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The Black Lives Matter Thread

batmagadanleadoff Jun 14 2020 04:19 AM

That police station in Minneapolis that protesters burned down -- not even a start. It's gonna take a hell of a lot more burning down to stop this. Protestors light Wendy's on fire, enter interstate after Atlanta death Excerpt: An Atlanta Wendy's where Rayshard Brooks, 27, was fatally shot by police Friday night was set on fire. June 13, 2020 - Atlanta - Wendy's in flames, after demonstrators blocked the interstate and set it on fire. Protestors gather at University Ave. at the Atlanta Wendy's where Rayshard Brooks, a 27-year-old black man, was shot and killed by Atlanta police Friday evening during a struggle in a Wendy's drive-thru line. The restaurant caught fire Saturday after protestors broke windows at the restaurant and threw fireworks inside. https://www.ajc.com/news/local/protestors-light-wendy-fire-enter-interstate-after-atlanta-death/oaZtPSD0yipmtBdbSLsp3K/

Ceetar Jun 14 2020 06:35 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

good. burn it all down until real change happens. Don't let the media and the politicians make some token change and stop paying attention.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 14 2020 06:41 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

=Ceetar post_id=38649 time=1592138133 user_id=102] good. burn it all down until real change happens. Don't let the media and the politicians make some token change and stop paying attention.

Oh, that's what it's gonna take. When a Civil War defeat, Reconstruction and a 20 years Civil Rights movement barely changes anything, there's really nothing left to do. I just hope that some of this rioting is also a response to the cesspool of criminality that occupies the White House.

Edgy MD Jun 14 2020 06:54 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

You guys goin' burnin' after this chat?

Ceetar Jun 14 2020 06:57 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

I think the DC folk have been, though I haven't seen much coverage of it lately. When the idiot wasn't timidly descending ramps after his drugged speech at West Point, he was building a wall around the white house and the protesters turned it into a memorial. not sure where we're at now. Edgy MD wrote: You guys goin' burnin' after this chat? if I knew where it'd help.

Edgy MD Jun 14 2020 07:11 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

I figured.

kcmets Jun 14 2020 07:50 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Uh, arson is not the answer to anything. Burning things and people? Really? That's what youse are ROOTING for? Good golly Miss Molly.

Ceetar Jun 14 2020 08:01 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

I'm rooting for change and progress, and NO ONE PAYS ATTENTION if you try asking nicely. That Wendy's is not safe. someone was just murdered there friday and the police even know who did it and haven't charge him! If we can't have a fast food place that's safe for the public, it's hard to feel bad if it's gone.

Ceetar Jun 14 2020 08:19 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

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kcmets Jun 14 2020 08:39 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Well, seeing my friends and colleagues condoning (if not applauding) the burning down of restaurants and municipal buildings and putting innocent lives in danger while doing so is not doing much for my already somewhat shot mental health. Just sayin'.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 14 2020 08:47 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

It's really hard to buy into the argument that there's something fundamentally unsafe about that particular Wendy's. Do we need to destroy every building that hosts a murder? If so, that would include the Dakota Building and St Patrick's Cathedral.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 14 2020 08:52 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

=kcmets post_id=38656 time=1592142615 user_id=53] Uh, arson is not the answer to anything. Burning things and people? Really? That's what youse are ROOTING for? Good golly Miss Molly.

I'm not rooting for burning. And I'm certainly not going outside to burn anything. Especially with this deadly and very contagious virus out there. But that's what it's gonna take. I'm just opining. That's the only leverage they really have. And we have 400 years of history to support this. Cop's are gonna continue to brutalize and cover-up even with these riots because they can. Not because they shouldn't. Because they can, and because they can get away with it.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 14 2020 09:19 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

This week's New Yorker cover --- Say their Names [FIMG=999]https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ee2d598f3e036cfcf82b2ea/4:3/w_1708,h_1281,c_limit/coverStory-web_box_PROMO_Nelson_Floyd_NY200622.jpg[/FIMG] Click on link for visual guide to faces featured on cover. https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2020-06-22

Ceetar Jun 14 2020 10:28 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

=kcmets post_id=38659 time=1592145556 user_id=53] Well, seeing my friends and colleagues condoning (if not applauding) the burning down of restaurants and municipal buildings and putting innocent lives in danger while doing so is not doing much for my already somewhat shot mental health. Just sayin'.

innocent life, in a Wendy's? it's not like it's a black EMT's house.

kcmets Jun 14 2020 10:39 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Get some rest, sounds like your cheese is about to slide off the cracker.

