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The Mask Thread

batmagadanleadoff Jun 15 2020 07:33 PM

SEE IT: Bagel shop customer deliberately coughed on by maskless Astoria woman tells her story By Brian Niemietz New York Daily News | Jun 15, 2020 | 3:52 PM Link to story -- plus video of maskless scumbag shopper coughing on other customer. https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-woman-deliberately-coughed-on-by-mask-less-bagel-shop-nut-talks-to-20200615-qok5txp745dolnfm2vndlzn4ua-story.html

nymr83 Jun 15 2020 11:36 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Saw this somewhere else - disgusting. Forget COVID for a minute, I don't know what germs a slimy fucker like that has on a regular day. Coughing on people is NEVER acceptable. Wish someone had knocked her out.

LWFS Jun 16 2020 12:32 AM Re: The Mask Thread

That's right by my kid's school! (And right by JCL, I believe.) Brooklyn Bagel next block over is better, anyway.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 16 2020 05:10 AM Re: The Mask Thread

When I first saw that story I thought it happened a half-block away from our digs, but there are actually 3 locations and this one is about 10 blocks away. I got bagels there once -- not bad-- but we have bagels only rarely

batmagadanleadoff Jun 16 2020 07:55 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Best way to reduce coronavirus transmission is by wearing a face mask, study finds By Andrea Kane and Allen Kim, CNN Excerpt: The researchers calculated that wearing face masks prevented more than 78,000 infections in Italy between April 6 and May 9, and more than 66,000 infections in New York City between April 17 and May 9. "Wearing of face masks in public corresponds to the most effective means to prevent interhuman transmission, and this inexpensive practice, in conjunction with simultaneous social distancing, quarantine, and contact tracing, represents the most likely fighting opportunity to stop the COVID-19 pandemic, prior to the development of a vaccine" they wrote. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/12/health/coronavirus-mask-wellness-trnd/index.html

batmagadanleadoff Jun 16 2020 08:01 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Masks Help Stop The Spread Of Coronavirus, Studies Say—But Wearing Them Still A Political Issue Sarah Hansen Sarah HansenForbes Staff Excerpts: Lindsay Wiley, an American University Washington College of Law professor specializing in public health law and ethics, told NPR last month that stringent mask requirements “can actually cause people who are skeptical of wearing masks to double down." And in turn, that “reinforce[s] what they perceive to be a positive association with refusing to wear a mask ... that they love freedom, that they're smart and skeptical of public health recommendations." Masks have also become a heavily politicized issue in recent weeks: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) last month voiced his support of mask wearing in public, for instance, in contrast to President Trump and other GOP leaders who have portrayed masks as a sign of weakness. [***] “When there's a new spike people will blame the (masked) protests, but it's really gonna be maskless crap like this,” https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2020/06/13/masks-help-stop-the-spread-of-coronavirus-studies-say-but-wearing-them-still-a-political-issue/#78eac175604e Once again, the scumbag know-nothing GOP is dragging this country back into the stone ages. How come they haven't thoughts and prayered the coronavirus away yet? Is it because they're waiting for more african-americans to die from covid?

kcmets Jun 16 2020 07:25 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Caption this: http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/blondemask.png>

Ceetar Jun 16 2020 09:08 PM Re: The Mask Thread

2020 equivalent of walking into a shop that says "no shirt, no shoes, no service" with no pants.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 17 2020 09:15 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Face masks protect less with each cough, study finds. Should you keep wearing it? Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article243576932.html#storylink=cpy Excerpt: [N]ew research says your blue surgical mask will reduce the amount of respiratory droplets that escape your mouth — coronavirus-infected or not — and shield you from those coming from others, according to a study published Tuesday in the journal Physics of Fluids. But the mask's ability to do so diminishes as you and surrounding people cough repeatedly, the researchers from the University of Nicosia in Cyprus — an island country in the Eastern Mediterranean — said in their study. This study suggests that the efficacy of cloth or fabric masks diminishes with use. Me personally, I don't think this is new news. I've been thinking this from the beginning. In fact, I was never comfortable with wearing a cloth or fabric mask, even from the beginning of the lockdown/stay-at-home orders because cloth masks aren't foolproof, and there are gaps between the strands of fabric which aren't visible to the human eye without magnification. And so I don't wear cloth or fabric masks when I go out. Instead, I wear two masks, layered over each other. First I wear a non-porous latex mask that covers the whole front of my head, even my mouth -- except for two tiny openings over my eyes for seeing. And over that, I put a hard plastic covering that I've DIY fashioned from a two-liter soda bottle. The "bottle" fits snugly over the latex mask, with almost no space in between the two layers of protection. Both layers of protection are non-porous and like walls, not penetrable. (I hope). I've learned a new breathing technique so that the "bottle" doesn't fog up while I'm wearing it -- I place my upper teeth over my lower lip, and my upper lip over my upper teeth -- and I breath downwards, pushing the air down to my neck. I learned this technique from an article I read on how to breath with a coronavirus mask. The writer's face shield would fog up and so he developed this breathing technique because he was a flute and recorder player as a child and this is how he breathed to play those instruments. And that's how I roll. Hoping for the best.

Lefty Specialist Jun 17 2020 11:45 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Cloth masks aren't really designed to stop the virus, just minimize it. That's what we wear. Haven't gotten very tech-y. Me and the missus make a point of social distancing and keeping our sojourns to a minimum. We've been walking a LOT lately, though, in the neighborhood and a nearby park, and very few people are masked in public. Neighbors with kids are really doing nothing at all-no masks and no social distancing, play-dates and barbecues with friends are in full swing. They're young and are apparently assuming they're invulnerable. We are going to be self-quarantining for real for 14 days later this month before we go visit Lefty Jr in DC in July. He'll be self-quarantining himself. It will be nice to give him a hug.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 17 2020 12:37 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Yeah we should talk about what kinda masks we have. We started with leftover dusk masks from Home Depot, got a few blue paper-tissue style ones but lately have been rocking a chinese brand neoprene-type thing we get a the bodga for $3 (or $1.99 at Lot Less but they sold out of masculine colors). Wifey tried some cloth ones from target. Now seeing high-end "designer" ones for $30 a pop on online ads and determined not to go there unless things get bad.

MFS62 Jun 17 2020 12:39 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Ex-SF player Aubrey Huff says he'd rather die of coronavirus than wear a mask. Earlier this week, the two-time World Series champion tweeted he would no longer wear a mask inside any businesses, saying it was "unconstitutional to enforce." On Tuesday, he doubled down on the claim, suggesting that while the "liberal left" had criticized him and "guilt-shamed me for threatening the lives of millions of innocent people" most "well-adjusted, sane people" agreed with his stance. Click on the link if you want to see how he compares himself to people who do wear one: https://www.newsweek.com/aubrey-huff-would-rather-die-coronavirus-wear-mask-1511355?fbclid=IwAR0TBvtEfLlfPZxjH3QiqWrsMjTbyaDhPBbkfXmXck85n65jva_qtLT5Idg Schmuck. Later

Ceetar Jun 17 2020 12:51 PM Re: The Mask Thread

I had about 20 N95s in the house. I gave one of the sealed bag to the kid's pediatrician and generally wear one of those when I go grocery shopping. But I've been using my wife's second-hand cloth one (she is still going into work and getting regular masks, etc.) for like, drive thru's. We just bought some custom fabric (Harry Potter I think) from a local, that I was supposed to go pick up but the battery in my car is dead. oops. The cloth is a lot more comfortable, but clearly not as good. I'll probably stick to using those when we're outside, but super markets/recycled air places get the N95 treatment. The N95s leave marks on my face, the cloth ones pull at my ears too much, but otherwise are generally comfortable, besides making me itchy.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 17 2020 12:54 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Ex-SF player Aubrey Huff says he'd rather die of coronavirus than wear a mask. Earlier this week, the two-time World Series champion tweeted he would no longer wear a mask inside any businesses, saying it was "unconstitutional to enforce." On Tuesday, he doubled down on the claim, suggesting that while the "liberal left" had criticized him and "guilt-shamed me for threatening the lives of millions of innocent people" most "well-adjusted, sane people" agreed with his stance. Click on the link if you want to see how he compares himself to people who do wear one: https://www.newsweek.com/aubrey-huff-would-rather-die-coronavirus-wear-mask-1511355?fbclid=IwAR0TBvtEfLlfPZxjH3QiqWrsMjTbyaDhPBbkfXmXck85n65jva_qtLT5Idg Schmuck. Yeah. He's real sane. He'd rather die than wear a mask that would prevent his death. And prevent the deaths of innocent bystanders that he might kill with his maskless mug. And he says he's sane? And most "sane" people agree with "his stance"? What the fuckety fuck fuck is he talking about? And that a mask requirement is unconstitutional? Where do these assholes get this crazy talk from? Well what can you expect when we live in a nation that voted Trump in as president? You should read the full interview. He's a GOP scumbag.

nymr83 Jun 17 2020 05:31 PM Re: The Mask Thread

you really need to wear FULL protection. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/KCoru09JZB6c6C0EIl1_Nq5YsFdSHhI2YuQcRY3a_tI_5uhgiemEiyVGXh9dYPi6b1L9Kt8C-xZL1_Z7-wOD1PZh60mMKBr_DdLOZjvn>

Chad ochoseis Jun 17 2020 06:16 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Even cloth masks do the job. In Springfield, MO, a hairdresser was symptomatic and showed up to work anyway. For nine days. Wearing a cloth mask that she probably whined and moaned about having to wear and how it was a God-given violation of her constitutionorial rights. Out of 84 customers she breathed on during those nine days, zero were infected. [url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/17/masks-salons-missouri/%3foutputType=amp I work for a Blue Cross subsidiary, and they mailed neoprene masks to all employees. Also have a couple of cloth masks as backup.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2020 08:02 PM Re: The Mask Thread

I leave the house like twice a week. When I do, I've been wearing the shit out of the same N95. I'm expecting some cloth ones from two different sources in the mail. Both are late.

