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IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

bmfc1 Aug 08 2020 09:31 PM

It's a Sunday matinee as Jacob DeGrom (RHP, https://www.mlb.com/player/jacob-degrom-594798) faces Pedro Lopez (RHP, https://www.mlb.com/player/pablo-lopez-641154) and TBD gets the day off. It's over a year ago so it really doesn't matter but I noticed that on May 10, Lopez gave up 10 ER to the Mets in 3 IP https://www.mlb.com/gameday/marlins-vs-mets/2019/05/10/566005#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=box,game=566005 and then just 8 days later only gave up 0 ER in 7 IP https://www.mlb.com/gameday/mets-vs-marlins/2019/05/18/567383#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=box,game=567383 The First Place Miami Marlins: 1. Jonathan Villar (S) DH (How often does a DH bat leadoff?) 2. Jon Berti (R) SS 3. Corey Dickerson (L) LF 4. Jesus Aguilar (R) 1B 5. Brian Anderson (R) 3B 6. Matt Joyce (L) RF 7. Ryan Lavarnway (R) C 8. Eddy Alvarez (S) 2B 9. Monte Harrison (R) CF Your Fourth Place New York Mets: 1. Brandon Nimmo (L) CF 2. Jeff McNeil (L) LF 3. Pete Alonso (R) 1B 4. Michael Conforto (L) RF 5. J.D. Davis (R) 3B 6. Dominic Smith (L) DH 7. Amed Rosario (R) SS 8. Andres Gimenez (L) 2B 9. Tomas Nido (R) C

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 09:24 AM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

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bmfc1 Aug 09 2020 11:05 AM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Michael Wacha to the DL, Ali Sanchez ("Prince Ali! Fabulous he!") returns from Brooklyn.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 11:12 AM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Villar had no chance, striking out to lead off the game.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 11:14 AM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

He's getting a lot of borderline calls early, which may mean a tough afternoon for the Marlins. Here's to pitch-framing!

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 11:15 AM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

But no no-hitter.

kcmets Aug 09 2020 11:17 AM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Edgy MD wrote: Here's to pitch-framing! I can and will hit you with my sneaker from here.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 11:19 AM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Wide strike zone with the Mets batting also.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 11:28 AM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

He's not getting any charity now, walking the first two batters in the second, on eight pitches.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 11:34 AM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Slider all over the place.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 11:37 AM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

We've got blister-in-the-sun issues.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 11:43 AM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Man he got out of that. Over thirty pitches that inning. I'm thinking Mickey Callaway would pull him on principle after that inning. With the blister issue, Luis Rojas might pull him also.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 12:12 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Alonso chasing a truckload of garbage. But Conforto picked him up (though it took an outfield error). I'll take it.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 12:16 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Umpie is having a strange day behind the plate. Giving them strikes off the corner and missing pitches over the dish.

kcmets Aug 09 2020 12:21 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

That Alonso strike three swing at garbage-change was butt ugly. I feel like I know half of the cardboard faces, weird. I flipped over to TBS a few minutes ago and saw some others. Seeing Jeff Wilpon sitting with SteveJRogers in Philly kinda took me aback.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 12:25 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Is that Bartolo to the left of the Clover sign or just a jowly Mets fan?

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 12:29 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Mets benefitting generously from this Harrison guy not being able to catch up with the heat.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 09 2020 12:30 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Edgy MD wrote: Umpie is having a strange day behind the plate. Giving them strikes off the corner and missing pitches over the dish. The ump incorrectly called that pitch over the plate ball four because the Marlins catcher framed it poorly.

Frayed Knot Aug 09 2020 12:36 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Edgy MD wrote: Umpie is having a strange day behind the plate. Giving them strikes off the corner and missing pitches over the dish. The ump incorrectly called that pitch over the plate ball four because the Marlins catcher framed it poorly. Maybe, but either the TV 'box' and the actual strike zone are totally out of synch, or this crew has had a terrible series. There have been balls being called strikes, strikes winding up as balls and it's neither a big nor small zone just a totally inconsistent one.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 09 2020 12:40 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Umpie is having a strange day behind the plate. Giving them strikes off the corner and missing pitches over the dish. The ump incorrectly called that pitch over the plate ball four because the Marlins catcher framed it poorly. Maybe, but either the TV 'box' and the actual strike zone are totally out of synch, or this crew has had a terrible series. There have been balls being called strikes, strikes winding up as balls and it's neither a big nor small zone just a totally inconsistent one. On the replay for this particular pitch, they didnt show the box/grid. The replay was from above or overhead.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 09 2020 12:52 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Jake went into that last inning with a 1.71 ERA and came out with a 2.45 ERA.

kcmets Aug 09 2020 12:53 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=43221 time=1596997850 user_id=68]The ump incorrectly called that pitch over the plate ball four because the Marlins catcher framed it poorly.

I have another sneaker lol...

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 12:53 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

RBI for Nimmo but McNeil goes down swinging at shite too. Also, we're going to need a Rosario Base-on-Balls Watch. Four innings from the bullpen will be a tough order if the Mets don't expand this lead.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 09 2020 12:54 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=43225 time=1596999150 user_id=68] Jake went into that last inning with a 1.71 ERA and came out with a 2.45 ERA.

