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Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

ashie62 Feb 03 2020 03:44 PM

Here we are. Showtime My thought and hope is Pete B can roll up the suburbs and turn Trump voters enough to.... ward off Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, and a seemingly moving up Klobuchar... To come in 2nd and remain viable moving into NH. Cmon Iowa, born in Burlington IA here

LWFS Feb 03 2020 04:11 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Figure a Sanders win is a fair accompli? Ain't necessarily so, especially after multiple rounds/horse trading. I'll wager that-- and I say this as a Bernie-second-choice guy--his hardcore supporters may not be so good at compromise/consensus-building. I'll consider a vote for Buttgieg once he runs, like, a state. Or a county, even. Or like, a major policy initiative or law.

kcmets Feb 03 2020 06:10 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

I've never really paid much attention to this event. Watching it for some time on the impeachment channel* it all strikes me as kinda weird and outdated? *CNN

Ceetar Feb 03 2020 06:31 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

I had plans to poke my eyes out with hot pokers, but I guess I could do this instead.

Chad ochoseis Feb 03 2020 06:48 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=LWFS post_id=30985 time=1580771495 user_id=84] I'll consider a vote for Buttgieg once he runs, like, a state. Or a county, even. Or like, a major policy initiative or law.

In our polarized country, he has a far better chance of being president than governor of Indiana.

ashie62 Feb 03 2020 08:35 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Results are delayed at this point. Oye

ashie62 Feb 04 2020 05:51 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Total disaster. The new app failed. Hoping it is not a cybersecurity issue. Pete is not helping himself declaring victory.

G-Fafif Feb 04 2020 06:04 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Maybe scheduling something in Iowa on February 3 is just asking for trouble.

Lefty Specialist Feb 04 2020 06:35 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Well, a total shitshow. Looks more like incompetence than hacking. 1) Caucuses are stupid, unrepresentative, and did I mention stupid. 2) Iowa should never be first. (sorry Ashie) 3) As Chris Hayes said, "Never do something with an app that you can do just fine without an app." They'll probably report results later today but everybody will be justifiably suspicious.

ashie62 Feb 04 2020 07:04 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

You have three sets of numbers, cards where voters write their candidate on, a count of which group they join and the "regrouping" after unviable candidates are ditched. That is a tall task for older volunteers to accomplish, no less enter matched numbers on an app The app was developed by a company named Shadow. I could not make that up NH should be the first state Enter a voting booth and pull a lever. Spending two hours being herded around is not good for anyone

MFS62 Feb 04 2020 07:43 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

The Russians hacked the app. Whether it is true or not, the Democrats should start every speech with it, just to drive the fact home that the current administration has done nothing about hacking since the past presidential election. It is a unifying theme that all candidates can support. Later

kcmets Feb 04 2020 07:48 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

NYT headline is calling it a system-wide disaster and melt down. Lovely.

LWFS Feb 04 2020 08:04 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

The first state should be one that more accurately reflects the electorate, in terms of race/age/income/educational demographics, and population spread (urban/exurban/suburban/rural). Illinois?

metsmarathon Feb 04 2020 08:28 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

realistically, the order of the primaries should be varied each cycle to give each state a fair say in who the candidate is. the early primaries do so much to cull the field and focus the rest of the race, it's ridiculous that iowa and new hampshire get to call first dibs every time out. hell, you could make it a big to do. put 50 ping pong balls in a giant lotto hopper and keep drawing balls to determine the order. the timing of each could be adjusted later, where you could still group together some super tuesdays and the like, with a bunch happening on the same day, but you'd get a better, more fair representation of the peoples' will, and some previously forgotten states might actually get some attention. what would the democratic field look like if alaska or north dakota went first? or new jersey? or california? why does iowa carry the most weight? and new hampshire after it? what's yolanda vega up to these days, anyways?

kcmets Feb 04 2020 08:50 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Whe Does Iowa Vote First, Anyway? -- NPR.org