Frayed Knot Jun 17 2020 08:09 PM Re: The Mask Thread

I wouldn't even know where to buy an 'N95'. I mean at this point your local supermarket is probably selling generic cloth and/or paper ones. But I assumed the real stuff was being directed strictly towards medical use these days and therefore not readily available on the open (not 'black') market for ordinary folk.

LWFS Jun 17 2020 10:16 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Hardware stores/suppliers. They're the same ones that, like, reputable painters/contractors use and/or give to their employees.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2020 10:36 PM Re: The Mask Thread

>>> "Aubrey Huff says that it's better to die of coronavirus than to wear a mask." >>> >>> "Who the fuck is Aubrey Huff? Some kind of star? >>> "Sort of, I guess. Was, anyhow." >>> >>> "What's she been in? Anything I've seen?" >>> "Not a she. A he. Baseball player." >>> >>> "Who does he play for? Must be a big shot." >>> "He doesn't play for anybody. He retired during the 2012 season." >>> >>> "So he's a former baseball player. An All-Star I guess." >>> "He was a good, regular, every-day player, but I don't believe he ever made an All-Star team." >>> >>> "Still, if I'm expected to care about what he says, he must have been a high-profile player. Played for the Yankees or the Sox in that big rivalry? Or maybe he played for the Dodgers?" >>> "He played for Tampa Bay." >>> >>> "You're kidding me?" >>> "No, I am not." >>> >>> "Some journalist wants me to know that Oberbay Hufflepuff, some not-particularly distinguished Tampa Bay Ray who retired in 2012, is giving me advice on life-and-death decisions?" >>> "That's about it, yes." >>> >>> "Fuck the virus. Kill me now."

metsmarathon Jun 18 2020 08:43 AM Re: The Mask Thread

i wear a few fabric masks that i fashioned out of old cotton race t-shirts, conforming to CDC guidelines. pretty sure that does a sufficient job of catching any airborne particles that i'm emitting. I should probably make more, though. it is incredibly rare that i'm in an indoor space enclosed enough to warrant a more restrictive mask.

Centerfield Jun 18 2020 08:51 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Upper west side. The majority of people are wearing masks, even outside. Almost everyone wears a mask in grocery stores and drug stores. I haven't really been in other establishments so I wouldn't know. We did bandannas at first, then my wife learned to see homemade masks. Eventually we were able to order the disposable ones. Last week we got fancy designer masks shipped to us from family in Korea. They're pretty cool looking. The black one kinda makes you feel like snake eyes from GI joe.

metsmarathon Jun 18 2020 08:55 AM Re: The Mask Thread

=Centerfield post_id=38907 time=1592491907 user_id=65] The black one kinda makes you feel like snake eyes from GI joe.

great. now i want a cobra commander-themed mask for when i hafta go back in the office.



it fits better with our (secret) mission statement. (damnit, there i go again!)

Lefty Specialist Jun 18 2020 09:15 AM Re: The Mask Thread

The weirdest thing is that I went into a bank last week wearing a mask. In February they would have been pressing the silent alarm and I would have been wrestled to the ground by the local cops (but not really harmed, because I'm a middle-aged white guy). Today, nothing. Everybody looks like a bank robber these days.

kcmets Jun 18 2020 09:25 AM Re: The Mask Thread

We started out with the hardware store masks for sanding/painting that I had a few of in the garage. Kinda lucky, because masks were scarce back then. Seems so long ago. Graduated a number of weeks ago to some two-ply masks that are much more comfortable and my glasses don't fog up as easily. "Hecho en China" - great price, great find. I also have a synthetic American Flag mask some may have seen on fb a few weeks ago. I only wear that in my safe zones. Would never wear it to shop or hike for fear of being beat up or set on fire.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 18 2020 09:38 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Ive been wearing the neoprene ones biking, but often pulling down to the chin upwind and on hills, up again approaching stops. Works but they smell like a hockey glove next day into a hand wash, repeat

Benjamin Grimm Jun 18 2020 10:57 AM Re: The Mask Thread

I don't wear a mask when I'm walking the dog or driving in the car. Just when I'm about to enter a building that has other people in it. I haven't been doing much of this either, so I'm usually not wearing a mask.

kcmets Jun 18 2020 12:01 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Yeah, I don't why I said 'hike' before. I don't wear one walking the dog or doing anything outside. I do always wear one in stores and such .

batmagadanleadoff Jun 18 2020 02:07 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Everyone's Out to Get the President*, Apparently He believes people in this country are wearing masks just to embarrass him. Excerpt: In case you missed it, the Wall Street Journal bagged an exclusive with El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago, and it was one of those interviews after which you pray to the god of journalism that your tape recorder didn't run out of power without your having noticed it. (I hear.) Simply put, the president*'s filbert has gone supremely milky. [***] Also, he is an extremely put-upon person. First, China releases the pandemic just to get back at him for his tariffs, and now people in this country are wearing masks just to embarrass him. [***] [The president] allowed for the possibility that some Americans wore facial coverings not as a preventative measure but as a way to signal disapproval of him. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32908010/trump-juneteenth-masks-interview/

Benjamin Grimm Jun 18 2020 02:09 PM Re: The Mask Thread

I'm surprised to learn that he's capable of being embarrassed.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 18 2020 02:17 PM Re: The Mask Thread

It's just more politicization of the mask-wearing issue. These comments will encourage his voters to dig in even further and to wear masks even less so than they currently are.

Frayed Knot Jun 18 2020 02:27 PM Re: The Mask Thread

I've taken to wearing a goalie mask [FIMG=300]https://cdn.itaksport.com/16469-large_default/bauer-nme-street-star-wars-boba-fett-hockey-goalie-mask-youth.jpg[/FIMG] It does shit to protect against CoronaVirus but it looks cool as hell and if I ever get into a supermarket brawl, like over toilet paper or something, I'm going to have a serious competitive advantage during the throw-down.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 19 2020 10:01 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Coronavirus Live Updates: Tensions Grow Over Masks in the U.S. As people resume going out in public in the middle of a pandemic, to wear or not to wear a face mask has become a personal statement and sometimes a political one. Excerpt: Tensions over face masks are growing in the United States, even as several states are seeing surges in coronavirus cases. Mask orders have become a point of point of political contention, with some regarding them as an essential safety measure and others considering them an unacceptable infringement of personal liberty. Gov. Gavin Newsom of California on Thursday ordered people to wear face masks in most indoor — and some outdoor — public settings. [***] “Simply put, we are seeing too many people with faces uncovered, putting at risk the real progress we have made in fighting the disease,” Mr. Newsom said. [***] Separately, the chief executive of AMC Entertainment Holdings, Adam Aron, prompted a backlash on social media by saying that moviegoers would not be required to wear masks at the company's theaters when they reopen next month. “We did not want to be drawn into a political controversy,” Mr. Aron said in an interview published on Thursday by Variety magazine. “We thought it might be counterproductive if we forced mask wearing on those people who believe strongly that it is not necessary.” His comments drew swift criticism. “How is public health ‘political?'” one person wrote on Twitter. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/19/world/coronavirus-live-updates.html

kcmets Jun 19 2020 10:17 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Yesterday or the day before I said 10 states are spiking. Up to 23 today according to several scrolls on TV news channels.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2020 11:03 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Look at this disgrace. https://metsrostercentral.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/screen-shot-2020-06-19-at-1.00.11-pm.png>

Ceetar Jun 19 2020 11:31 AM Re: The Mask Thread

places like the NY Times (or AMC) should stop with the "hey, look, this is political now and here's both sides" It undermines the facts of mask wearing.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 19 2020 12:02 PM Re: The Mask Thread

AMC Theatres Reverses Policy—Will Enforce Masks on Moviegoers CEO Adam Aron received a massive backlash after saying mask-wearing was "political" and would not be required. Now he says they will. Excerpt: That was fast. Less than a day after saying AMC Theatres would reopen to guests and not mandate masks, the CEO of the company has changed course. "This announcement prompted an intense and immediate outcry from our customers, and it is clear from this response that we did not go far enough on the usage of masks," Adam Aron said in a new statement released Friday. [***] "With the full support of our scientific advisors, we are reversing course and are changing our guest mask policy. As we reopen theatres, we now will require that all AMC guests nationwide wear masks as they enter and enjoy movies at our theatres." https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/06/amc-theatres-coronavirus-masks-political

Benjamin Grimm Jun 19 2020 02:36 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Yeah, that's fine, but I'm sure a lot of the idiots will take off the masks once they've been admitted and the lights go down.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 19 2020 06:05 PM Re: The Mask Thread

