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Rotblatt
Apr 14 2006 08:13 AM

When plain old funk's just not good enough . . .

try the P-Funk.

1. P-Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up)
2. Tear The Roof Off The Sucker (Give Up The Funk)
3. Up for the Down Stroke
4. Bop Gun (Endangered Species)
5. Flash Light
6. Aqua Boogy (A Psychoalphadiscobetabioaquadoloop)
7. Mothership Connection (Star Child)
8. Do That Stuff
9. Chocolate City
10. [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000001FUB/ref=m_art_li_5/103-7680295-1450266?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=5174]Gamin’ on Ya[/url]

[url=http://www.mp3.com/albums/132520/summary.html]Tear the Roof Off 1974-1980[/url]

Willets Point
Apr 14 2006 10:01 AM

Anyone who likes both Parliament and the Pogues has really good taste in music.

HahnSolo
Apr 14 2006 10:05 AM

Due to some Good Friday obligations, I might not get a U2 list up until later today.

seawolf17
Apr 14 2006 12:22 PM

In the meantime, let's talk about U2 and the Holy Eucharist, courtesy of Yahoo! News:

Episcopal Churches Turn to U2 to Pack Pews
By RAY HENRY, Associated Press Writer
Fri Apr 14, 9:14 AM ET

PROVIDENCE, R.I. - As the electric guitar in the U2 anthem "Pride (In the Name of Love)" faded from four speakers, the Rev. Robert Brooks welcomed worshippers to Grace Episcopal Church with an unusual suggestion: He warned them to protect their hearing.

"If the sound's an issue, we do have earplugs available," he said.

Ushers handed out earplugs and fluorescent glow sticks for the "U2 Eucharist," a communion service punctuated by the Irish rock band's music. Episcopal parishes from California to Maine have hosted similar events, weaving U2's tunes — laced with biblical references — into the liturgy.

Streamers flew over worshippers' heads at the recent gathering in Providence. Children danced by the altar. Plasma-screen TVs illuminated the gothic sanctuary. Some people sang and clapped, while a few looked puzzled.

Brooks said the evening was designed to invigorate his once-aging congregation — attracting young people and those interested in social activism. "We absolutely need to grow in order to survive," he said.

Weeks before the service, church members conducted what Brooks called "guerrilla marketing," posting fliers at coffee and sandwich shops, bars and colleges. About 130 people showed up for the Friday night service, roughly the same turnout as a Sunday morning. The event included an offering for local charities and enlisted volunteers for the One Campaign, an effort to alleviate global poverty backed by U2's lead singer, Bono.

A similar U2 Eucharist in November proved popular at All Saints' Church in Atlanta. Organizer Laurie Haynes Burlington said she and her husband planned on 300 worshippers. About 500 showed up.

No one tracks how many parishes have hosted similar events, but the service in Providence was based on a playlist created by the Rev. Paige Blair, a parish priest in York Harbor, Maine.

Her format has spread by word-of-mouth and on clergy e-mail lists. She's received calls from more than a dozen interested churches and helped put on the service in Providence. (Episcopal parishes seem to be the only ones that have latched on to U2 in such an organized way).

Christian Scharen, 39, a Lutheran pastor and professor at Yale Divinity School, said he's often argued to older colleagues that U2 is heavily influenced by Christianity. He wrote a book on the subject, "One Step Closer: Why U2 Matters to Those Seeking God," and says it doesn't surprise him that some congregations have caught on.

"People who have these liturgical resonances in their bones, they go to a U2 concert and they just get it," Scharen said.

Bono, meanwhile, has told interviewers that he worships God through music. He once belonged to an ascetic Christian community, and in February, he spoke at the National Prayer Breakfast. The band's early tapes were sold in religious bookstores.

Still, the band members are traditional rock 'n' rollers — they swear, drink and sing about sex. It's also not known whether U2 endorses the services using their songs: Blair said she received permission from U2's publishing company to use the group's music, but never talked to the band. Representatives for U2 did not return phone calls seeking comment.