Ceetar Feb 04 2020 10:03 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

You guys make it seem like the Democrats are concerned with things like fair representation or orderly manner or anything. It's a sideshow at best. Sounds like the app was just fine, they just didn't bother to test or train anyone. Story of my life.

nymr83 Feb 04 2020 10:17 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

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LWFS Feb 04 2020 10:21 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

I've never been more certain that we're getting Emperor Trump II. These guys couldn't beat a bowl of eggs.

ashie62 Feb 04 2020 10:29 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=Ceetar post_id=31020 time=1580835792 user_id=102] You guys make it seem like the Democrats are concerned with things like fair representation or orderly manner or anything. It's a sideshow at best. Sounds like the app was just fine, they just didn't bother to test or train anyone. Story of my life.

They claim they did test captains and app worked fine.



Some precincts had no issue reporting via app



They are blaming a coding error that would not allow three columns of info to be entered



The were instructed to reload the app, but many did not remember their Apple password



A Russian narrative is likely false and destructive



This will pass with Buttigieg the likely winner

batmagadanleadoff Feb 04 2020 10:35 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=LWFS post_id=31023 time=1580836862 user_id=84] I've never been more certain that we're getting Emperor Trump II. These guys couldn't beat a bowl of eggs.

I'm feeling it the same as you this week.

Ceetar Feb 04 2020 10:41 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=LWFS post_id=31023 time=1580836862 user_id=84] I've never been more certain that we're getting Emperor Trump II. These guys couldn't beat a bowl of eggs.

As long as they remain inept, hopefully they won't be able to cheat enough to win. Literally a bowl of eggs would beat the pedophile in a fair and direct election.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 04 2020 10:57 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

We dont have fair and direct elections. Instead, we have the electoral college, Supreme Court approved voter suppression and gerrymandering and now a President free to rig the vote and be open about it. If we had fair elections, we wouldn't have Republican presidents.

Ceetar Feb 04 2020 11:32 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=31027 time=1580839031 user_id=68] We dont have fair and direct elections. Instead, we have the electoral college, Supreme Court approved voter suppression and gerrymandering and now a President free to rig the vote and be open about it. If we had fair elections, we wouldn't have Republican presidents.

Yes, and those things pretty much affect Biden, Bloomberg, Warren and Princess Khadijah M. Pres Jacob-Fambro equally were any of them to get the nomination.

Centerfield Feb 04 2020 11:50 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=LWFS post_id=31023 time=1580836862 user_id=84] I've never been more certain that we're getting Emperor Trump II. These guys couldn't beat a bowl of eggs.

Same.

Lefty Specialist Feb 04 2020 12:13 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Well, let's not get too far out over our skis here. This was a state Democratic Party that fucked up an app being used by a group of people who probably can't set the time on their VCR so it keeps blinking '12:00'. That doesn't necessarily translate into Four More Years of Darkness.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 04 2020 12:26 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

His approval rating's at an all-time high of 49%, right now and thanks to the retarded electoral college, he doesn't need 49% of the popular vote to win. Meanwhile, I have to watch Amy Klobuchar who doesn't have the timing to tell a fucking joke and who's gonna work with Mitch McConnell. Also, did she ever tell you, for like the hundredth time, that she passed a lot of bills?

Lefty Specialist Feb 04 2020 12:57 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

538's aggregate of polls (including that Gallup poll) shows 43.6% approval, 52.1% disapproval as of today.

kcmets Feb 04 2020 01:16 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Can corn ethanol be consumed? I think the Iowans are hitting the jug. Partial winner to be announced at 5 PM, not sure there's a time table to announce the remaining winner. Crazy shit.

Lefty Specialist Feb 04 2020 01:18 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=kcmets post_id=31037 time=1580847367 user_id=53] Can corn ethanol be consumed?

Yes, but it'll kill you.

kcmets Feb 04 2020 01:20 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Maybe they're just sniffing it a lot.

Chad ochoseis Feb 04 2020 01:31 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Methanol will kill you. Ethanol is the same stuff that's in your frosty mug of Schaefer, regardless of whether it comes from corn, barley, wheat, or any other grain fermentation. This is a glitch, not a problem. Voter disenfranchisement is a problem. Foreign election interference is a problem. Counting snafus are minor annoyances, but they sure make great stories.

