Service. Watch out for high velocity objects flying around Washington DC.

Mets 6, Nats 2.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 02:13 PM

Bret Sabermetric wrote:
="Elster88"]Either way, I'd cut Ed a little more slack.
I'm sure you would.


Allow me to respond in kind:

I'm sure you'll take any innocuous statement of Ed's (which is completely true) and write an unnecessarily hostile, three-paragraph diatribe while your blood pressure rises to dangerous levels.

And you just got done complaining about people ripping into the Mushnick article in the exact same manner. It's amazing what a hypocrite you are. Shocking, really.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 02:15 PM

No further damage. Let's score some more.

Bret Sabermetric
Apr 13 2006 02:16 PM

Elster88 wrote:
any innocuous statement of Ed's (which is completely true) .

Except it's false. To characterize Beltran as being notably relaxed "this season" is either to be clueless, inattentive, a lying nosepicker, or blind. if he would have said "this week," I would have agreed.

What you also don't get, Elster, is that my cardiologist recommends venting on the Mets to ease my blood pressure. My posts are all done under careful medical supervision.

MFS62
Apr 13 2006 02:19 PM

Will somebody please help Elster?

Back to the game. Nick Johnson is a real pain in the rosy red rectum.

Later

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 02:19 PM

An RBI double for Floyd, good to see him hitting finally.

7-2 Mets

Johnny Dickshot
Apr 13 2006 02:21 PM

Gotta like how Frank "Old Skool" Robinson seems determined to just leave Livan in there to absorb the beating he's taking. He'll come out after 30 runs of 120 pitches, whichever comes first.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 02:21 PM

What's more fun than two people engaging in a pointless argument on a message board? When one of their avatars is so screwed up that it makes the entire thread practically unreadable. Thanks.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 02:22 PM

Bret Sabermetric wrote:
="Elster88"] any innocuous statement of Ed's (which is completely true) .

Except it's false. To characterize Beltran as being notably relaxed "this season" is either to be clueless, inattentive, a lying nosepicker, or blind. if he would have said "this week," I would have agreed.


Or maybe he just misspoke? He could be a truthful nosepicker.

]What you also don't get, Elster, is that my cardiologist recommends venting on the Mets to ease my blood pressure. My posts are all done under careful medical supervision.

In that case, you must have the heart rate of a champion marathon runner. If it keeps you healthy, god bless.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 02:23 PM

It's not like Robinson has any better options in the bullpen. I'd leave Hernandez out there instead of brining in whoever the Nationals' long reliever is.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 02:23 PM

abogdan wrote:
What's more fun than two people engaging in a pointless argument on a message board? When one of their avatars is so screwed up that it makes the entire thread practically unreadable. Thanks.


There's no such thing as a pointless argument on a message board.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 02:24 PM

After about 100 attempts and gallons of plasma, I've surgically removed Elster's avatar.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 02:25 PM

Cliff Floyd doubled in a run. What a wimp!

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 02:28 PM

Bret Sabermetric wrote:
I didn't accuse Gary and Ketih of being homers, douchebags, or asskissers, did I? This is a great technique. If I point out how X is screwing up, contradict me by pointing out how.Z, and M have not screwed up at all.


You're right--I read your post as TV--"Gary & Keith"--and not radio. My bad.

I therefore have nothing to contribute as I haven't listened to the radio at all this season (thank you, SNY!).

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 02:28 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
After about 100 attempts and gallons of plasma, I've surgically removed Elster's avatar.


Hubie Brooks' avatar.

metirish
Apr 13 2006 02:28 PM

Getting Cliff going is magic, this time last year he was the Mets offence, now he can relax and find his stroke.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 02:32 PM

The funny thing about hanging Livan out to dry is that homers allow you to give up seven runs on far fewer pitches than walks and doubles, so his pitch count isn't far off what Zambrano's is.

Checking: Zambo is leading, 83-76 with one-third fewrer innings.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 02:35 PM

Did Ramon Castro really just beat out an infield grounder to first base?

Bret Sabermetric
Apr 13 2006 02:36 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2006 02:39 PM

Elster88 wrote:
Or maybe he just misspoke? He could be a truthful nosepicker.


Yes, any fact contrary to reality as expressed by Ed Coleman on the air as true should be attributed to the malfunction of his mouth, despite his best intentions. This explains a lot.