In Providence, Blair delivered a homily to pitch the One Campaign, which the Episcopal Church supports. She ticked off statistics about poverty and infant mortality in Africa, underscoring her points with equal parts Bono and Bible.

"If you're a Bono fan, you know the next line: Where you live should not determine whether you live or die," she said, then reminding worshippers of a Gospel passage warning that taking care of the needy is what will separate the good from the bad at the final judgment.

The opening hymn was "Pride (In the Name of Love)," an early hit. As the music played, pictures of famous believers including Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. flashed on a 10-by-14 foot screen set up behind the church's altar.

Several songs included in the service sound more like angry lamentations than hymns of praise. "Peace on Earth," inspired by a deadly bombing in Northern Ireland, questions why God won't halt human suffering.

"Jesus can you take the time to throw a drowning man a line," Bono sings.

Some Christians might not be able to relate to the shades of doubt and anger, but Blair said that struggle is evident in the Bible.

For example, Bono echoes the 40th Psalm in the opening lines of the band's song "40," belting out, "I waited patiently for the Lord. He inclined and heard my cry."

Willets Point
Apr 14 2006 12:31 PM

Those wacky Episcopalians. On the other hand it's really not too different from a medieval cleric setting a Mass to Gregorian chant or a classical composer like Handel writing music for a liturgy. Just examples of the arts and culture of the times being used to worship God. The one thing that bothers me is that they selected songs from U2's catalog whereas I would think it more appropriate if they commissioned Bono & U2 to specificaly write a setting of songs for the liturgy (assuming they'd want to do that).

HahnSolo
Apr 14 2006 04:12 PM

Oddly, before I read that article, I thought, for the briefest of instances, to do a religious-themed U2 list, in honor of the holidays this weekend. Then I thought that would be wayyyy too much effort and put the kibosh on it.

So, the lineup changes slightly. We have 5 standards, 3 of Bono's personal favorites, and 2 of my own personal faves.

One
Bad
Beautiful Day*
Where the Streets Have No Name
New Year's Day
Until the End of the World*
Out of Control**
Vertigo*
Ultraviolet (Light My Way)**
Sunday Bloody Sunday

Out of Control can be found on the album BOY
New Years Day and Sunday Bloody Sunday can be found on the album WAR
Bad can be found on the album THE UNFORGETTABLE FIRE
Where the Streets Have No Name is on the album THE JOSHUA TREE
One, Until the End of the World, and Ultraviolet are on the album ACHTUNG BABY
Beautiful Day can be heard on the album ALL THAT YOU CAN'T LEAVE BEHIND
Vertigo is on the album HOW TO DISMANTLE AN ATOMIC BOMB

* = Bono favorite
** = HahnSolo favorite

Willets Point
Apr 14 2006 04:16 PM

Willets' favorites on the list:

Bad
Until the End of the World
Ultraviolet (Light My Way)
Sunday Bloody Sunday

I pretty much like 'em all though.

Elster88
Apr 14 2006 04:20 PM

How do you people feel about With or Without You?

Johnny Dickshot
Apr 14 2006 04:43 PM

I could do without it.

Edgy DC
Apr 14 2006 04:50 PM


Parliamentvs.=darkblue]U2

"P-Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up)"vs."One"
"Tear The Roof Off The Sucker (Give Up The Funk)"vs."Bad"
"Up for the Down Stroke"vs."Beautiful Day"
"Bop Gun (Endangered Species)"vs."Where the Streets Have No Name"
"Flash Light"vs."New Year's Day"
"Aqua Boogy (A Psychoalphadiscobetabioaquadoloop)"vs."Until the End of the World"
"Mothership Connection (Star Child)"vs."Out of Control"
"Do That Stuff"vs."Vertigo"
"Chocolate City"vs."Ultraviolet (Light My Way)"
"Gamin’ on Ya"vs."Sunday Bloody Sunday"