Edgy MD Jun 14 2020 11:16 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=38661 time=1592146332 user_id=68]But that's what it's gonna take. I'm just opining. That's the only leverage they really have.

Not if the rest of us have their back.



But man, if my role as a white dude is nothing more than rooting on my black neighbors to burn more shit, while reclining from the comfort of my covid-free lockdown, I can't see how I'm helping anybubs.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 14 2020 11:32 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

The country's had 400 years to help them. How much longer should they have to wait? When is enough enough? Enough should've been enough way before I was even born. And we're still all-deliberate-speeding them. And the scumbag GOP has taken over the country and intends to set it back 100, maybe 200 years. Black felons in Florida still can't vote even though the State overwhelmingly passed a resolution to abolish its draconian felon anti-voting laws. The Supreme Court shredded the voting rights act and is now hell bent on upholding all forms of voting suppression laws. All that's left now is for the GOP to proclaim that the sun revolves around the earth and for the AMA to bring back blood-letting and leech therapy. Oh, and the nutjobs that are propping up the vile GOP that believe in the invisible man in the fucking sky with the magical powers that will fix everything -- but only if you telepath your secret thoughts and wishes to him. That's real progress. Real progress doesn't typically happen without violent revolution. Because that's all that the power structure will really listen to.

Lefty Specialist Jun 14 2020 12:20 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Well, burning a Wendy's doesn't really solve the problem. What goes a long way toward solving the problem is being able to fire those Philly cops. But police unions have gotten so strong and so confrontational that it's impossible to fire a bad cop and make sure he doesn't work somewhere else. They will reflexively defend the most heinous behavior and attack anyone who doesn't support them. Until something is done about actually being allowed to hold police accountable for their actions, all of this is just talk. And you'll keep having George Floyds. Cuomo signed legislation this week banning chokeholds and opening disciplinary records. So if an officer is caught on video giving someone a chokehold, he'll go through a long process during which he'll be paid and probably get off on a technicality. Even if he's found guilty and fired, he'll quickly find a job somewhere else, even though his records will be open. This is not to say all cops are monsters. But there's no incentive to rein in the ones who are.

Edgy MD Jun 14 2020 12:48 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=38668 time=1592155933 user_id=68]How much longer should they have to wait?

I'm not asking anybody to wait. You're putting something on me that I didn't write.



You're also seemingly going back on forth on the burning question about burning.

Fman99 Jun 14 2020 07:24 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

I am just sad, sad for people who are mistreated, who can't get a fair shake. I'm not big on destruction.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 14 2020 08:38 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Edgy MD wrote: How much longer should they have to wait? I'm not asking anybody to wait. You're putting something on me that I didn't write. You're also seemingly going back on forth on the burning question about burning. It was really a rhetorical question. I wasn't specifically looking for your answer. I don't get the "back and forth" stuff you wrote. A little help? Another slow baseball day, huh?

Centerfield Jun 16 2020 07:20 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Cops have to be held accountable for their actions. And civil suits have to hit them in their own pockets. That's the only way they will police themselves.

Centerfield Jun 16 2020 07:31 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

And yes. It's silly to allege that this Wendy's presented any danger.

Edgy MD Jun 16 2020 07:38 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

An armed, self-styled militia of counter-protestors showed up to menace protestors in Albuquerque. Obviously, menacing gets old after a while when the police refuse to bust you but protestors refuse to be intimidated, so they took a few shots. One protestor was originally reported killed but is now reported to be in critical but stable condition. A Boy Named Seo, check in and let us know you're alright!

