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You just purchased the New York Mets!


Fire Brodie immediately, appoint an interim GM from within the organization and start a thorough search 5 votes

Fire Brodie immediately and give the job to someone within the organization 0 votes

Take a year to observe Brodie first hand 17 votes

Keep Brodie! He's great! 1 votes

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 09 2020 04:35 PM

Now... What are you going to do about the GM?

Centerfield
Jul 09 2020 04:56 PM
Re: You just purchased the New York Mets!

Anyone dumb enough to make the Cano trade can't be part of my team.



I don't know who is smart and who is available but I know Brodie ain't it.



Other things I do on my first day:



1. Call MLB/New Era and inform them we will be wearing first responder caps on 9/11/2020 and every year thereafter. Go ahead and fine me or try to block me in Court. I will shame you 24/7 until you concede.



2. Remove the orange dot from the blue cap.



3. Spend the rest of the day taking BP and shagging balls on the field. Promise the players this won't be a regular thing.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jul 09 2020 05:55 PM
Re: You just purchased the New York Mets!

Tear down citifield, build a new park that resembles Shea in the parking lot

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jul 09 2020 05:57 PM
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Srsly, I assume the right answer is c) make the guy sing for his supper

Ceetar
Jul 09 2020 06:10 PM
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I'd be a meddler, absolutely be a meddler.



I'd also end up pissing off 30 of the other 29 owners with all the wacky (and progressive) Things I was doing.

bmfc1
Jul 09 2020 08:57 PM
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BVW has handled the preparation for this season flawlessly. While other teams are having difficulty with their testing and protocols the Mets appear to be able to play without disruption and with a minimum of distraction. He has manipulated the draft to acquire two #1 picks in consecutive years (if it was easy every team would do it). On the field, he acquired Porcello and Wacha which were even more important moves with Noah's injury. He signed Betances for below value and made smaller moves that I think will benefit the team (e.g. Marisnick, Adams, Fargas). The Kelenick/Cano trade can't be undone but Cano has been a professional and a quiet leader. I answered "C" because Cohen didn't make his money by not observing his personnel but I would give BVW a lengthy grace period, especially with the work he has done this year.

Edgy MD
Jul 09 2020 09:23 PM
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Interfering gets a bad rap. If I'm going to own a team, my fingers are going to be in every pie there is.



On the real question, I chose option 3.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 09 2020 09:41 PM
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That was my choice too.

LWFS
Jul 09 2020 11:58 PM
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This offseason was handled pretty damn well. The last one... was not. I mean, you HAVE to make the guy dance, right?

Fman99
Jul 10 2020 04:23 AM
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Fire him for the Cano trade.



But, you know, I have to finish working on the Tom Seaver Rotunda, so I probably put one of my lackeys on that.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 10 2020 07:17 AM
Re: You just purchased the New York Mets!

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Tear down citifield, build a new park that resembles Shea in the parking lot




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kcmets
Jul 10 2020 08:50 AM
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Jumped on the landslide band wagon; sing-for-supper, dance and all that jazz.

G-Fafif
Jul 10 2020 10:13 AM
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Once we have fans in the ballpark, my administration's first move will be to eliminate the “no backpacks” nonsense and generally overhaul guest relations protocol.

metsmarathon
Jul 10 2020 10:59 AM
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i'm ok with letting citifield stand, but would certainly look to improve it somehow. maybe building out some additional fan experience areas over the loading docks. slapping some big neon baseball players on some walls somewhere. tastefully, of course.



brodie can stick around for one more year. i'd want to get my feet under myself before making changes like a new GM. and maybe he's someone i can work with. or at least i pump him dry of any remaining good ideas and then cast him to the wind.



i don't like reactionary, hasty, ill-tempered decisions making changes just for the sake of having claimed to have made a change, and would intend to run the franchise in the same manner.

Ceetar
Jul 10 2020 11:59 AM
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are we talking Citi Field? I've got huge changes planned.



1. Promenade Club. KABOOOM.



now that entire section is going to extend out, taking over the 400 sections in front of it. (there can still be room for a few of the cameras that are there) Instead of the seats there there are going to be 3-4 SRO type aisles, at graduated levels, to watch the game. You'll be able to see. you'll be even closer, because we're going to extend it out above the press box a little more.



Above that will be the best beer stand in professional sports. Each homestand will feature a new NYC area brewery with a custom made rivalry beer for one of the opponents. Also probably a few kegs of beer FROM that rival's city, if it can be worked out. This will be roughly where the prom club is now, but open air, public access. WEll open air to the sides. There will likely be a roof on it, which is a larger 'rooftop' standing area in front of the 515ish stands. You'll be able to see some/most of the field, though not home plate, because this will be a little set back, but Citi needs more SRO spots that are in front of the seats, not hidden behind it. Most of the baseball/The Piazza/rotunda roof area that exists now will be there. Big Apple Brews will go away again, so you can see the whole baseball. Probalby moving to more of the standing tables, like out in the OF, there, with the kiosks still around it.



