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Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

Marshmallowmilkshake Feb 16 2020 02:49 PM

Lowrie shows up with a rather large brace on his leg, says it's to alleviate symptoms, but won't reveal what those symptoms are. "This is just a brace that alleviates my symptoms and makes me feel like myself," Lowrie said. "Like I said, I'm wearing this brace to alleviate my symptoms and so I can feel like myself... I don't want to get into specifics of symptoms."

Edgy MD Feb 16 2020 03:17 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

When you immediately repeat yourself, it instantly makes your claim more credible. Like I said, it's more believable if you make your claim a second time, right away.

Marshmallowmilkshake Feb 16 2020 03:37 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

Something tells me we don't need to worry about finding a spot to play Jed.

LWFS Feb 16 2020 03:39 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

Yay! No roster crunch! Also: hooray for Giyormay!

Frayed Knot Feb 16 2020 04:40 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

Well at least he doesn't have Coronavirus ... not that we know of anyway.

bmfc1 Feb 16 2020 08:25 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

Lowrie could become known as "Brodie's Folly". They didn't need him but the former CAA Agent's gotta help out his former clients, he was dead weight last season and things aren't off to a great start this season. Plus, of course, it ties up the limited money that is available to help the team.

MFS62 Feb 17 2020 06:24 AM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

Lowrie could become known as "Brodie's Folly". They didn't need him but the former CAA Agent's gotta help out his former clients, he was dead weight last season and things aren't off to a great start this season. Plus, of course, it ties up the limited money that is available to help the team. But the title of Brodie's Folly could change over time if Diaz continues his decline and Kelenic reaches the potential all the scouts and evaluators say he will. Also, who knows what other title-worthy moves Brodie will make? As For Lowrie, at least nothing he has suffered has been contagious (knocking wood). Later

Ceetar Feb 17 2020 06:55 AM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

of course Lowrie is actively on the field doing stuff, Diaz has been working with Pedro Martinez and his pitches do in fact still actually look good, and Cano out-hit Alonso in the second half last year. so lots of story still to be written.

smg58 Feb 17 2020 07:22 AM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

I'm just worried that this will wind up becoming the longest thread in the history of the CPF. In Lowrie's defense, he has been unlucky to an unforeseeable degree. (I mean, it's not like he was chasing wild boars or anything.) But bmfc is right that he was never needed, and the Mets were lucky that he wound up not taking time away from McNeil.

Frayed Knot Feb 19 2020 07:27 AM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

=smg58 post_id=31891 time=1581949326 user_id=62]In Lowrie's defense, he has been unlucky to an unforeseeable degree.

That's pretty much where I'm at w/Lowrie. He was coming off back to back 600+ AB seasons with OPS's over 800 in each and did so at the not yet old ages 33 & 34

including an AS appearance plus some back of the ballot MVP points in 2018



As far as the 'not needed' part goes, that's fair to a degree and there's certainly a reason to believe that he would have taken time away from McNeil. But looked

at another way, it's not like McNeil and his 225 ML ABs heading into his age 27 season was a known quantity, hoping and knowing are two different things and it's

easy to know McNeil was going to do what he did in hindsight. An argument could be made that it would be more accurate to say that some combo of the Squirrel

and a reasonably healthy Lowrie would instead have taken away ABs that wound up going to the likes of Broxton, Altherr, Panik, Gomez, Guillorme, Rajai, and Tejada,

who combined for 405 mostly unproductive PA last season while we would have been busy knocking BVW for being too short-sighted and/or the 'Pons for being too

cheap to go out and get an insurance policy like Lowrie who was available the previous winter 'for nothing more than money'.

ashie62 Feb 19 2020 12:49 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

Jed Lowrie is old and far removed from what he has done in the past Anything nice would be gravy

Ceetar Feb 19 2020 01:02 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

wrong again

Frayed Knot Feb 19 2020 02:01 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

=ashie62 post_id=32025 time=1582141753 user_id=90] Jed Lowrie is old and far removed from what he has done in the past Anything nice would be gravy

Once again: he played a full season, was an All-Star, and got some back of the ballot votes for MVP in 2018.

He didn't turn old and useless between the end of that season and when the Mets signed him three months later.

If this injury(s) makes him so going forward then so be it, but that doesn't make the original signing a folly.

Edgy MD Feb 19 2020 03:03 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

What bothered me is that the team refused to use him in the field once when he was finally activated down the stretch, and Mickey Callaway got all Willie-like churlish when asked about it. You'd've thought somebody said something about seeing him tomorrow.