Except the part about what such an incompetent eunuch is doing speaking for a living. Is your defense really going to be "Your honor, my client doesn't know what he's saying. All sorts of crap spews from his mouth all the time. He can't help it."?


The part I found particularly persuasive is the part where Coleman's verbal farts are about 50/50 between statements that serve the Mets' PR relations ("Carlos is so cool, so fan friendly, so completely sweet and good-natured") and those that give the Mets bad PR ("Carlos is a petulant, over-reacting, moody brat who can't take criticism.")


Woodward knocks Reyes in, 8-3

Gwreck
Apr 13 2006 02:38 PM

abogdan wrote:
Did Ramon Castro really just beat out an infield grounder to first base?


Scored an error. :)

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 02:39 PM

abogdan wrote:
Did Ramon Castro really just beat out an infield grounder to first base?


Top 6TH B:0 S:1 O:0
Ramon Castro reaches on missed catch error by pitcher Livan Hernandez, assist to first baseman Nick Johnson.

An assist with no put-out. Nice.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 02:40 PM

Bret Sabermetric wrote:
="Elster88"]Or maybe he just misspoke? He could be a truthful nosepicker.


Yes, any fact contrary to reality as expressed by Ed Coleman on the air as true should be attributed to the malfunction of his mouth, despite his best intentions. This explains a lot.

Except the part about what such an incompetent eunuch is doing speaking for a living. Is your defense really going to be "Your honor, my client doesn't know what he's saying. All sorts of crap spews from his mouth all the time. He can't help it."?


The change from the word "season" to "week" is not nearly significant as you are making it out to be.

Bret Sabermetric
Apr 13 2006 02:41 PM

Elster88 wrote:
The change from the word "season" to "week" is not nearly significant as you are making it out to be.

Yes, "Beltran hit 2 HRs this week" means just about the same as "Beltran hit 2 HRs this season." Same difference.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 02:41 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2006 02:42 PM

Woody singles in Reyes!

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 02:41 PM

Well, whaddya know. Willie's a genius after all.

Reyes reached on a fielder's choice, then stole 2nd with two outs, and Woody singled him home.

8-3 Mets.

seawolf17
Apr 13 2006 02:42 PM

There's magic in the air this season, isn't there?

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 02:44 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2006 02:48 PM

Bret Sabermetric wrote:
="Elster88"]The change from the word "season" to "week" is not nearly significant as you are making it out to be.

Yes, "Beltran hit 2 HRs this week" means just about the same as "Beltran hit 2 HRs this season." Same difference.


You refuse to give this up don't you?

Saying "Beltran looks relaxed this season" instead of saying "Beltran looks relaxed this week" when the season is 10 days old is not that big a change. To argue otherwise makes you look incredibly stupid.

I'm just the messenger here.

NOTE: I'm assuming a high SC in the quoted statement of yours.

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 02:45 PM

Call it a day for Victor--Oliver in to relieve.

Zambrano:
5 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 4 BB, 3 K

Diamond Dad
Apr 13 2006 02:48 PM
Oliver strikes out the side!

Oliver strikes out the side! Wow. I guess that's why he made the team.

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 02:48 PM

And Oliver looks pretty good from the box score:

Schneider down swinging
D. Jackson down looking
Watson down swinging.

Sweet.

Diamond Dad
Apr 13 2006 02:49 PM

4 inning save, anyone???

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 02:49 PM

What's our current middle relief depth chart, assuming everyone is rested?

Sanchez
Heilman
Oliver
Bradford
Julio

???

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 02:51 PM

Wow, go Oliver.
I won't be bitter about Feliciano to AAA any more.

Gwreck
Apr 13 2006 02:52 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2006 02:52 PM

I think you flip Bradford and Oliver, Heilman and Sanchez.

I agree with DD, I think smart move is to try to get a few innings from Oliver. Unless it's deemed Julio time...

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 02:52 PM

Elster88 wrote:
What's our current middle relief depth chart, assuming everyone is rested?

Sanchez
Heilman
Oliver
Bradford
Julio

???


I think Heilman's the top set-up guy, followed by Sanchez. Willie seems to be using Bradford as a ROOGIE/guy to use when a DP is needed. After that, I guess it's Oliver, then Julio?