In Nebraska, Republican Gov. Pete Ricketts has threatened to withhold funds from any county that requires people to wear a mask in public buildings. Read that again: The Republican governor is forbidding counties to require residents to do something that will, at very minimal personal inconvenience, reduce the spread of covid-19 to their fellow Nebraskans. https://www.omaha.com/news/state_and_regional/ricketts-tells-local-governments-they-wont-get-federal-covid-19-money-if-they-require-masks/article_d15459b9-26df-527e-9899-9f579a3d8597.html

batmagadanleadoff Jun 20 2020 08:17 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Arizonans see big jump in coronavirus cases, but don't see reason to wear masks Excerpts: Walking along the streets this week in Tempe, Arizona, it was rare to see anyone wearing a mask. And this doozy. Anybody here that can make sense out of what Mr. Gbekia is talking about is much cleverer than I am: Charles Gbekia wasn't wearing a face covering as he headed into a busy bar. "It's just going to kind of get worse until we do something about it," he told CNN. When asked why he wasn't wearing a mask, he replied, "I think masks are good, but they act as a placebo. I have family personally lost to coronavirus, so like, I should be wearing a mask, but not when I'm out with my friends." I have no idea what the fuck Mr. Gbekia is trying to convey with his absurd nested contradictions, but I guarantee that I know who he's gonna vote for in the next presidential election. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/19/health/arizona-coronavirus-cases/index.html

batmagadanleadoff Jun 21 2020 12:57 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Upper west side. The majority of people are wearing masks, even outside. Almost everyone wears a mask in grocery stores and drug stores. I haven't really been in other establishments so I wouldn't know. \ The Upper West Side has about the lowest covid-19 per capita death rate/count among NYC (all five boroughs) zip codes. The only NYC zip codes with lower death rates aren't really neighborhoods - it's the Financial District. The Hudson Yards/Midtown zip code has a slightly lower death rate than the Upper West Side, but a much, much higher case rate. Check out the interactive map, linked to below, to see covid case and death rates for all NYC zip codes. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/nyregion/new-york-city-coronavirus-cases.html

Edgy MD Jun 24 2020 03:53 PM Re: The Mask Thread

my wife got tired of the Mr. Met model she ordered me sitting on backorder, so she marveled me instead.

kcmets Jun 24 2020 04:53 PM Re: The Mask Thread

The studio version of this song is awesome but I found this live gold version. Gold, I tell ya... [YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruTcjJKmgqE[/YOUTUBE] I'm just a comic book boy There's nothing scary to enjoy Freak admission stroll inside I was born on a roller coaster ride

ashie62 Jun 24 2020 07:34 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Edgy MD wrote: my wife got tired of the Mr. Met model she ordered me sitting on backorder, so she marveled me instead. This made my eyes pop. Classic photo

LWFS Jun 24 2020 11:28 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Edgy MD wrote: my wife got tired of the Mr. Met model she ordered me sitting on backorder, so she marveled me instead. No joke: I've been looking for just the right Dr. Doom model.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 28 2020 10:19 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Real Men Wear Masks! This statement was long overdue: Pelosi says it's ‘long overdue' for mask-wearing to be mandatory nationwide House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Sunday that the wearing of face masks should be mandatory nationwide during the coronavirus pandemic, as a number of states are reporting a record surge in new cases. During an interview on ABC News's “This Week,” host George Stephanopoulos asked Pelosi, “Is it time to mandate the wearing of masks across the country?” Pelosi replied, “Oh, definitely long overdue for that." “And my understanding [is] that the Centers for Disease Control has recommended the use of masks but not … required it, because they don't want to offend the president,” she added. “And the president should be an example. You know, real men wear masks.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/28/coronavirus-live-updates-us/#link-2CDUWDYYTFCBBKDSETVRKZ7SVA

kcmets Jun 28 2020 08:32 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Social media post by an old 'friend.' People getting nuttier by the day... http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/maskpic.jpg>

Ceetar Jun 29 2020 07:16 AM Re: The Mask Thread

when i see posts like that I generally report them and when I see them as shared from a meme page/company i go to that page and 'suggest edits' and (on FAcebook) and categorize it as 'satire/parody' and 'just for fun'

Edgy MD Jun 29 2020 07:23 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Social media post by an old 'friend.' People getting nuttier by the day... http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/maskpic.jpg> It's true! M*A*S*H* didn't last three times as long as the actual Korean War by accident! #MindControlMasks

kcmets Jun 29 2020 08:01 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Not getting the Mash/Korean War thing. Explicame, por favor.

MFS62 Jun 29 2020 08:16 AM Re: The Mask Thread

=kcmets post_id=39486 time=1593439315 user_id=53] Not getting the Mash/Korean War thing. Explicame, por favor.

Thanks for asking, Kase. That threw me ,too. You beat me to it.

Later

Edgy MD Jun 29 2020 10:11 AM Re: The Mask Thread

My poorly delivered point is that surgical masks have been around for a long time — on TV, in movies, and in real life — doing yeoman's work in the field of containing dangerous micro-organisms, and to claim in 2020 that they are some sort of hoax or tool of mind control is beyond rich. Apparently, such folks have forgotten to let us know about this for the last 100 years.

kcmets Jun 29 2020 11:32 AM Re: The Mask Thread

That deliver point flew over my head, rolled on to the warning track and got wedged under the wall for a dead ball double but thanks for splainin' haha

MFS62 Jun 29 2020 11:55 AM Re: The Mask Thread

=kcmets post_id=39521 time=1593451940 user_id=53] That deliver point flew over my head, rolled on to the warning track and got wedged under the wall for a dead ball double but thanks for splainin' haha

Nice recovery. You threw the batter out trying to stretch it to a triple.

Later

whippoorwill Jul 02 2020 08:54 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Expect me to visit this thread often. Governor wolf put out a new law that PAers have to wear them and the shit hit the fan in the two local newspapers' Facebook pages. I can't believe some peoples' sense of entitlement over others' safety My rants including several expletives toward those selfish pigs seem to be deleted but I know here I can rant away

metsmarathon Jul 02 2020 09:39 AM Re: The Mask Thread

i struggle to come up with a decent analogue to wearing a mask that makes sense. the best i can really come up with is that not wearing a mask is basically the same as littering. it's something that affects "other people" more than the individual. it incurs, generally, a minor inconvenience upon the individual, and sometimes requires them to have forethought in their actions, and maybe even to purchase something of nominal cost (garbage bags). and the impact of a single individual choosing not to litter doesn't really have a ton of impact on everything, but if everyone chooses not to litter, then the benefits increase tremendously, and the individuals themselves get to reap the rewards too. and, oh by the way, not littering doesn't infringe on anybody's damned freedoms. so don't litter. wear a fucking mask. (why is it so damned complicated for people) glad to see you back cooby!

MFS62 Jul 02 2020 09:48 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Welcome back, Cooby. 'Thon, don't try to simplify it by over complicating it. There is no analogy a person who doesn't wear a mask would either understand or care about. "Wear a fucking mask" is all that is necessary, and it should be said loudly to everyone not wearing one. If people say it loudly enough and often enough, the moron might begin to do it. Later

Ceetar Jul 02 2020 09:51 AM Re: The Mask Thread

yeah, it's literally basic hygiene. Like covering your mouth when you cough, washing your hands, peeing in the toilet instead of just at your desk or wherever you are when you have to go.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 02 2020 11:13 AM Re: The Mask Thread

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batmagadanleadoff Jul 02 2020 11:40 AM Re: The Mask Thread

i struggle to come up with a decent analogue to wearing a mask that makes sense. the best i can really come up with is that not wearing a mask is basically the same as littering. Refusing to Wear a Mask Is Like Driving Drunk https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/opinion/coronavirus-face-masks.html Also, during one of his covid daily briefings, Gov. Cuomo likened going maskless to refusing to wear a condom.

Ceetar Jul 02 2020 11:53 AM Re: The Mask Thread

That seems an apt analogy, but that article both doesn't mention it, AND normalizes trump. "oh, he may be changing his mind!" "here's what he should do". It talks a good game, but if it's going to profile trump as the leader of the country and someone who's still "deciding" whether he should wear a mask, it mentions "men feeling weak" and talks about how trump might feel. It merely says we 'could' all start wearing masks. This isn't strong enough language. it's both sides nonsense. it's tepid and unhelpful. Just frame it like the headline. "We could stop driving drunk." "Some men feel like not driving themselves home from a bender at the bar makes them feel weak" "The president has been shown driving home drunk but recently said once that maybe he'd call a taxi if he'd drank tequila"

batmagadanleadoff Jul 02 2020 11:57 AM Re: The Mask Thread

That seems an apt analogy, but that article both doesn't mention it, AND normalizes trump. "oh, he may be changing his mind!" "here's what he should do". It talks a good game, but if it's going to profile trump as the leader of the country and someone who's still "deciding" whether he should wear a mask, it mentions "men feeling weak" and talks about how trump might feel. It merely says we 'could' all start wearing masks. This isn't strong enough language. it's both sides nonsense. it's tepid and unhelpful. Just frame it like the headline. "We could stop driving drunk." "Some men feel like not driving themselves home from a bender at the bar makes them feel weak" "The president has been shown driving home drunk but recently said once that maybe he'd call a taxi if he'd drank tequila" It's much simpler. Or at least, it should be. Trump should simply tell everybody to wear a mask. End of story. No qualifiers or ifs or ands or buts. That's it. Just wear a mask. Like Nancy Reagan's "Just say no (to drugs)".

