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RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

G-Fafif Sep 02 2020 06:30 PM

Went peacefully, the family says.

RealityChuck Sep 02 2020 06:31 PM Goodbye to the Franchise

Tom Seaver is gone. I remember his first Mets start -- no decision (For obvious reasons, I did like the fact that Chuck Estrada got the win). He was the one sure thing about the Mets for years. He appeared on Kiner's Korner so often that he often took over interviewing. So sad to end so young.

Edgy MD Sep 02 2020 06:42 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

" ... from complications from Lyme disease, dementia and COVID-19." Good God. Can we fuck anything else up?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 02 2020 06:58 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

I predict that there will be no greater memorial than the one that will appear on Faith and Fear.

ashie62 Sep 02 2020 06:59 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Saw it when this broke but didn't want to start the thread. 2020 just continues down spiral case.

Fman99 Sep 02 2020 07:03 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

At least we have that giant 41 in the rotunda, to think of him each time we go to a game at Citi Field.

kcmets Sep 02 2020 07:18 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Got 200 grapes in my throat, dozens of tears. RIP, GTS...

smg58 Sep 02 2020 07:29 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

The greatest Met. The guy who turned the team from lovable losers into lovable winners. The athlete you look up to the most if you root for this team.

Frayed Knot Sep 02 2020 07:33 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Edgy MD wrote: " ... from complications from Lyme disease, dementia and COVID-19." He never really seemed right after that Lyme disease diagnosis years back. Some folks get over that one fairly easily but it can cause lingering problems for years afterward and, much like Covid, it tends to hit the older folks harder.

whippoorwill Sep 02 2020 08:05 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

My dad loved his laugh

LWFS Sep 02 2020 08:07 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

My first thought-- as with most people going through dementia AND other illnesses late in life-- was "It's almost certainly best it's over for him/her/them." Devoted to excellence like it was a personal faith.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 02 2020 08:11 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Hey Fred: no need to rush that statue at this point. Pass the cost onto Steve Cohen.

The Hot Corner Sep 02 2020 08:22 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

A sad day for the Mets and baseball.

G-Fafif Sep 02 2020 08:28 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

God, I hate not having him alive. Even though he was sidelined since last spring, he was still ours. We still had Tom Seaver front and center for us. We could hold our head up with any team's fans. It was an intangible, maybe only in my mind, but it was something. A few thoughts besides here.

Johnny Lunchbucket Sep 02 2020 08:31 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Yeah that's the thing about Seaver, he was not only the best but the best at being the best. He embodied a rare kind of greatness, talented but also a craftsman, mindful and prideful and protective of what it meant to be excellent.

Edgy MD Sep 02 2020 08:46 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

The Daily News went with Tom Seaver, the greatest Met of all time, dies at 75. There are very few times a subjective term like "greatest" works as an objective journalistic statement. "Tom Seaver Was the Greatest Met." It's an assertion that transcends opinion and encroaches mercilessly upon the realm of fact.

G-Fafif Sep 02 2020 08:52 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

It's always killed the suspense of every Greatest Met countdown.

Edgy MD Sep 02 2020 08:56 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Seaver pitched into extra innings 23 times, for a total of 27 innings. He had a 1.67 ERA.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 02 2020 10:30 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

God, I hate not having him alive. Even though he was sidelined since last spring, he was still ours. We still had Tom Seaver front and center for us. We could hold our head up with any team's fans. It was an intangible, maybe only in my mind, but it was something. A few thoughts besides here. Agreed. I wouldn't have traded Tom for that third title, either. (But Yoenis hasn't aged so well in the category of lone other authentic all-time Mets great.) • A hypothetical offer my friend made me: I could have another Mets world championship affixed to their past. That is to say any year I wanted could be added to 1969 and 1986. It could be a year they came close, it could be a year they finished last. It would be worked into their backstory and our memory bank. It wouldn't alter the course of team history otherwise and I wouldn't have to do anything wacky like go back and live my life from that year forward, but it would come at a cost. In exchange for that third retroactively granted world championship, the Mets could never have had Tom Seaver. They'd still win what they won in 1969 and 1973, but without The Franchise or anybody truly like him. Seaver never would've existed as a Met. Forty-one would be just another number. Would I take that deal, he asked. I thought for less than 41 seconds and told him, no, I would not. We have one actual Seaver (if no Seaver statue) after more than fifty years. Except for Cespedes, he's our one authentic all-time Met great. That's got to be worth one hypothetical championship. http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2015/09/16/meaning-and-games-in-september/

dinosaur jesus Sep 02 2020 10:40 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

I haven't been coming here because baseball is one of those things that's been too painful to think about this year. But I have to pay my respects to my first baseball hero. I've had various infatuations since, but he's still the one. When I look at footage of him--there's disappointingly little of him in his prime--just the way he moved, the angle of his knee when he raised it near his chest, the the delivery, even the angle of his wrist as he caught the throw back from Grote, is instantly familiar, completely distinctive, forty-five or more years later. I didn't live in New York, I only saw him pitch once in person, I didn't share my fandom with anyone in the Pirate country where I grew up, but I think I felt as much as any of you what he meant, what he was. What can I even say about him? He was Tom Seaver.

G-Fafif Sep 02 2020 11:32 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

God, I hate not having him alive. Even though he was sidelined since last spring, he was still ours. We still had Tom Seaver front and center for us. We could hold our head up with any team's fans. It was an intangible, maybe only in my mind, but it was something. A few thoughts besides here. Agreed. I wouldn't have traded Tom for that third title, either. (But Yoenis hasn't aged so well in the category of lone other authentic all-time Mets great.) • A hypothetical offer my friend made me: I could have another Mets world championship affixed to their past. That is to say any year I wanted could be added to 1969 and 1986. It could be a year they came close, it could be a year they finished last. It would be worked into their backstory and our memory bank. It wouldn't alter the course of team history otherwise and I wouldn't have to do anything wacky like go back and live my life from that year forward, but it would come at a cost. In exchange for that third retroactively granted world championship, the Mets could never have had Tom Seaver. They'd still win what they won in 1969 and 1973, but without The Franchise or anybody truly like him. Seaver never would've existed as a Met. Forty-one would be just another number. Would I take that deal, he asked. I thought for less than 41 seconds and told him, no, I would not. We have one actual Seaver (if no Seaver statue) after more than fifty years. Except for Cespedes, he's our one authentic all-time Met great. That's got to be worth one hypothetical championship. http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2015/09/16/meaning-and-games-in-september/ Cespedes's stature is in for reappraisal.