MFS62 Jun 16 2020 07:42 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

BLM is "more popular than Trump". And Tucker Carlson is sad (no great surprise): https://news.yahoo.com/tucker-carlson-laments-black-lives-015243179.html Later

batmagadanleadoff Jun 16 2020 07:52 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

BLM is "more popular than Trump"..... I hope so. Because when African-Americans come out to vote in strong numbers, Republicans cannot win a presidential election. They didn't get excited over Hillary and that was a huge factor in Trump's 2016 win.

Edgy MD Jun 16 2020 08:10 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

A Boy Named Seo has reported in, angry but unharmed.

Willets Point Jun 16 2020 08:14 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Seo was tweeting about the incident last night so he appears to be unharmed.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 16 2020 08:16 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Willets Point wrote: Seo was tweeting about the incident last night so he appears to be unharmed. What incident last night? Curious here.

Ceetar Jun 16 2020 08:16 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

The New Mexico Republican party has issued a press release stating that it _doesn't_ condemn the violence of a former republican candidate for office who shot someone. Dunno if this is the same incident. They initially condemned it thinking it was protesters, but then retracted.

Willets Point Jun 16 2020 08:17 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Willets Point wrote: Seo was tweeting about the incident last night so he appears to be unharmed. What incident last night? Curious here. Edgy MD wrote: An armed, self-styled militia of counter-protestors showed up to menace protestors in Albuquerque. Obviously, menacing gets old after a while when the police refuse to bust you but protestors refuse to be intimidated, so they took a few shots. One protestor was originally reported killed but is now reported to be in critical but stable condition. A Boy Named Seo, check in and let us know you're alright!

batmagadanleadoff Jun 16 2020 10:26 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Willets Point wrote: Willets Point wrote: Seo was tweeting about the incident last night so he appears to be unharmed. What incident last night? Curious here. Edgy MD wrote: An armed, self-styled militia of counter-protestors showed up to menace protestors in Albuquerque. Obviously, menacing gets old after a while when the police refuse to bust you but protestors refuse to be intimidated, so they took a few shots. One protestor was originally reported killed but is now reported to be in critical but stable condition. A Boy Named Seo, check in and let us know you're alright! Good ol' Charley Pierce on Albequerque, excerpted -- natch! Excerpt: What little I understood about this country is now completely obsolete. Things have come so unstrung that I look out from the aquarium that is my life now and I don't recognize what I'm looking at anymore. The news is exotic and unfamiliar. My fellow citizens appear to be at the end of a very short rope. And, in general, the country seems unprepared for anything that might happen, and a lot of things are happening at once. There is now only one overriding question: What is this bullshit, anyway? Item: things got wildly out of hand in Albuquerque on Monday night. [***] This is the second episode that I know of in which armed camo clowns gathered to protect a statue. (There was an earlier one in Brandenburg, Kentucky.) Now, someone has been shot. It's only a matter of time before one of these episodes turns into a serious firefight in which unarmed demonstrators get caught between the police and the militia—and neither group, I feel safe in observing, is predisposed to support the demonstrators if things get wild all at once. [***] This is really time for serious national leadership, which I seem to recall as having been something valuable. Instead, we've got a president* who seems to relish stoking this unrest, a supine Republican Party that's just trying to get to November without disintegrating entirely, and general prayer rising in the country that we just get through another day without a mass casualty event, or yet another African-American citizen's dying in dubious circumstances. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32879665/nypd-shake-shack-bleach-poisoning/

