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IGT 4/16/06 vs. Brewers, Ben Sheets debuts against Bannister

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 12:07 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 16 2006 12:11 PM

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2410600]ESPN says[/url] Carlos Beltran has a sore hammy and will sit out today. JG says, "Oh, crap".

Yancy Street Gang Apr 16 2006 12:09 PM

Eek. Who plays center? Does Nady move over, with Diaz in right, or does Chavez get a start? EDIT: Frayed Knot answers my question

Elster88 Apr 16 2006 12:11 PM

On the FAN this morning, Ned Yost said he will limit Ben Sheets to 90 pitches. He is 100% and his fastball looks great, they are just treating it as his first start out of spring training, hence the pitch limit.

Edgy DC Apr 16 2006 12:18 PM

One thing Randolph seems loathe to do is have regulars switch positions, either covering for another regular on an off day or in a mid-game switch. The only exception I can think of from 2005 is Cameron playing center, and, even then, he had to go to Willie and explicitly request to cover center while Beltran was resting a sore leg. That is, I think we'll see Woodward in center before Nady. I think we'll see Valentin at third before Nady also. Maybe not.

Elster88 Apr 16 2006 12:24 PM

With Endy and Andy, the pitcher's spot is now the seventh best hitter in the lineup today. This is why we need Kaz back, folks. When someone gets hurt, we lose that piece of the offense. Despite the hitting so far, we really can't afford a regular player with Hernandez's bat.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 12:28 PM

Elster88 wrote: With Endy and Andy, the pitcher's spot is now the seventh best hitter in the lineup today. This is why we need Kaz back, folks. When someone gets hurt, we lose that piece of the offense. Despite the hitting so far, we really can't afford a regular player with Hernandez's bat. And Matsui is any better? Our chances of dethroning the Braves are looking brighter and brighter... I need some beers, thinking about the end of baseball and thinking of how this season could be a house of cards...I need beers

Elster88 Apr 16 2006 12:29 PM

mlbaseballtalk wrote: ="Elster88"]With Endy and Andy, the pitcher's spot is now the seventh best hitter in the lineup today. This is why we need Kaz back, folks. When someone gets hurt, we lose that piece of the offense. Despite the hitting so far, we really can't afford a regular player with Hernandez's bat. And Matsui is any better? Uh, yes. Have you seen Andy hit? Holy crap, how many times must we go over this?

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 12:46 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="mlbaseballtalk"] Elster88 wrote: With Endy and Andy, the pitcher's spot is now the seventh best hitter in the lineup today. This is why we need Kaz back, folks. When someone gets hurt, we lose that piece of the offense. Despite the hitting so far, we really can't afford a regular player with Hernandez's bat. And Matsui is any better? Uh, yes. Have you seen Andy hit? Holy crap, how many times must we go over this? It doesn't matter, give me the devil I don't know over the devil I DO know

Elster88 Apr 16 2006 12:47 PM

You should know, and everyone with eyes knows, that Kaz is a better hitter than Andy. It's not a debate at this point.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 12:49 PM

Elster88 wrote: Stupidity. No, its realizing Matsui was an expensive mistake and moving ON! Hernandez may be another mistake, probably is, but lets not go back to an old problem to fix the new problem

Elster88 Apr 16 2006 12:53 PM

That's incorrect. You take the player on the team who performs best, and you start him. It's common sense. Anything else is stupidity.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 12:55 PM

Elster88 wrote: That's incorrect. You take the player on the team who performs best, and you start him. It's common sense. Anything else is stupidity. Ah does even fucking matter any more. This season is looking more and more like a house of cards. Its going to end with another summer swoon, the Braves are going to win another division and the MFY are going to win their fucking 27th fucking title Why, because we were made to suffer, its our lot in life

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 12:57 PM

Matusi performs best. Okay, so you'll take a guy that sucks at the plate AND on the field over a guy who just sucks at the plate. Great... and there goes our division title chances

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 12:57 PM

I'm with Elster. Now we gotta game today, boys. Focus, damn it. Endy in. Everybody else up one. Reyes SS Lo Duca C Delgado 1B Wright 3B Floyd LF Nady RF Chavez CF Hernandez 2B Bannister P

Elster88 Apr 16 2006 12:58 PM

Right now, Anderson Hernandez is not a better ballplayer than Kaz Matsui. This is not a debate.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 01:00 PM

Elster88 wrote: Right now, Anderson Hernandez is not a better ballplayer than Kaz Matsui. This is not a debate. Maybe we should trade both for Cabrera and stick Miggy at 2nd?