Ceetar Jul 02 2020 12:22 PM Re: The Mask Thread

right, but again that normalizes him. This is not normal. he is not the leader. Putting words in his mouth at this point is pointless. _This_ time he'll step up and do his job? sure. How far do we want to go back? We've eclipsed 500k deaths to this thing in at least part thanks to his direct action. the best thing he could do is die, a slow, 6 month slog where he's incapacitated but half-pence isn't emboldened to do anything as a stand-in.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 03 2020 12:38 PM Re: The Mask Thread

That seems an apt analogy, but that article both doesn't mention it, AND normalizes trump. "oh, he may be changing his mind!" "here's what he should do". It talks a good game, but if it's going to profile trump as the leader of the country and someone who's still "deciding" whether he should wear a mask, it mentions "men feeling weak" and talks about how trump might feel. It merely says we 'could' all start wearing masks. This isn't strong enough language. it's both sides nonsense. it's tepid and unhelpful. Just frame it like the headline. "We could stop driving drunk." "Some men feel like not driving themselves home from a bender at the bar makes them feel weak" "The president has been shown driving home drunk but recently said once that maybe he'd call a taxi if he'd drank tequila" It's much simpler. Or at least, it should be. Trump should simply tell everybody to wear a mask. End of story. No qualifiers or ifs or ands or buts. That's it. Just wear a mask. Like Nancy Reagan's "Just say no (to drugs)". Seriously, Just Wear Your Mask This is not complicated, folks. [FIMG=555]https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/07/02/opinion/02wegman/02wegman-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp[/FIMG] Wear a mask. Seriously, just wear one. Almost any mask will do, really. N95, surgical, spandex, homespun cotton. For people who aren't front-line health care workers, what matters is whatever you can get your hands on [one] that fits over your nose and mouth. As the nation plunges for a second time into the depths of this brutal pandemic, officials worry we'll soon have as many as 100,000 new cases every day. Summer won't save us. Neither will bluster or bleach. It's easy to want to give up, but it would be wrong. Wearing a mask is not only simple and cheap, it's also proved to be effective in slowing the virus's spread. It will protect the health and even save the lives of your loved ones, your neighbors and people you don't know. This isn't hard. If the lower half of your face is not covered when you go out in public, stop searching for excuses and go mask up. Think about it as good hygiene and common courtesy. Would you sneeze into your hand and then not wipe it off before shaking the hand of person standing next to you? Of course not. So why wouldn't you wear a mask? Or think about it as the best path to economic recovery. If all Americans were required to wear masks in public, we could reduce the number of daily cases to a level that would otherwise require lockdowns that would slash nearly 5 percent, or $1 trillion, from the nation's gross domestic product, according to an analysis released this week by Goldman Sachs. Or, if you like, think about it as a gesture of patriotism as we mark a stark and somber Independence Day. But please, just don't think about it as so many Republicans do. “Mask-wearing has become a totem, a secular religious symbol,” Alex Castellanos, a longtime Republican strategist, told The Washington Post. “Christians wear crosses, Muslims wear a hijab, and members of the Church of Secular Science bow to the Gods of Data by wearing a mask as their symbol, demonstrating that they are the elite; smarter, more rational, and morally superior to everyone else.” This is a bizarre way to talk about people who are guided by facts, science and reason. It's not about making a political point or asserting moral superiority; it's about saving lives and protecting one another — which should be a basic element of citizenship in any democracy. And yet, like so many seemingly nonpolitical topics, donning a mask has become partisanized to the point that people are brawling in supermarkets over their right to infect others. “It's a free country; I can do what I want” sounds charming when it comes from a child. It can be far worse when it is shouted from the mouth of a possibly infected adult. It's a strange sort of freedom that includes exposing other people to a potentially deadly virus. What's to resist about showing respect to your fellow Americans? Why turn a straightforward public health issue into a political one? The virus doesn't care whether you're a Republican or a Democrat. It ravaged blue states in the spring, and now it's plowing through red ones. All it cares about are finding open mouths and nostrils. It's crazy that we are having this debate after all. Dozens of countries have already mandated mask-wearing in public. It's not a coincidence that the United States remains the world's coronavirus hot spot. Only recently — as the virus descends on the places where their political supporters live — have some top Republicans come to their senses. On Thursday, Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas, whose state is currently being overwhelmed with new cases, issued a statewide mask mandate. (Indoor churchgoers are exempted, but outdoor protesters aren't.) There have been encouraging words from the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, Vice President Mike Pence, even Sean Hannity. Earlier this week, Steve Doocy, a host of “Fox & Friends,” which has as direct a line to President Trump's brain as any top White House adviser, pleaded with the president to “set an example” and wear a mask. MAGA should now stand for “Masks Are Great Again,” he said. We're not holding our breath. Even with records being set daily, the White House refuses to issue a nationwide face mask mandate. Some resisters are still sore about the contradictory or incorrect messages about masks that came from health officials in early days of the pandemic. In late February, Surgeon General Jerome M. Adams tweeted: “Seriously people — STOP BUYING MASKS! They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus.” Anthony Fauci said a version of this a few days later. “There's no reason to be walking around with a mask,” he told CBS. “When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is.” These were missteps, without question. But remember the context in which those pleas were made. In early March, hospitals across the country were preparing for a massive surge of patients, and masks were in perilously short supply. Considering the significant risks to front-line health care workers, and the lack of sufficient protective gear, it was understandable — even if misguided in retrospect — to want to ensure that masks were available to those who needed them most. (By the way, why, in the richest country on the planet, was there such a glaring shortage of masks? It's not as though the mask makers didn't see what was coming. One executive at a Texas medical supply company warned the Trump administration back in January that he was getting deluged with orders from abroad. He offered to produce as many as 1.7 million N95 masks per week for the federal government. The administration declined.) Advertisement Continue reading the main story There's also the uncertainty inherent to the scientific process. In the early stages of the pandemic, for instance, it wasn't clear that infected people who had no symptoms could transmit the virus, so there didn't appear to be a need for the general public to wear masks. Now, of course, it's clear that asymptomatic transmission most likely plays a big role in the virus's spread. This doesn't mean we should ignore the scientists, or accuse them, as Fox News's Laura Ingraham did, of being part of “the medical deep state.” Scientists generate hypotheses based on what they know at the time; some turn out to be incorrect, so scientists adjust and come up with better hypotheses. That is how science works, and most of the time it happens out of the public view. But now, with the whole world watching and on edge, every error is magnified. In any case, it's long past time to stop blaming health officials' messaging. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated its guidance to recommend the wearing of masks on April 3; three months later, countless Americans are still refusing. Masks are not a cure-all for the coronavirus pandemic. Countries that have gotten the virus under control have done so through a robust public health response, including aggressive testing and contact tracing. We also need to properly fund research into vaccines and other treatments. Instead, the Trump administration has wound down its coronavirus task force, perhaps because Mr. Trump still seems to believe that, as he put it as recently as Wednesday, the virus is “going to sort of just disappear, I hope.” The buck stops anywhere but here. The White House continues to deny that it has any responsibility to lead in this effort. On Thursday, Kellyanne Conway, one of Mr. Trump's top aides, said: “People are not wearing masks. And I don't think they're not wearing masks because the president of the United States is not wearing a mask. They're not wearing a mask because nobody's saying put the mask on.” And all this time we thought the presidency was a bully pulpit. Alas, the leader of the free world still refuses to cover his face in public, although he did claim he was “all for masks” earlier this week. The way to deal with an abject failure of leadership like this is at the ballot box in November. But the way to deal with the pandemic's daily assault on America today is to do the things regular people can do with little to no effort: Wash hands regularly, practice social distancing and wear a mask. On this July 4 weekend, consider it the least you can do for your country. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/02/opinion/coronavirus-masks.html Great and all, but I doubt that the Texas rednecks and retard Mississippians that are going maskless are reading the New York Times.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 03 2020 03:08 PM Re: The Mask Thread

How to Guilt People Into Wearing a Face Mask By Malaka Gharib July 2, 2020 [FIMG=555]https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ef678e4e4c2fbaa9b04d6b8/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/2_Gharib_mask.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=555]https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ef678e9c5c82191c20128a1/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/3_Gharib_mask.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=555]https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ef678eb25aad12acaa82ff5/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/4_Gharib_mask.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=555]https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ef678edd58c42b487da8af3/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/5_Gharib_mask.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=555]https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ef678f46cf18b2e1e0619cc/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/6_Gharib_mask.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=555]https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ef678fcc5c82191c20128a3/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/7_Gharib_mask.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=555]https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ef6791025aad12acaa82ff7/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/8_Gharib_mask.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=555]https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ef6791535257179ff2c2e37/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/9_Gharib_mask.jpg[/FIMG] https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/how-to-guilt-people-into-wearing-a-face-mask#intcid=recommendations_the-new-yorker-homepage_f4936b51-2036-48aa-b69d-dc1e042c0594_popular4-1

whippoorwill Jul 03 2020 04:47 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Dang. Lol

batmagadanleadoff Jul 03 2020 05:08 PM Re: The Mask Thread

I am a cross between the Over-Achiever and the Direct Hit.

MFS62 Jul 04 2020 06:26 AM Re: The Mask Thread

I'm Direct Hit (shouldn't be a surprise), but I don't say "dang". Later

batmagadanleadoff Jul 05 2020 09:49 PM Re: The Mask Thread

In several similar incidents throughout the country, violent restaurant customers resisting mask-wearing policies cause restaurants to end dine-in service. https://www.businessinsider.com/anti-mask-customers-force-some-restaurants-re-close-dining-rooms-2020-7 I'm all for mask-wearing laws and further, wish that they were actually enforced by the authorities. But what do these restaurants expect? A person can't eat while wearing a mask. In these times, dining-in service is a ridiculous and dangerous policy, threatening the public health.

Frayed Knot Jul 06 2020 03:23 PM Re: The Mask Thread

So I stopped into a small corner (non-chain) convenience store yesterday in order to grab a Gatorade around the midpoint of a bike ride and there's a sign on the door said that not only were masks NOT required but they were discouraged. The reasoning given was that the store felt it was safer for them to be able to see everyone's face than it was guard against the chance of a virus transmission. This small town place didn't strike me as one being in a high crime area but I suppose convenience store owners/clerks get used to the idea that, particularly during some times of the day, everyone who walks through the door is a potential menace (although this was about 9AM on a Sunday) so this at least gives them a shot at spotting past troublemakers or just those who look like they might be.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 06 2020 03:34 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Maybe the best way to handle this is to ask only the people who are planning to rob the store to go maskless.

MFS62 Jul 06 2020 03:35 PM Re: The Mask Thread

We stopped going to a restaurant we liked several years ago because we always seemed to get the waiter who spit while he talked while standing over you. We never asked for a different waiter because he was otherwise nice and efficient and we didn't want the guy to get into trouble. The restaurant is now out of business, but it was so good that if the server had to wear a mask, we might have gone back. Later

Benjamin Grimm Jul 06 2020 03:41 PM Re: The Mask Thread

He's probably now robbing convenience stores on FK's bike route.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 08 2020 09:58 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Florida man fired from insurance firm after Costco mask outburst https://nypost.com/2020/07/08/florida-man-fired-from-insurance-firm-after-costco-mask-outburst/ Click on the link to watch video of anti-mask idiot go all-out berserko when asked to put on a mask.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 08 2020 10:20 AM Re: The Mask Thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKAEEDMT9YM How did all of these anti-mask retards suddenly become Constitutional Law scholars?