Frayed Knot Feb 04 2020 01:44 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Chad ochoseis wrote: This is a glitch, not a problem ... Counting snafus are minor annoyances, but they sure make great stories. Great headlines too. I mean ya gotta love the NY Post's: DUH MOINES

Frayed Knot Feb 04 2020 02:05 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Also on the 'gotta like' category is the woman who reportedly and frantically tried to change her vote after learning that Pete Buttigieg is gay! I mean, even tossing aside the whole prejudice/optics of it for a moment, how does one take enough interest in presidential politics to wind up in a time-consuming caucus during the very earliest stages of the process a full nine months in advance of the election, only to find out Just NOW that Mayor Pete is working the other side of the street from you?!?

Chad ochoseis Feb 04 2020 02:09 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

That's why I'm suspicious that the whole thing was staged.

metsmarathon Feb 04 2020 02:51 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Lefty Specialist wrote: Well, let's not get too far out over our skis here. This was a state Democratic Party that fucked up an app being used by a group of people who probably can't set the time on their VCR so it keeps blinking '12:00'. That doesn't necessarily translate into Four More Years of Darkness. the best you-can't-make-this-shit-up detail for me is that, in an effort i guess to increase transparency and blah blah blah... the app was made by a dc tech firm named... wait for it... shadow.

Chad ochoseis Feb 04 2020 03:13 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=31034 time=1580844378 user_id=68] Meanwhile, I have to watch Amy Klobuchar who doesn't have the timing to tell a fucking joke and who's gonna work with Mitch McConnell. Also, did she ever tell you, for like the hundredth time, that she passed a lot of bills?

She's the one candidate who really needs a good showing in Iowa to prove she's viable, and she's DFL among the five major candidates with 62% of precincts reported. The next time you have to watch her, she may be thanking her supporters for fighting the good fight and vowing to do whatever it takes to get a Democrat elected in November. And subtly letting on that she'd make a darn good vice president.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 04 2020 03:17 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Chad ochoseis wrote: =batmagadanleadoff post_id=31034 time=1580844378 user_id=68] Meanwhile, I have to watch Amy Klobuchar who doesn't have the timing to tell a fucking joke and who's gonna work with Mitch McConnell. Also, did she ever tell you, for like the hundredth time, that she passed a lot of bills? She's the one candidate who really needs a good showing in Iowa to prove she's viable, and she's DFL among the five major candidates with 62% of precincts reported. The next time you have to watch her, she may be thanking her supporters for fighting the good fight and vowing to do whatever it takes to get a Democrat elected in November. And subtly letting on that she'd make a darn good vice president.

Good riddance! But I think she'll stick around till Super Tuesday by hook or by crook because that's when Minnesota votes.

TransMonk Feb 04 2020 06:41 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Chad ochoseis wrote: This is a glitch, not a problem. Voter disenfranchisement is a problem. Foreign election interference is a problem. Counting snafus are minor annoyances, but they sure make great stories. 1000 x this

batmagadanleadoff Feb 04 2020 08:20 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Lefty Specialist wrote: 538's aggregate of polls (including that Gallup poll) shows 43.6% approval, 52.1% disapproval as of today. Yeah, but the most recent major poll sez 49%. The trend is up.

Edgy MD Feb 04 2020 09:54 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Lefty Specialist wrote: Well, let's not get too far out over our skis here. This was a state Democratic Party that fucked up an app being used by a group of people who probably can't set the time on their VCR so it keeps blinking '12:00'. That doesn't necessarily translate into Four More Years of Darkness. Of course. I don't know why this primary system hasn't long ago been reformed. Why should anybody in Iowa have a vote that counts megatons more than my own?

Lefty Specialist Feb 05 2020 05:54 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

The whole system needs to be reformed. People start running for president before they finish sweeping up the confetti from the last election.

