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Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Edgy MD Jun 08 2020 09:37 PM

In what will hopefully be the last MLB draft ever, the Mets pick 19th. And while a lot of rankings and mock drafts diverge mightily at that point, one name that keeps coming bouncing into the picture is Pennsylvania high school outfielder Austin Hendrick. He seeminlgy fits the Mets' recent profile because they've taken advanced high school bats (Jarred Kelenic and Brett Baty) in the first round the last two years. But then they turned around and flipped Kelenic, so what does that even mean? But he's a 19-year-old senior, so he fits their profile. Anyhow, he's generally listed third among high school hitters in the mockerinos, thanks to a wicked fast swing (see below). Downside is that he's in a good position to demand over-slot value (he'd be eligible to re-enter the draft after only one year of college), and the Mets may be in cost control mode with the team on the block and revenues non-existent. But look at this rip. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/BFScout/status/1153366076299890688[/TWEET] Another name I either keep hearing a lot, or simply heard once but remembered, because it's a cool name, is another prep outfielder, Californian Pete Crow-Armstrong. He's behind Hendrick as a hitter, perhaps, but he's got a strong profile for sticking in center. Wicked fast, athletic, easy movements, and has the old projectible frame that gets the scouts all gooey. Was having a great year at Harvard-Westlake and raising his draft profile before his season got shut down with the pandemic. Need 20 minutes of talking to a dorky high school jock? You're in luck. [YOUTUBE]vGgOSzHtHwI[/YOUTUBE]

nymr83 Jun 08 2020 09:56 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Whichever one of his parents is 'Armstrong' he just needs to sit down with and say "listen mom/dad, we're going to sell a lot of merchandise here, I'm going with 'Crow' on the jersey"

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 09 2020 06:18 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Pete Crow-Armstrong Arm-Pete Crowstrong Strong-Pete Armcrow Strongarm Crow-Pete Crowstrong Pete-Arm I'm into this guy

Benjamin Grimm Jun 09 2020 07:42 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Other anagrams for Pete-Crow Armstrong include: Carpenter Got Worms Camper Wrongs Otter Protest Wrong Cream Retracts Wrong Poem Worst Preterm Conga

MFS62 Jun 09 2020 08:05 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 09 2020 08:06 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Camper Wrongs Otter That was on the National Geographic Channel last night. And it wasn't pretty. Pre-draft ca-ca I've read said their first two picks are likely to be 6'6" lefty pitchers (one in college, one in high school) with them targeting outfielders later in the draft. Stay tuned. Later

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 09 2020 08:06 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

This is fun. Austin Hendrick: Urinated Chinks Raunchiest Kind Haircut Skinned (there's a million of em)

Edgy MD Jun 09 2020 11:35 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Don't get too 'cited about Camper Wrongs-Otter, though. I've got mockers that are seeing him go as high as #7 to the Pirates. Raunchiest Kind has a good chance to be off the board too. One mocketeer has the Mets grabbing up another outfielder with the pornalicious name of Dillon Diggler. Scouts dig his bat control, and like Dale Murphy or Craig Biggio or Bryce Harper, he combines the disciplined ruggedness for catcher and the athleticism for centerfield, and could end up sticking at either. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/eccentricladdie/status/1256663119440621568[/TWEET] The Mets also select at #52 and #69 (compensation for losing Zack Wheelie).

Benjamin Grimm Jun 09 2020 11:54 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

I think you mean "Old Grilled Gin". Or maybe "Long Girdle Lid" or "Gold Gill Diner"

MFS62 Jun 09 2020 12:04 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

I can just hear John Sterling saying "A dinger by Dingler" now. Later

Frayed Knot Jun 09 2020 12:32 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Dillon Diggler, one of the (presumably MANY) children of Dirk.

Edgy MD Jun 09 2020 02:20 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Working nickname: "The Boogie Knight."

LWFS Jun 09 2020 04:01 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Dingler_Dillon-34-e1571758724974-1024x828.jpg> "I'm a star, I'm a star-- I'm a big, bright shining star."