Lefty Specialist Sep 03 2020 05:04 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Damn, another piece of my youth gone. Seaver made the Mets respectable. And he made it look so easy for so long. Damn Dick Young for driving him out of town. The day he was traded was the first time I truly questioned my fandom. How could you trade TOM SEAVER? He won his 300th game on my birthday, beating the Yankees. A nice present even though he looked like a clown in that dreadful 80's White Sox uni. You knew this was coming eventually when he retreated from public life due to dementia. But too soon, too soon.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 03 2020 06:42 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Three tabloid covers today have an uncanny similarity. http://ultimatemets.com/covers/2020/20200903_NSD_02.jpg> http://ultimatemets.com/covers/2020/20200903_NYDN_01.jpg> http://ultimatemets.com/covers/2020/20200903_NYP_01.jpg> Not suprisingly, Tom has gone six for six today, with both the front and back covers of all three of our tabloids. What's particularly interesting is that today happens to be Newsday's 80th birthday, and they have a turn-back-the-clock-style cover. http://ultimatemets.com/covers/2020/20200903_NSD_01.jpg> http://ultimatemets.com/covers/2020/20200903_NYDN_02.jpg> http://ultimatemets.com/covers/2020/20200903_NYP_02.jpg>

MFS62 Sep 03 2020 08:08 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

When we heard the news, I was sad but not surprised considering his health. My wife went to see if we still have our two Tom Seaver bobble head dolls and they are still in their unopened packages. My wife noticed that the faces don't look like Tom but more like Ron Darling. RIP Later

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 10:27 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Hoping eff 'n jeff don't cheap it up on the inevitable Seaver memorial patch, but they'll probably get that guy who never went to art school to do it, like all the others, to save money, and we'll end up with some stupid patch like the script "Rusty" patch or something totally uninspired like the "Kid" in home plate patch. Watch this space.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 10:33 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 03 2020 07:02 PM

[FIMG=454]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50302663348_0e92765f3a_h.jpg[/FIMG]

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 10:37 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

From The Athletic: The Franchise: Tom Seaver, a baseball artist and a Mets icon, dies at 75 Excerpt: Sparky Anderson, the Hall of Fame manager, once said that his idea of managing was “giving the ball to Tom Seaver and then sitting down and watching him work.” Hank Aaron, one of the greatest hitters of any era, said Seaver was “the toughest pitcher I ever had to face.” It was Aaron who met Seaver at the 1967 All-Star Game in Anaheim, when Seaver was 22 and in the midst of his rookie season. “Kid, I know who you are,” Aaron said, “and before your career is over, I guarantee you everyone in this stadium will, too.” https://theathletic.com/2041307/2020/09/02/the-franchise-tom-seaver-a-baseball-artist-and-a-mets-icon-dies-at-75/

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 10:51 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

From The Athletic: The Franchise: Tom Seaver, a baseball artist and a Mets icon, dies at 75 Excerpt: Sparky Anderson, the Hall of Fame manager, once said that his idea of managing was “giving the ball to Tom Seaver and then sitting down and watching him work.” Hank Aaron, one of the greatest hitters of any era, said Seaver was “the toughest pitcher I ever had to face.” It was Aaron who met Seaver at the 1967 All-Star Game in Anaheim, when Seaver was 22 and in the midst of his rookie season. “Kid, I know who you are,” Aaron said, “and before your career is over, I guarantee you everyone in this stadium will, too.” https://theathletic.com/2041307/2020/09/02/the-franchise-tom-seaver-a-baseball-artist-and-a-mets-icon-dies-at-75/ From Oakland, at the '73 World Series: [FIMG=555]https://www.rawchili.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/118654973_153660066379399_2648805961463079317_n.jpg [/FIMG]

Edgy MD Sep 03 2020 10:57 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Seaver got the save in a 15-inning win for the National League that day, one of only two saves in his career.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 11:00 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

The tributes are pouring in. Here's one from Dan Shaughnessy of The Boston Globe: Excerpt: [FIMG=444]https://bostonglobe-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/SQa37v6et7QTu5D1Cd6TsI6Fx5Y=/1024x0/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/bostonglobe/2IEJMBIVF5EPZM27OBLOODIAXE.jpg[/FIMG] Tom Seaver was the prince of New York City. He was the greatest New York Met of all time and there is no close second. He was the Franchise, Tom Terrific, the Hall of Fame ace of the 1969 Miracle Mets. Books were written about him, movies were made, and when it was learned that he died this week, all three New York metropolitan dailies ripped up their front pages and started anew with tributes to Tom Seaver. New York, New York. That was Tom Seaver. But he also pitched the final games of his career for the Boston Red Sox in 1986. And if he hadn't hurt his knee in Toronto in late September, he would have started Game 4 of the World Series against the Mets instead of Al Nipper. With Seaver in the rotation, I believe the Red Sox would have won that haunting World Series. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/09/03/sports/if-tom-seaver-hadnt-been-hurt-1986-red-sox-might-have-won-that-world-series/

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 11:03 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Edgy MD wrote: Seaver got the save in a 15-inning win for the National League that day, one of only two saves in his career. Quick. Don't peek. Who'd Seaver retire for the last out?

Edgy MD Sep 03 2020 11:07 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Um ... Tommie Agee.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 11:09 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 03 2020 11:16 AM

Edgy MD wrote: Um ... Tommie Agee. Right team. Wrong guy. Ken Berry [FIMG=333]https://www.chicagotribune.com/resizer/IOACgXAh67Bhl-2byUreSAN2y0U=/415x522/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/NACDGVIESZHV5DCQUC4KYDYTPE.jpg[/FIMG]

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 11:13 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020 Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 03 2020 11:39 AM

Edgy MD wrote: Seaver got the save in a 15-inning win for the National League that day, one of only two saves in his career. Speaking of saves and Seaver, one of my earliest strong Met memories that still remain is of Seaver blowing a save against the Reds on the last day of baseball just before the 1971 all-star break. Seaver gave up a home run to Tony Perez in the ninth inning. I remember the announcers making a very big deal about the play and then after the game, Seaver appearing on Kiner's Korner even though Ralph usually hosted members of the winning team.

seawolf17 Sep 03 2020 11:34 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

It's funny, because I only really "remember" Seaver in his twilight years -- appearing as a "super veteran" in the 1983 Topps series, winning 300 with the White Sox, not pitching in the 1986 Series -- and it wasn't until much later that I really came to appreciate what "The Franchise" was really all about. Ironically - I was looking through a box of cards for something else the other night, and came across a 1968 Topps Seaver that I didn't even know I had. In retrospect, that was a little creepy.

ashie62 Sep 03 2020 11:37 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Although young, I do remember the 1967 All Star game, it went beyond my bedtime but so what. Seaver, seven straight complete games down the stretch in 1969.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 11:38 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

It's funny, because I only really "remember" Seaver in his twilight years -- appearing as a "super veteran" in the 1983 Topps series, winning 300 with the White Sox, not pitching in the 1986 Series -- and it wasn't until much later that I really came to appreciate what "The Franchise" was really all about. Ironically - I was looking through a box of cards for something else the other night, and came across a 1968 Topps Seaver that I didn't even know I had. In retrospect, that was a little creepy. It's a seawolf sighting!