Edgy MD Feb 05 2020 06:31 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Listen, I'm going to solve the primary system. Divide the nation into four groups, adding up to more or less the same amount of electoral votes. Each of these groups will include states from all regions and economic sectors. We're down to four primary voting days, on the first Tuesdays of each month — February, March, April, and May. By May, we have our nominees. If Group A is voted on in February this year, Group B gets the February slot four years from now, with Group A pushed back to May. It's a big-old rotation. No state or group enjoys an artificial primacy over their sister states. Presidential candidates are judged for more than their willingness to continue corn subsidies, and Iowa — more evangelical than the nation as a whole in the Republican party, more esoteric than the nation as a whole in the Democratic party — is just another state with six electoral votes. Done. Now to fix impeachment trials.

Ceetar Feb 05 2020 07:19 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

or, novel idea. eliminate the parties, the primaries, all of it. Just let us pick, popularly, by vote.

Edgy MD Feb 05 2020 07:35 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Parties are going to happen. People with common goals form interest groups. Interest groups form coalitions. Coalitions make endorsements. If you want to, say, withhold parties from their access to put their brand on the ballot. I'm all for that.

TransMonk Feb 05 2020 03:39 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Lefty Specialist wrote: 538's aggregate of polls (including that Gallup poll) shows 43.6% approval, 52.1% disapproval as of today. Yeah, but the most recent major poll sez 49%. The trend is up. Well, the 49% Gallup poll had survey dates of 1/16-1/29. Since then, there has been a 42% Reuters Poll (2/3-2/4), a 48% Rasmussen poll (2/2-2/4) and a 44% Economist Poll (2/2-2/4). And Rasmussen is always higher than other polls. I think the idea of DJT ever having an approval average over 50% is a pipe dream. His average approval hit a high of 46% about two weeks after his inauguration and has not hit that number since (on average).

ashie62 Feb 06 2020 08:25 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Pete by a nose pending a possible recount

LWFS Feb 07 2020 07:52 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

So, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this is the last time Iowa's batting leadoff.

Lefty Specialist Feb 07 2020 08:03 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=LWFS post_id=31233 time=1581087156 user_id=84] So, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this is the last time Iowa's batting leadoff.

Certainly the last time they hold a caucus.

Edgy MD Feb 07 2020 09:38 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

I really am barely bothered by this counting clusterfuck. Perhaps I should be more, but we're busy exonerating a president who is as filthy as toilet tissue and I guess I have only so much outrage. There's this maxim that "there are only three tickets out of Iowa," and as a non-Democrat, I can see how Democrats might panic if they got the wrong three, but my position is ... "Why are there only three tickets out of Iowa? That sounds like bullshit." I had a friend, more of a friend of a friend, who campaigned for Senator John Edwards back in the day, and when I expressed this to him he was scandalized. He thought that Iowans represented a perfect, sane, cross-section of America. Of course, it was early success in Iowa that catapulted Senator Edwards from a fringe candidate to the big time. And who doesn't want to see obscure folks make breakthroughs? But ... so what? Why did that mean people in Florida and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin never got a chance to consider, I dunno, General Wesley Clark or Congressman Dennis Kucinich? Because of a few hundred people in Fairfield, Iowa, where they house America's largest school of yogic flying? And when Senator Edwards unsuprisingly turns out to be a fraud, we're all embarrassed, but it's not really on us. Somebody else filtered out all the interesting brands before we even got to go shopping.

Lefty Specialist Feb 07 2020 10:32 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Just wait until Republicans ratf*ck the South Carolina primary for Bernie. It's open, and anyone can vote regardless of party affiliation.

LWFS Feb 07 2020 09:04 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

God, it's a shame that Warren isn't such an iconoclast, and is instead just really, really competent and ready for this job. Maybe then, she'd get more debate time than Tom Steyer or Mayor Crazy-slick Robot.

ashie62 Feb 10 2020 08:41 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Warren should never say "I have a plan" to a psychiatrist

kcmets Feb 11 2020 07:55 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

"Eight Iowa counties have more voter registrations than their eligible voting-age population." Saw this on the news yesterday and just googled it. If Iowa is a broken system, imagine how fucked up places like Cali, NY and Texas are.