A Boy Named Seo Jun 10 2020 05:06 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Anyone watching? This thing is starting NOW!!!! The relevant local buzzband "21 Pilots" just played the show in.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 10 2020 05:17 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Tigers draft Turkleton from ASU #1 overall. Dr. Kelso would be proud. https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/809089215304794112/A8HlD0GW_400x400.jpg>

A Boy Named Seo Jun 10 2020 05:26 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

O's draft lefty college slugger Heston Kjerstad at #2. He is famous for getting his name from a white guy name generator his parents found on the internet.* *might be false. might also be true.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 10 2020 05:28 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Marlins get college fireballer Max Meyer #3 overall. Leiter just called him "an alpha male type guy". THE MOCK DRAFTS HAVE ALL GONE TO SHIT, PEOPLE

Edgy MD Jun 10 2020 07:25 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

In a strange bit of draft predictions working out, which almost never happens , the Mets have selected California schoolboy outfielder Pete Crow-Armstrong, who they've been reportedly in love with since last Fall. Pete is from LA's elite Harvard-Westlake High School so he's all about the hyphens. Both of his parents are Hollywood actors, one a Crow, and the other an Armstrong. https://www.mlb.com/news/pete-crow-armstrong-facts-to-know Watch him kill it at the prospect workout. [YOUTUBE]77lqBRvybiE[/YOUTUBE] He's like a young Billy Beane out there!

LWFS Jun 10 2020 09:07 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 10 2020 09:08 PM

CA-CAW (How hard is it to spell Armstrong?)

Benjamin Grimm Jun 10 2020 09:08 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Nice! It's good that we got that guy who was already anagrammed.

Edgy MD Jun 10 2020 10:32 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Pete's mama, Ashley "Don't Call Me 'Sheryl'" Crow, shown here playing Billy Heywood's mother in the Dallas Green-era baseball family movie, Little Big League. [fimg=500]https://img.mlbstatic.com/mlb-images/image/private/t_16x9/t_w1024/mlb/syhprkksjh5rduybovtm[/fimg] Pete's paw, Matthew John Armstrong. He played Pete Pryor in the Art Howe-era TV series American Dreams. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/supernatural/images/1/1c/600full-matthew-john-armstrong.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20120707225817> He's supposedly been misidentified as a former Geico caveman on more than one occasion. They met filming the Gangster Jerry-era TV show Heroes, a favorite of Vic Sage, wherever he is. If that's true, I suppose Pete had a different biological dad, because otherwise, he'd be, like, 13 or 14.

bmfc1 Jun 11 2020 03:49 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Do the Mets get Timothy Busfield, too? Molly Knight has a fine profile of Pete Crow-Armstrong in The Athletic. He's a mindful, thoughtful person who thinks about more than baseball--just like another Pete we know: https://theathletic.com/1865359/2020/06/10/an-mlb-managers-dream-the-promise-and-awakening-of-pete-crow-armstrong/ If you don't subscribe, I've brought a clip: [BLOCKQUOTE]I ask Crow-Armstrong about how he feels about his big night. “I'm super excited. Me and everybody else in this position have been working our asses off our whole lives for this moment, and it feels right to celebrate,” he says. He then takes a long, deep breath. “But at the same time, there are so many more important things happening in the world right now,” he adds. “I find myself trying to make space for the joy in my own personal life that is happening tonight, but tomorrow it's back to what matters. I hope we don't lose the momentum.”[/BLOCKQUOTE]

MFS62 Jun 11 2020 06:04 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

After the pick, one of the ESPN analysts said that Pete doesn't have the hit tool necessary to go far ... yet. That seems to contradict the scouting reports which say he can hit, but not with much power. I'll insert my annual concern here about high school lefty hitters not having much much experience against lefty pitchers. Later

Edgy MD Jun 11 2020 06:22 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Well, he's played on the national team against three different levels, so he's probably got more high-end experience than most.

Centerfield Jun 11 2020 06:32 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Seems like a great kid. That being said, at number 19, you'd think we could get a guy with no question marks about his hitting. Hope he proves me wrong.

bmfc1 Jun 11 2020 07:59 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

CF: That's valid but this Pete was supposed to go earlier. Keith Law, smart guy at The Athletic, had the Mets taking a college SP because his mock guessed that they wouldn't find the bat they wanted still available at 19. A few teams, including Boston, made surprise picks so C-A was still there (Law had him at 12).

A Boy Named Seo Jun 11 2020 10:28 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

The Mets have 6 picks this year. When is the compensation round? I didn't see it in MLB's messy draft central.

ashie62 Jun 11 2020 10:45 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Don't pick high school guys, just don't

Edgy MD Jun 11 2020 11:08 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Pourquoi pas?

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 11 2020 11:22 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

because Dwight Gooden and Darryl Strawberry SUCK ASS, that's why.