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 01:02 PM

Here's the lineup for the Cerveceras, before mlbbaseballguy and myself are both drunk. Weeks and Brady Clark both getting a break today. Gross CF Hardy SS Jenkins RF Lee LF Koskie 3B Hall 2B Fielder 1B Miller C Sheets P

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 01:02 PM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: I'm with Elster. Now we gotta game today, boys. Focus, damn it. Hard to focus in when I allready can feel the ending of the season as another bitter fucking dissapointment and making it 21 years and counting... Watching another fucking Divisional Fucking Championship in Turner and Banner Fucking 27 hanging in Fucking MFY Stadium

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 01:08 PM

Barkeep, cut that guy off.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 01:09 PM

Pinstripes and blue caps! Yeah!

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 01:12 PM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Pinstripes and blue caps! Yeah! Wow, what a concept!

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 01:15 PM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Barkeep, cut that guy off. Aww you know how this season is gonna go. Injury to Beltran, then Reyes is going to suddenly pop his string, Pedro is going to go down The Braves make their ANNUAL summer run, be in first by Labor Day The Mets will collapse and people here, MOFO, talk radio and fish hacks will be calling for trading off of all of our high priced talent for younger talent The Yanks will once again win the fucking World Series and Met fans will wonder what the fuck is it going to take to take back this fucking town from those fucking front runners in the FUCKING BRONX

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 01:20 PM

No, man, I don't know all that. That's why I'm watching today. Same as you.

Gwreck Apr 16 2006 01:22 PM

Bannister strands 2 runners. I wish he'd throw a few more strikes, but he looks OK today.

Yancy Street Gang Apr 16 2006 01:23 PM

mlbtalk seems to be off his medication.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 01:24 PM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: No, man, I don't know all that. That's why I'm watching today. Same as you. My will to continue watching this season is dwindling though...Old staff, injury prone starters Get me to Labor Day!

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 01:26 PM

Plus 6 games coming up with the Braves, please tell me how this year will be different than any other over the last 10 years huh? The Braves can change their players and they still beat us EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 01:40 PM

Very nice. Bannister loads them up and then leaves them all out there, striking out two and getting Hardy to fly out. He's got no command, but he's got nads. Big ones.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 01:44 PM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Very nice. Bannister loads them up and then leaves them all out there, striking out two and getting Hardy to fly out. He's got no command, but he's got nads. Big ones. Yeah maybe the Mets should trade him for another oft-injured reclamation project ala Zambrano. This season is becoming more and more mirage like...

Johnny Dickshot Apr 16 2006 01:45 PM

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A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 01:46 PM

We interrupt this pissing and moaning session to give you a kaboom: Edit: Damn, beat me to it. Your kaboom was always my fav.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 01:49 PM

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mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 01:50 PM

Remind me to get a shot of it at night with it lighting up

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 01:51 PM

Nice shot.

Gwreck Apr 16 2006 01:58 PM

Bannister's going to be lucky to go 4 innings at this rate.

Edgy DC Apr 16 2006 02:00 PM

]Remind me to get a shot of it at night with it lighting up Now, how can that happen based on your forecast? HYOOOJ whiff of Fielder.

TheOldMole Apr 16 2006 02:03 PM

The kid works out of a jam.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 02:03 PM

Edgy DC Apr 16 2006 02:04 PM

The magic hat is the one on Bannister's head this afternoon. Hey, Kool, MLBtv is staying with the studio during the break again.

Gwreck Apr 16 2006 02:04 PM

8 runners stranded so far. 81 pitches though. Good thing Aaron's well-rested.

TheOldMole Apr 16 2006 02:20 PM

Nady almost misjudges a fly ball, but he pulls it in, and Bannister out of the inning with only one run.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 02:21 PM

Great diving play by Reyes. He didn't rush the throw and nailed Hardy by plenty. Ends up being a huge play as Jenkins follows with a double. This game coulda been tied.

GYC Apr 16 2006 02:44 PM

STOP USING JOSE VALENTIN FOR GODS SAKE! THIS IS BULLSHIT! HE IS SO DAMNED HORRIBLE! THE WORST BENCH PLAYER IN ALL SPORTS! GARBAGE! USE FRANCO! WOODWARD! GLAVINE! ANYONE BUT VALENTIN! THIS IS CRAZY!