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 02:54 PM

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 02:55 PM

I'm liking ESPN Gamecast. There's a scrolling stat window. After Wright went to an 0-1 count, it gave me his career stats when the count is 0-1, then his stats against Washington this month, then his stats against LHP this year, then his career stats against Eischen.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 02:55 PM

Floyd is 4-14 (.286) with 0 HR, 2BB and 6K against Eischen.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 02:57 PM

]Schneider down swinging
D. Jackson down looking
Watson down swinging.
Of course, this isn't Murderer's Row. It's not even Mur-diddly-urderer's Row.

But go, Oliver. Kind of wreckless to burn your sole lefty for two days though with a four-inning stint.

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 02:57 PM

Elster88 wrote:
Floyd is 4-14 (.286) with 0 HR, 2BB and 6K against Eischen.
7 K

HahnSolo
Apr 13 2006 02:58 PM

Wow, Darren Oliver. Surprise, surprise.

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 03:00 PM

If Oliver collects a hit with the bases loaded, are we in official "Laugher" territory?

Gwreck
Apr 13 2006 03:00 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
But go, Oliver. Kind of wreckless to burn your sole lefty for two days though with a four-inning stint.


There is the Heilman factor to consider and his effectiveness in getting LHers out. I thought part of Oliver's role in the pen was to be the long man too...4 inning save here to keep rest of bullpen rested wouldn't be the worst thing in the world...

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 03:02 PM

Oliver with a 2-run single!

Hahaha

Gwreck
Apr 13 2006 03:02 PM

OlerudOwned wrote:
If Oliver collects a hit with the bases loaded, are we in official "Laugher" territory?


Very prescient.

Diamond Dad
Apr 13 2006 03:02 PM
Oliver hits!!

Oliver trying to rack up some Schaeffer points!!

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 03:03 PM

I'd pinch hit for him. Fuck it, we've got a 5 run lead already. If our PH'er does nothing, we can still use Bradford & Julio. If we get into trouble, we've still got one of Heilman & Sanchez.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:03 PM

Nah.

2 for Oliver. 2 for Julio.

Especially now that we're up 7.

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 03:04 PM

Wow.

Well, ignore my last post.

Willie, once again, proving that he's a genius.

Gwreck
Apr 13 2006 03:04 PM

Time to clear the bench -- get Floyd, Delgado, Beltran out of the game.

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 03:05 PM

RBI Double for Reyes.

Woodward drives in 2 more with a single.

13-3 Mets/

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 03:05 PM

]There is the Heilman factor to consider and his effectiveness in getting LHers out. I thought part of Oliver's role in the pen was to be the long man too...4 inning save here to keep rest of bullpen rested wouldn't be the worst thing in the world...

That's the other side. I'm not sure what Willie sees him as --- situational lefty or innings-eating long man. Let's do it this way: If he burns Oliver, let's attack Willie for wasting his situational lefty. If he pulls him after two innings, we can attack him wasting a higher-ranked pitcher and not letting his long man stretch it out.

It's win-win.

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 03:06 PM

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:06 PM
Edited 4 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2006 03:11 PM

If there was a mercy rule, I think the Nats would accept it at this point.

Last year we gave Arizona a thorough beating and returned to Shea to lose an important series to Philly.

Let's not do that again.

5 runs on 5 hits and 2 walks (1 intentional)

Top 7TH B:0 S:0 O:0
Pitcher Change: Joey Eischen replaces Livan Hernandez, batting 9th.

Top 7TH B:1 S:3 O:1
Carlos Delgado strikes out swinging.

Top 7TH B:0 S:2 O:1
David Wright singles on a soft line drive to center fielder Marlon Byrd.

Top 7TH B:3 S:3 O:2
Cliff Floyd strikes out swinging.

Top 7TH B:2 S:0 O:2
Xavier Nady singles on a ground ball to center fielder Marlon Byrd. David Wright to 3rd.

Top 7TH B:4 S:0 O:2
Joey Eischen intentionally walks Ramon Castro. Xavier Nady to 2nd.

Top 7TH B:1 S:0 O:2
Darren Oliver singles on a ground ball to center fielder Marlon Byrd. David Wright scores. Xavier Nady scores. Ramon Castro to 2nd.

Top 7TH B:2 S:1 O:2
Jose Reyes doubles (3) on a line drive to center fielder Marlon Byrd. Ramon Castro scores. Darren Oliver to 3rd.

Top 7TH B:0 S:0 O:2
Chris Woodward singles on a ground ball to center fielder Marlon Byrd. Darren Oliver scores. Jose Reyes scores.