RealityChuck Jul 08 2020 12:14 PM Re: The Mask Thread

How did all of these anti-mask retards suddenly become Constitutional Law scholars? They aren't: The Supreme Court has ruled several times that the government has the right to enforce rules to protect the public health. And, in the Constitution, "promote the public welfare" comes before "secure the blessings of liberty."

whippoorwill Jul 08 2020 12:43 PM Re: The Mask Thread

While visiting our county democratic headquarters this morning I must have dropped my mask out by the car Luckily I bought a DEMOCRATIC mask while I was there!

metsmarathon Jul 08 2020 01:40 PM Re: The Mask Thread

so, i guess i should ask it here... any of youse guys have a spot where you buy your reusable fabric masks from, or did y'all make your owns? i've got a few that i fashioned from old t-shirts, using the CDC's no-sew easy-peasy method, and i'm looking for something a bit more... uh... professional-looking. any reommendations?

whippoorwill Jul 08 2020 01:50 PM Re: The Mask Thread

I found an easy link on YouTube if you have a machine. I suppose you could do it by hand too. The ones I made myself are getting stretched out but it's still hard to get elastic I have a whole closet full of fabric scraps from many years of seeing

whippoorwill Jul 08 2020 01:51 PM Re: The Mask Thread

=whippoorwill post_id=40109 time=1594237833 user_id=79] I found an easy link on YouTube if you have a machine. I suppose you could do it by hand too. The ones I made myself are getting stretched out but it's still hard to get elastic I have a whole closet full of fabric scraps from many years of sewing

whippoorwill Jul 08 2020 01:51 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Meant that to be an edit not a quote

batmagadanleadoff Jul 08 2020 03:49 PM Re: The Mask Thread

How did all of these anti-mask retards suddenly become Constitutional Law scholars? They aren't: The Supreme Court has ruled several times that the government has the right to enforce rules to protect the public health. And, in the Constitution, "promote the public welfare" comes before "secure the blessings of liberty." I was being sarcastic.

MFS62 Jul 09 2020 07:32 PM Re: The Mask Thread

My wife and I were walking into Costco today. We were both wearing masks. A young (I'd say 25-30) guy came walking out, not wearing one, and exhaling loudly in the direction of people wearing masks, saying, "I love the fresh air!". What an asshole. Later

whippoorwill Jul 09 2020 08:00 PM Re: The Mask Thread

I hope his shorts bunch up

batmagadanleadoff Jul 14 2020 11:09 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Ya know, the irony here is that if Trump didn't politicize mask-wearing and instead, encouraged the public to wear masks, like every sentient country did, the pandemic might've been under control, the economy might've opened already like in most of the rest of the advanced world and the GOP and Trump might be leading in the polls the way an incumbent president ordinarily should be leading.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2020 11:31 AM Re: The Mask Thread

He's just so remarkably stupid.

Lefty Specialist Jul 14 2020 11:36 AM Re: The Mask Thread

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Edgy MD Jul 14 2020 12:07 PM Re: The Mask Thread

I have no friends named Cay Beaver.

Ceetar Jul 14 2020 12:21 PM Re: The Mask Thread

our government should be protecting the stupid people too.

kcmets Jul 14 2020 03:34 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Edgy MD wrote: I have no friends named Cay Beaver. Wonder what Cay Beaver's Flintstones name is.

whippoorwill Jul 14 2020 06:44 PM Re: The Mask Thread

I don't think Cay Beaver could be more Flintstony And I don't think Richard Rose could have been more Neanderthal

whippoorwill Jul 14 2020 06:45 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Btw I've been to Put In Bay not so long ago and it was kinda quiet Obviously it's taken a turn for the extreme worse

whippoorwill Jul 14 2020 06:46 PM Re: The Mask Thread cry hi

Sorry not in mourning

batmagadanleadoff Jul 14 2020 07:03 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Live updates: Coronavirus could be ‘under control' in weeks if everyone wore masks, CDC director says Free coronavirus coverage from the Washington Post The United States could get the spread of the novel coronavirus “under control” within a matter of weeks if everyone wore face coverings, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield said Tuesday. He said masks — which can act as a barrier for respiratory droplets that can be propelled into the air an infected person coughs, shouts or sneezes — are among the most effective measures to prevent the spread of the virus. Redfield said he was “saddened” that the wearing of masks has become politicized. “I think if we could get everybody to wear a mask right now, I think in four, six, eight weeks we could bring this epidemic under control,” Redfield said. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/14/coronavirus-live-updates-us/

batmagadanleadoff Jul 17 2020 11:31 AM Re: The Mask Thread Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 17 2020 03:56 PM

A Detailed Map of Who Is Wearing Masks in the U.S. The patterns from hundreds of thousands of survey respondents reflect partisanship, peer pressure and the footprint of the virus itself. Use this link to access a terrific interactive map of the USA reflecting mask-use. You can blow up or magnify the map by simply repeatedly double-clicking on it. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/17/upshot/coronavirus-face-mask-map.html Excerpt: In some American neighborhoods, it's hard to spot even one person outside without a face covering. In others, your odds of seeing many maskless people are quite high. Public health officials believe that face coverings can substantially slow transmission of the coronavirus, which is spreading rapidly in many states. But face coverings work best if they are adopted widely, and that is not the case everywhere. The accompanying map shows the odds of whether, if you encountered five people in a given area, all of them would be wearing masks.

whippoorwill Jul 17 2020 02:22 PM Re: The Mask Thread

So far, I have lost two masks

batmagadanleadoff Jul 21 2020 10:36 AM Re: The Mask Thread

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batmagadanleadoff Jul 26 2020 10:24 AM Re: The Mask Thread Edited 8 time(s), most recently on Jul 27 2020 12:55 AM

Yesterday , I went to a FedEx store. Had to mail a package, yada, yada, yada. The FedEx store has a sign on its door requiring customers to wear masks and also, stating that no more than two customers at a time are permitted inside. These are the store's covid rules (and I approve). So I go in, wearing my now customary double layer of non-porous (I hope) masks. I'm the second customer in. And while the two of us customers are in there, waiting, a third customer walks in -- maskless. So I ask the double rule violator, in a non-confrontational, kinda friendly, inquisitive tone: "No mask?" My friendly tone must have been apparent and rubbed off on the rule-breaker because she responds in a friendly tone, herself: "Oh, it's OK. I work next door. The owners here know me." So I then say, again in a friendly tone, but now definitely with an added tinge of sarcasm: "Oh, I see. Because you work next door, it's impossible for you to infect anybody". She turned away and ignored me the rest of the way, me keeping a wary eye on her to make sure she was as far away from me as possible.

kcmets Jul 26 2020 10:37 AM Re: The Mask Thread

It pisses me off that it's not enforced. We're old enough to remember- No Shoes No Shirt No Service - and that was only for sanitary hygiene health code rules or something but I recall clerks and owners being pretty adamant about it? Now, as a literal life and death event the mask signage on public doors are ignored by many and no one says a peep. Drives me nuts.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 29 2020 07:54 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Wearing masks might help you avoid major illness even if you get coronavirus, experts say Excerpt: Q: What's the point of wearing a cloth face covering if it doesn't filter out everything? A: Cloth face masks still provide a major protective benefit: They filter out a majority of viral particles. As it turns out, that's pretty important. Breathing in a small amount of virus may lead to no disease or a more mild infection. But inhaling a huge volume of virus particles can result in serious disease or death. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/wearing-masks-might-help-you-avoid-major-illness-even-if-you-get-coronavirus-experts-say/2020/07/24/b97c2e30-cc62-11ea-b0e3-d55bda07d66a_story.html

batmagadanleadoff Aug 01 2020 02:04 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Wear Your Mask. Please. No, Not on Your Chin. More than 30 states have enacted mask requirements to guard against the coronavirus. But local authorities have had a difficult time enforcing them. Excerpt: “Ninety percent of the people are wearing their masks, just not over their nose and mouths,” said Jim Young, Key West's director of code enforcement. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/us/coronavirus-masks-enforcement-key-west.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage§ion=US%20News

batmagadanleadoff Aug 03 2020 10:36 AM Re: The Mask Thread

‘Not handling the pandemic well': Man fires at officers with AK-47 after refusing to wear a mask, police say Excerpt: When a cigar shop clerk told Adam Zaborowski on Friday he had to wear a mask in the shop, the 35-year-old angrily refused. Instead, he grabbed two stogies, stormed outside — and then pulled a handgun and shot at the clerk, Bethlehem Township, Pa., police said. The next day, cornered near his home, Zaborowski allegedly fired at police with an AK-47, sparking a wild shootout with at least seven officers that ended with him shot multiple times and under arrest. The case is the latest violent incident tied to arguments over mandatory mask orders. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/03/mask-mandatory-pennsylvania-shooting-police/ _________ Are these stories of mask-resistance starting to feel repetitive? It's starting to feel a little like same shit, different day, no?

Fman99 Aug 03 2020 10:46 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Ah, Pennsyltucky.