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 02:47 PM

Edgy DC wrote: ]Remind me to get a shot of it at night with it lighting up Now, how can that happen based on your forecast? HYOOOJ whiff of Fielder. I'm coming back out of my funk. Just have to stop thinking about the last 20 plus years and about the troubles with baseball that make me wonder why I ever wanted to be a sports writer in the first place

Gwreck Apr 16 2006 02:48 PM

He's the only left-handed bat on the bench (Beltran excepted). Don't worry, I think he's sealed his ticket outta here when Matsui comes back.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 03:06 PM

Crap. Oliver's given up a bomb in each of his last two appearances now. He might be carpooling with Julio to Norfolk. At least they can use the HOV lane.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 03:18 PM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Crap. Oliver's given up a bomb in each of his last two appearances now. He might be carpooling with Julio to Norfolk. At least they can use the HOV lane. I think I may hit the bottle again, BARKEEP!

Hillbilly Apr 16 2006 03:45 PM

Heilman struggles through the 8th leaving two on the bases.

Hillbilly Apr 16 2006 03:51 PM

Reyes with the walk how about a some insurance runs in the 8th.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 03:59 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 16 2006 03:59 PM

Delgado KA-BOOM

Hillbilly Apr 16 2006 03:59 PM

Delgado adds the insurance. Three-run bomb! 7-3 Mets!

Gwreck Apr 16 2006 04:00 PM

Delgado!

TheOldMole Apr 16 2006 04:09 PM

And the bases loaded for....Hernandez?

TheOldMole Apr 16 2006 04:10 PM

Hernandez hits it all the way to...the pitcher. Fortunately, only the force at the plate.

TheOldMole Apr 16 2006 04:11 PM

Two run double for Diaz...9-3.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 04:13 PM

Julio warming up. Give him one more shot. Sit Billy down.

Gwreck Apr 16 2006 04:15 PM

Julio time?

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 04:16 PM

Gwreck wrote: Julio time? BAR KEEP! Double shot of JD straight... Captain Jack will get ya high tonight...

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 04:16 PM

Yupİ.

TheOldMole Apr 16 2006 04:18 PM

How many runs before they yank Julio?

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 04:20 PM

That shot by Billy Hall was a frickin' laser beam.

Elster88 Apr 16 2006 04:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 16 2006 04:25 PM

They zoomed in on the 396, which is where that double hit, and you could see the stitching and imprint of the ball. I'm not lying. There was a "We Want Benson" chant. But Julio gets the job done. 2 out of 3. Pretty good. Hopefully that'll calm mlbtalk for the rest of the day.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 16 2006 04:25 PM

Hey, Hey, Jorge! A double, a wild pitch, but no runs allowed! Nice win.

KC Apr 16 2006 04:27 PM

Lotta fun, Braves lost too!

Edgy DC Apr 16 2006 05:19 PM

]STOP USING JOSE VALENTIN FOR GODS SAKE! THIS IS BULLSHIT! HE IS SO DAMNED HORRIBLE! THE WORST BENCH PLAYER IN ALL SPORTS! GARBAGE! USE FRANCO! WOODWARD! GLAVINE! ANYONE BUT VALENTIN! THIS IS CRAZY! A lot of mimosas flying around Easter brunches today. ]There was a "We Want Benson" chant. Not cool. Way too close to Yankee fans chanting for David Wells to try to stick it to Roger Clemens.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 05:26 PM

Edgy DC wrote: ]STOP USING JOSE VALENTIN FOR GODS SAKE! THIS IS BULLSHIT! HE IS SO DAMNED HORRIBLE! THE WORST BENCH PLAYER IN ALL SPORTS! GARBAGE! USE FRANCO! WOODWARD! GLAVINE! ANYONE BUT VALENTIN! THIS IS CRAZY! A lot of mimosas flying around Easter brunches today. ]There was a "We Want Benson" chant. Not cool. Way too close to Yankee fans chanting for David Wells to try to stick it to Roger Clemens. I know there is sarcasim there, but there is a HUGE difference between Jorge Julio and Roger Clemens Granted they are both equally hated by Met Nation but still...

Edgy DC Apr 16 2006 05:28 PM

I'm not comparing Jorge Julio and Roger Clemens. I'm comparing fans.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 05:37 PM

Edgy DC wrote: I'm not comparing Jorge Julio and Roger Clemens. I'm comparing fans. Didn't we do that for every Jim Fregosi at bat at Shea? "We Want RY-AN!"

Edgy DC Apr 16 2006 05:51 PM

I never went to Shea for a Jim Fregosi at-bat.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 16 2006 06:08 PM

Whats the record for posts in one day around here? Seems like I jumped a few players with my meltdowns this morning and my continued wackiness today?