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2020 01:26 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

at number 19, you'd think we could get a guy with no question marks about his hitting. =bmfc1 post_id=38566 time=1591883943 user_id=73] CF: That's valid but this Pete was supposed to go earlier. Keith Law, smart guy at The Athletic, had the Mets taking a college SP because his mock guessed that they wouldn't find the bat they wanted still available at 19. A few teams, including Boston, made surprise picks so C-A was still there (Law had him at 12).

Keep in mind also that there's always going to be Some questions hanging over just about everyone, particularly so with high schoolers.

True 'Can't Miss' prospects rarely exist outside of the top five overall picks (often there aren't even that many) and even can't miss prospects can and often do miss.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2020 04:20 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Funny to see the first round include only 29 picks and then realizing ... oh, yeah ... In the second round, the Mets rolled the dice on Mississippi State's J.T. Ginn. J.T. (who I'm going to assume is named for Justin Timberlake) was a former first rounder (Dodgers, 2018) who instead elected to go the college route. After being the SEC Frosh of the Year, he kicked off his sophomore season by getting knocked out early in the opener and then checking in for Tommy John surgery in March. As much as the pick was a gamble, taking a guy while his stock was falling, the Mets might have to match the Dodgers' first round $$ in order to see the gamble through.

nymr83 Jun 11 2020 04:29 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

I dont know. If I was him I'd take a long hard look at the idea of getting under contract and rehabbing under the eyes of major League doctors. Will there even be college baseball next spring? And with Tommy John would he even pitch at all? The minor league season if there is one goes several months longer to where he could pitch off a mound in a game in 15 months after surgery. Whats the draft stock look like if nobody has seen him for another year?

batmagadanleadoff Jun 11 2020 04:31 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

In Pete Crow-Armstrong, the Mets see a ‘left-handed magician' Excerpt: With the 19th pick Wednesday night, New York snagged center fielder Pete Crow-Armstrong out of Harvard-Westlake High School in Los Angeles. The 18-year-old Crow-Armstrong is a defensively gifted athlete with one of the highest ceilings in the draft — and the chance to jump ahead of every other outfielder in the Mets' system. “All spring, I called him the left-handed magician in center field,” said Tommy Tanous, senior adviser to amateur scouting. “He's one of the rare players you watch in batting practice play defense … He's a fearless center fielder. He's probably the easiest center fielder I've had a chance to scout.” “The anticipation element to his game is as good as I've seen in a really long time in an amateur center fielder,” said scouting director Marc Tramuta. “There's such a natural glide and ease to what he does in center field. It's just different than everybody else.” https://theathletic.com/1865850/2020/06/11/in-pete-crow-armstrong-the-mets-see-a-left-handed-magician/

Edgy MD Jun 11 2020 04:39 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Yeah, it's a tough choice, and there's certainly an argument that this may be his last chance to cash his chips in, so he might be advised to jump at slot money. A fastball with running action and a "wipeout slider" were both described as double-plus offerings before his season ended, and I get the idea that throwing them might be part of why his season ended. My super-advanced biomechanics studies at Outyerhole University tell me he loads a lot of stored energy in his elbow before exploding out to full extension. [FIMG=250]https://dbukjj6eu5tsf.cloudfront.net/sidearm.sites/msstate.sidearmsports.com/images/2019/6/21/GRN_0864.jpeg[/FIMG] [FIMG=250]https://article-file-photos.s3.amazonaws.com/l_wtlzs220202015839PM.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=250]https://article-file-photos.s3.amazonaws.com/l_liaoi2242020105950PM.jpg[/FIMG]

MFS62 Jun 11 2020 05:06 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Pick 69 Isiah Greene - lefty hitting high school outfielder: From SNY: The Mets selected outfielder Isaiah Greene from Corona High school in Corona, California. Greene, 18, was the No. 62-ranked prospect per MLB.com and has a commitment to Missouri. A lefty-swinging center fielder who plays plus defense and should be able to stick in center, Greene had a huge senior season and "has a chance to be a really exciting, toolsy player," draft analyst Jon Mayo said on the MLB Network broadcast after Greene was drafted. MLB.com scouting report snippet: Even without much polish, Greene really stood out against top competition over the summer and fall. Though he didn't hit as well out of the gate this spring, he may be the most improved player in the area over the last year and there's still plenty of room for growth, giving teams reason to consider the Missouri recruit in the early rounds. Later

MFS62 Jun 11 2020 06:49 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Pick 91 SS Anthony Walters San Diego State The tv guys said he is a defense-first player and that the Mets are picking guys they can sign under-slot to save money to pay JT Ginn (the second round pick). Later

batmagadanleadoff Jun 11 2020 07:03 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

I'm usually, just barely interested in the Mets first round pick. But anything after that, wake me up like three years from now.