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 12:03 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

[FIMG=333]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50301355943_33a2b4db3d_h.jpg[/FIMG]

Johnny Lunchbucket Sep 03 2020 12:27 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Tom's looking a little undead there, Mr. Typewriter

Edgy MD Sep 03 2020 01:25 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

It's funny, because I only really "remember" Seaver in his twilight years -- appearing as a "super veteran" in the 1983 Topps series, winning 300 with the White Sox, not pitching in the 1986 Series -- and it wasn't until much later that I really came to appreciate what "The Franchise" was really all about. Ironically - I was looking through a box of cards for something else the other night, and came across a 1968 Topps Seaver that I didn't even know I had. In retrospect, that was a little creepy. It's a seawolf sighting! I know. With him and dino j revisiting, it's quite the wake.

G-Fafif Sep 03 2020 01:35 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

From The Athletic: The Franchise: Tom Seaver, a baseball artist and a Mets icon, dies at 75 Excerpt: Sparky Anderson, the Hall of Fame manager, once said that his idea of managing was “giving the ball to Tom Seaver and then sitting down and watching him work.” Hank Aaron, one of the greatest hitters of any era, said Seaver was “the toughest pitcher I ever had to face.” It was Aaron who met Seaver at the 1967 All-Star Game in Anaheim, when Seaver was 22 and in the midst of his rookie season. “Kid, I know who you are,” Aaron said, “and before your career is over, I guarantee you everyone in this stadium will, too.” https://theathletic.com/2041307/2020/09/02/the-franchise-tom-seaver-a-baseball-artist-and-a-mets-icon-dies-at-75/ From Oakland, at the '73 World Series: [FIMG=555]https://www.rawchili.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/118654973_153660066379399_2648805961463079317_n.jpg [/FIMG] The Mets “official” blog recalled the 1967 ASG in 2017 and said Seaver's last out was “Ken Barry”. https://metsinsider.mlblogs.com/a-terrific-rookie-season-f617d5fb5d29

Edgy MD Sep 03 2020 02:56 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

All-Time Opening Day Starts 1) Tom Seaver: 16 T2) Steve Carlton: 14 T2) Randy Johnson: 14 T2) Walter Johnson: 14 T2) Jack Morris: 14 T6) Roger Clemens: 13 T6) Robin Roberts: 13 T8) Grover Cleveland Alexander: 12 T8) Bert Blyleven: 12 T8) Justin Verlander: 12 T11) Félix Hernández: 11 T11) CC Sabathia: 11 T11) Fergie Jenkins: 11 T11) Dennis Martinez: 11 Obviously, Verlander must be stopped. He somehow started opening day this year and it's his only appearance on the season. He's welcome to join that crowd at #2, but thus far and no further.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 03:11 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Tom's looking a little undead there, Mr. Typewriter Which one? And is that a zombie reference? 'Cause I'm not so up on zombie lingo. I know the basics, though.

Johnny Lunchbucket Sep 03 2020 03:49 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

The Seaver card. Look at his eyes and forehead

Benjamin Grimm Sep 03 2020 03:51 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

http://ultimatemets.com/covers/yearbooks/1983.jpg> We've known since the 1983 Mets Yearbook cover that Tom Seaver was a vampire.

Edgy MD Sep 03 2020 03:56 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Man, signing Sam Donaldson seemed like such a good idea at the time, tho.

whippoorwill Sep 03 2020 04:00 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

dinosaur jesus wrote: I haven't been coming here because baseball is one of those things that's been too painful to think about this year. But I have to pay my respects to my first baseball hero. I've had various infatuations since, but he's still the one. When I look at footage of him--there's disappointingly little of him in his prime--just the way he moved, the angle of his knee when he raised it near his chest, the the delivery, even the angle of his wrist as he caught the throw back from Grote, is instantly familiar, completely distinctive, forty-five or more years later. I didn't live in New York, I only saw him pitch once in person, I didn't share my fandom with anyone in the Pirate country where I grew up, but I think I felt as much as any of you what he meant, what he was. What can I even say about him? He was Tom Seaver. Yeah! The angle of his glove. His total confidence and self assurance. I was just a dumb kid and a girl to boot but that kind of thing was noticeable to someone looking for the answers to life and maturity Not my favorite Met by a long shot but dang, anyone from any walk of life could admire Tom And Nancy omg

whippoorwill Sep 03 2020 04:01 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Honestly I don't remember if dad and I ever got to see him pitch in person

G-Fafif Sep 03 2020 04:12 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

https://twitter.com/backaftathis/status/1301586713312030720?s=21

G-Fafif Sep 03 2020 04:16 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

https://twitter.com/drewdavis71/status/1301515591606468609?s=21

Edgy MD Sep 03 2020 04:50 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

"Yes, Tom Seaver knew exactly how great he was, but he also knew his greatness was not his to keep to himself because it meant a considerable deal to people like me." — T.J. Quinn

Johnny Lunchbucket Sep 03 2020 04:52 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Too much White Sox on that windup

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 06:43 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 03 2020 09:41 PM

Tom Seaver graces the cover of Abolafia's LUV, a NYC underground sex magazine, 1969. I wonder if the publisher(s) obtained Seaver's consent. [FIMG=555]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50303460222_b13d79065e_h.jpg[/FIMG]

Johnny Lunchbucket Sep 03 2020 08:01 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Wow. That's good stuff

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 09:39 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Wow. That's good stuff Louis Abolafia, of Abolafia's LUV, ran against Nixon for President in 1968 under the Nudist Party on the Hippie 'Love Ticket'. Wanna see that cover without the wooden ruler?