Lefty Specialist Aug 03 2020 02:35 PM Re: The Mask Thread

‘Not handling the pandemic well': Man fires at officers with AK-47 after refusing to wear a mask, police say Well, if he wasn't handling the pandemic well, I'm guessing 20 years in prison will be no picnic. If these stories seem repetitive, it's because there are a lot of well-armed hair-trigger idiots in America.

kcmets Aug 03 2020 02:44 PM Re: The Mask Thread

A masked man with gloves approached my dog and I in the woods before. Thankfully, there was an intersection and we avoided him and close.contact. Creepy looking.

whippoorwill Aug 03 2020 02:47 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Omg before I even read it I knew it had to be in PA

batmagadanleadoff Aug 10 2020 08:29 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Universal wearing of masks essential to combat coronavirus: Fauci The Money Shot: Only with “universal wearing of masks” will coronavirus infections start diminishing, the nation's foremost epidemiological expert said Monday. https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-masks-universal-social-distancing-defeat-pandemic-fauci-20200811-wiy4xxkypvdlrnswtk53nipuki-story.html

whippoorwill Aug 11 2020 07:49 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Unfortunately too many Pennsylvanians still think it's all a myth Trumpers all

Benjamin Grimm Aug 11 2020 08:15 AM Re: The Mask Thread

And there are other, redder, states where it's a lot worse. I just finished reading a book about the 1918 influenza pandemic and there are a number of similarities to what's going on now, but one thing that wasn't mentioned in the book at all was any hint that people thought it was a hoax.

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 11 2020 11:36 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Check out this pretend tough guy (and turn down the volume if you're near adults or don;t like farts) https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1292984224518209537

batmagadanleadoff Aug 11 2020 02:10 PM Re: The Mask Thread

If you can punish a teenage girl for spaghetti straps, you can enforce a mask mandate Excerpt: Call it karma or science (it's science), but over the weekend news broke that nine people, both students and staff, had tested positive for the coronavirus at North Paulding High School. This is the Georgia school made notorious last week by a photo of a hallway swarming with shoulder-to-shoulder unmasked students. It's where the girl who posted that photo online was initially suspended for her whistleblowing, and where the superintendent claimed, “wearing a mask is a personal choice and there is no practical way to enforce a mandate to wear them.” It is also the place where irony died, because the school had proved it did have at least one tool — suspension — for dealing with students it believed were in the wrong. North Paulding has temporarily closed. [***] Punish mask noncompliance the way many schools have for decades wrongly punished teenage girls for spaghetti straps, shorter skirts and scooped necklines (all prohibited in North Paulding's dress code), yanking those girls out of class for “distracting” their fellow classmates with scandalous body parts like knee caps. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/if-you-can-punish-a-teenage-girl-for-spaghetti-straps-you-can-enforce-a-mask-mandate/2020/08/10/686bc20a-dafc-11ea-b205-ff838e15a9a6_story.html

Edgy MD Aug 11 2020 02:15 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Check out this pretend tough guy (and turn down the volume if you're near adults or don;t like farts) https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1292984224518209537 SO GOOD ----------to see you!!

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 11 2020 02:23 PM Re: The Mask Thread

He farts at :36 when his poor kid picks him up

Frayed Knot Aug 11 2020 02:41 PM Re: The Mask Thread

One can understand the youthful arrogance of some of the mask avoiders ... not condone it mind you but at least get the macho-ness of 'Corona can't touch ME'!!! that comes with being 20-ish and healthy and arrogant. But how the fuck do you live on this planet for the last six months and argue that it's a hoax!?!?... particularly as an (alleged) adult. Every newscast aired every day would have to be in on it as would every level of government everywhere (including Tweetapotamus) not to mention the 300+ million other people in this country who aren't anywhere near as stupid as you. These folks either have more than a few screws loose or that line from PRINCESS BRIDE applies here: 'I don't think that word means what you think it means' It's why most things labeled as 'Conspiracy' theories fail to pan out, because the logistics required to keep it both going AND YET still remain secret are just too ridiculous to contemplate. But, like I've said before, lots of people believe in lots of conspiracies. They just fail to understand other people's conspiracies at about the same rate as they fail to get how not everyone buys into their's.

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 17 2020 11:52 AM Re: The Mask Thread

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MFS62 Aug 17 2020 01:00 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Seems like an awful lot of effort just to meet the four girls on the volleyball court on the beach. Later

LWFS Aug 17 2020 02:50 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Frayed Knot wrote: One can understand the youthful arrogance of some of the mask avoiders ... not condone it mind you but at least get the macho-ness of 'Corona can't touch ME'!!! that comes with being 20-ish and healthy and arrogant. But how the fuck do you live on this planet for the last six months and argue that it's a hoax!?!?... particularly as an (alleged) adult. Every newscast aired every day would have to be in on it as would every level of government everywhere (including Tweetapotamus) not to mention the 300+ million other people in this country who aren't anywhere near as stupid as you. These folks either have more than a few screws loose or that line from PRINCESS BRIDE applies here: 'I don't think that word means what you think it means' It's why most things labeled as 'Conspiracy' theories fail to pan out, because the logistics required to keep it both going AND YET still remain secret are just too ridiculous to contemplate. But, like I've said before, lots of people believe in lots of conspiracies. They just fail to understand other people's conspiracies at about the same rate as they fail to get how not everyone buys into their's. Most public school isn't what it used to be... and neither is most private school. In lieu of more profitable restaurant work, I'm temping as both a census door-to-door guy. If the level of ignorance on display above gets you hot and bothered, you'd be shocked to know how many apparently American-born-and-raised adult humans to whom I've had to explain the census... like, the concept. In lieu of strong national-- AND state/local-- leadership, the 10 percent or so of bad actors and 20-30 percent of passively-ignorant folk (I'm guessing) out there are on their worst/laxest behavior. In lieu of clear messaging, they're free to self-serve... with that terrible base knowledge and confirmation bias "guiding" them.

Edgy MD Aug 17 2020 04:22 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Let's split the difference on the 20-30 and call it 25%. Along with the 10% of outright antisocial fucks, that's a group of people that, in another context, could be annoying but generally not impactful toward the highest aims of society. But in a pandemic, 35% of the populace acting non-compliant, the hardcore 1-in-10 who is maliciously and aggressively non-compliant, it feels like these could keep this shit going a long, long time. Add to that the rest of us, trying to comply in good faith, but letting our guard down now and then out of fatigue or forgetfulness, and getting called back to school and work with no reliable regime of testing and contact tracing ... I'm not seeing the horizon here. If there's a door out of this, it's the one the president had called for from the beginning — let it wash over the nation, bury (or burn) our dead, and live out out our miserable lives with our fucked-up organs.

ashie62 Aug 17 2020 04:26 PM Re: The Mask Thread

I visited my mom for the first time at her assisted living facilty. They have a good grip on covid now. But when I saw how restricted life is there now it was difficult to watch Have these jackasses visit one of these facilities and ask if they still think its' a hoax Just incorrigible

Lefty Specialist Aug 18 2020 09:18 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Seen on our DC trip.

nymr83 Aug 18 2020 09:28 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Lefty Specialist wrote: Seen on our DC trip. That is pretty funny.

ashie62 Aug 20 2020 04:24 AM Re: The Mask Thread

We might want to protect John Roberts in the same spirit.

MFS62 Aug 26 2020 06:50 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Y'know what might solve the problem? A nationwide campaign with the slogan "Wearing a mask doesn't shrink your dick". Later

batmagadanleadoff Dec 15 2020 02:15 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Philippines requires face shields in addition to face masks as it braces for holiday surge. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/15/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/#link-6FBC6JKX5RDHVBWC5KDXW7AQTY

batmagadanleadoff Dec 16 2020 06:13 PM Re: The Mask Thread

How Effective Is the Mask You're Wearing? You May Know Soon A C.D.C. division is working with an industry standards group to develop filtration standards — and products that meet them will be able to carry labels saying so. [FIMG=666]https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/12/16/science/16VIRUS-MASKS4/merlin_180526782_f006a3e5-3289-4497-8798-95c236dec5ef-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp[/FIMG] The C.D.C. is aiming to help consumers understand just how effective the masks they buy really are Excerpt: More than 100,000 varieties of face masks are currently for sale. They come in silk, cotton and synthetics; with filters and without; over-the-head and over-the-ears. They have sparkles and sunflowers; friendly greetings and insults; cartoon characters and teeny reindeer. What they don't have is a label that shows how well they block infectious particles, an omission that has frustrated public health officials during the coronavirus pandemic. Those experts note that there is a big range in the effectiveness of various designs, and some barely filter out particles at all. “The most fundamental, basic question is, What is the safest mask and how do I assure that I have that, and my family members and children have that?” said Fran Phillips, who stepped down in August from her post as deputy health secretary of Maryland. “It's so startling that we are here in this moment and we don't have that information.” That may change soon. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/health/covid-masks-effectiveness.html

Edgy MD Dec 17 2020 12:16 PM Re: The Mask Thread

This is great.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 13 2021 08:14 AM Re: The Mask Thread Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 13 2021 09:28 AM

It's been all year so lets's bring this thread back some. So I got into an argument with a woman in an elevator yesterday. There were signs all over the place and right in front of the elevator and also inside the elevator These weren't Little Rascals style signs with the backwards letters in childlike scrawl and all -- they were commercial professionally printed signs with great diagrams and illustrations -- requiring that masks be worn in the elevator and that no more than two people at a time may ride the elevator because of the covid pandemic. Youse know where this is going. I'm in the elevator and she walks in, she's about 40, with another woman who I assume is her mother. They both have masks. Covering their necks only. Like their masks are fucking scarves. So I bring up all the signs to the 40 year old, blah, blah, blah. And she just stares at me, but remains silent and makes no move to put her mask over her mouth. So I tell her it's rude and that the elevator is small and she's no more than three feet away from me and that she could kill me just by breathing near me, and that she has to wear a mask if she can't social distance and the signs, the signs, the signs. So she starts smirking. So I ask her if she thinks it's funny should someone have to go the hospital or worse because she passed on a covid infection? So she says that "Trump told her that she doesn't have to wear a mask". And then the elevator door opens and we all get out. And I'm fucking steaming at the whole thing. Like Trump isn't even the President anymore and besides, the Governor makers state covid policies and what about what Biden is saying and the stupid idea that she can pick and choose whose advice to listen to. What a clusterfuck this shitbag of a used to be president did to this country. We're still paying the price for his practically criminally negligent handling of the pandemic.

kcmets Mar 13 2021 09:01 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Sometimes I want to pull my mask down and cough and fake sneeze on people like that. Spitting on them would rude and a little over the top I guess.

