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IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

Frayed Knot
Sep 15 2020 02:52 PM

So I hear there's a ballgame tonight. A division game even. Those are important ... or so I'm told.



Phils are coming off losing five times in their ridonculous and just-concluded Seven Game series against Miami

If was enough to see the Marlins pass the Phils and take 2nd place in the NLE

Phils sit 2.5 ahead of us and 1.5 behind the Fish



Rick Porcello vs Jake Arrieta

We didn't hit Arrieta last time. Everyone hit Porcello last time (and the time before that, and the ti ...)

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 15 2020 03:07 PM
Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

It's a pitching match-up of over-the-hill Cy Young award winners!



Tomorrow's the marquee match-up --- deGrom v. Nola! Reserve your tickets now, before they're all gone!



And a Phillie transaction from today: Philadelphia Phillies placed 1B Rhys Hoskins on the 10-day injured list. Left elbow strain.

Edgy MD
Sep 15 2020 03:29 PM
Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

I heard he's planning on changing his name to Rhys Football Team. OHHHHHH!!!!!

ashie62
Sep 15 2020 03:37 PM
Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

Rhys n' Swine.



Gotta win Mets!

Edgy MD
Sep 15 2020 03:40 PM
Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

Bryce? Jean? Didi? That's a lot of females in the Phillies lineup today.



Finally living up to their nickname!




[TABLE][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][/TABLE]
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[TD][list=1]
  • [*]Brandon Nimmo*, cf

  • [*]Michael Conforto* rf

  • [*]J.D. Davis, 3b

  • [*]Dominic Smith*, 1b

  • [*]Robinson Cano*, 2b

  • [*]Pete Alonso, dh

  • [*]Jeff McNeil*, lf

  • [*]Andres Gimenez*, ss

  • [*]Wilson Ramos, c
    • [/list]
    Rick Porcello, sp[/TD]    		[TD][list=1]
  • [*]Andrew McCutchen, dh

  • [*]Bryce Harper*, rf

  • [*]Alec Bohm, 1b

  • [*]Didi Gregorius*, ss

  • [*]Jean Segura, 3b

  • [*]Scott Kingery, 2b

  • [*]Andrew Knapp#, c

  • [*]Kyle Garlick, lf

  • [*]Roman Quin#, cf
    • [/list]

    Jake Arrieta, sp[/TD]


    McCutchen dh-ing means he won't be able to help out by getting caught watching flies to deep left, expecting them to go foul.

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Sep 15 2020 06:07 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Alonso with bases loaded, no score, 2 out here.





    THIS IS THE WHOLE GAME HERE

    Please do something good

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Sep 15 2020 06:10 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    overanxious on an inside strike, foul ball, strike 1

    Ball 1 way outside

    Pop out to shallow center.



    Turning on islanders

    whippoorwill
    Sep 15 2020 06:21 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Edgy MD wrote:

    Bryce? Jean? Didi? That's a lot of females in the Phillies lineup today.



    Finally living up to their nickname!




    [TABLE][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][/TABLE]
    [TH][FIMG=200]https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81V7Xb1zkRL.jpg[/FIMG][/TH][TH][FIMG=200]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/815ajHAYuSL._AC_SL1500_.jpg[/FIMG][/TH]
    [TD][list=1]
  • [*]Brandon Nimmo*, cf

  • [*]Michael Conforto* rf

  • [*]J.D. Davis, 3b

  • [*]Dominic Smith*, 1b

  • [*]Robinson Cano*, 2b

  • [*]Pete Alonso, dh

  • [*]Jeff McNeil*, lf

  • [*]Andres Gimenez*, ss

  • [*]Wilson Ramos, c
    • [/list]
    Rick Porcello, sp[/TD]    		[TD][list=1]
  • [*]Andrew McCutchen, dh

  • [*]Bryce Harper*, rf

  • [*]Alec Bohm, 1b

  • [*]Didi Gregorius*, ss

  • [*]Jean Segura, 3b

  • [*]Scott Kingery, 2b

  • [*]Andrew Knapp#, c

  • [*]Kyle Garlick, lf

  • [*]Roman Quin#, cf
    • [/list]

    Jake Arrieta, sp[/TD]


    McCutchen dh-ing means he won't be able to help out by getting caught watching flies to deep left, expecting them to go foul.


    One female is missing...he ran out of pink bandaids

    kcmets
    Sep 15 2020 06:22 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Turned on the TV and Pete ends an inning with men on base. I don't track

    these things but feels like it's at least once per game. Likely more.