Also food, which will be similarly rotating, with a few staples. Nothing that has to cool long though. No made to order nonsense, plenty of staff, plenty of turnover. as quick in and out as possible. In my Citi Field, you'll be able to order from every stand before you get there anyway.

kcmets
Jul 10 2020 12:19 PM
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I haven't been in the Ptom Club since year one or two. No bathrooms. What kind of

club has no bathrooms? It is a waste of space, I approve of doing something better.

Ceetar
Jul 10 2020 12:25 PM
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one year.. 2018? They had some of those like, street fair donuts where they pour the batter in and you watch it float in the oil to the end and they fresh coat it in sugar? those were good. I try to get in once a year just to see what's up. Decent 5 minutes to AC it up too, if you need. That's about the extent of it.

A Boy Named Seo
Jul 10 2020 02:20 PM
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I think the guy who managed to sign both Michael Wacha AND Rick Porcello gets an extension.



Nah, I think BVW has been pretty clever with regards to the draft, saving slot money to throw at guys higher ceiling guys who slipped cause they're rehabbing from injury or whatever. I'd make him Draft Operations Director or some shit, then get a real GM. No offense, Brody.

MFS62
Jul 10 2020 02:35 PM
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A Boy Named Seo wrote:

I think the guy who managed to sign both Michael Wacha AND Rick Porcello gets an extension.



Nah, I think BVW has been pretty clever with regards to the draft, saving slot money to throw at guys higher ceiling guys who slipped cause they're rehabbing from injury or whatever. I'd make him Draft Operations Director or some shit, then get a real GM. No offense, Brody.

That would be my plan. He seems to wield a sharp pencil but I'm not sure how he would build a deep organization through the draft. You can find excellent talent in lower rounds where player evaluation and not money is a issue. He seems to center his focus on players with whom he has a past relationship (he or his agency) and you need broader purview when looking to acquire talent through trades.

Later

dgwphotography
Jul 10 2020 02:56 PM
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My first move would be to create a fan relations group comprised of members of the CPF who would meet monthly to help implement changes to make things more fan friendly.

MFS62
Jul 10 2020 03:21 PM
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My first move would be to create a fan relations group comprised of members of the CPF who would meet monthly to help implement changes to make things more fan friendly.


I'll drink to that!

Later

Edgy MD
Jul 10 2020 06:24 PM
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My first move would be to create a fan relations group comprised of members of the CPF who would meet monthly to help implement changes to make things more fan friendly.



All expenses paid, I hope.

Lefty Specialist
Jul 11 2020 07:55 AM
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Yeah, you have to test-drive Brodie for a year even if you're thinking of replacing him. Yeah, the Cano/Diaz trade was a disaster, but he's done some other things right.



The fan unfriendliness really needs to be addressed. We're still waiting on refunds for June tickets for a game they knew in April they weren't going to play, and they're saying it could take another 4-6 weeks. Strangely, the money I paid to buy them was transferred immediately.



The first even remotely fan-friendly thing they did was the FanFest in January. It was great, but it took them decades to figure out it was a good idea.

Ceetar
Jul 11 2020 09:00 AM
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reminder that Cano outhit Alonso in the second half a year ago.

Edgy MD
Jul 12 2020 06:14 AM
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When he was in the lineup, anyhow.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jul 12 2020 06:27 AM
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Had Cano done jack shit in the first half we'd have made the playoffs



(probably).



(Not looking it up).

nymr83
Jul 16 2020 03:33 PM
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BVW has handled the preparation for this season flawlessly. While other teams are having difficulty with their testing and protocols the Mets appear to be able to play without disruption and with a minimum of distraction. He has manipulated the draft to acquire two #1 picks in consecutive years (if it was easy every team would do it). On the field, he acquired Porcello and Wacha which were even more important moves with Noah's injury. He signed Betances for below value and made smaller moves that I think will benefit the team (e.g. Marisnick, Adams, Fargas). The Kelenick/Cano trade can't be undone but Cano has been a professional and a quiet leader. I answered "C" because Cohen didn't make his money by not observing his personnel but I would give BVW a lengthy grace period, especially with the work he has done this year.


yeah all of this - its C. coming in and making whole sale changes Day 1 to a team on the verge of contender isn't smart. This is not the Marlins. I would stop and observe.

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 01 2020 11:30 AM
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Despite what we've said in this thread, it certainly is playing out as if Brodie is doomed.



We can expect to find out for sure in less than two weeks.

bmfc1
Nov 01 2020 12:06 PM
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BVW has handled the preparation for this season flawlessly. While other teams are having difficulty with their testing and protocols the Mets appear to be able to play without disruption and with a minimum of distraction. He has manipulated the draft to acquire two #1 picks in consecutive years (if it was easy every team would do it). On the field, he acquired Porcello and Wacha which were even more important moves with Noah's injury. He signed Betances for below value and made smaller moves that I think will benefit the team (e.g. Marisnick, Adams, Fargas). The Kelenick/Cano trade can't be undone but Cano has been a professional and a quiet leader. I answered "C" because Cohen didn't make his money by not observing his personnel but I would give BVW a lengthy grace period, especially with the work he has done this year.