Frayed Knot Mar 13 2021 09:49 AM Re: The Mask Thread

In the world of anti-maskers, the fact that you insist that others around you abide by a set of rules brands you as a coward.

Frayed Knot May 02 2021 05:33 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Got a chuckle out of a mask I saw today that read, SPACEBALLS: The Facemask

batmagadanleadoff Jul 15 2021 08:49 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Masks back on. Los Angeles County reimposes indoor mask mandate for all as coronavirus cases rise nationwide The order, which will take effect late Saturday night in the county of 10 million people, marks the most dramatic reversal of the country's reopening this summer as experts fear a new wave of the virus. Excerpt: Los Angeles County announced Thursday it will revive an indoor mask mandate applying to everyone regardless of vaccination status in response to rising coronavirus cases and hospitalizations linked to the highly transmissible delta variant. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/15/los-angeles-county-mask-mandate-vaccinated/

batmagadanleadoff Aug 21 2021 09:39 PM Re: The Mask Thread

It's getting dangerous out there. FOX anchor Tucker Carlson encourages people to confront mask wearers. And below is a link to a video of a NYC woman attacking two other women with a hammer because they were wearing masks. How does anyone support that political party? How the fuck do they rationalize that? https://futurism.com/neoscope/woman-attacked-hammer-mask

batmagadanleadoff Aug 29 2021 11:59 AM Re: The Mask Thread

A Calif. elementary school teacher took off her mask for a read-aloud. Within days, half her class was positive for delta. Excerpt: The Marin County, Calif., elementary school had been conscientious about following covid-19 protocols. Masks were required indoors, desks were spaced six feet apart, and the students kept socially distant. But the delta variant found an opening anyway. On May 19, one teacher, who was not vaccinated against the coronavirus, began feeling fatigued and had some nasal congestion. She dismissed it as allergies and powered through. While she was usually masked, she made an exception for story time so she could read to the class. By the time she learned she was positive for the coronavirus two days later, half her class of 24 had been infected — nearly all of them in the two rows closest to her desk — and the outbreak had spread to other classes, siblings and parents, including some who were fully vaccinated. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/28/delta-variant-unvaccinated-children-elementary-schools/

Ceetar Aug 29 2021 12:45 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Why is it phrased as "delta variant" found an opening? it didn't. One lady HELD THE DOOR OPEN for it. 1. School didn't mandate vaccines. 2. Lady didn't get vaccinated 3. ignored symptoms. 4. took off her mask. 5. took two more days to find out.

kcmets Aug 30 2021 10:57 AM Re: The Mask Thread

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MFS62 Aug 30 2021 12:53 PM Re: The Mask Thread

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=57851 time=1615648474 user_id=68] So I got into an argument with a woman in an elevator yesterday. There were signs all over the place and right in front of the elevator and also inside the elevator These weren't Little Rascals style signs with the backwards letters in childlike scrawl and all -- they were commercial professionally printed signs with great diagrams and illustrations -- requiring that masks be worn in the elevator and that no more than two people at a time may ride the elevator because of the covid pandemic.

The elevators at Yale-New Haven Hospital go one step beyond that. (I was there earlier in the month)

Each elevator has a very simple sign. It shows a box (to signify the elevator, showing the door), with figures in each of the four corners.

People entering the elevator looked to see whether all four corners were filled. I not, they moved to one of the corners and stayed there until it was time to get out. If full, they waited for another elevator.

I didn't notice anyone disregarding the signs.



Later

nymr83 Aug 30 2021 04:13 PM Re: The Mask Thread

A Calif. elementary school teacher took off her mask for a read-aloud. Within days, half her class was positive for delta. Excerpt: The Marin County, Calif., elementary school had been conscientious about following covid-19 protocols. Masks were required indoors, desks were spaced six feet apart, and the students kept socially distant. But the delta variant found an opening anyway. On May 19, one teacher, who was not vaccinated against the coronavirus, began feeling fatigued and had some nasal congestion. She dismissed it as allergies and powered through. While she was usually masked, she made an exception for story time so she could read to the class. By the time she learned she was positive for the coronavirus two days later, half her class of 24 had been infected — nearly all of them in the two rows closest to her desk — and the outbreak had spread to other classes, siblings and parents, including some who were fully vaccinated. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/28/delta-variant-unvaccinated-children-elementary-schools/ The REAL problem here isn't that a teacher removed her mask temporarily so students could hear her - the problem is that we are allowing unvaccinated filth in the same room as our kids who are not eligible to be vaccinated in the first place.

whippoorwill Sep 15 2021 11:55 AM Re: The Mask Thread

It occurred to me yesterday while at Walmart that some people really look better with a mask on

kcmets Sep 15 2021 12:27 PM Re: The Mask Thread

And if they'd put more clothes on we'd really be getting somewhere!

batmagadanleadoff Sep 15 2021 12:51 PM Re: The Mask Thread

It occurred to me yesterday while at Walmart that some people really look better with a mask on [FIMG=555]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/07/50/c3075056fc7a80f266d78517e62bf1a8.gif[/FIMG]

whippoorwill Sep 15 2021 02:06 PM Re: The Mask Thread

=kcmets post_id=77869 time=1631730457 user_id=53] And if they'd put more clothes on we'd really be getting somewhere!

Lolol!

batmagadanleadoff Sep 20 2021 11:28 AM Re: The Mask Thread

So I had to hail a cab this morning in Manhattan. Which I did. The driver, I assumed, was Russian, based on his accent and the name on the ID displayed inside the taxi. And so I then ask him to put on his mask, which he's not wearing. And he says in a real nasty tone that he doesn't wear masks and besides, I'm wearing my own mask, which should be enough. So I tell him politely that I'd prefer that he still wear a mask, being that he's less than two feet from me in a very cramped space. He says that he doesn't even have a mask and that he knows something. (In a nasty tone, again). What does he know, I ask? He yells at me that he knows that covid's not airborne. So I get out of the cab and tell him to go fuck himself, "you fucking idiot ".

batmagadanleadoff Sep 20 2021 02:59 PM Re: The Mask Thread

So I had to hail a cab this morning in Manhattan. Which I did. The driver, I assumed, was Russian, based on his accent and the name on the ID displayed inside the taxi. And so I then ask him to put on his mask, which he's not wearing. And he says in a real nasty tone that he doesn't wear masks and besides, I'm wearing my own mask, which should be enough. So I tell him politely that I'd prefer that he still wear a mask, being that he's less than two feet from me in a very cramped space. He says that he doesn't even have a mask and that he knows something. (In a nasty tone, again). What does he know, I ask? He yells at me that he knows that covid's not airborne. So I get out of the cab and tell him to go fuck himself, "you fucking idiot ". Or maybe the cabdriver was from Idaho. ______ Idaho Botched Its Pandemic Response. Now It's Begging Neighbors Like Washington State for Help. You try at this point not to be cruel and unfeeling, but if I were a heart patient in Spokane... Congratulations, America. The pandemic now has states yelling at each other, and that always ends well. Let us take, for example, Idaho, a state that is like the nation's attic in which we store all the crazy uncles and aunts. Idaho is one of the most hardcore Live-Free-and-Die states in the union. Back in March, a bunch of parents brought their kids to the steps of the state capitol so they could all burn their masks on local TV. (Used to be all you needed to do was build a decent soapbox derby car.) This owned the libs all the way into Oregon. Of course, now Idaho is foundering in the trough between the second and third waves of the pandemic, and it has decided to depend on the kindness of strangers. From CNN: "It's terrible. I don't know if people understand the gravity of the situation," Cassie Sauer, chief executive of the Washington State Hospital Association, told CNN Thursday evening. "This is not something that should be happening in America at this point.” Sauer says hospitals in Washington are getting more requests to take patients from overwhelmed facilities in Idaho. In some cases, sick Idahoans are simply driving themselves across the border seeking treatment. "The fact that it's not causing severe alarm in Idaho is shocking to me," Sauer said. "In a normal time, our hospitals would accept almost every transfer request. They're accepting some, but they're declining more now." You try at this point not to be cruel and unfeeling, but if I were a heart patient in, say, Spokane, and I couldn't get a bed for my mitral valve surgery because all the ICU slots were taken up by COVID patients from a state run entirely by conservative Republican morons, I'd be pretty frosted, actually. Meanwhile, Idaho has decided to face the crisis by developing…wait for it…death panels! Under the Crisis Standards of Care declaration announced Thursday, the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare said, "The massive surge of Covid-19 patients has exhausted the supply of staff, available beds and necessary resources to adequately address the increased demand for healthcare services. “The declaration is a decision of "last resort," Idaho's health department director, Dave Jeppesen, said earlier this month. It moved Idaho Gov. Brad Little to plead for eligible Idahoans to get vaccinated. "We have reached an unprecedented and unwanted point in the history of our state," the governor, a Republican, said earlier this month. For the love of god, do something. At least listen to the frustrated neighbors. Back in Washington, Sauer is frustrated that the state's neighbor to the east is not taking the kind of extensive steps Washington has to stem the tide. "Idaho's not doing what it should. They don't have a [statewide] mask mandate. They need to do their part," said Sauer. "They cannot rely on Washington as their stopgap.” The country's patience is not inexhaustible. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a37640992/idaho-covid-19-surge-send-patients-washington-state/

Frayed Knot Sep 20 2021 03:22 PM Re: The Mask Thread

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=78250 time=1632158928 user_id=68]He yells at me that he knows that covid's not airborne.