batmagadanleadoff Jun 16 2020 10:45 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Viral video alert! Racist scumbag "Karen" accuses Filipino black man of defacing his own property with "Black Lives Matter" graffiti, never considering that a black man could own a house in her upscale San Fran neighborhood. She thought she could disguise her racism in politeness. The sanctimonious typewriter thought the homeowner needed her approval to express his political opinions. She called the cops, who showed up and didn't even bother getting out of their patrol car because they immediately recognized the homeowner, a law-abiding citizen who's been living in that house for about 20 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNOro7utXpQ The husband in the background was eventually fired from his job after the video went viral. The homeowner, James Juanillo, was on Lawrence O'Donnell's MSNBC show last night, where he gave a wonderfully persuasive and articulate interview, answering the tough question -- why didn't he simply tell the "Karen" that he was the owner of the home in question -- which he refused to do, by design. If I find video of Juanillo's MSNBC appearance, I'll post it. California ‘Karen' apologizes to Filipino man for calling cops over his chalk art https://nypost.com/2020/06/14/karen-woman-apologizes-to-filipino-man-for-calling-cops-over-chalk/

A Boy Named Seo Jun 16 2020 12:07 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Willets Point wrote: Willets Point wrote: Seo was tweeting about the incident last night so he appears to be unharmed. What incident last night? Curious here. Edgy MD wrote: An armed, self-styled militia of counter-protestors showed up to menace protestors in Albuquerque. Obviously, menacing gets old after a while when the police refuse to bust you but protestors refuse to be intimidated, so they took a few shots. One protestor was originally reported killed but is now reported to be in critical but stable condition. A Boy Named Seo, check in and let us know you're alright! Yepp, thanks for checking in, guys. I've been to five different events in the last couple of weeks (protest or vigils) and will likely be out again this weekend. Was not at last night's, but it was just down the road and easily could've been. Those guys have turned up at several of them. I'm disgusted these assholes are out of the shadows and these agitators can stand around trying to intimidate people at a statue protest for Oñate. Like, who defends Oñate? Spain even hated him. Be careful out there. Fascism and white supremacy are everywhere and these shitheads are emboldened.

Edgy MD Jun 16 2020 01:08 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

I had an essay published today in America, a Jesuit magazine. I'd put it in the other forum, but it's on the topic of the BLM protests, so hey!

LWFS Jun 16 2020 03:38 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

HEY! YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH POLICE IS? NOT ENOUGH FUNDING! https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/trump-signs-police-reform-executive-order-defends-police.html Edgy MD wrote: I had an essay published today in America, a Jesuit magazine. I'd put it in the other forum, but it's on the topic of the BLM protests, so hey! I enjoyed it. Sterling prose, and important, pointwise.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 16 2020 04:00 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Edgy MD wrote: I had an essay published today in America, a Jesuit magazine. I'd put it in the other forum, but it's on the topic of the BLM protests, so hey! Damn, that was moving. It's an odd feeling, being at protest and wanting it to be peaceful, so your friends and family and neighbors all get home safely, and the buildings you've seen your whole life stay in-tact, but at the same time having a thought in the back of your head that if everyone's lights are out at 9pm, the police whose brutality we're protesting against will be very happy the protest has gone quiet, and if there's nothing to report on the news, sadly, that protest probably yields little but content for instagram. I don't want shit to burn, but I see why it does.

Lefty Specialist Jun 17 2020 06:39 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Good stuff, Edgy. Well done. And in the 'They probably should have done this years ago' department, Aunt Jemima syrup will be no more. Will be re-named and Aunt Jemima, a symbol of slavery, will disappear into the dustbin of history. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/aunt-jemima-brand-will-change-name-remove-image-quaker-says-n1231260 Mrs. Butterworth had no comment.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2020 07:16 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

All the good people working on the Uncle Ben's brand down at Mars, Inc. are now all, "Oh, shit, now we gotta."

kcmets Jun 17 2020 07:57 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

I haven't had or thought about Aunt Jemima or Mrs Butterworth probably since middle school. Kinda surprised they're still a thing.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 17 2020 08:11 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Edgy MD wrote: All the good people working on the Uncle Ben's brand down at Mars, Inc. are now all, "Oh, shit, now we gotta." Well, if they thought of that, then you're not telling us anything original yourself. I myself don't have a problem with this. Besides, you haven''t linked to anything anyways so I'm pretty sure the original thought rule doesn't even apply here. Carry on.