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2020 09:41 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Tom Seaver graces the cover of Abolafia's LUV, a NYC underground sex magazine, 1969. I wonder if the publisher(s) obtained Seaver's consent. [FIMG=555]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50303460222_b13d79065e_h.jpg[/FIMG]

Benjamin Grimm Sep 03 2020 10:26 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

I wish I had known about this one for last year's Magazine Cover Derby

G-Fafif Sep 03 2020 11:39 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Benjamin Grimm wrote: What's particularly interesting is that today happens to be Newsday's 80th birthday, and they have a turn-back-the-clock-style cover. http://ultimatemets.com/covers/2020/20200903_NSD_01.jpg> My search for this edition of Newsday proved fruitless (and wet). I didn't realize that these days on LI the late-ish edition was home-delivery only. The newsstand version's front page went with the breaking story that this coming school year will be a school year like no other.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 04 2020 02:54 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

[FIMG=888]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50303569718_b74d3eb068_k.jpg[/FIMG]

Lefty Specialist Sep 04 2020 05:08 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Good to know the Mets were beefing up their single security guard. That guy must have been enormous. That post-game interview session with Seaver where he's breaking down and trying to rally himself is one of the most painful baseball-related videos you'll ever see.

ashie62 Sep 04 2020 06:42 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

In 1983 on return to Met,s Seaver knew he was not what he was but said he will do his best "not for lack of effort." Professionalism.

Edgy MD Sep 04 2020 07:59 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Lefty Specialist wrote: Good to know the Mets were beefing up their single security guard. That guy must have been enormous. That's a good observation. My concern is: Was that an acceptable way to spell "goodby" in 1977?

MFS62 Sep 04 2020 08:21 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

I remember when writer Dick Young was planting the seeds for the Seaver deal, saying how it would be good for the Mets and he wasn't a good guy. We found out later that he got that burr under his saddle because the Mets denied a job to (or fired? )one of Young's relatives. Later

batmagadanleadoff Sep 04 2020 09:28 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Hoping eff 'n jeff don't cheap it up on the inevitable Seaver memorial patch, but they'll probably get that guy who never went to art school to do it, like all the others, to save money, and we'll end up with some stupid patch like the script "Rusty" patch or something totally uninspired like the "Kid" in home plate patch. Watch this space. When the Mets get around to the Seaver memorial uniform patch, the team should wear it for about a full calendar year, through the one-year anniversary of Seaver's death, instead of for just the few weeks remaining in this season.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 04 2020 09:41 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Hoping eff 'n jeff don't cheap it up on the inevitable Seaver memorial patch, but they'll probably get that guy who never went to art school to do it, like all the others, to save money, and we'll end up with some stupid patch like the script "Rusty" patch or something totally uninspired like the "Kid" in home plate patch. Watch this space. When the Mets get around to the Seaver memorial uniform patch, the team should wear it for about a full calendar year, through the one-year anniversary of Seaver's death, instead of for just the few weeks remaining in this season. And then, on the one-year anniversary of Seaver's death, where, hopefully by then, we'll be back to some sense of normalcy, hold a memorial service at Citi Field in front of, hopefully again, a stadium packed with fans.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 04 2020 10:14 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: The Seaver card. Look at his eyes and forehead Yeah, I see. Couldn't fix it. That's what the source image is. It is what it is. Too bad. I liked that shot otherwise. [FIMG=200]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50301355943_33a2b4db3d_h.jpg[/FIMG] So what I'll do is retire that card. Who knows? Maybe it'll shoot up in value as a short print. Here's the replacement. [FIMG=333]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50305301916_a5ef438895_h.jpg[/FIMG]

G-Fafif Sep 04 2020 02:47 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

A little something specific to loving Tom Seaver when you're eight years old.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 04 2020 06:35 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Nice Tom Seaver patch. Not. Grimm called it. 41 in a black circle.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 04 2020 08:50 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

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batmagadanleadoff Sep 04 2020 09:02 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

[FIMG=333]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50306951216_ec9c9313f8_h.jpg[/FIMG]

batmagadanleadoff Sep 04 2020 09:12 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

[FIMG=333]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50306285698_32ab27e200_h.jpg[/FIMG]

batmagadanleadoff Sep 05 2020 01:01 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

[FIMG=333]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50304254036_7943fd0635_h.jpg[/FIMG]

Edgy MD Sep 05 2020 01:39 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I wish I had known about this one for last year's Magazine Cover Derby I think we will need another contest for the ones that arrived to late to get in the field, as well as latter-day covers.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 05 2020 01:45 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

1973 Bruce Stark full-page caricature, Sunday Daily News Comics Section centerfold pullout [FIMG=444]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50309565532_68c5b0ac71_b.jpg[/FIMG]

G-Fafif Sep 05 2020 02:50 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Every Bruce Stark illustration in the series needs to be revived as a t-shirt of a card or something for the 50th anniversary of 1973.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 05 2020 10:27 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Read all about when Ron Hodges and Tom Seaver went out to eat a pigeon. Franklin County grad and ex-Mets catcher Ron Hodges mourns Tom Seaver https://roanoke.com/sports/professional/franklin-county-grad-and-ex-mets-catcher-ron-hodges-mourns-tom-seaver/article_b15f46bb-5fd6-5609-abdd-6dcb00173204.html

Edgy MD Sep 05 2020 10:37 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

[fimg=600]https://metsrostercentral.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/seaver.jpg[/fimg]

G-Fafif Sep 05 2020 11:47 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Read all about when Ron Hodges and Tom Seaver went out to eat a pigeon. Franklin County grad and ex-Mets catcher Ron Hodges mourns Tom Seaver https://roanoke.com/sports/professional/franklin-county-grad-and-ex-mets-catcher-ron-hodges-mourns-tom-seaver/article_b15f46bb-5fd6-5609-abdd-6dcb00173204.html That's a great get. Thanks for posting. https://twitter.com/jeff_frank7/status/1301578600685146114?s=21

Edgy MD Sep 06 2020 06:56 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Apparently, Stearns never shook Jerry Grote's hand. Tom House talks Seaver, USC, and comparing his doo-doo to Seaver's pow-pow.