Willets Point
Apr 14 2006 04:56 PM

"P-Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up)" vs. "One" U2
"Tear The Roof Off The Sucker (Give Up The Funk)" vs. "Bad" Tie - too painful to chose between these two.
"Up for the Down Stroke" vs. "Beautiful Day" Parliament
"Bop Gun (Endangered Species)" vs. "Where the Streets Have No Name" U2
"Flash Light" vs. "New Year's Day" tie
"Aqua Boogy (A Psychoalphadiscobetabioaquadoloop)" vs. "Until the End of the World" U2
"Mothership Connection (Star Child)" vs. "Out of Control" Parliament
"Do That Stuff" vs. "Vertigo" Parliament
"Chocolate City" vs. "Ultraviolet (Light My Way)" U2
"Gamin’ on Ya" vs. "Sunday Bloody Sunday" U2

Parliament 4:6 U2

cooby
Apr 14 2006 09:36 PM

Elster88 wrote:
How do you people feel about With or Without You?



I love that song and have been wondering about its absence

Willets Point
Apr 14 2006 09:45 PM

Elster88 wrote:
How do you people feel about With or Without You?


I think it makes a bad choice for a Prom theme (and it was the theme for my sister's Senior Prom).

Otherwise, I think it's a good but not great U2 song. It was the first single off The Joshua Tree and got overplayed as a result which I think has turned people against it.

cooby
Apr 14 2006 09:47 PM

lol, that would make a dumb prom theme

Edgy DC
Apr 14 2006 10:02 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 14 2006 10:46 PM

Definitely puts an underscore on "And you GIVE yourSELF a-WAY-AY!"

metirish
Apr 14 2006 10:08 PM

Great tune live though....

Elster88
Apr 15 2006 10:49 AM

I, sadly, have not seen U2 live yet.

I need to remedy that.

I'd guess that they are the hardest ticket in the world to get as of today.

HahnSolo
Apr 15 2006 08:40 PM

Elster,
One thing you could do, and my wife and I did this for their last tour...if you join U2.com, you get first crack at tickets for all shows, before the public does. It was worth the $40 for us, as we got a chance to see them. It was like an extra $20 per ticket, which for us made it a no-brainer.

Elster88
Apr 15 2006 09:43 PM

Are they touring in the US any time soon?

metirish
Apr 16 2006 08:41 PM

They just cancelled the Australia leg of this tour, they played here last year, not sure but The Edge's daughter is apparently very sick and that's why they cancelled.

sharpie
Apr 17 2006 02:05 PM

"P-Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up)" vs. "One" PARLIAMENT
"Tear The Roof Off The Sucker (Give Up The Funk)" vs. "Bad" PARLIAMENT
"Up for the Down Stroke" vs. "Beautiful Day" U2
"Bop Gun (Endangered Species)" vs. "Where the Streets Have No Name" U2
"Flash Light" vs. "New Year's Day" U2
"Aqua Boogy (A Psychoalphadiscobetabioaquadoloop)" vs. "Until the End of the World" U2
"Mothership Connection (Star Child)" vs. "Out of Control" PARLIAMENT
"Do That Stuff" vs. "Vertigo" U2
"Chocolate City" vs. "Ultraviolet (Light My Way)" U2
"Gamin’ on Ya" vs. "Sunday Bloody Sunday" U2

U2 7
PARLIAMENT 3

metirish
Apr 17 2006 02:24 PM

P-Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up)" vs. "One" - U2

"Tear The Roof Off The Sucker (Give Up The Funk)" vs. "Bad" - U2

"Up for the Down Stroke" vs. "Beautiful Day" U2

"Bop Gun (Endangered Species)" vs. "Where the Streets Have No Name" U2

"Flash Light" vs. "New Year's Day" U2

"Aqua Boogy (A Psychoalphadiscobetabioaquadoloop)" vs. "Until the End of the World" U2

"Mothership Connection (Star Child)" vs. "Out of Control" - U2

"Do That Stuff" vs. "Vertigo" U2

"Chocolate City" vs. "Ultraviolet (Light My Way)" U2

"Gamin’ on Ya" vs. "Sunday Bloody Sunday" U2

I guess I just aian't that funky.