I will grade my own test:

"he acquired Porcello and Wacha which were even more important moves with Noah's injury." Both were mediocre at best but disappointing. Porcello had a +1.7 WAR, Wacha had a +0.1.

"made smaller moves that I think will benefit the team (e.g. Marisnick, Adams, Fargas)" Adams and Fargas never played for the Mets. Marisnick had a +0.1 WAR and was hurt a lot.

I'll give my report a +0.1 WAR but that's it.

G-Fafif
Nov 01 2020 12:36 PM
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It feels unlikely BVW gets more than the most cursory consideration.



I think we're in a new ballpark before the decade is out.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 01 2020 12:41 PM
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It feels unlikely BVW gets more than the most cursory consideration.



I think we're in a new ballpark before the decade is out.



I can't believe you wrote that because that's been my secret fantasy pretty much since the beginning of Citi Field -- my fantasy being that I'm a multi-billionaire like Cohen and I purchase the Mets and one of the first things I do, because I can afford to, is to build a new Mets stadium even though the consensus thinking is that Citi Field's probably gonna be around for another 40 or 50 years. It's a purely aesthetics-driven move and not, by any stretch, a necessity.



I hate Citi Field. I really do. It's a great stadium only by the low bar of comparing it to Shea Stadium and all of the other outdated stadiums of Shea's era.

G-Fafif
Nov 01 2020 01:09 PM
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My hunch is that after a few days of coming to Citi Field to do majority owner stuff rather than as a fan/minority owner, Cohen will find this or that absurd or at least not to his liking, and he'll ask “why is this that way?” and he'll be told, “Jeff wanted it like that.” It won't take long from there to decide that unlike the Supreme Court, Citi Field isn't a lifetime appointment.



Every overhead shot of the current ballpark alongside its predecessor in Arlington during the World Series was a reminder that having a perfectly adequate modern facility in existence doesn't preclude replacing it if you can. And Cohen surely can. He didn't get to be that guy by throwing billions at a whim, but with the billions already accumulated, he didn't come this far to live in somebody else's vision.



Mind you, pandemics and recessions make for an unlikely infrastructure atmosphere, but if they're not endless, neither might Citi Field be.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 01 2020 01:45 PM
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The other owners are gonna hate Cohen if he does that, for showing state and local governments that baseball teams can build new stadiums without getting handouts. On the other hand, there are hardly any old baseball stadiums left to tear down and the ones that are still here are probably never gonna get torn down so long as they're not ever damaged beyond repair.

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2020 02:11 PM
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As Andrew Zimbalist, an economist who has written extensively on sports/business issues, has said numerous times, if owners could make money by building their own stadiums then you couldn't stop them from doing so. And yet none of them ever do.



I'll take the Mets still playing at CF in 2030 (and beyond) and gladly give the points.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Nov 01 2020 06:01 PM
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I've been to about half the ballparks, maybe a little more. I like Citi Field a lot. They made some necesary corrections after the first couple seasons.

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 01 2020 06:16 PM
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If I owned the Mets and had billions of dollars, I'd build them a new stadium. I'd put it on the shore of the East River somewhere around Long Island City.



And I'd call it Kiner-Murphy Stadium.

LWFS
Nov 01 2020 11:25 PM
Re: You just purchased the New York Mets!

Benjamin Grimm wrote:

If I owned the Mets and had billions of dollars, I'd build them a new stadium. I'd put it on the shore of the East River somewhere around Long Island City.



And I'd call it Kiner-Murphy Stadium.


Nice plan.



Billions of dollars just might get you enough land to build the stadium.

MFS62
Nov 02 2020 08:32 AM
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I had to drop out of the bidding. I could only raise $2 billion.

Later

smg58
Nov 02 2020 09:39 AM
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Anyone dumb enough to make the Cano trade can't be part of my team.

I'd forgive that if I thought he were getting better, but he's not. The $8M we owe to Betances and Brach due to player options, in an offseason where nobody is willing to pay Brad Hand $10M, is going to hurt. And while JD Davis is better than what we dealt for him, other teams have found ways to trade for players like Randy Arozarena and Trent Grisham.
3. Spend the rest of the day taking BP and shagging balls on the field. Promise the players this won't be a regular thing.

Oh I wouldn't make that promise.

Edgy MD
Nov 02 2020 10:31 AM
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And if I did, I wouldn't keep it.

LWFS
Nov 06 2020 01:22 PM
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Whether by mutual agreement or me-tual agreement... we've got a decision:



BVW-- along with Minaya, Baird, and a couple of others-- are out.