G-Fafif Sep 06 2020 03:12 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Doc on Tom: https://thechangeup.substack.com/p/dwight-gooden-remembers-tom-seaver Gary Phillips: I know this is a big loss for the Mets family. What did Tom Seaver mean to you and how did your relationship with him evolve over the years? Dwight Gooden: Tom was like a mentor. Him and Nolan Ryan were my two childhood idols... I watched a lot of their games with my dad and I remember being in the backyard pretending to be either Nolan Ryan or Tom Seaver playing against my nephew, Gary Sheffield. We grew up in the same house. We used to pitch against each other, and we would argue who's going to be Tom Seaver that particular day, who was going to be Nolan Ryan. When I got to meet Tom, we had great conversations. We loved talking about pitching, sequences, how we set hitters up... What are you doing when there's no season or it's not spring training to make yourself better? We talked a lot about family, health, things that matter... He was just a great guy all around. Everyone knew he was a great baseball pitcher, but to me, he was an even better person. He was always in a good mood, always ready to talk baseball, always upbeat. GP: You said in your statement to the Mets that Seaver was one of the first people to call you after you won your Cy Young award in 1985. What do you remember about that phone call? DG: He just congratulated me and said, "Welcome to the club." He said, "Make sure when the league comes after you... just be prepared. Don't try to top the season you had. Just try to duplicate the season you had and you'll be fine." He was just always, always upbeat and a genuine guy. GP: Seaver played his last game for the Mets the year before your rookie season, so you guys never got to be teammates at the big league level. Did your paths ever cross when you were a Mets minor leaguer? DG: I came to New York a little bit in 1983 for an exhibition game where we played the Padres' A-ball club and, before one of the games, we talked. We always talked about what it would have been like to play together. For me, that would have been an absolute dream come true. As a kid, he was my idol. Just the knowledge he had. He always kidded, "With the knowledge I have and the talent you have, we put that together, man who knows where it can get you!" But we always had a lot of good talks. He tried to make a comeback [in 1987]... It didn't go too well and he ended up retiring. I remember in 1986 he was on the Red Sox during the World Series, but it didn't seem right. It just felt like he was supposed to be in our dugout. GP: That first time meeting him in '83, at that point he's already a World Series champion, he's “The Franchise,” he's established as this great Mets player. And you're this up and coming pitcher with high hopes. What was that moment like for young Dwight Gooden? DG: For me it was surreal… I told him, "Man, it's a pleasure to meet you." It was like being a little kid talking to your idol. I couldn't believe it. He said, "I'd like to see you up here real soon" and be teammates. That was always the goal. He said, "keep working hard, don't take no starts for granted and you'll be fine." I was listening to him talk and I was in awe. I couldn't wait to get back to my hotel to call my friends and tell them, "You're not going believe it! I had a conversation with Tom Seaver!" All my friends knew how much I loved him.

Johnny Lunchbucket Sep 06 2020 05:08 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Great reading here. Tom Seaver... AND HIS MOUND! He truly put the SHEA... In Shea Stadium. http://ultimatemets.com/profile.php?PlayerCode=0150&tabno=7 Twice are references to his creating a controversy by firing up a smoke on Kiners Korner. Any detail?

batmagadanleadoff Sep 07 2020 03:38 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Read all about when Ron Hodges and Tom Seaver went out to eat a pigeon. Franklin County grad and ex-Mets catcher Ron Hodges mourns Tom Seaver https://roanoke.com/sports/professional/franklin-county-grad-and-ex-mets-catcher-ron-hodges-mourns-tom-seaver/article_b15f46bb-5fd6-5609-abdd-6dcb00173204.html That's a great get. Thanks for posting. That was some real local reporting.

Edgy MD Sep 07 2020 08:10 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Funny to think that with all those games pitched to Grote, Stearns, Johnny Bench, and Carlton Fisk, his one no-hitter was caught by Don Werner.

G-Fafif Sep 07 2020 11:17 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Just somebody literally brought back to baseball by Tom Seaver, that's all. In May, Ms. Gustines received a birthday card. “Dear Elena, we miss you! Please come back to the baseball family. The game really needs you and so do the Mets! Your friend, Tom Seaver.” https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/07/insider/the-friendship-of-elena-and-tom.html

whippoorwill Sep 07 2020 04:47 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Is that her hiney or a bikini bottom?

batmagadanleadoff Sep 08 2020 05:12 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Tom Seaver by Andy Warhol, 1977. [FIMG=555]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/f9/8f/e9f98ff2822815d036f8f43900ec58d7.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=555]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/cGm1kZP_TPFV05sztZaPEbXYvTl5TOJgUd19oAUZFAQZJMXw3yyOl68hkiA79a6Gqz9jYgOdLc_APzHNmJcyWoAaVttV2N3XhxD7XiVJM6Be9HaQOB-l8Iupcef05MHaDiFaeadwIHs[/FIMG] [FIMG=333]https://pccdn.perfectchannel.com/christies/live/images/item/WarholPastimes24900/5826490/original/NYR_3844_0024.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=333]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/EX5ZGbTQEcXRA6DOTVF5BFupv8imwW-jE9VLrT2lBcBZ0kflDlkcZ0n2QgDLk4-He20QAIE29dTTjLjC4sawCcf89Yy0eE4crN5hpSqQpyYR2C3wru0wiwEK5h4taQBZFDL-u9WG8UY[/FIMG] Sports portraits, 1977, by Andy Warhol [FIMG=777]https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/ihXtnfrWCkmY/v0/-1x-1.jpg[/FIMG]

Edgy MD Sep 08 2020 07:27 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

“For me it was tremendous,” Walt Terrell told the Chronicle. He was one of the guys I looked up to. Obviously, the talent level, I would love to say it was a little different but it was a lot different.” Seaver the jokester would ask to see Terrell's check on pay day and then reach into his pocket. “Let me cash that for you,” Seaver said. https://www.qchron.com/editions/central/teammates-remember-seaver-the-greatest-met-dead-at-75/article_cec1e7fe-ee0d-11ea-818b-03430e247425.html

batmagadanleadoff Sep 10 2020 07:11 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Tom Seaver by Leroy Neiman, 1992, to coincide with Seaver's HOF induction. [FIMG=555]https://www.leroyneiman.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/14-copy.jpg[/FIMG]

G-Fafif Sep 11 2020 01:56 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Tom Seaver: Supporter of local youth baseball and patron of nearby bakery. https://napavalleyregister.com/sports/pro/mlb-valley-coaches-fans-remember-tom-seaver/article_97b68edc-44b9-501a-89ba-3ba50d8d852a.html In 2016, he even agreed to throw out the first pitch at St. Helena Little League's opening day ceremony and give a speech to the players. Justin-Siena senior Max Zuntz was one of those players. Zuntz could never have dreamed his name would share a baseball with the great Seaver one day. But it happened this past January, thanks to the fact his neighbor owned a bakery that the Seaver family frequented many times over the years. Model Bakery owner Karen Mitchell said she had such a friendly relationship with the Seavers that when Zuntz's May birthday was coming up, she broke her own rule – don't bother the celebrities – by asking Seaver to sign a ball that she would give a most appreciative friend for his birthday. He readily obliged, writing “To Max, Best of Luck, Tom Seaver, HOF '92. Seaver wasn't just another celebrity to Mitchell. His daughter, Anne, worked at Model Bakery's Napa store at Oxbow Market when it opened in 2008. Still, Mitchell told the story with so much emotion, one might have thought she'd kept the ball. “People that know about baseball stats said ‘How in the world did you ever do that?' Well, I just smiled a lot,” Mitchell said. “Tom would come to the bakery for lunch with his caregiver two or three times a week and he'd been a regular customer and friend for a while. He didn't normally (sign memorabilia) unless it was for charity; famous athletes are pretty careful about getting their signature out there. But he did it as a favor for me because it was Max's birthday and Max is such a baseball fan.