All to get him a W which, with the Mets bullpen likely having to protect a one run lead for four innings, I'll bet Jake won't get.

Frayed Knot Aug 09 2020 12:57 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

I'm just saying that, in this game and this series in particular, a missed call could be the result of especially good/bad framing but more likely is the result of questionable B/S umping. There's certainly been enough evidence of the latter over the last 2-1/2 days.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 01:00 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Rosario is a load right now.

bmfc1 Aug 09 2020 01:00 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

How about a frigging flyball with a runner on 3B and less than 2 outs? Dom failed on Friday and just now but he's not the only one. Meanwhile, I thought that this was going to be Rosario's breakout season.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 09 2020 01:03 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Well, one can't always know for sure why the home plate ump makes an incorrect ball/strike call.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 01:03 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Twelve outs to get. There's one.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 01:06 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

It might have been a good call for Alonso to take the long hop, but if he's going to back up, he ought to get in front of it. We're scoring it an E in Baltimore.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 01:10 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

A strikeout of Harrison, the gift that keeps giving. Ten outs to go.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 01:14 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Squeezed through that inning. Fortunately, Harrison and Villar are really swinging noodles. Nine more outs. Who's your next pitcher?

nymr83 Aug 09 2020 01:17 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Gimenez with the heads up drag bunt and 1st to 3rd in the single. I vote Cano to bench when he gets back.

Frayed Knot Aug 09 2020 01:18 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

1st & 3rd nobody out ... time to not let the ball get out of the infield. C'mon boys, prove me wrong.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 01:19 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

I love a bunt hit. Thrills that money can't buy.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 01:22 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Now they're bloated. Two-three-four coming up. Every opportunity to put this game away here.

Frayed Knot Aug 09 2020 01:25 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Frayed Knot wrote: 1st & 3rd nobody out ... time to not let the ball get out of the infield. C'mon boys, prove me wrong. McNeils AB there only sort of counts. 90% of the time that's not enough to get a run in.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 01:28 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

I'll take the run.

Frayed Knot Aug 09 2020 01:29 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

The average number of runs scored after loading the bases with no outs is around 2.5 That we're now semi-satisfied with the fact that we didn't get shut out there says a lot.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 01:32 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Delly walks the leadoff dude.

bmfc1 Aug 09 2020 01:33 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

That book is bad. There are better books about Willie.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 01:35 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

The pitcher's best friend just showed up.

bmfc1 Aug 09 2020 01:43 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

I was sooooooo bored reading that book and it was about WILLIE MAYS!

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 01:45 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

I was thinking Conforto was out, but then I thought the tag was missed. But out he is.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 01:46 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Umpy is simply seeing different pitches than the ones I'm seeing.

Frayed Knot Aug 09 2020 01:49 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy. Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 09 2020 01:56 PM

Remember when replays were only going to be overturned in cases where there was 'clear and convincing' evidence? That's always been the selling point but it's never the case in practice. And as time has gone on it now seems that a 51%/49% guesstimate is enough for them to flip a call. Were it up to me I'd reject anything that even hinted at not being definitive which would have the added benefit of discouraging managers from challenging future ticky-tack calls.

Frayed Knot Aug 09 2020 01:54 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

And check it out ... another K w/2-outs and RiSP!!!

bmfc1 Aug 09 2020 01:59 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Perhaps replays should only be called for by the umps on vacation, I mean in the review booth.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 02:02 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Tying RiSP. Two out in the eighth.

bmfc1 Aug 09 2020 02:03 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

The ump missed strike three and now all hell is breaking loose.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 02:05 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Monte Harrison for PotG!!!

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 02:16 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Villar has had a crappy game, but he's also probably the biggest victim of the ump's erratic strikezone.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2020 02:23 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

"I don't see this Mark Carlson character sticking in the big leagues if he calls a few more games like that." — Angel Hernandez

Benjamin Grimm Aug 09 2020 02:47 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

=nymr83 post_id=43238 time=1597000670 user_id=54] Gimenez with the heads up drag bunt and 1st to 3rd in the single. I vote Cano to bench when he gets back.

Or to DH.

ashie62 Aug 09 2020 03:11 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Andres will make a spot his own

Frayed Knot Aug 09 2020 03:22 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

This was a pretty Fugly game all around. First of all it was a 4-2 8-1/2 game which came in at 3:09. The two teams combined to go 3-fer-20 w/RiSP [NYM = 1/10; FLA = 2/10] w/19 LOBsters combined. There were far too many freaking pitches (166 by the Mets), 9 combined walks, questionable strategies on both sides, ... and then there was the umpiring.

Lefty Specialist Aug 09 2020 05:29 PM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

Yeah, that was a mess. Still no clutch hitting, even in a win.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 10 2020 08:44 AM Re: IGT 8/9/2020: MIA@NYM: Jake, Jacob, Cy.

http://potg.ultimatemets.com/images/schaefer14.jpg> Cast your vote!