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2020 Vision: Jeurys Familia

Johnny Lunchbucket
Mar 03 2020 05:31 AM

Who knows what to expect with this guy? Here in the 2020 Vison thread, YOU do.

MFS62
Mar 03 2020 07:30 AM
Re: 2020 Vision: Jeurys Familia

Effective setup man in 74G, 77 IP, 1.24 WHIP

Later

Vic Sage
Mar 03 2020 08:07 AM
Re: 2020 Vision: Jeurys Familia

Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Mar 03 2020 12:55 PM

gets suspended for domestic violence.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Mar 03 2020 09:17 AM
Re: 2020 Vision: Jeurys Familia

Vic Sage wrote:

gets suspended for domestic violence.


Always a good bet to go by the back of the baseball card, unfortunately.

Centerfield
Mar 03 2020 10:01 AM
Re: 2020 Vision: Jeurys Familia

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Vic Sage wrote:

gets suspended for domestic violence.


Always a good bet to go by the back of the baseball card, unfortunately.


Except that in Familia's case, it never happened. It's important to make a distinction between DV cases that are dropped due to lack of cooperation or lack of evidence, and Familia's case, where it is affirmatively determined that domestic violence did not take place.



Familia was arrested for DV because the statute is intentionally overbroad and requires arrest any time they see any injury on the wife. (this time, it was scratches on her chest) In some cases, the charges are dropped because the victim refuses to cooperate, or there is insufficient evidence to prosecute. Here, an investigation was conducted and it was affirmatively determined that DV did not take place. Not only were the charges dropped, but the arrest was expunged from his record. This is an important distinction.



The statute needs to be broad because DV is so underreported. But the downside is that you get a lot of false positives. It can only work if those that were wrongfully arrested can truly be cleared.



Familia drank too much, felt belligerent, then barricaded himself in his bathroom so he wouldn't harm anyone else. The man is obviously working through some things, but to have this self control is the exact opposite of the cowardice that results in beating one's spouse. Familia's wife called the cops not out of fear for herself, but out of fear for that he would harm himself.



I don't pretend to know what he is going through, but one thing he shouldn't have to deal with is the stigma of domestic violence.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Mar 03 2020 10:57 AM
Re: 2020 Vision: Jeurys Familia

Thanks for the reminder on that... now that you mention it sounds familiar.



Fammy certainly went through some stuff

Centerfield
Mar 03 2020 11:17 AM
Re: 2020 Vision: Jeurys Familia

Yeah. One of my pet peeves is the general Met fan attitude (not here) towards the DV arrests.



Jose Reyes. Threw his wife threw a shower door. Still adored by most Mets fans, because he smiles a lot and does cool handshakes.



Jeurys Familia. Never touched his wife. DV arrest expunged from his record. Reviled by most Mets fans who blame him for 2015.

Edgy MD
Mar 03 2020 11:31 AM
Re: 2020 Vision: Jeurys Familia

Reyes also found the time to father a child on the side and keep it secret from his wife and four other kids until the girlfriend took him to court when the secret payments arrangement didn't work out.



And they never, ever do. Trust me on this.

Lefty Specialist
Mar 03 2020 12:02 PM
Re: 2020 Vision: Jeurys Familia

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Who knows what to expect with this guy? Here in the 2020 Vison thread, YOU do.


Actually, I don't have the slightest idea. Could be great or could be banished. All I can say is I don't trust him in a key situation if there are other options available.

Vic Sage
Mar 03 2020 12:55 PM
Re: 2020 Vision: Jeurys Familia

Vic Sage wrote:

gets suspended for domestic violence.




gets suspended for unfair ACCUSATION of domestic violence, which is later dismissed, but not until it drives him to drink, resulting in a rehab stint.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Mar 03 2020 02:25 PM
Re: 2020 Vision: Jeurys Familia

lol.



I am pessimisstic on Betances and Diaz so feel I gotta go all-in on a return to form by Fammy this year. 5-1, 2.87, 30 saves, good solid work when we need it and after Diaz is sidelines with a bullshit injury for the org to save face, if not save games.

Edgy MD
Mar 03 2020 02:27 PM
Re: 2020 Vision: Jeurys Familia

That's a pretty good season to work around an unjust arrest, a drinking problem, and a rehab stint.

smg58
Mar 03 2020 04:35 PM
Re: 2020 Vision: Jeurys Familia

Like Diaz, the error bars are huge. I'll aim for a conservative resurgence: a 3.50 ERA over 65 IP.