G-Fafif Sep 18 2020 07:23 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Recommending the latest edition of the Art Shamsky Podcast, with Ron Swoboda, former HOF president Jeff Idelson and WFAN's Bob Heussler reflecting on Tom. Idelson confirmed Nancy had arranged with the Hall that it and not the Mets make the announcement when the time came, which perhaps indicates what Nancy thinks of certain outgoing team owners.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 18 2020 07:29 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

I know Nancy's livid about the lack of a Seaver statue at Citi Field. She's been quoted to that effect.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 18 2020 07:33 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

I'm sorry, but Nancy seems to be a bit of a Karen. I've had that impression for a long time now.

G-Fafif Sep 18 2020 07:42 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Karenism in defense of Seaver is no vice.

G-Fafif Sep 20 2020 09:37 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

https://twitter.com/metslineups/status/1307703360431239175?s=21

Edgy MD Oct 15 2020 08:19 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Seaver Benedictions Gary Carter [FIMG=400]https://ansel.frgimages.com/new-york-mets/tom-seaver-and-gary-carter-new-york-mets-autographed-16-x-20-photograph-with-multiple-inscriptions-jsa_ss2_p-11323728+u-i4w84omken1yu5qa0chv+v-636ff565a1ca42398a71707834be5d3a.jpg?_hv=1&w=600[/FIMG] Ron Darling [FIMG=400]https://i.redd.it/6rxr928c71l51.jpg[/FIMG] John Franco [FIMG=400]https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-450/6272427e/52d26630/angels-mets-baseball-new-york-usa-shutterstock-editorial-6272427e.jpg[/FIMG] Tom Glavine [FIMG=400]https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/13/73/25/19903816/3/940x0.jpg[/FIMG] Dwight Gooden [FIMG=400]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e6/72/7b/e6727b6ff589f7c8d33ba1c761596a81.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=400]https://i0.wp.com/thescorecrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/seaver.jpg?resize=594%2C423&ssl=1[/FIMG] Al Leiter [FIMG=400]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg9TaK3WAAANYhA.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=400]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg9TaN8WoAEpEMu.jpg[/FIMG] Johan Santana (and Darling redux) [FIMG=400]https://not.fangraphs.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2012/06/Seaver-Johan.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=400]https://i1.wp.com/thenyextra.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/061812mets16nm-2.jpg?resize=924%2C716&ssl=1[/FIMG] Darryl Strawberry [FIMG=400]https://i0.wp.com/www.metspolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/20120624-145938.jpg?ssl=1[/FIMG] Craig Swan [FIMG=400]https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/tom-seaver-and-craig-swan-pitchers-for-the-new-york-yankees-are-shown-picture-id517441444[/FIMG] David Wright [FIMG=400]https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/tom-seaver-mets-obit-david-wright-all-star.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=1024[/FIMG]

Benjamin Grimm Oct 15 2020 08:30 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

No Jordanny Valdespin?

Edgy MD Oct 15 2020 09:01 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Feel free to add your own. Now I'm really missing Zvon. Had he been here, he'd have a shot of Seaver and Valdespin hanging out together in about five minutes.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 15 2020 10:28 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 01 2021 08:33 AM

Edgy MD wrote: 50]Seaver Benedictions David Wright [FIMG=400]https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/tom-seaver-mets-obit-david-wright-all-star.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=1024[/FIMG] I used that shot of Seaver and Wright in the Typewriter Chewing Gum total Mets set for 2013 - code name: Wonderama, or Has Anybody here got an Aardsma?. [FIMG=333]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50490056547_b5aac8cb14_o.png[/FIMG] [FIMG=333]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50489956581_a8dd9abca4_o.png[/FIMG] [FIMG=454]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50489908446_4d2b52fda1_o.png[/FIMG] [FIMG=454]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50489908471_12b58d3e8e_o.png[/FIMG]

Edgy MD Oct 15 2020 10:41 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

I love putting the positions in the balloons, especially for Valdy. Also love that you used a vertical orientation for his signature shot. OE: Did you try to make the balloons proportional to relative appearances the player made at the positions? Because if so, that's pretty brilliant.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 15 2020 10:44 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Edgy MD wrote: I love putting the positions in the balloons, especially for Valdy. Also love that you used a vertical orientation for his signature shot. OE: Did you try to make the balloons proportional to relative appearances the player made at the positions? Because if so, that's pretty brilliant. Yes! Nice catch. The balloons are not exactly proportional, but the bigger the position balloon, the more games he played at that position, relative to the other position(s). I had little choice with the Valdy shot but to go sideways or landscape mode.. That photo would've been unworkable in the portrait mode.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 15 2020 10:50 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Edgy MD wrote: I love putting the positions in the balloons, especially for Valdy. Also love that you used a vertical orientation for his signature shot. OE: Did you try to make the balloons proportional to relative appearances the player made at the positions? Because if so, that's pretty brilliant. Yes! Nice catch. The balloons are not exactly proportional, but the bigger the position balloon, the more games he played at that position, relative to the other position(s). I had little choice with the Valdy shot but to go sideways or landscape mode.. That photo would've been unworkable in the portrait mode.

Johnny Lunchbucket Oct 15 2020 11:56 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Wonders never cease at Typewriter Chewing Gum

Edgy MD Nov 12 2020 12:43 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

I made an observation about the design of the Cy Young Award, and frankly, it was hardly the most incisive burst of wit in my social media career. But I made Anne Seaver laugh, and I feel about eight feet tall right now. https://metsrostercentral.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/screen-shot-2020-11-12-at-2.38.17-pm.png> You all have permission to share this triumph with me, by association.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 12 2020 12:45 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Anne was probably creeped out as a child by having three of those things around the house!

Edgy MD Nov 17 2020 06:41 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Flashing back to Seaver at 70.

G-Fafif Nov 17 2020 02:56 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Would've been 76 today.

G-Fafif Dec 13 2020 12:46 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Tom gets a posthumous magazine cover from a title that is usually no longer with us.