Ceetar Feb 11 2020 08:37 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

"Eight Iowa counties have more voter registrations than their eligible voting-age population." Saw this on the news yesterday and just googled it. If Iowa is a broken system, imagine how fucked up places like Cali, NY and Texas are. It's completely false and voter fraud is not really a thing. [url]https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/feb/03/charlie-kirk/conservative-organizations-are-spreading-misinform/ For example, Scott County — the largest county included in the Judicial Watch story — has an estimated population of 131,961 people ages 18 and older, according to 2018 data from the Census's American Community Survey. According to the Iowa secretary of state, there are 127,737 total voter registrations, 115,393 of which are active.

kcmets Feb 11 2020 08:49 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Believe who and what you want.

Ceetar Feb 11 2020 09:12 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

yes, that's literally trump's motto.

seawolf17 Feb 11 2020 09:46 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

The fucking Iowa Secretary of State debunked that fucking shit. For the love of fuck.

kcmets Feb 11 2020 10:21 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Why does everyone have to be so nasty lately?

Ceetar Feb 11 2020 11:30 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

You posted an easily debunked propaganda piece of fake news and then said "believe what you want" like facts don't matter when I pointed out it as such instead of "oops, got me" and deleting it.

kcmets Feb 11 2020 11:40 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=Ceetar post_id=31483 time=1581435470 user_id=102]voter fraud is not really a thing.

More nonsense.



Make voter ID a thing, the only people who are against it have something to hide.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 11 2020 12:01 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=kcmets post_id=31499 time=1581446436 user_id=53] =Ceetar post_id=31483 time=1581435470 user_id=102]voter fraud is not really a thing.

More nonsense.



Make voter ID a thing, the only people who are against it have something to hide.


It's not nonsense. Voter fraud is so infinitesimal it's virtually non-existent. A person is likelier to get struck by lightning twice in his or her life than to commit voter fraud. There's nothing wrong with voter ID's in principle, but the Voter ID laws that the GOP controlled scumbag states pass are discriminatory not only in effect and nature, but intentionally so. And if the Supreme Court wasn't comprised of extreme radical partisan hacks including the scumbag chief judge who's dedicated his whole life to destroying voting rights, it would apply a strict scrutiny analysis and strike down these voter suppresion laws which are euphemistically and bullshit Orwellian speak phrased as voter ID laws meant to uphold the integrity of the vote. More bullshit. They're meant to suppress minority and poor people from voting, who tend to overwhelmingly vote Dem. And if you followed the issue instead of just blabbing about it, you'd know that the scumbag GOP states are so comfortable and brazen about suppressing the vote, that they'll tell you openly that the whole point of Voter ID laws is to make it harder if not impossible for minorities and poor people to vote.


=kcmets post_id=31499 time=1581446436 user_id=53]


Make voter ID a thing, the only people who are against it have something to hide.


This is about as infuriating and ignorant as any comment I've ever read on these political threads.

kcmets Feb 11 2020 12:25 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

And I've infuriated you quite a bit over the years so this must be huge. I have a friend who has a deceased woman on her voting registration sign-in page. For five years she's pointed it out and each year it doesn't change. What's to stop someone from voting (a second vote) by using her slot?

kcmets Feb 11 2020 12:30 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=31505 time=1581447687 user_id=68]There's nothing wrong with voter ID's in principle

Right, so why crawl up my ass on it?

batmagadanleadoff Feb 11 2020 12:32 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=kcmets post_id=31507 time=1581449144 user_id=53] And I've infuriated you quite a bit over the years so this must be huge. I have a friend who has a deceased woman on her voting registration sign-in page. For five years she's pointed it out and each year it doesn't change. What's to stop someone from voting (a second vote) by using her slot?