Top 7TH B:4 S:2 O:2
Carlos Beltran walks. Chris Woodward to 2nd.

Top 7TH B:1 S:0 O:3
Carlos Delgado grounds out, second baseman Jose Vidro to first baseman Nick Johnson.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 03:06 PM

]get Floyd, Delgado, Beltran out of the game.


And anybody else DC might feel like plunking. Wright please.

Gwreck
Apr 13 2006 03:08 PM

I don't think we have enough subs to do that. Can LoDuca play 3rd?

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 03:08 PM

Maybe it's time for Washington to pull Joey Eischen.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 03:08 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2006 03:10 PM

Hey, this might mark the 2006 debut of Julio Franco's glove.

OK, I'm calling it: Diaz to right, Nady to third, Chavez to left, and Franco to first. Sorry, Beltran, we've already burned Valentin.

Iubitul
Apr 13 2006 03:09 PM

We may need 20 points for this POG list...

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 03:09 PM

Gwreck
Apr 13 2006 03:11 PM

I'd do Diaz to Left, Chavez to Center, Franco to 1st, Woodward to 3rd, Hernandez to 2nd.

metirish
Apr 13 2006 03:12 PM

HUH...?

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 03:20 PM


Gameplanning for Rauch

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:20 PM

Eischen's ERA is 19.29 on the year.

Johnny Dickshot
Apr 13 2006 03:22 PM

I hate work.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 03:22 PM

]HUH...?


Speculating on how to empty the bench on a blowout --- a fun pasttime.

holychicken
Apr 13 2006 03:23 PM

Oh shit!

Thanks for reminding me that I am actually at work.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:23 PM

Wright's up. Cross your fingers.

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 13 2006 03:23 PM

I want Wagner to pitch the ninth.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 03:24 PM

OK, 10 run lead, two innings left, now it's really time to empty the bench.

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 03:26 PM

]I want Wagner to pitch the ninth.


Julio is in for the 8th, so you might get your wish.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:26 PM

Let's get this over with and get them back to New York. Nice rest tonight before Milwaukee and Atlanta and a west coast swing.

seawolf17
Apr 13 2006 03:27 PM

Wow, Elster's right... the ESPN GameCast is way better. They totally f'ed it up last year, so I got addicted to the Sportsline version; but this one's neat. Looks like they rebuilt it from scratch; very fancy.

Willets Point
Apr 13 2006 03:28 PM

It looks like we've got ourselves an old-fashioned ass-whuppin'!

Hillbilly
Apr 13 2006 03:28 PM

Hopeful Julio will start to turn things around.

martin
Apr 13 2006 03:28 PM

ooh 97. i know i am supposed to get excited about real pitching, control, speed changing, that sort of thing, but still, 97+ still impresses me.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:29 PM

seawolf17 wrote:
Wow, Elster's right... the ESPN GameCast is way better. They totally f'ed it up last year, so I got addicted to the Sportsline version; but this one's neat. Looks like they rebuilt it from scratch; very fancy.

The upper right corner says it's the Beta and there's a button for feedback right below. I left them some nice feedback.

It even shows the path of the ball with each ball in play. Cute.

holychicken
Apr 13 2006 03:30 PM

Hillbilly wrote:
Hopeful Julio will start to turn things around.

No no. I really think he continues with the general flow of this game. We don't want him turning anything around in this position.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:31 PM

Hernandez in at second, Woody to first, Delgado out. Victor in at left, Floyd out.

Our two young stallions still in.

vtmet
Apr 13 2006 03:32 PM

I was never real keen on Oliver making the team over Feliciano, but after Oliver's hit, I looked up his hitting stats...eventhough I think of him as more of an AL pitcher than NL pitcher, he's got a .228 career batting average with 2 seasons of having 17+ hits ('99 had 20 hits with 4 extra basehits; '03 had 17 hits with 3 doubles and a HR)...he can do long relief, can spot start, can swing a bat...he's kind of a LOOGY version of Pat Mahomes...

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 03:32 PM

We needed a blowout.

This is good.

Woody at 1st, Hernandez at 2nd, Diaz in Left.

Hillbilly
Apr 13 2006 03:32 PM

Julio continues to struggle. Nick Johnson takes him deep.