MFS62 Jun 11 2020 07:13 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Pick 120 Matthew Dyer U of Arizona. Plays several positions, primarily a catcher https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/baseball/abridged-ua-season-condensed-mlb-draft-haven-t-quelled-matthew-dyer-s-desire/article_f0379b23-7943-5fb6-8fad-a1903c84382d.html Later

batmagadanleadoff Jun 11 2020 07:24 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

=MFS62 post_id=38593 time=1591924416 user_id=60] Pick 120 Matthew Dyer U of Arizona. Plays several positions, primarily a catcher

Anybody heard of this Dyer catcher more than 15 minutes ago, step right up and claim your prize.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2020 07:41 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Maybe Duffy has.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2020 09:00 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Round Five Met Pick is University of New Orleans (go, Privateers!) righthander Eric Orze. Doomed forever to be nicknamed EBN-OZN by me, Eric is a fifth-year senior, so you know ashie loves him. A different sort of risk from the first pitcher (J.T. Ginn) selected by the Mets, Eric's a two-time cancer survivor. Drops his arm in his delivery. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETKeRcSXsAEkMdE.jpg>

Edgy MD Jun 12 2020 04:09 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Orze's money pitch is the splitter — a pitch that has been relegated, by health concerns, to a secondary pitch by those who still throw it. And even those guys have slowed it down to use more as a change of pace, much like the traditional forkball. Orze, though, still lets it fly, Sutter-style. Watch him go, listen to some corporate rock, and enjoy your orzegasm. [YOUTUBE]eb_m1FZndfo[/YOUTUBE]

LWFS Jun 12 2020 07:48 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Sheryl and Lance's kid-- CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE-- seems nice and all, but Garrett Mitchell was still out there? That guy from UCLA with the sweet, close-to-majors-ready bat and the Type 1 diabetes who's also plenty playable in center? Farts.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 25 2020 04:28 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Armcrow Petestrong signs his contract

Edgy MD Jun 25 2020 05:01 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Pretty cool that he came up in the Mlicki/Franco innerview.

MFS62 Jun 30 2020 05:29 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

The Mets have reportedly come to terms with second round draftee JT Ginn for over the slot money. No $ details yet. Later

LWFS Jun 30 2020 04:15 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

=MFS62 post_id=39570 time=1593516576 user_id=60] The Mets have reportedly come to terms with second round draftee JT Ginn for over the slot money. No $ details yet. Later

Gotta say... I do like BVW's draft strategizin'-- maximize available second and third round money by drafting seniors in the mid rounds, and snag an extra first-round talent by going over slot-- so far.

Edgy MD Jun 30 2020 09:55 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

I'm just happy to believe that there is a strategizin'. This is exactly where I'd expect an organization on the block to cut expenses.

LWFS Jul 01 2020 01:15 AM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Edgy MD wrote: I'm just happy to believe that there is a strategizin'. This is exactly where I'd expect an organization on the block to cut expenses. I mean, he's not spending any MORE money than he'd otherwise spend.

Edgy MD Apr 20 2022 09:16 PM Re: Boyz II Men: The 2020 Draft

Syracuse reliever Eric Orze is the last Mets player from this abbreviated MLB draft still in the organization. Mets in the 2020 Draft 1) [CROSSOUT]Pete Crow-Armstrong, of (Harvard-Westlake HS, CA)[/CROSSOUT] Traded to CHC for Javy Baez and Trevor Williams, 7/30/2021 . 2a)[CROSSOUT] J.T. Ginn, p (Mississippi State University, MS)[/CROSSOUT] Traded with Adam Oller to OAK for Chris Bassitt, 3/12/2022. 2b) [CROSSOUT]Isaiah Greene, of (Corona HS, CA)[/CROSSOUT] Traded with Amed Rosario, Andres Gimenez, and Josh Wolf for Francisco Lindor and Carlos Carrasco, 1/16/2021 . 3) [CROSSOUT]Anthony Walters, ss (Sand Diego State Univ., CA[/CROSSOUT] Released, 8/2/2021. 4) [CROSSOUT]Matthew Dyer, c (University of Arizona, AZ)[/CROSSOUT] Traded with Tommy Hunter to TBR for Rich Hill, 7/23/2021. 5) Eric Orze, p (University of New Orleans, LA)=#0000BF] Currently with Syracuse. This, of course, was the only draft the team participated in under Brodie Van Wangenen's supervision, so hs legacy is barely hanging in there.