I see. Well in that case, the only thing to do is to pass laws that are specifically designed with microscopic precision to prevent African-Americans from voting.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 11 2020 12:34 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

There's nothing wrong with voter ID's in principle Right, so why crawl up my ass on it? In principle, I said. That means Voter ID laws that don't have a discriminatory effect. Are you ignorant and naive? What the fuck do you think these scumbag GOP legislators do? They get together and ask themselves " what laws can we pass to prevent our coloreds from voting?"

batmagadanleadoff Feb 11 2020 12:38 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

There's nothing wrong with voter ID's in principle Right, so why crawl up my ass on it? In principle, I said. That means Voter ID laws that don't have a discriminatory effect. Are you ignorant and naive? What the fuck do you think these scumbag GOP legislators do? They get together and ask themselves " what laws can we pass to prevent our coloreds from voting?" And then they pass laws that prevent "their coloreds" from voting. According to a recent study, voter suppression alone was enough to swing Wisconsin over to Trump in 2016.

kcmets Feb 11 2020 12:39 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=31510 time=1581449535 user_id=68]the only thing to do is to pass laws that are specifically designed with microscopic precision to prevent African-Americans from voting.

That's silly, and as much as you oft-times loathe me I think you know

me better than that.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 11 2020 12:57 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

It's not silly. Voter integrity is a fucking pretext.

kcmets Feb 11 2020 01:17 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Suggesting that I'm behind preventing citizens from voting is silly.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 11 2020 01:23 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=kcmets post_id=31519 time=1581452259 user_id=53] Suggesting that I'm behind preventing citizens from voting is silly.

Why dont you re-read what you posted at 1:40pm? That'll explain what I think about you. It's the GOP voter suppression talking point. Were you also a supporter of Trump's 2017 voter integrity commission led by that career fraudster and voter suppressor Kobach? Talk about Orwellian.

kcmets Feb 11 2020 01:27 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Yes, I was a supporter of Trump's 2017 bbbyyy... you're fucking delusional if you think that. Put your intolerant hate back in your holster. Please.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 11 2020 01:43 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

You're talking to me as if I was the one who wrote what you wrote at 1:40.

kcmets Feb 11 2020 02:07 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=31505 time=1581447687 user_id=68]=kcmets post_id=31499 time=1581446436 user_id=53] Make voter ID a thing, the only people who are against it have something to hide.

This is about as infuriating and ignorant as any comment I've ever read on these political threads.
Sorry to infuriate you with my 'ignorance.' There's absolutely no reason why

someone shouldn't have to provide ID to vote. If you want to push the Kool-aid

about how it's designed to do this and do that then you drink from that pitcher

until your heart is content.



I suppose you're into the whole jailed rapists and all-non-citizens should be able

to vote too even though... ya know, that's illegal.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 11 2020 02:25 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=kcmets post_id=31529 time=1581455226 user_id=53] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=31505 time=1581447687 user_id=68]=kcmets post_id=31499 time=1581446436 user_id=53] Make voter ID a thing, the only people who are against it have something to hide.

This is about as infuriating and ignorant as any comment I've ever read on these political threads.
Sorry to infuriate you with my 'ignorance.' There's absolutely no reason why

someone shouldn't have to provide ID to vote. If you want to push the Kool-aid

about how it's designed to do this and do that then you drink from that pitcher

until your heart is content.



I suppose you're into the whole jailed rapists and all-non-citizens should be able

to vote too even though... ya know, that's illegal.


Kool-aid? Sigh. You truly do not understand the issue.



Either that or you're a voter suppressionist.

kcmets Feb 11 2020 02:37 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

And you truly don't lay awake at night worrying about African-American voting rights.

Ceetar Feb 11 2020 03:06 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

probably should. it's what got us into this mess and might be the last hope to get us out of it.

LWFS Feb 11 2020 06:49 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Take a breath, my dudes. What CF is saying is that, like immigration restrictions, voter-ID laws are a solution in search of a problem. If you think otherwise, you REAAAAAALLY should at least Google the issue; this is one of those where your gut reaction is not nearly as spot-on as you think it is.

kcmets Feb 11 2020 07:31 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

I'm not spot-on anything. I'll just leave you all alone and you can keep your fucking batmag cards and all wank off.