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 06:34 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Porky has the bases loaded out and the Phils are sending up a fourth-inning pinch-hitter in Hasely.

    bmfc1
    Sep 15 2020 06:36 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    See that Mets: that's called a 2-out hit with runners in scoring position.

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 06:36 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    And it's 2-zip.



    The part missing from Porcello's game seems to be a pitch he can get guys to chase. He's got to throw strikes, because breaking stuff outside the zone is just an exercise in getting behind the count.

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 06:37 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Conforto saves the Earth once more.

    Fman99
    Sep 15 2020 06:41 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Kerplingy! there for Nimmo

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 06:54 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    A BB by Didi and the Mets are in a hole.

    Fman99
    Sep 15 2020 06:55 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Rick Porcello can eat a big bag of wet shit for all I care

    Frayed Knot
    Sep 15 2020 06:57 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    So they get multiple two out RBI hits while we get multiple runners on multiple times and don't score at all.

    Sounds about right

    Frayed Knot
    Sep 15 2020 06:59 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    85 pitches for Arrieta through five and maybe 50 of those were with runners on.





    And NOW Cano notches a hit!!!

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 07:00 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    That pitch Alonso just popped up was a hunk of meat that would have been devoured by Alonso 19.

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 07:05 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    That was some Corsican Brothers shit there. Arrieta hits Gimenez in the thigh and then grabs his thigh in the exact same spot.

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 07:07 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Man, Ramos just feels like a double play in a box this season.

    Fman99
    Sep 15 2020 07:07 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Of course Ramos kills that rally with a GIDP. Never saw that coming. In other news, the sun is big and hot.

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 07:09 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    First pitch swinging against a guy just into the game.

    Frayed Knot
    Sep 15 2020 07:10 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Gary: "And the Mets continue to waste opportunities"



    It's come to the point where I don't even consider runners on base to be opportunities anymore. It's more like we're in a hole in those kind of situations.

    bmfc1
    Sep 15 2020 07:10 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    What a big sack of human excrement Ramos has been. And you know that he'll lose 20 pounds this off-season, sign a one-year deal, say that he was distracted with the new baby and Covid, and have a great year for someone else. For now, they might as well waive his fat ass.

    Frayed Knot
    Sep 15 2020 07:19 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    So the Philly pen has given up nearly one run per inning over the course of this season so far ... so let's see how many we can notch off them tonight over 3-2/3 inning.

    I'm guessing the answer will be negative one, that we'll be so bad over these closing innings that the one run we already had will somehow wind up being erased and

    the Phils staff winds up with a combined shutout.

    Frayed Knot
    Sep 15 2020 07:22 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    And, once again, the leadoff hit proves to be a deterrent to scoring.

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 07:27 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Gary's wrong. He says Aparicio is the only MLB offensive player to play only one position his whole career, but Ozzie Smith never played anywhere but shortstop.

    bmfc1
    Sep 15 2020 07:29 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Frayed Knot wrote:

    And, once again, the leadoff hit proves to be a deterrent to scoring.

    The key to beating the Mets is giving up a leadoff double.

    Frayed Knot
    Sep 15 2020 07:35 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    And now the 8th inning is doomed as another leadoff batter reaches.

    The only question now is whether it will require three batters to end the inning or whether we can GiDP again.

    Frayed Knot
    Sep 15 2020 07:38 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Stop reading the scouting report Pete: See Ball, Hit Ball

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 07:44 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Kingery didn't gak on that throw. He rushed it and threw off balance.



    And the Mets run their way out of the inning.

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Sep 15 2020 07:46 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    This club needs to safely distance itself from stupidity

    Frayed Knot
    Sep 15 2020 07:47 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    So I guess the runner hadn't crossed home yet although we saw nothing and nobody commented on it. It had to be close either way.



    Philly relievers have now recorded 2-2/3 innings (8 outs) but have retired only 5 hitters.

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 07:47 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Everybody on this team looks defeated.

    kcmets
    Sep 15 2020 07:52 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    I'm sorry GKR, but fuck Joe Girardi and his brilliance.

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 07:52 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Edwin Diaz does not look defeated.



    Or maybe he does but it just makes him more relaxed and therefore dangerous.

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 07:54 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Another 10-hit game too.

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 08:00 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Conforto has been swinging at balls in on his belt buckle this evening.