The Big O Apr 16 2006 06:47 PM

Banno today: 1st - 1 out: single; 2 outs: walk 2nd - 0 outs: single, walk, walk 3rd - 0 outs: single; 1 out: single, walk 4th - 1 out: double, wild pitch, groundout (scored 1); 2 outs: double 5th - 2 outs: walk 11 baserunners in 5 innings, 1 run allowed. A little love for Brian Bannister, please? Start 1: 2 hits, 4 BB, 4 K, 6 groundouts, 8 flyouts Start 2: 3 hits, 0 BB, 1 K, 8 groundouts, 14 flyouts Start 3: 6 hits, 5 BB, 4 K, 5 groundouts, 6 flyouts Got a grounder for the final out of the 1st, then didn't get another until the 4th inning, his 18th batter faced. 3 K's in the first 2 innings, 1 in the 3rd, none thereafter. Maybe less velocity, more pitch placement as the game wore on? Though in his least-wild start, he got tons of flyouts, but a lone K. Weirdness.

Elster88 Apr 16 2006 07:53 PM

He gets more love when he doesn't give up all the hits and walks and thus gets more than 5 innings and thus doesn't tax the hell out of the bullpen.

Nymr83 Apr 16 2006 08:17 PM

I was there today for my 3rd game of the young season. Bannister was the shakiest I've ever seen a winning pitcher be, but he got his job done. The Beatles were back at Shea today... well, sort of... reliever Chad Bradford entered the game, approriately enough, to "Yellow Submarine." The crowd was singing along and laughing

The Big O Apr 16 2006 08:19 PM

Interesting theoretical question whether you'd rather a) what happened today, or b) Bannister gives up 11 runs and the already chalked-up loss gets thrown to the long-inning guy. With the Braves coming up, you may well be right. On the other hand, a win's a win's a win. I didn't see the game, but I'd guess BB didn't have his best stuff today. For pitching through it -- albeit a short outing -- and giving up only 1 run, he gets some love from me. ]"My approach is I don't give in," Bannister said. "I'll walk guys before I'll give them a pitch they can drive. I'll keep making my pitches all day." Hmm...

Elster88 Apr 16 2006 08:25 PM

I'd much rather the pen gets used for a win. In the end it wasn't too bad. Heilman's out for a game or two, but Wagner and Oliver only pitched one inning each.

The Big O Apr 16 2006 08:30 PM

No Sandman today.

Elster88 Apr 16 2006 08:32 PM

Oops. Yeah true. He did warm up though. Even better regarding your initial question. Julio's usage is not a big deal.

Yancy Street Gang Apr 17 2006 09:54 AM

Can anyone find any good online photos from this games? I'd love to get blue cap (or helmet) pictures of Delgado, Nady, Bannister, etc. Newsday's web site often has a photo gallery, as does CBS Sportsline. The CBS site seems to be boycotting photos from Mets games this year. (They're devoting too much space to everything Barry Bonds does.) And Newsday had nothing when I checked this morning.

OlerudOwned Apr 17 2006 10:10 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/nym/photos?pg=1&cap=0 The first 2 pages have pictures from yesterday's game.

Yancy Street Gang Apr 17 2006 10:30 AM

That's great, thank you! I was able to get a very nice Delgado, and a pretty good Bannister.

Edgy DC Apr 17 2006 10:57 AM

You can grab an Endy there also.

Yancy Street Gang Apr 17 2006 11:12 AM

I considered that one, but it's kinda small and too much profile. I'll keep looking for a better Endy, even if the cap isn't blue.

Elster88 Apr 17 2006 03:14 PM

I didn't like the home run dance that Delgado and Reyes did. I don't like that crap. Do it in the dugout, fine.

Yancy Street Gang Apr 17 2006 03:19 PM

I think that seeing two men dance threatens my marriage. We need a constitutional amendment.

metirish Apr 17 2006 03:20 PM

Can we have Gary Carter teach these guys how to take a curtain call, show some life at least....

Edgy DC Apr 17 2006 03:21 PM

Which is it? Too much dancing or not enough life?

metirish Apr 17 2006 03:22 PM

Hahaha, well a compromise then, they can save the dancing for the curtain call....really be like Gary.

Elster88 Apr 17 2006 03:23 PM

I like curtain calls, but mostly for special home runs. Like game winners (well maybe not game winners since then everyone is dancing on the field) but maybe game tiers or game take-the-leaders, etc.

Edgy DC Apr 17 2006 03:28 PM

Beltran's homer was special to Met fans because he hit it while putting up with their crap. He showed heart so they adopted him.

Elster88 Apr 17 2006 03:30 PM

Well, whatever. As long as it was special.

Yancy Street Gang Apr 17 2006 03:32 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Beltran's homer was special to Met fans because he hit it while putting up with their crap. He showed heart so they adopted him. I agree with the first sentence. Things are still tenuous regarding the second sentence, however, especially with another leg injury this season. I hope that time proves the adoption statement to be true.