Double Switch Feb 11 2020 07:54 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=kcmets post_id=31492 time=1581441683 user_id=53] Why does everyone have to be so nasty lately?

Could it be you are simply overreacting?

batmagadanleadoff Feb 11 2020 07:59 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=kcmets post_id=31548 time=1581474707 user_id=53] I'm not spot-on anything. I'll just leave you all alone and you can keep your fucking batmag cards and all wank off.

What a fucking sore loser. And he'll never concede anything, not even grudgingly if it involves a disagreement with me. Instead, he'll twist and turn 20 different ways changing his story a zillion times. And now it's the baseball cards, too. Because in the end, the truth always comes out. Another fucking cocksucker who no doubt goes into crazy resentment mode every time I post one of those cards. I must've posted hundreds of custom cards here over the years and the next time he has anything even remotely positive to say about any of of those cards will be the first time. And this is a guy who cant help but writes posts in every single thread.

ashie62 Feb 11 2020 08:09 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

Batmags, you are a disgrace

batmagadanleadoff Feb 11 2020 08:13 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=ashie62 post_id=31553 time=1581476998 user_id=90] Batmags, you are a disgrace

And now .... the village idiot chimes in.

LWFS Feb 11 2020 08:27 PM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

That ain't helpful. =kcmets post_id=31548 time=1581474707 user_id=53] I'm not spot-on anything. I'll just leave you all alone and you can keep your fucking batmag cards and all wank off.

C'mon, man. You're a good dude, and I've always known you to be open-minded when approached disrespectfully. Have I been disrespectful? Where'd I insult you? With the suggestion that you should, like, Google something? (The reason I'm up on this stuff at all is because someone pointed me in the same direction a while back, and I went down an oh-so-fun research-paper and article K-hole.)

kcmets Feb 12 2020 04:30 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=LWFS post_id=31559 time=1581478073 user_id=84]C'mon, man. You're a good dude, and I've always known you to be open-minded when approached disrespectfully. Have I been disrespectful? Where'd I insult you?

You're right, I'm wrong and I apologize for lumping you in with my frustrated

end-post. What passes here sometimes in the veiled spirit of right vs. wrong,

good vs. evil and 'truth, justice and the American Way' is just mind boggling.

kcmets Feb 12 2020 04:40 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=31552 time=1581476369 user_id=68]And this is a guy who cant help but writes posts in every single thread.

More disinformation, I have like maybe 25% more posts here than you do.

That's likely because of better IGT participation and posting lineups?



You're a fucking blowhard, have been from Day 1.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 12 2020 05:46 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

=kcmets post_id=31565 time=1581507602 user_id=53] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=31552 time=1581476369 user_id=68]And this is a guy who cant help but writes posts in every single thread.

More disinformation, I have like maybe 25% more posts here than you do.

That's likely because of better IGT participation and posting lineups?



You're a fucking blowhard, have been from Day 1.


Good. At least the truth comes out. You've been up my ass from day one, literally torturing me for every breath I everr took here, poisoning my well. I cant win by ignoring your taunts and mocks for eight years and I cant win when I fight back euther. LWFS thinks you're a good dude? WTF does he know? This was before he got here and he doesn't know sbit about any of that. Blowhard? Why's that? Because you don't like me? You haven't liked me since before I ever finished writing my first post and you've had it in for me ever since. Meanwhile, I've never seen someone write so many posts like you with so little to say. The next post you write that's worth re-reading will be the first. Just go fuck yourself already, you miserable petty resentful fuck. And the thing of it is is that you're so fucking clueless, that when I ignored all your taunts and insults for like eight years, you were too fucking stupid to sense that I was being polite and trying to avoid a confrontation.. You instead figured I lacked the awareness to realize you were insulting me like some chump you thought I was. So you continued to insult me every chance you got like the bully you are. And you still cant tell when I'm doing schtick, which unfortunately is more often than not because you have the sense of humor of an eight year old idiot.

kcmets Feb 12 2020 08:10 AM Re: Iowa Caucus Thread 4/3/2020

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