Edgy MD Dec 13 2020 02:58 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

It's a little strange to see 1983 Seaver presented as the gold standard. Oddly enough, though, it more than works.

batmagadanleadoff Dec 13 2020 03:51 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Doesn't work for me. When I saw that cover, the first thing I thought was "that picture 's from the wrong year".

batmagadanleadoff Dec 26 2020 09:27 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

The MLB channel's got some Seaver programming this afternoon beginning at 1:30. Studio 42 with Bob Costas, then two games: Seaver's no-hitter and his 300th win. Hours and hours and hours of programming from his peak years as a Met.

kcmets Dec 26 2020 10:07 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Thanks for the DVR heads up. I can't sit through the games but recording the interview fer shure.

G-Fafif Dec 26 2020 11:01 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

At 8 PM MLBN debuts a doc, “Icons Lost,” saluting the six HOFers who died in 2020.

G-Fafif Dec 26 2020 11:42 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Preview... https://twitter.com/mlbnetwork/status/1342900988789796864?s=21

kcmets Jan 31 2021 05:45 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

I finally watched the Costas 2012 interview this morning. Great stuff, and ya barely felt Costas was there in The Franchise's glowing shadow - a plus for me. Didn't delete, definitely will watch again.

G-Fafif Mar 01 2021 08:01 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

https://twitter.com/mets/status/1366400663337508869?s=21

batmagadanleadoff Mar 01 2021 08:25 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Hoping eff 'n jeff don't cheap it up on the inevitable Seaver memorial patch, but they'll probably get that guy who never went to art school to do it, like all the others, to save money, and we'll end up with some stupid patch like the script "Rusty" patch or something totally uninspired like the "Kid" in home plate patch. Watch this space. When the Mets get around to the Seaver memorial uniform patch, the team should wear it for about a full calendar year, through the one-year anniversary of Seaver's death, instead of for just the few weeks remaining in this season. bump. If that's the actual 2021 patch, it's got color, unlike the 2020 memorial patch.

Lefty Specialist Mar 01 2021 08:33 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

https://twitter.com/mets/status/1366400663337508869?s=21 And that's doing it the right way.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 01 2021 08:56 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Lefty Specialist wrote: https://twitter.com/mets/status/1366400663337508869?s=21 And that's doing it the right way. Last year's Seaver memorial patch. [FIMG=444]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhG1SMCXkAAI5fL.jpg[/FIMG]

Johnny Lunchbucket Mar 01 2021 09:48 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Big improvement. (giving em a pass for not being too macabe in having prepped something for an immediate rollout last season even if it was foreseeable + covid probably affected seamstresses). But that's an excellent patch they will wear this year.

whippoorwill Mar 01 2021 10:31 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Love it

G-Fafif Mar 01 2021 11:37 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

https://twitter.com/Mets/status/1366408152728666114?s=19

MFS62 Mar 01 2021 11:42 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

I hope the extra weight of the patch doesn't make him change his throwing motion. (j/k) Later

Centerfield Mar 01 2021 02:11 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

That patch is huge.

Centerfield Mar 03 2021 05:29 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

So I saw this on TV and retract my statement. Patch is perfect.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 26 2021 06:33 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Tom Seaver by Andy Warhol, 1977. [FIMG=555]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/f9/8f/e9f98ff2822815d036f8f43900ec58d7.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=555]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/cGm1kZP_TPFV05sztZaPEbXYvTl5TOJgUd19oAUZFAQZJMXw3yyOl68hkiA79a6Gqz9jYgOdLc_APzHNmJcyWoAaVttV2N3XhxD7XiVJM6Be9HaQOB-l8Iupcef05MHaDiFaeadwIHs[/FIMG] [FIMG=333]https://pccdn.perfectchannel.com/christies/live/images/item/WarholPastimes24900/5826490/original/NYR_3844_0024.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=333]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/EX5ZGbTQEcXRA6DOTVF5BFupv8imwW-jE9VLrT2lBcBZ0kflDlkcZ0n2QgDLk4-He20QAIE29dTTjLjC4sawCcf89Yy0eE4crN5hpSqQpyYR2C3wru0wiwEK5h4taQBZFDL-u9WG8UY[/FIMG] Sports portraits, 1977, by Andy Warhol [FIMG=777]https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/ihXtnfrWCkmY/v0/-1x-1.jpg[/FIMG] Did not know this 'till just now: Seaver also had a Mets cap with him during the sessions for the Warhol shoot. [FIMG=555]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51005538765_d71401c02f_o.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=555]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51074825257_1ca7cf77fe_o.png[/FIMG]

Willets Point Mar 26 2021 07:23 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Just like Ambler had a Mets cap for his portraits.

Edgy MD Mar 26 2021 08:20 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Interesting that he's the only team-sport athlete wearing identifying team colors in the series. OJ and Jabbar are in civvies, and Pelé might be also, for all you can make out, though it kind of looks like the cut of a fútbol jersey.

G-Fafif Apr 09 2021 04:02 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

At last. The Mets have scheduled their Tom Seaver statue dedication for July 22 at Citi Field, according to a person with knowledge of the plans. The ceremony will take place on an off-day before the Mets' first homestand after the break, allowing members of the Mets organization and Seaver's family to be present. The Mets commissioned the statue in 2019, announcing plans for it on the same day they revealed that Citi Field's address would change to 41 Seaver Way. Groundbreaking for the statue has already begun near the Home Run Apple outside the ballpark's main entrance. July 22 is a Thursday. I don't know why days of the week are not included in these types of stories. Or why the statue took decades. https://www.mlb.com/news/tom-seaver-statue-dedication-on-july-22

Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2021 04:11 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

I wonder if we'll get a look at it before the unveiling. I'm very curious to see what it will look like. Since it was commissioned during the Wilpon error, I have this fear that it will be every bit as horrible as the statue of Lucille Ball in her hometown of Jamestown, NY. https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/lucille-ball.jpg?w=800&quality=85> WHAT WERE THEY THINKING????? The statue was so widely ridiculed that they had to replace it, and the second one is much better: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/10/us/10xp-lucille1/10xp-lucille1-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp>

Willets Point Apr 09 2021 05:04 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

In the sports world, the lantern bearer for bad statues is Cristiano Ronaldo. https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/-ci0FWYQ-vpoQ4_JzZ7ME7U-Ey8/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2014/12/22/879/n/1922398/2ea1d169e3b110e9_460748444_10/i/Cristiano-Ronaldo-Statue-Pictures.jpg>

G-Fafif Apr 09 2021 06:50 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

This was the model previewed when they announced it in 2019. https://www.reddit.com/r/NewYorkMets/comments/c68v13/mets_announce_plans_to_build_tom_seaver_statue_at/

batmagadanleadoff Apr 09 2021 06:56 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

I don't know why ... the statue took decades. https://www.mlb.com/news/tom-seaver-statue-dedication-on-july-22 Nobody knows. And everybody knows.