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 03:32 PM

martin wrote:
ooh 97. i know i am supposed to get excited about real pitching, control, speed changing, that sort of thing, but still, 97+ still impresses me.
the one Johnson just hit out probably went faster off the bat.

Free Heath Bell

MFS62
Apr 13 2006 03:35 PM

Read back a few pages in this thread. I told you Johnson was a pain.
I haven't liked him since he was a Yankee.

Later

abogdan
Apr 13 2006 03:35 PM

No love for Franco? Move Woody to 3B or SS and give Franco an inning at 1B.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 03:37 PM

I mean, rilly.

Ho, hum, way things are swinging, maybe Franco is pitching the ninth.

Jorge is definitely looking to launch Operation Extended Spring Training.

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 03:38 PM

Well, Julio gives up 2 extra base hits, but also doesn't walk anyone, strikes out 2, and only gives up 1 run.

Julio's # of runs allowed/Appearance
1. 5
2. 2
3. 1

It's progress, right?

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:39 PM

EDIT: Beat me to it.

Hillbilly
Apr 13 2006 03:39 PM

Let Julio pitch the 9th. He'll make it through.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:41 PM

Good IGT today, fellas.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2006 03:42 PM

And the Hillbilly cried "Mercy for the fat man!"

Tell me that doesn't sound like a Creedence lyric.

sharpie
Apr 13 2006 03:45 PM

The Dodgers, White Sox and Mets have all scored 13 runs today, all as visitors.

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 03:46 PM

Duaner Sanchez in to end this thing.

vtmet
Apr 13 2006 03:47 PM

sharpie wrote:
The Dodgers, White Sox and Mets have all scored 13 runs today, all as visitors.


Apparently, it's not a good thing to be a home team on Thursday the 13th...

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:50 PM

At this point I think Willie is just doing this to be a prick.

"What boneheaded move can I do today with the bullpen to pick a fight with the media?"



Duaner on for the ninth.

holychicken
Apr 13 2006 03:50 PM

The names on the ESPN gamecast really should move under the animation of the flying ball.

"JESUS! Why the hell is Chavez just standing there!!! You gotta get under that ball!"

It's freakin me out.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:51 PM

GameCast is cool though, right?

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:51 PM

E-6. Dammit, Jose, it's hot out here.

Bret Sabermetric
Apr 13 2006 03:51 PM

Elster88 wrote:
Good IGT today, fellas.


Glad you enjoyed it, Elster. I'll try to repeat my part for your future IGT pleasure.

Duaner Sanchez closes it out. How Sweep It is.

Hillbilly
Apr 13 2006 03:52 PM
Six in a row!

OlerudOwned
Apr 13 2006 03:52 PM

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:54 PM

Sweepage.

All right, bring on the major league teams.

MFS62
Apr 13 2006 03:54 PM

Bringing in Sanchez was a good decision by Willie.
It was only a 9 run lead. I wouldn't have trusted Julio with that lead either.

Later

A Boy Named Seo
Apr 13 2006 03:54 PM

Anybody else think that Marlon Byrd elbow to Woody's back on the Reyes error was kind of an unnecessary dick move?

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:55 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2006 03:55 PM

Bret Sabermetric wrote:
="Elster88"]Good IGT today, fellas.


Glad you enjoyed it, Elster. I'll try to repeat my part for your future IGT pleasure.

Duaner Sanchez closes it out. How Sweep It is.


Believe it or not, I enjoy the back and forth with you Bret. Except for the parts where I go insane.

You never got back to me on my last post directed to you.

Frayed Knot
Apr 13 2006 03:55 PM

Only the Yanquis could be in a 6-2 game (4-2 until a minute ago) which is taking considerably longer than a 13-5 slug/walk-fest.
They're in bottom 8

ScarletKnight41
Apr 13 2006 03:55 PM

[url=http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/655/letsgometsanimation2rm.swf]The Mets Win! The Mets Win![/url]

holychicken
Apr 13 2006 03:56 PM

Yes, Elster, it most definitely is cool. Thanks for pointing it out.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:57 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Only the Yanquis could be in a 6-2 game (4-2 until a minute ago) which is taking considerably longer than a 13-5 slug/walk-fest.
They're in bottom 8


True. Though a 13-5 game in under 3 hours (2:44) has to be pretty rare.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 03:57 PM

The last two games of the first Nats' series are the only two to go over three hours. (3:37, 3:33)

Rotblatt
Apr 13 2006 03:59 PM

Sanchez closes it out despite a Reyes error.