    Frayed Knot
    Sep 15 2020 08:03 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    How weird is it to be thinking: Please don't leave it up to Alonso?

    Frayed Knot
    Sep 15 2020 08:09 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Before this season is over I think it just might be possible that we'll see a game where the Mets get shut out while going oh-for-27 w/RiSP

    Benjamin Grimm
    Sep 15 2020 08:16 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    I would have loved to have been able to spend October watching the Mets. 🙁

    G-Fafif
    Sep 15 2020 08:45 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    This was the ninth nine-inning game in franchise history in which the Mets have totaled at least 11 hits yet have scored no more than 1 run. They are 0-9 in these games.

    bmfc1
    Sep 15 2020 09:07 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Benjamin Grimm wrote:

    I would have loved to have been able to spend October watching the Mets. 🙁

    Especially because we didn't have April, May, June and most of July.

    Edgy MD
    Sep 15 2020 09:20 PM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Man, this is such a fixable thing.

    MFS62
    Sep 16 2020 05:25 AM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Edgy MD wrote:

    Man, this is such a fixable thing.


    Tell us how.

    Later

    Benjamin Grimm
    Sep 16 2020 07:14 AM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    http://potg.ultimatemets.com/images/schaefer46.jpg>



    Cast your vote!

    Edgy MD
    Sep 16 2020 07:50 AM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly


    Edgy MD wrote:

    Man, this is such a fixable thing.


    Tell us how.

    Later


    Ways to avoid double plays:
    [list=1]

  • [*]Take early in the count.

  • [*]Steal.

  • [*]Hit and run.

  • [*]Run and hit.

  • [*]Bunt, especially if they're giving it to you.
    • [/list]

    Yes that leads to other sorts of outs, but the upside is greater because I say it is.



    Ways to get a guy in from third:
    [list=1]
  • [*]Take early in the count.

  • [*]Bunt, especially if they're giving it to you.

  • [*]Shorten up with two strikes.

  • [*]Make like a Marlin and just steal the damn plate if the nearest defender is 60 feet away.
    • [/list]

    Enough of this notion that, if a guy's game is swinging from the heels, you've got to let him do that. Learn to take what you're given. The game is too hard and you're just making it harder if you don't. I don't need another half hour of shots of Pete Alonso in existential agony.



    This is the best hitting team in the league and they can't score. That's way too much irony for me. Responsible baserunning, effective bunting, clean fundies, and heads-up play shouldn't be rare virtues, but basic organizational standards.

    MFS62
    Sep 16 2020 08:35 AM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Edgy MD wrote:

    Responsible baserunning, effective bunting, clean fundies, and heads-up play shouldn't be rare virtues, but basic organizational standards.


    Exactly. The Mets have been deficient in those areas for a long time.

    One of the links in the "New Owner" thread listed all the coaches, managers and special titles throughout the organization. Which of them are responsible for developing, then teaching, those standards?

    I remember when Frank Cashen joined the Mets, he brought his organizational playbook from the Orioles. It went into detail about everything, things like where to stand to take a cutoff throw and how to defend first and third with no outs to situational hitting. Those things were taught uniformly at every level of the organization, so when a player got promoted, he wouldn't have to learn a new managerial "style". That is not scouting. It is player development. And it isn't only procedural, it is an organizational philosophy.

    Maybe that should be the first hire/ fix by the new owner.

    This writer talks about a paradigm shift:

    https://www.amazinavenue.com/2020/9/15/21437049/mets-editorial-wilpons-sale-steve-cohen-culture-change

    Later

    Frayed Knot
    Sep 16 2020 10:58 AM
    Re: IGT - 9/15/20; Mets @ Philly

    Over the last three games (since the 18-1 white washing of the Jays) the Mets have out-hit their opponents 32-23 but been outscored 14-6

    So, yeah, that's 6 runs on 32 hits, plus 7 walks and 2 HBPs. I didn't count opponent errors. Not surprisingly this is due in large part to the

    3/25 hitting w/RiSP (.120) ... and only two of those hits actually knocked-in any runs.



    Then, after you toss in the four GiDPs plus various other baserunning miscues, opposing pitchers were required to retire not 81 NYM hitters to

    close out those games but somewhere more in the low-to-mid 70s range. iow: more than 35% of NYM batters reached base over this three-game

    span and that amounted to an average of .222 Runs/Inning, less than half the league average in any given season.