Vic Sage Feb 20 2020 09:01 AM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

is there a Lowrie thread in the archives from when he was acquired? I'd be interested in seeing what people thought about the signing at the time.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 20 2020 09:07 AM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

Here it is: Jed Lowrie--We Care About Him Now

LWFS Feb 20 2020 10:58 AM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

We were appropriately wary. I was optimistic, but not without reservations. I do enjoy the Centerfield "Arrested Development"-narrator-style drop-in at the thread's end, there.

MFS62 Feb 20 2020 12:13 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

A few days after the Mets signed Lowrie, the MFYs signed DJ Le Mahiew for $2 million more per year. Lowrie had a better OPS+ and oWAR (9 VS 3.2) than DJ in the two years prior to the signings and DJ was older than Lowrie. It looked like the Mets had gotten the better of those deals. Funny how it worked out in 2019. (Actually, NOT funny at all) Let's see how 2020 works out. Later

Lefty Specialist Feb 20 2020 01:06 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

Yanks signed LaMahieu to play second base. Lowrie was supposed to be a utility guy as we already had Cano at second. And even if he's perfectly healthy in 2020, he's still just a utility guy; he's not going to dislodge either Cano or McNeil unless they're injured.

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 20 2020 01:23 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

I think our inclinations in that thread last year were correct at some level: Brodie musta had other plans in mind when Lowrie was acquired. Sorta like how he wound up with both Stroman and Wheely. If you back into it seems like they got Stroman with the intention of sending Wheeler packing, he just didn't or couldn't complete a second deal. Rookie GM

MFS62 Feb 20 2020 01:48 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

Lefty Specialist wrote: Yanks signed LaMahieu to play second base. Lowrie was supposed to be a utility guy as we already had Cano at second. And even if he's perfectly healthy in 2020, he's still just a utility guy; he's not going to dislodge either Cano or McNeil unless they're injured. I don't think so. He still had Didi for short, Glyber for second and Andujar (ROY?) for third. With that infield (Andujar hadn't been injured yet), seems like DJ was insurance, just like Lowrie was. Later

Edgy MD Feb 20 2020 01:57 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

Alternatively, Brodie Van Halen might not have had a specific deal in mind, but was looking for a fungible guy who could be penciled in at multiple different places, depending on how the roster continues to sort itself out, or on how injuries sort themselves out. I remember the idea with Xavier Nady was that the Mets had set aside money for a big run producer, but the guys they were talking about were both outfielders and firstbasemen, and so they got Nady first to be their firstbaseman if they got Manny Ramirez, or be their rightfielder if they got Carlos Delgado, which they did. I think super utility guys are seeing their stock go up because they give GMs that sort of flexibility. Going into 2019 with the multi-positional flexibility of Lowrie, McNeil, Davis, and even Dom Smith really put the team in a good position to adapt going forward as injuries played out. Unfortunately, one of the biggest of those injuries was to Lowrie.

vtmet7 Feb 21 2020 11:15 AM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

the problem with Lowrie isn't so much his age, as much as his injury history... He's had 12 years of MLB experience, but has only had 4 seasons with more than 340 At Bats...and of those seasons, he's only had 3 seasons that I would judge as more than mediocre (2018, 2017 and 2013)...if you go to his wikipedia page, you have more mentions of being injured than accomplishments... Is a healthy Lowrie better than a healthy Luis Guillorme (from an offensive perspective) or a healthy Wilmer Flores (from a defensive perspective, and yes, I know that Wilmer is gone)? yes but...I really don't expect a healthy Lowrie in a Mets uniform

LWFS Feb 21 2020 08:49 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

HEY! VTMET!!!

bmfc1 Feb 23 2020 02:46 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1231695384956874756 Will he be ready by 2021?

86dreamer Feb 25 2020 02:24 PM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

I have worn a rather large brace on my left knee for 20+ years. based on my experience and no recollection of any other MLB player playing effectively with something similar, i am pretty sure it will not work out for jed to be anything other than a PH or DH unless he can get healthy enough to play without the brace.

vtmet7 Feb 27 2020 11:35 AM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

=LWFS post_id=32179 time=1582343355 user_id=84]HEY! VTMET!!!

how ya doing... I'm just watching it snow, and waiting for baseball...

Edgy MD Mar 02 2020 10:28 AM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

I've got to think Edwin Nuñez was about them going a little big on veteran utility infield depth, under concern that Lowrie may not be able to contribute.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 02 2020 11:10 AM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

https://www.tcdb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/62361/62361-4689Bk.jpg> https://www.tcdb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/62361/62361-4689Fr.jpg>

Edgy MD Mar 02 2020 11:20 AM Re: Jed Lowrie injuries 2020

Sorry, I'm conflating. I clearly meant Edwinuardo.