Fman99 Jun 17 2020 08:35 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

At least Uncle Jemima lives on.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 17 2020 08:19 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Yes, the Uncle Ben people have responded. As has Mrs. Butterworth's employers. I had no idea Mrs. Butterworth was black. I thought she had transparent skin that allows us to see the syrup behind her. I guess she starts out "black", but becomes "white" as the syrup is depleted?

LWFS Jun 17 2020 10:15 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

I always pictured Mrs. Butterworth as, like, the white lady who takes credit for Aunt Jemima's inexplicably-successful corn-syrup-flavored-like-maple recipe.

metsmarathon Jun 18 2020 08:52 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

hmm... maybe it's my priviledge speaking, but i always pictured mrs butterworth as a white grandma, wearing a dress/apron thing. never really quite thought of her interior color as representative of her skin color. interestingly, when she's full of flavor (whatever you may think of that flavor), she's dark brown. only after that is replaced by a sticky emptiness does she turn white. if she is a racial cariacature, she's rather subversive about it....

Centerfield Jun 18 2020 12:06 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

What I love. Facebook assholes posting memes like “if syrup offends you, you are the problem”. They are literally posting about syrup that offends them.

kcmets Jun 18 2020 09:03 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Snap Crackle and Pop are on the ropes, too white or something. Crazy times.

MFS62 Jun 19 2020 06:23 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

At least Uncle Jemima lives on. I'm waiting for a re-boot of In Living Color. Later

Edgy MD Jun 19 2020 08:34 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

At least Uncle Jemima lives on. "Whatchoo swattin' at?"

kcmets Jun 19 2020 09:29 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Edgy MD wrote: At least Uncle Jemima lives on. "Whatchoo swattin' at?" I was gonna lol at that the other day but but wussed out. Good on you, that's some funny shit.

kcmets Jun 19 2020 11:13 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

I'm all for making today a national holiday, but can we find a better name for it?

Ceetar Jun 19 2020 11:30 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

seems like it's a little late for that.

kcmets Jun 19 2020 11:48 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

I have like a half dozen better names. I'd share, but I'm sure you'd judge them as meh, garbage or just dismiss me.

Ceetar Jun 19 2020 12:07 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

probably. but go for it. I hadn't really given it a thought. It's been that way for over a hundred years.

Theoldmole Jun 22 2020 01:44 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

I haven't given anything a thought in way more than a hundred years.

LWFS Jun 23 2020 12:46 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

I mean, it's been celebrated in this country almost as long as Thanksgiving's been a holiday, so... pretty ingrained, probably. What are some of the alternate names? I am kinda curious.

Edgy MD Jun 25 2020 02:30 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Weirdest Things I've Learned from These Strange Times: [list] [*]The 36-year-old indifferently successful sequel film Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo is being used as part code/part rallying cry by white supremacists trying to trigger a second Civil War. [*]Relatedly, bright Hawaiian print shirts have become a uniform of the white supremacist alt-right. [*]There is a huge underground nexus of white supremacy and adult My Pretty Pony super-fans, aka Bronies. [/list]

Ceetar Jun 25 2020 02:34 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

I'm not sure I believe any of those things. It's like the white supremacist 'symbol' of the 'okay' sign. Like, it might signal you're one in the right circumstances, because subsets of assholes have grown out of certain other segments of populations like bronies, but I think it's giving them more power than they have to say this unifies them in any way.

Edgy MD Jun 25 2020 07:28 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

I'm not following you and amn't sure what you are questioning.

Ceetar Jun 25 2020 10:11 PM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

just read the first sentence then.

Edgy MD Jun 26 2020 06:01 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Please don't presume to address me like that.

Ceetar Jun 26 2020 06:16 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

all of those things are existing memes or trends that have existed for a while.

Ceetar Jul 01 2020 08:13 AM Re: The Black Lives Matter Thread

Police rampaging in Seattle destroyed #CHOP. NYC pretended to cut the budget for cops but really just hid some of it in other parts. long way to go still.