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Bonds, McGwire, Sosa HR records

Should their HR totals/records stand?

Yes	13 votes
No	3 votes

cooby Apr 10 2006 10:16 PM

Do you think their Home Run records should stand? I am lumping them all together, but you may want to consider and comment on them seperately

Johnny Dickshot Apr 10 2006 10:21 PM

What happened happened. You just gotta interpret it through the filter of the era. And not pay so much attention to "counting" records.

metirish Apr 10 2006 10:25 PM

Yeah they should count, not sure how MLB couldn't count them.

Nymr83 Apr 10 2006 10:30 PM

If a player is caught using a substance that is banned in baseball OR illegal in the United States at the time he took it I think an asterik should go next to any of his records. In this context when i say caught i mean actually caught, not suspected. There would need to be a positive test for the substance, a receipt labelled "equine steroids" in his drawer, etc. Absent actually gettig caught nothing official should be done to the records. The fans will know who they suspect of what and that is enough.

ScarletKnight41 Apr 10 2006 10:35 PM

I can't be objective here. McGwire meant too much to my son in 1998. I abstain from voting on this issue.

cooby Apr 10 2006 10:56 PM

Bear in mind, every one of those homeruns was hit while allegedly cheating, illegal or not.

GYC Apr 10 2006 11:32 PM

A record is just a number.

Bret Sabermetric Apr 11 2006 02:05 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 11 2006 03:36 AM

Another fork in the road to deal with. We'll all have more complications to discuss, as we talk about HRs, from this point forward. Some of us will take Dickshot's stoical stance, and say, "A record's a record, but some records need more explanation than others." Some will say "I don't recognize that record as a record," and cite reasons, which could include steroid abuse, or might include quality of competition issues, or racial issues, and many a tedious, circular, incessant argument will be had. As you might infer, I'm sick of these arguments, and I have heard 1% of all of them I'm going to hear from this fork in the road forward. OE: typos

TheOldMole Apr 11 2006 02:37 AM

Yes, depressing though the prospect is.