U2 - 10 - Parliment 0

Rotblatt
Apr 17 2006 03:11 PM

Huh. Well, I guess Mets fans don't dig the funk . . . I actually thought this would be a close one.

If only wee Willie Randolph were a CPF member. He LOVES the funk.

"P-Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up)" vs. "One" PARLIAMENT
"Tear The Roof Off The Sucker (Give Up The Funk)" vs. "Bad" PARLIAMENT
"Up for the Down Stroke" vs. "Beautiful Day" U2
"Bop Gun (Endangered Species)" vs. "Where the Streets Have No Name" Tie.
"Flash Light" vs. "New Year's Day" PARLIAMENT
"Aqua Boogy (A Psychoalphadiscobetabioaquadoloop)" vs. "Until the End of the World" U2
"Mothership Connection (Star Child)" vs. "Out of Control" PARLIAMENT
"Do That Stuff" vs. "Vertigo" PARLIAMENT
"Chocolate City" vs. "Ultraviolet (Light My Way)" PARLIAMENT
"Gamin’ on Ya" vs. "Sunday Bloody Sunday" U2

PARLIAMENT 6.5
U2 3.5

Elster88
Apr 17 2006 03:16 PM

HahnSolo wrote:
Elster,
One thing you could do, and my wife and I did this for their last tour...if you join U2.com, you get first crack at tickets for all shows, before the public does. It was worth the $40 for us, as we got a chance to see them. It was like an extra $20 per ticket, which for us made it a no-brainer.


That's good advice. I'm just going to have to remember to do it after their next US tour is announced.

Rockin' Doc
Apr 17 2006 11:10 PM

"P-Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up)" vs. "One" - U2
"Tear The Roof Off The Sucker (Give Up The Funk)" vs. "Bad" - Tie
"Up for the Down Stroke" vs. "Beautiful Day" - U2
"Bop Gun (Endangered Species)" vs. "Where the Streets Have No Name" - U2
"Flash Light" vs. "New Year's Day" - Tie
"Aqua Boogy (A Psychoalphadiscobetabioaquadoloop)" vs. "Until the End of the World" - U2
"Mothership Connection (Star Child)" vs. "Out of Control" - U2
"Do That Stuff" vs. "Vertigo" - U2
"Chocolate City" vs. "Ultraviolet (Light My Way)" - U2
"Gamin’ on Ya" vs. "Sunday Bloody Sunday" - U2

This one wasn't even close, in my view.
U2 9 & Parliament 1. I guess I'm just not a fan of the funk.

abogdan
Apr 18 2006 09:21 AM

"P-Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up)" vs. "One" - U2
"Tear The Roof Off The Sucker (Give Up The Funk)" vs. "Bad" - Parliament
"Up for the Down Stroke" vs. "Beautiful Day" - U2
"Bop Gun (Endangered Species)" vs. "Where the Streets Have No Name" - U2
"Flash Light" vs. "New Year's Day" - Parliament
"Aqua Boogy (A Psychoalphadiscobetabioaquadoloop)" vs. "Until the End of the World" - U2
"Mothership Connection (Star Child)" vs. "Out of Control" - Parliament
"Do That Stuff" vs. "Vertigo" - U2
"Chocolate City" vs. "Ultraviolet (Light My Way)" - Parliament
"Gamin’ on Ya" vs. "Sunday Bloody Sunday" - U2

U2 wins 6-4.

Willets Point
Apr 18 2006 12:20 PM

About four hours left to vote on this one.

Edgy DC
Apr 18 2006 12:22 PM

Not enough time to school myself beyong the three or four Parliament songs I know.

Johnny Dickshot
Apr 18 2006 12:24 PM

same here. Obscurity + street cred is trumping all in this contest

HahnSolo
Apr 18 2006 04:56 PM

I guess I missed the voting window here. But I also see my votes would not have really affected the outcome.

sharpie
Apr 18 2006 09:46 PM

Your final is 41.5-18.5. Parliament gets funked up.