Nice.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 04:00 PM

I can't get over that we are one Wagner BS away from 8-0. I like baseball.

Must suck to have renounced being a Met fan only to have them get off to a great start this year.

ScarletKnight41
Apr 13 2006 04:02 PM

Where's Dickshot with that picture of the old guy with the brooms?

Johnny Dickshot
Apr 13 2006 04:05 PM

Rockin' Doc
Apr 13 2006 04:06 PM

Nice job on the IGT gang. Fun read for those of us that had to work and didn't get to check in on the game.

Elster88
Apr 13 2006 04:07 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2006 04:07 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote:
had to work and didn't get to check in on the game.


I can't imagine that.

Rockin' Doc
Apr 13 2006 04:07 PM

Damn, I love that old guy, JD. Hope to see a lot more of him this year.

Nymr83
Apr 13 2006 04:11 PM

Julio really doesnt belong on a major league roster.

Willets Point
Apr 13 2006 04:12 PM

Nymr83 wrote:
Julio really doesnt belong on a major league roster.


You're right. He belongs down by the schoolyard.

Nymr83
Apr 13 2006 04:18 PM

someone start the schaffer... 9 points to the offense today (oliver gets 1 for his rbi hit and 2 innings w/o a run)

Bret Sabermetric
Apr 13 2006 04:28 PM

Elster88 wrote:
Must suck to have renounced being a Met fan only to have them get off to a great start this year.


Thanks for your concern. I'm getting by.


Boston 6 -2 .750

Willets Point
Apr 13 2006 04:37 PM

You've got to admit though that the Boy Genius really screwed up signing Wells to 2 years.

Nymr83
Apr 13 2006 04:59 PM

yeah, but the mets didn't do it so it doesnt need to be criticized.

Centerfield
Apr 13 2006 06:18 PM

Great to see Cliffy get it going. He hit some balls hard last night too. I hear that, on top of his HR and double, he hit a scorcher that was caught today.

DocTee
Apr 13 2006 07:50 PM

Mets Magic Number: 151

Centerfield
Apr 13 2006 11:16 PM

Just watched the replay on TV. The hitting, of course, looked great. But I was surprised how much Zambrano struggled. His ball/strike ratio was awful...and it looked like he got the benefit getting balls hit right at people a few times.

For the life of me I can't figure out why they traded Benson and kept Zambrano.

Johnny Dickshot
Apr 13 2006 11:20 PM

I can think of a few million reasons.

metirish
Apr 13 2006 11:20 PM

CF were you really surprised with Zambrano?,I watched the replay like you and I thought it was a typical Zam outing.

metirish
Apr 14 2006 12:03 AM

I read today that the Mets have only been behind in two innings all season, a small sample but that's amazin.....

Elster88
Apr 14 2006 08:54 AM

Bret Sabermetric wrote:
="Elster88"]Must suck to have renounced being a Met fan only to have them get off to a great start this year.


Thanks for your concern. I'm getting by.


Boston 6 -2 .750


Too bad you're not a Red Sox fan.

Elster88
Apr 14 2006 09:05 AM

Centerfield
Apr 14 2006 11:10 AM

metirish wrote:
CF were you really surprised with Zambrano?,I watched the replay like you and I thought it was a typical Zam outing.


I couldn't follow the game during the day yesterday, so when I looked at the boxscore, and the IGT, I thought Victor was pretty strong before struggling in the 5th. Plus, with his strong spring, I guess I was hoping for better.

But you're right, yesterday was typical Zambrano. Unfortunately.

Bret Sabermetric
Apr 14 2006 12:17 PM

Elster88 wrote:
="Bret Sabermetric"]
Elster88 wrote:
Must suck to have renounced being a Met fan only to have them get off to a great start this year.


Thanks for your concern. I'm getting by.


Boston 6 -2 .750


Too bad you're not a Red Sox fan.


I'm sorry, did you lose my official Elster88 registration or something? May I re-apply for your permission to root for the Red Sox? Does this mean that, until youve made your decision, that I have to turn in my Red Sox cap? Can I still go to games at Fenway? Pretty please?

Elster88
Apr 14 2006 12:38 PM

I had promised not to respond to hostility any more.

But, to me, you spend an awful lot of time over here for a Red Sock fan.