Frayed Knot Apr 09 2021 06:57 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Willets Point wrote: In the sports world, the lantern bearer for bad statues is Cristiano Ronaldo. [fimg=300]https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/-ci0FWYQ-vpoQ4_JzZ7ME7U-Ey8/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2014/12/22/879/n/1922398/2ea1d169e3b110e9_460748444_10/i/Cristiano-Ronaldo-Statue-Pictures.jpg[/fimg] I bet Ronaldo doesn't think it's bad.

Willets Point Apr 09 2021 07:01 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

He's the only one who likes it.

Edgy MD Apr 09 2021 07:21 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

"Hello again, everybody! I'm broadcasting legend Harry Caray! Yeah, Cristiano looks a little off. But is he rising like a colossal Hellmonster over Wrigley Field to crush the buildings of Chicago, swinging a gargantuan microphone at all who would be foolish enough to oppose him? Is he emerging from a murky and infernal cloud of the faces of damned children? Because Soccerboy can bear all the lanterns he wants. I come to destroy them and the preposterous notion of hope they represent!" "HA-HA!! DIE!! Your pathetic screams FEED ME!!!" https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/harry-carey-2aaeba04-8d6b-4b78-813a-f72985989bff.jpg?w=398>

stevejrogers Apr 09 2021 08:00 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

A site out of the UK is cataloguing a bunch of statues for sports usually associated with Europe, and the rest of that area of the world...except for baseball! [Url] http://www.offbeat.group.shef.ac.uk/statues/database_us.htm

G-Fafif May 03 2021 12:08 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Kurt Streeter of the Times asks Johnny Bench about some Hall of Fame friends he's lost of late. “He was probably the best man's man you'd ever want to be around,” said Bench, who caught Seaver's powerful pitches for Cincinnati from 1977 until 1982. “He played on many different teams, and on each one he had the respect and admiration and the love from all the players around him. I mean, he was Tom Seaver after all.” Of course, Bench spoke of Seaver's gusting fastball and pinpoint accuracy. And how a pitcher like that — smart, powerful, iron tough — made life easy for a catcher. But it wasn't Seaver's mastery from the mound that Bench really wanted to discuss. It was the bond they shared. Their long discussions. Their tongue-in-cheek banter. After his baseball career ended in 1986, Seaver retired to California and became a winemaker. Bench remembered trying to get a case from Seaver's winery at a discount. But Seaver at first told him no. “I said: ‘Tom, I'm your catcher! What if I buy two cases?' He said, ‘No, no, no.' So I said, ‘Tom, if I hadn't put down the right signals, you wouldn't even be in the Hall of Fame!' Oh, we had a great time with that. That's the way we laughed. We just shared so much fun.” https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/sports/baseball/johnny-bench-hall-of-fame-deaths.html

G-Fafif Aug 11 2021 07:54 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Corbin Burnes has joined Aaron Nola in tying but not surpassing Tom Seaver's record of 10 consecutive strikeouts (against the Cubs).

G-Fafif Aug 27 2021 07:41 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

[tweet]https://twitter.com/andrewmarden/status/1430941547202187265[/tweet]

kcmets Aug 27 2021 07:43 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Whatever happened to the Citi statue?

G-Fafif Aug 27 2021 07:45 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Whatever happened to the Citi statue? Its completion and unveiling will take place in 2022, pushed back one year by COVID and too many years by organizational neglect. FLUSHING, N.Y., May 11, 2021 — The New York Mets today announced that the Tom Seaver statue unveil at Citi Field will take place Opening Day 2022. “We are excited to unveil this one-of-a-kind tribute to Tom, but it has to be right,” said Mets Team President Sandy Alderson. “Given delays related to the pandemic, the artist asked for additional time to complete his work. After conferring with the Seaver family, we made the decision to unveil the statue on Opening Day 2022.” The Seaver family said, “We are excited to celebrate the unveiling with more fans at Citi Field in 2022 and know that Tom would be proud.” https://newyorkmets.medium.com/tom-seaver-statue-to-be-unveiled-in-2022-147e72130d70

kcmets Aug 27 2021 07:52 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Thanks, I was half afraid to ask and that it's already there and it flew under the radar and I'd feel like an utter moe-ronnn.

MFS62 Aug 27 2021 08:47 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

=kcmets post_id=75687 time=1630072349 user_id=53] Thanks, I was half afraid to ask and that it's already there and it flew under the radar and I'd feel like an utter moe-ronnn.

Now you can happily celebrate your birthday.

Have a happy one, Kase.

Later

kcmets Aug 27 2021 09:50 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

Gracias!

G-Fafif Aug 28 2021 11:33 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

The Little League World Series tournament has been conducted in brackets named for Tom Seaver and Hank Aaron (h/t bmfc1). https://www.littleleague.org/world-series/2021/llbws/bracket/

G-Fafif Sep 02 2021 01:05 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

=G-Fafif post_id=45536 time=1599093021 user_id=55] Went peacefully, the family says.

Though Tom died on August 31, 2020, it was one year ago tonight that the news was announced.



Time has flown. The Franchise remains missed.

G-Fafif Mar 06 2022 08:13 AM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

You may now drop what you're doing and drive the Tom Seaver Highway. Hometown baseball hero Tom Seaver was honored Friday with the naming of a section of Highway 41 between Jensen and Ventura avenues in Fresno as “Tom Seaver Memorial Highway.” The official signage was unveiled during a ceremony at Chukchansi Park, attended by friends, fans and former teammates of Seaver, a member of the National Baseball Hall of Fame who died on Aug. 31, 2020 at age 75. A unanimous Baseball Hall of Fame selection in 1992, Seaver first played the game at Fresno High and Fresno City College. Len Bourdet, 95, Seaver's coach at Fresno City College, was on hand Friday. In his big-league career, Seaver compiled 311 wins and won three NL Cy Young Awards as the league's best pitcher. He's also regarded as the leader of the New York “Miracle” Mets' World Series championship team in 1969, when he won a major league-leading 25 games during the regular season. “I think of Tom Seaver as one of the greatest pitchers, maybe the greatest pitcher,” said Larry Woods, a childhood friend. “Being a Fresno representative, this is quite an honor — not only for the city, but also for the region because Tom was a Valley boy. “He was a Fresno kid, and we need to always remember his heritage and the job he did as a commensurate athlete, and one who showed us how to really play the game, but to live the life.” https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article259056548.html

Willets Point Mar 06 2022 02:44 PM Re: RIP Tom Seaver, 1944-2020

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