Something he probably learned on the interwebs

batmagadanleadoff Sep 20 2021 05:02 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Frayed Knot wrote: =batmagadanleadoff post_id=78250 time=1632158928 user_id=68]He yells at me that he knows that covid's not airborne. Something he probably learned on the interwebs

I wonder if that cabdriver even believes that nonsense about covid not being airborne or if he simply doesn't want to wear a mask and is looking for anything to latch onto to give him what he thinks would be a plausible reason for refusing to wear one.

Lefty Specialist Sep 20 2021 05:16 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Probably just too lazy and blurts out any justification to suit his purposes. Exiting the cab was the proper response.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 20 2021 05:41 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Lefty Specialist wrote: Probably just too lazy and blurts out any justification to suit his purposes. Exiting the cab was the proper response. I just looked it up: in NYC, taxi drivers must wear masks if there is a passenger in their vehicle. It's the law.

whippoorwill Sep 20 2021 06:22 PM Re: The Mask Thread

Lefty Specialist wrote: Probably just too lazy and blurts out any justification to suit his purposes. Exiting the cab was the proper response. I think he's just stupid Glad you made a stand batmags!

Frayed Knot Sep 20 2021 07:30 PM Re: The Mask Thread

People believe what they want to believe and if you search hard enough on the internet you'll find "proof" for what you believe. - It's why so many middle-eastern Arabs "knew" 9/11 was a staged job designed to blame them since it was on the (then new) internet thingie about how no Jews were killed on that day making it abundantly clear they were all given advance knowledge. - It's why there was a sign at this past weekend's 'Jan 6th' protest about how the Covid vaccines are responsible for "hundreds of thousands" of deaths and illnesses. - It's what keeps JFK assassination theories going after all this time despite absolutely ZERO proof unearthed nearly six decades after the fact. - It's why some mothers "know" that regular childhood vaccines caused their child's autism and why the HIV virus was never the cause of AIDS in the first place, those are merely things that 'they' want you to believe. Yadda, yadda

Lefty Specialist Sep 20 2021 09:00 PM Re: The Mask Thread

And the answer is to engage with stupid people as little as possible. Avoid the shirtless guy with bloodshot eyes and a Bud Light in each hand, and avoid the antivax cranks; let them kill each other off......

Edgy MD Sep 20 2021 09:42 PM Re: The Mask Thread

History suggests that it's not going to work out that way.

kcmets Dec 16 2021 09:00 AM Re: The Mask Thread

Supposedly in New York State, starting this Monday past, citizens were 'mandated' to wear a mask indoors through mid January. Was just down the convenience store. Cashier, no mask. Propane delivery guy, no mask. Two shoppers, no mask. Me, mask.

Johnny Lunchbucket Dec 16 2021 09:53 AM Re: The Mask Thread

I was admonished on Monday for walking by the security desk in the lobby maskless.. 20 seconds in a giant empty hall but appearances count. Ps-- writing this message in the post-shot chair at cvs

batmagadanleadoff Dec 16 2021 10:23 AM Re: The Mask Thread

=kcmets post_id=83163 time=1639670412 user_id=53] Supposedly in New York State, starting this Monday past, citizens were 'mandated' to wear a mask indoors through mid January. Was just down the convenience store. Cashier, no mask. Propane delivery guy, no mask. Two shoppers, no mask. Me, mask.

Nobody's wearing masks and nobody's saying anything about it. The worst are the teen-agers. They're fucking selfish and don't give a flying fuck because they're among the least likely to get a bad covid outcome. It's all about them only. There's no other explanation but that they don't give a fuck. What else could it be? That they don't know that there's a deadly virus circulating? They don't give a fuck because if they infect someone fatally, they'll never know. It's not like shooting someone in the head with a gun where the victim dies more or less instantly right in front of your eyes. Covid victims won't die for a month, month and a half. And transmission takes place microscopically. So they don't know that they're killing people.

Ceetar Dec 16 2021 10:51 AM Re: The Mask Thread

I see plenty of teenagers wearing masks. I see kids still on the sidewalk walking home from school, mask still on. My daughter's been hopping over to the older elementary school for the playground after school, and it's been warm and I've been letting her. Most of the time she still has her mask on mainly just because she's forgotten. Plenty of other kids do too. grocery stores and the like have been right around I'd say 40% masked for the most part. During the last uptick it might've gone up to 60 or so. Was at the dealership yesterday getting my car fixed, almost every customer had a mask, none of the employees. Just some anecdotes. Overall, we're not doing a good enough job with any of this. The guidance for January basketball says masks to come and go, watchers/coaches/parents must wear masks, players can take them off to play. Siblings can come to watch, can't run around and play nearby. No outside basketballs (still sticking to this dumb surface thing)

Willets Point Dec 16 2021 11:10 AM Re: The Mask Thread

In Boston and adjacent cities, indoor masking has been consistent since March 2020. So I was surprised when I went to Providence last week and went to a pizza place and no one else had on a mask not even the staff. Same thing happened when I stopped at a gas station convenience store somewhere in Massachusetts on the way home. It was weird because I'm just used to it being a given. Like Ceetar says, kids and teens are always wearing their masks, even outdoors a lot of the time. They can show the old codgers a thing or two.

seawolf17 Dec 16 2021 11:47 AM Re: The Mask Thread

100% agree with the "kids get it" thing. My team visits schools for a living, and everyone there is on it. I'm not saying they're making all the healthiest choices, of course, because they're still kids, but by and large, kids have adapted quite well every place we've been.

batmagadanleadoff Dec 26 2022 01:25 PM Re: The Mask Thread

First post in this thread in 2022 -- surely a sign of waning mask-wearing. The Last Holdouts What it's like to wear masks for Covid when most others have long since moved on. (The last holdouts -- I can definitely relate to that) Americans Still Masking Against Covid Find Themselves Isolated It can be tough being a committed mask wearer when others have long since moved on from the pandemic. Excerpt: For many Americans still at pains to avoid infection with the coronavirus, this has become the loneliest moment since the pandemic began. Exercise classes have largely suspended remote workouts. Families and employers have expected attendance at holiday events. The vulnerable and the risk-averse are finding themselves the rare mask-wearers on public transportation, in places of worship, and at offices and stores. Even as Covid cases and hospitalizations have climbed across the nation over the last month, public officials are avoiding mask mandates — though officials in some cities, including New York and Los Angeles, have recently recommended wearing masks in public places, citing a “tripledemic” that includes influenza and R.S.V., or respiratory syncytial virus. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/26/us/covid-masks-risk.html

kcmets Dec 26 2022 01:41 PM Re: The Mask Thread

I told someone who was giving me a little mask business at our local Handy-Stop the other day that I was coughing a lot and didn't feel particularly well so I figured why get other people sick just because I wanted to get a 12 pack and closed with a, 'so you're welcome.' He looked at me speechless. I think three solid sentences in a row that drove home the point bing-bang-boom confused him and he walked away with his tail tucked.

batmagadanleadoff Dec 26 2022 03:49 PM Re: The Mask Thread

What kind of business did he give you? I'm kinda surprised that that article I posted came from the NYT because I'm getting the sense that mask-wearing is much higher in the NYC area than in the rest of the country. I guess the NYT is kinda national. Just on the eyeball test, mask-wearing is nowhere near where it was two years ago, but it's not as if hardly anyone wears masks anymore. I took the subway last week and I'd say one out three or four (probably closer to four) were wearing masks.

kcmets Dec 26 2022 05:45 PM Re: The Mask Thread

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=115585 time=1672094954 user_id=68]What kind of business did he give you?

You wouldn't get it. We live on two different planets in two different solar

systems. And why do you care? And why should I explain?



History shows it's to give you an avenue to ridicule my answer, make sport of

me for the 1,000th time and then finish up with why I shouldn't post at all.



Then you get to count your pizza-pie money....

batmagadanleadoff Dec 26 2022 06:08 PM Re: The Mask Thread

=kcmets post_id=115588 time=1672101945 user_id=53] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=115585 time=1672094954 user_id=68]What kind of business did he give you?

You wouldn't get it. We live on two different planets in two different solar

systems. And why do you care? And why should I explain?



History shows it's to give you an avenue to ridicule my answer, make sport of

me for the 1,000th time and then finish up with why I shouldn't post at all.



Then you get to count your pizza-pie money....


Any second now, Edgy"s gonna butt in here to tell me to stop provoking you.



Wait for it....



Any second now.....

kcmets Dec 26 2022 06:11 PM Re: The Mask Thread

The really funny thing is, you're the Donald Trump of the forum.

batmagadanleadoff Dec 26 2022 06:16 PM Re: The Mask Thread

The really funny thing is, you're the Donald Trump of the forum. Did you get a warning for this post, like Ceetar did? You probably got a gold star instead. I'll stop now. There's probably a rule that I'm not allowed to respond. But nothing about you teeing off on me for 10 years running and then wondering about the aftermath. Wonder what would happen if Lunchbucket ever made a c*nt joke. Or 25. Here's the best Edgy'll do. As if he should do anything. He'll butt in and say "Stop it, guys ".

batmagadanleadoff Dec 26 2022 06:23 PM Re: The Mask Thread

=kcmets post_id=115591 time=1672103488 user_id=53] The really funny thing is, you're the Donald Trump of the forum.

Gimme a break. You were up my ass from like my first day here. Probably because I wrote an intelligent post that you couldnt write yourself f you lived to be 500.

kcmets Dec 26 2022 06:30 PM Re: The Mask Thread

As I've said for a decade, why do you care so much about this place if it sucks? There has to be a motive.