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"Curse of the Ramones"

41Forever Mar 26 2020 06:52 AM

[url]https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-curse-of-the-ramones?utm_source=pocket-newtab This Rolling Stone story appeared in my feed yesterday. It's both fascinating and really sad. I knew they weren't getting along at the end, but I didn't realize that had gone on for so long. Johnny comes off as a really challenging person. But he was really nice to me in the one random encounter I had with him.

kcmets Mar 26 2020 07:21 PM Re: "Curse of the Ramones"

They were fucking nuts! [YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez4yjw5Y94s[/YOUTUBE]

Edgy MD Mar 26 2020 08:15 PM Re: "Curse of the Ramones"

For those who need context, Joey supposedly wrote that song about Johnny stealing his girlfriend. And some accounts had him actually using anti-Semitic insinuations to turn her family against Joey. Another account, from Joey's brother, was that it was about a black girlfriend of his whose family made her stop seeing him. But even if the first account was wrong, what a kick in the nuts to Johnny to have to play it every night knowing that, if it isn't about him, a big chunk of the fans think it is.

kcmets Mar 26 2020 08:27 PM Re: "Curse of the Ramones"

Stole his girl and married her, yet they played on and on and on...

Edgy MD Mar 26 2020 08:29 PM Re: "Curse of the Ramones"

The real story, to me, is that, as fucked up in different ways they all were, and as much as they drove each other crazy, they were each devoted to the vision of the band. They never took a plane, and hardly even the rare bus. They did tour after out of a van into their fifties, Johnny and Joey sitting next to each other and never talking. After Richie failed as a drummer, Marky and Tommy seemed to agree to take turns being in the band, both of them sick of the shit but committed to keeping the flag flying. Tommy probably got more of the rare guitar solos on the records than Johnny, who turned in a few, but was shy about breaking out of his comfort zone. DeeDee had the biggest and deepest song catalog and he was probably more fucked up than any of them. And he and Tommy kept giving the band songs even when they were no longer members, with Tommy returning to produce as well. That's kind of beautiful, considering that it's not like the band was making them filthy rich.

kcmets Mar 27 2020 02:45 AM Re: "Curse of the Ramones"

The studio version should be posted just for posterity [YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOpdKnoG8hE[/YOUTUBE]

Fman99 Mar 27 2020 06:46 AM Re: "Curse of the Ramones"

Wow, intense. Love the damn Ramones.

kcmets May 19 2020 09:08 AM Re: "Curse of the Ramones"

Reading the 'lunch' thread made me think of this crazy-ass song... [YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se2hSDelbHU[/YOUTUBE]

Edgy MD May 19 2020 11:31 AM Re: "Curse of the Ramones"

It figures Johnny would wear Nike.

kcmets May 19 2020 12:00 PM Re: "Curse of the Ramones"

"It's not about the sneakers, just turn up the speakers!"

kcmets Apr 03 2021 07:01 PM Re: "Curse of the Ramones"

I feel like I found a mystery tape in a box in the basement... [YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veeDQC1cj2Q[/YOUTUBE]

kcmets Apr 15 2021 01:18 PM Re: "Curse of the Ramones"

Wow, 20 years today since Joey exited stage right. Where the hell did those two decades go? [YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_6f3Ik7Suw[/YOUTUBE]

TransMonk Apr 15 2021 02:47 PM Re: "Curse of the Ramones"

https://twitter.com/netflixfilm/status/1382740502391320578?s=21

Edgy MD May 12 2021 01:32 PM Re: "Curse of the Ramones"

[fimg=600]https://images.ctfassets.net/23wh7e5ryr18/photo-43868/2dcc45b8ac9fb06d10c98f38812e950b/43868-joan-jett-joey-97.png?fm=jpg&fl=progressive&w=900&q=50[/fimg]